Nancree wrote:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/se...tchen&field-br
owse=284507&search-type=ss&field-keywords=electric%20kettles&/qid=10769803
27/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4_etk-kitchen_all/103-5637639-3809402

www.tinyurl.com

~john

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:35:33 -0500, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Levelwave=A9?=
wrote:

Nancree wrote:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/se...tchen&field-br
owse=284507&search-type=ss&field-keywords=electric%20kettles&/qid=10769803
27/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4_etk-kitchen_all/103-5637639-3809402

www.tinyurl.com

~john

An excellent suggestion. But, I have a quesiton for you. Why has
your name been coming out as "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Levelwave=A9?=
" lately? what's with the nonsense characters?

BTW, Nancree- I just bought the T-Fal electric kettle from Amazon two
weeks ago and it is excellent.

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

Curly Sue wrote:

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:35:33 -0500, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Levelwave=A9?=
wrote:


Nancree wrote:


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/se...tchen&field-br
owse=284507&search-type=ss&field-keywords=electric%20kettles&/qid=10769803
27/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4_etk-kitchen_all/103-5637639-3809402

www.tinyurl.com

~john


An excellent suggestion. But, I have a quesiton for you. Why has
your name been coming out as "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Levelwave=A9?=
" lately? what's with the nonsense characters?

BTW, Nancree- I just bought the T-Fal electric kettle from Amazon two
weeks ago and it is excellent.

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!


Thanks folks. I'm looking for a kettle that uses almost as much power as
an electric clothes dryer and will boil a liter of water in a few seconds.
The one from the "tabletools" amazon affiliate store that someone posted
earlier is supposed to be a 3000W kettle, and I emailed the store for more
details (like what plug it uses) before I purchase one.

Best regards,
Bob

zxcvbob wrote in
:

Curly Sue wrote:

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:35:33 -0500, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Levelwave=A9?=
wrote:


Nancree wrote:


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/se...ex=kitchen&fie
ld-br
owse=284507&search-type=ss&field-keywords=electric%20kettles&/qid=107
69803 27/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4_etk-kitchen_all/103-5637639-3809402

www.tinyurl.com

~john


An excellent suggestion. But, I have a quesiton for you. Why has
your name been coming out as "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Levelwave=A9?=
" lately? what's with the nonsense characters?

BTW, Nancree- I just bought the T-Fal electric kettle from Amazon two
weeks ago and it is excellent.

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!


Thanks folks. I'm looking for a kettle that uses almost as much power
as an electric clothes dryer and will boil a liter of water in a few
seconds.
The one from the "tabletools" amazon affiliate store that someone
posted
earlier is supposed to be a 3000W kettle, and I emailed the store for
more details (like what plug it uses) before I purchase one.

Best regards,
Bob


Hope you find what you're looking for, Bob. I'm curious, though, about
such an urgent need for hot water. I usually find an ordinary kettle
fast enough, or the microwave for a cup or so.

Wayne

Wayne Boatwright wrote:

zxcvbob wrote in
:


Curly Sue wrote:


On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:35:33 -0500, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Levelwave=A9?=
wrote:



Nancree wrote:



http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/se...ex=kitchen&fie
ld-br
owse=284507&search-type=ss&field-keywords=electric%20kettles&/qid=107
69803 27/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4_etk-kitchen_all/103-5637639-3809402

www.tinyurl.com

~john


An excellent suggestion. But, I have a quesiton for you. Why has
your name been coming out as "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Levelwave=A9?=
" lately? what's with the nonsense characters?

BTW, Nancree- I just bought the T-Fal electric kettle from Amazon two
weeks ago and it is excellent.

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!


Thanks folks. I'm looking for a kettle that uses almost as much power
as an electric clothes dryer and will boil a liter of water in a few
seconds.
The one from the "tabletools" amazon affiliate store that someone
posted
earlier is supposed to be a 3000W kettle, and I emailed the store for
more details (like what plug it uses) before I purchase one.

Best regards,
Bob



Hope you find what you're looking for, Bob. I'm curious, though, about
such an urgent need for hot water. I usually find an ordinary kettle
fast enough, or the microwave for a cup or so.

Wayne


Need has very little to do with it :-) My wife drinks a lot of tea in the
winter, and I do too when I'm sick. Being able to boil the water quickly
is a good thing. I like to make coffee in a french press sometimes, and it
takes a long time to boil a liter of water on the stove. Plus just the
novelty of having a 220V outlet in the kitchen for a 60-slice toaster or a
big fryer or boiler (or a small welder.)

I think the novelty factor is the main thing.

Best regards,
Bob

zxcvbob wrote in
:

Wayne Boatwright wrote:

zxcvbob wrote in
:


Curly Sue wrote:


On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:35:33 -0500, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Levelwave=A9?=
wrote:



Nancree wrote:



http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/se...ndex=kitchen&f
ie ld-br
owse=284507&search-type=ss&field-keywords=electric%20kettles&/qid=1
07 69803 27/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4_etk-kitchen_all/103-5637639-3809402

www.tinyurl.com

~john


An excellent suggestion. But, I have a quesiton for you. Why has
your name been coming out as "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Levelwave=A9?=
" lately? what's with the nonsense characters?

BTW, Nancree- I just bought the T-Fal electric kettle from Amazon
two weeks ago and it is excellent.

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!


Thanks folks. I'm looking for a kettle that uses almost as much
power as an electric clothes dryer and will boil a liter of water in
a few seconds.
The one from the "tabletools" amazon affiliate store that someone
posted
earlier is supposed to be a 3000W kettle, and I emailed the store for
more details (like what plug it uses) before I purchase one.

Best regards,
Bob



Hope you find what you're looking for, Bob. I'm curious, though,
about such an urgent need for hot water. I usually find an ordinary
kettle fast enough, or the microwave for a cup or so.

Wayne


Need has very little to do with it :-) My wife drinks a lot of tea in
the winter, and I do too when I'm sick. Being able to boil the water
quickly is a good thing. I like to make coffee in a french press
sometimes, and it takes a long time to boil a liter of water on the
stove. Plus just the novelty of having a 220V outlet in the kitchen
for a 60-slice toaster or a big fryer or boiler (or a small welder.)

I think the novelty factor is the main thing.

Best regards,
Bob


All good points. Just wondered. Powering a big fryer or a high-quality
induction unit would appeal to me.

Wayne

Curly Sue wrote:

An excellent suggestion. But, I have a quesiton for you. Why has
your name been coming out as "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Levelwave=A9?=
" lately? what's with the nonsense characters?


Hmmm... I'm not seeing it on my end... My news provider News.CIS.DFN.DE
just changed to News.INDIVIDUAL.NET so there may be something screwy
going on with that... Does this message look OK?

thanks

~john


--
Say hello to the rug's topography...It holds quite a lot of interest
with your face down on it...

Levelwave(c) wrote:

Curly Sue wrote:

An excellent suggestion. But, I have a quesiton for you. Why has
your name been coming out as "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Levelwave=A9?=
" lately? what's with the nonsense characters?



Hmmm... I'm not seeing it on my end... My news provider News.CIS.DFN.DE
just changed to News.INDIVIDUAL.NET so there may be something screwy
going on with that... Does this message look OK?

thanks

~john



I bet her news reader is doing something screwy because of the copyright
symbol:

Path: uni-berlin.de!pcp03042906pcs.andrsn01.tn.comcast.NET!n ot-for-mail
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Levelwave=A9?=
Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
Subject: Try Amazon.com for ELECTRIC KETTLES
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:35:33 -0500
Lines: 9
Message-ID:
References:
NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp03042906pcs.andrsn01.tn.comcast.net (68.59.186.148)
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1076988922 44293553 I 68.59.186.148 ([199095])
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6)
Gecko/20040113
X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
In-Reply-To:
Xref: uni-berlin.de rec.food.cooking:1184129

My newsreader renders it just fine. (Let's see what happens when I select
Simplified Chinese)

Best regards,
Bob

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 23:33:07 -0500, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Levelwave=A9?=
wrote:

Curly Sue wrote:

An excellent suggestion. But, I have a quesiton for you. Why has
your name been coming out as "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Levelwave=A9?=
" lately? what's with the nonsense characters?


Hmmm... I'm not seeing it on my end... My news provider News.CIS.DFN.DE
just changed to News.INDIVIDUAL.NET so there may be something screwy
going on with that... Does this message look OK?

thanks

~john

Still the same. The only thing that's screwy is your name listing in
the listing of articles and the message headers.

I have an old newsreader (Free Agent) and Bob mentioned something
about a copyright symbol. Perhaps that's what the
"=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Levelwave=A9?=" is about- my newsreader might not do
special symbols like that. Your name has been showing up like that
for a while now; did you add the symbol within the past couple of
months?

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 23:33:07 -0500, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Levelwave=A9?=
wrote:

Curly Sue wrote:

An excellent suggestion. But, I have a quesiton for you. Why has
your name been coming out as "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Levelwave=A9?=
" lately? what's with the nonsense characters?


Hmmm... I'm not seeing it on my end... My news provider News.CIS.DFN.DE
just changed to News.INDIVIDUAL.NET so there may be something screwy
going on with that... Does this message look OK?

thanks

~john

OK, I went to Google, via my browser, and saw that you have a
copyright symbol after "Levelwave" and that you started using it in
January or so, which is when I noticed the garbage characters. So my
reader is just too old to translate (c) character.

That explains it!

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:20:53 -0600, zxcvbob
wrote:



Need has very little to do with it :-) My wife drinks a lot of tea in the
winter, and I do too when I'm sick. Being able to boil the water quickly
is a good thing. I like to make coffee in a french press sometimes, and it
takes a long time to boil a liter of water on the stove. Plus just the
novelty of having a 220V outlet in the kitchen for a 60-slice toaster or a
big fryer or boiler (or a small welder.)

I think the novelty factor is the main thing.

Best regards,
Bob

Why not install one of those gizmos that is connected with the sink
and offers hot water instantly?

Boron

Boron Elgar wrote in
:

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:20:53 -0600, zxcvbob
wrote:



Need has very little to do with it :-) My wife drinks a lot of tea in
the winter, and I do too when I'm sick. Being able to boil the water
quickly is a good thing. I like to make coffee in a french press
sometimes, and it takes a long time to boil a liter of water on the
stove. Plus just the novelty of having a 220V outlet in the kitchen
for a 60-slice toaster or a big fryer or boiler (or a small welder.)

I think the novelty factor is the main thing.

Best regards,
Bob

Why not install one of those gizmos that is connected with the sink
and offers hot water instantly?

Boron


My guess is it's neither hot enough nor fresh enough for a serious tea
drinker. The best tea brews with freshly drawn cold water quickly
brought to a fast boil, then quickly poured over the tea leaves. The
instant hot units are rather like a household hot water tank. The hot
water sits in the tank until needed and is held at an under boiling point
temperature. Not only is low temperature a factor, but the water in no
longer well-oxygenated.

Having said that, I have an Insta-Hot and I love it. However, I don't
brew tea. I use it for softening gelatin, adding to frozen vegetables
for a quicker start in cooking, etc.

Wayne

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:40:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
wrote:

Boron Elgar wrote in
:

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:20:53 -0600, zxcvbob
wrote:



Need has very little to do with it :-) My wife drinks a lot of tea in
the winter, and I do too when I'm sick. Being able to boil the water
quickly is a good thing. I like to make coffee in a french press
sometimes, and it takes a long time to boil a liter of water on the
stove. Plus just the novelty of having a 220V outlet in the kitchen
for a 60-slice toaster or a big fryer or boiler (or a small welder.)

I think the novelty factor is the main thing.

Best regards,
Bob

Why not install one of those gizmos that is connected with the sink
and offers hot water instantly?

Boron


My guess is it's neither hot enough nor fresh enough for a serious tea
drinker. The best tea brews with freshly drawn cold water quickly
brought to a fast boil, then quickly poured over the tea leaves. The
instant hot units are rather like a household hot water tank. The hot
water sits in the tank until needed and is held at an under boiling point
temperature. Not only is low temperature a factor, but the water in no
longer well-oxygenated.

Having said that, I have an Insta-Hot and I love it. However, I don't
brew tea. I use it for softening gelatin, adding to frozen vegetables
for a quicker start in cooking, etc.

Wayne

I confess that I am not much of a tea drinker. Red Rose tea bag in a
microwaved cup of hot water is all I ever need if I have the sniffles.

I do use an electric kettle for coffee, though.

boron

Boron Elgar wrote in
:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:40:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
wrote:

Boron Elgar wrote in
m:

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:20:53 -0600, zxcvbob
wrote:



Need has very little to do with it :-) My wife drinks a lot of tea
in the winter, and I do too when I'm sick. Being able to boil the
water quickly is a good thing. I like to make coffee in a french
press sometimes, and it takes a long time to boil a liter of water
on the stove. Plus just the novelty of having a 220V outlet in the
kitchen for a 60-slice toaster or a big fryer or boiler (or a small
welder.)

I think the novelty factor is the main thing.

Best regards,
Bob

Why not install one of those gizmos that is connected with the sink
and offers hot water instantly?

Boron


My guess is it's neither hot enough nor fresh enough for a serious tea
drinker. The best tea brews with freshly drawn cold water quickly
brought to a fast boil, then quickly poured over the tea leaves. The
instant hot units are rather like a household hot water tank. The hot
water sits in the tank until needed and is held at an under boiling
point temperature. Not only is low temperature a factor, but the
water in no longer well-oxygenated.

Having said that, I have an Insta-Hot and I love it. However, I don't
brew tea. I use it for softening gelatin, adding to frozen vegetables
for a quicker start in cooking, etc.

Wayne

I confess that I am not much of a tea drinker. Red Rose tea bag in a
microwaved cup of hot water is all I ever need if I have the sniffles.

I do use an electric kettle for coffee, though.

boron


Not being a serious tea drinker, on the rare occasion I make a cup of
tea, I use the Insta-Hot and put a teabag in a cup, basically the same
thing as you do. I think the reason there are so many more electric
kettles in use in the UK is the British affinity for good tea. They'll
use a "sachet"/teabag in a pinch, but most use loose tea in a teapot with
freshly boiled water.

Cheers,
Wayne

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
Boron Elgar wrote in
:


On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:40:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
wrote:


Boron Elgar wrote in
:


On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:20:53 -0600, zxcvbob
wrote:



Need has very little to do with it :-) My wife drinks a lot of tea
in the winter, and I do too when I'm sick. Being able to boil the
water quickly is a good thing. I like to make coffee in a french
press sometimes, and it takes a long time to boil a liter of water
on the stove. Plus just the novelty of having a 220V outlet in the
kitchen for a 60-slice toaster or a big fryer or boiler (or a small
welder.)

I think the novelty factor is the main thing.

Best regards,
Bob

Why not install one of those gizmos that is connected with the sink
and offers hot water instantly?

Boron


My guess is it's neither hot enough nor fresh enough for a serious tea
drinker. The best tea brews with freshly drawn cold water quickly
brought to a fast boil, then quickly poured over the tea leaves. The
instant hot units are rather like a household hot water tank. The hot
water sits in the tank until needed and is held at an under boiling
point temperature. Not only is low temperature a factor, but the
water in no longer well-oxygenated.

Having said that, I have an Insta-Hot and I love it. However, I don't
brew tea. I use it for softening gelatin, adding to frozen vegetables
for a quicker start in cooking, etc.

Wayne

I confess that I am not much of a tea drinker. Red Rose tea bag in a
microwaved cup of hot water is all I ever need if I have the sniffles.

I do use an electric kettle for coffee, though.

boron



Not being a serious tea drinker, on the rare occasion I make a cup of
tea, I use the Insta-Hot and put a teabag in a cup, basically the same
thing as you do. I think the reason there are so many more electric
kettles in use in the UK is the British affinity for good tea. They'll
use a "sachet"/teabag in a pinch, but most use loose tea in a teapot with
freshly boiled water.

Cheers,
Wayne


I had one of those instant hot water things in a house 15 years ago and
really liked it. But my kitchen now has a *deep* cast iron sink without
enough holes to add any gadgets, and no electricity under the sink.
Also, I think the hot water tank only held about 2 cups.

If I've got to run more wires, I'd rather run them to the countertop.
Probably a split 110/220V duplex outlet on a dedicated 15A circuit. 14/3
cable is pretty easy to work with. Since it's more than 6 feet from the
sink, I'd probably fudge on the GFCI that the new electric code requires
for the 110V half -- it wouldn't have been required a few years ago. If
someone squawks about it later, I can replace the split voltage outlet
with a 220V-only outlet and no GFCI is required.

Best regards,
Bob