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Old 11-02-2004, 09:29 PM
limey
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We have several very tired knives which need to be replaced after honorable
service. I would really appreciate advice on the best knives available
for chopping and for thin-slicing meat. Thanks!

Dora


limey at toad dot net


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Old 11-02-2004, 10:06 PM
Kswck
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"limey" wrote in message
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We have several very tired knives which need to be replaced after
honorable
service. I would really appreciate advice on the best knives available
for chopping and for thin-slicing meat. Thanks!

Dora


limey at toad dot net



I can see another can of worms opened up yet again here.

The best way to answer your question is to go to a store. Try out the feel
of several good knives, Wurstoff, Henkels, Global etc. What feels good in
your hand? As to quality? Everyone has their preference; forged, stamped,
solid one piece, etc.
Just remember, you get what you pay for. The $5 knives won't hold an edge
very long and you will be forever sharpening and/or replacing them.
One other thing: a 'sharpening steel' does not sharpen a knife. It is
incorrectly referred to as that. It is a honing steel-it's designed to file
off the small burrs that occur when using the knife. A good knife should
NEVER be placed into a diswasher-it will bounce off other utensils during
the cycle that will create those burrs that will need to be 'honed' off.

I would recommend the following: A good chef's knife-10 or 12 inch(with a
wide blade)-I use 10. A boning knife-for fish and especially good for
slicing off the silver skin from a roast. A slicing knife-again 10 or 12
inches for cooked meats. A paring knife-usually 3 or 4 inches. A decent
bread knife-for bread and for soft veggies like tomatoes. Finally a
cleaver-if you will be choping things like ribs, whole chickens and such.

And keep them sharp! Makes a BIG difference.


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Old 11-02-2004, 10:13 PM
PENMART01
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"limey"

We have several very tired knives which need to be replaced after honorable
service. I would really appreciate advice on the best knives available
for chopping


No knife is suitable for chopping, knives are for slicing, for chopping use an
axe.

and for thin-slicing meat.


For thin slicing anything use a sharp knife... high price has very little to do
with sharpness... High price has mostly to do with prettiness (like in
brothels). A plain-jane $20 carbon steel knife is poifect for slicing meat
thin... will do the best job... same like that homely goil sitting down the
end.

Of course if you feel like spending lotsa bucks on a trophy goil, I mean knife,
there's oodles of high end fancy
schmancy, essentially carbon copy cutlery out there to pick, choose, refuse.


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Old 11-02-2004, 10:56 PM
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limey wrote:
We have several very tired knives which need to be replaced after honorable
service. I would really appreciate advice on the best knives available
for chopping and for thin-slicing meat. Thanks!

The best knife is the one that feels good in your hand. If it doesn't
feel good, you won't use it. On the bright side, it will keep an edge
for a very long time....

I like Henckels. They are made from very hard steel, which means they
keep an edge for a long time, though they are harder to sharpen when the
edge is gone. Since I take my knives to a pro for sharpening, that's
not an issue. Henckels are a little heavier and have slightly larger
handles than other brands, which works for me since I have big hands.

Wusthofs are excellent as well, and are a little lighter with slightly
smaller handles. They don't feel right to me, but they are perfect for
some people.

Another type of knife I've grown very fond of is known as a Santoku.
(Both Henckel and Wusthof carry them.) I use it for most jobs I used to
use a chef's knife for. Essentially, it has small dimples near the edge
- almost like on a slicer. These dimples keep the slices from
sticking to the blade, which makes it easier to slice very thinly
without the slices riding up the blade.

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Old 12-02-2004, 01:10 AM
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In rec.food.cooking, Kswck wrote:

One other thing: a 'sharpening steel' does not sharpen a knife. It is
incorrectly referred to as that. It is a honing steel-it's designed to file
off the small burrs that occur when using the knife.


Wrong.


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Old 12-02-2004, 03:25 AM
PENMART01
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The STINKIN' Woff wuffed:

elvispimp masturbated:

" opined:

Kswck wrote:

One other thing: a 'sharpening steel' does not sharpen a knife. It is
incorrectly referred to as that. It is a honing steel-it's designed to

file
off the small burrs that occur when using the knife.


Wrong.

Wrong dickbreath, go lookup what a sharpening steel does.


There's no such thing as a "sharpening steel"... the correct term is "knife
steel", pimple brain... correctly employed it *burnishes*, and perfoms no other
function whatsoever. burnish : to rub (a material) with a tool for compacting
or smoothing or for turning an edge.


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Old 12-02-2004, 12:04 PM
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In rec.food.cooking, PENMART01 wrote:
The STINKIN' Woff wuffed:


elvispimp masturbated:


" opined:

Kswck wrote:

One other thing: a 'sharpening steel' does not sharpen a knife. It is
incorrectly referred to as that. It is a honing steel-it's designed to

file
off the small burrs that occur when using the knife.

Wrong.

Wrong dickbreath, go lookup what a sharpening steel does.


There's no such thing as a "sharpening steel"... the correct term is "knife
steel", pimple brain... correctly employed it *burnishes*, and perfoms no other
function whatsoever. burnish : to rub (a material) with a tool for compacting
or smoothing or for turning an edge.


Bingo.

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Old 12-02-2004, 01:36 PM
Kswck
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"PENMART01" wrote in message
...
The STINKIN' Woff wuffed:


elvispimp masturbated:

" opined:

Kswck wrote:

One other thing: a 'sharpening steel' does not sharpen a knife. It is
incorrectly referred to as that. It is a honing steel-it's designed to

file
off the small burrs that occur when using the knife.

Wrong.

Wrong dickbreath, go lookup what a sharpening steel does.


There's no such thing as a "sharpening steel"... the correct term is

"knife
steel", pimple brain... correctly employed it *burnishes*, and perfoms no

other
function whatsoever. burnish : to rub (a material) with a tool for

compacting
or smoothing or for turning an edge.


---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
Sheldon
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"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."



Semantics.


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Old 12-02-2004, 02:34 PM
PENMART01
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"Kswck" drooled:

"PENMART01" wrote
The STINKIN' Woff wuffed:

elvispimp masturbated:
"EskWIRED opined:

Kswck stutters:

One other thing: a 'sharpening steel' does not sharpen a knife. It is
incorrectly referred to as that. It is a honing steel-it's designed to
file
off the small burrs that occur when using the knife.

Wrong.

Wrong dickbreath, go lookup what a sharpening steel does.


There's no such thing as a "sharpening steel"... the correct term is

"knife
steel", pimple brain... correctly employed it *burnishes*, and perfoms no

other
function whatsoever. burnish : to rub (a material) with a tool for

compacting
or smoothing or for turning an edge.


Semantics.


Not at all... actually far superiour intelligence, intellect, and IQ.


---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
Sheldon
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Old 12-02-2004, 03:46 PM
The Wolf
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On 02/12/2004 6:34 AM, in article
, "PENMART01"
opined:

"Kswck" drooled:

"PENMART01" wrote
The STINKIN' Woff wuffed:
elvispimp masturbated:
"EskWIRED opined:

Kswck stutters:

One other thing: a 'sharpening steel' does not sharpen a knife. It is
incorrectly referred to as that. It is a honing steel-it's designed to
file
off the small burrs that occur when using the knife.

Wrong.

Wrong dickbreath, go lookup what a sharpening steel does.

There's no such thing as a "sharpening steel"... the correct term is

"knife
steel", pimple brain... correctly employed it *burnishes*, and perfoms no

other
function whatsoever. burnish : to rub (a material) with a tool for

compacting
or smoothing or for turning an edge.


Semantics.


Not at all... actually far superiour intelligence, intellect, and IQ.


---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
Sheldon
````````````
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

Put up your collection of kiddie porn for a day and go to a quality cutlery
store.

LOOK AT THE ****ING HENKELS STEEL AND TELL ME IF IT HAS MINUTE FILE TEETH ON
IT.
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Old 12-02-2004, 05:00 PM
PENMART01
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The Woff wuffs:

LOOK AT THE ****ING HENKELS STEEL AND TELL ME IF IT HAS MINUTE FILE TEETH

SON IT/S.

It's HENCKELS, you DUMB MOTHERFUKER.


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