I bought them for my kitchen from Ebay. If you look at them up close you
would realize that they are better suited for a bedroom window than a
kitchen as the top portion is a thick flannel but they certainly do look
better than that poufy, newspaper filled 80's monstrosity that I had in
there. And as it turns out, one would have been enough. I will live with
them for a couple of days and I might take one down if I think it looks too
full. Or perhaps I just need to adjust them more. It's just very hard for
me to get up there at all which is the main reason that I did nothing about
it until now. At any rate, you can't beat less than $7 for a valance!

I was also able to solve a weird drain problem! I have always had problems
with the kitchen sinks since we bought this place. The one to the right has
the garbage disposal in it. That has been replaced. So has the faucet.
And the sink has been replumbed twice. Once, the guy merely cut the pipes
smaller to fit better but he didn't bother to remove the extra pieces. I
wish I had taken a pic of how it used to be down there. The plumber who
finally put the job right couldn't even fathom what they thought they were
doing when they did what they did. Remember that game called Mousetrap? It
reminded me of that. Put all sorts of extra stuff down there that you don't
need.

But what nobody told me (or maybe like me they just didn't know) was that
there was some kind of hardened (likely food) residue clogging two of the
openings at the left hand sink. I could see that there was a problem there
and I had tried to ream them out with a bamboo skewer but that skewer was no
match. I finally (wrongly) assumed that it might be something to do with
the plumbing that that something was just askew down there. I could see
something brown that sort of looked like cork.

But... I kept noticing some icky smell, particularly if I ran hot water
down the left hand sink. Sort of like spoiled food or mildew which is
probably what it was.

One night I resorted to watching one of those TV shopping channels because
there was nothing on that I wanted to watch. Some Southern black guy was on
there touting his drain cleaner. I had seen it before. Came close to
ordering but for some reason did not. Well this time I did. I just put a
little in each sink drain, left it for an hour and then ran hot water down
each drain. I did become worried as it had a bit of a chlorine bleach aroma
to me which normally causes me respiratory problems but it was all good.
And the best part? Whatever was clogging those openings is no longer there.
And the smell is gone.

So now not only does my kitchen look better, but it is more functional.

The only thing I am cooking today is more white rice for the sick person. I
have a frozen pizza in the oven right now. Some brand I never heard of. On
sale for $5.99 at Central Market. I am to the point now, I don't care what
kind of pizza it is! I baked the huge one from Costco and it was done in,
in less than 24 hours. I probably should have bought two of these. I'm
sure this one will be gone in an instant!

I still have the Spanish rice that I made last night. It needs more heat.
I bought new chili powder. Same brand as before (McCormick) but it seems to
have less heat.

Hopefully next week I can do some more cooking. Makes it hard when people
are sick and don't want to eat.

On 2/24/2015 9:54 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I bought them for my kitchen from Ebay.

Them what? Curtains?

I have absolutely NO clue what you're talking about.

Newsflash: This is not your personal soap opera. Next, claim it was a
misdirected email to a "friend". Uh huh.

Skipping over all the drama, OB Food:

I'm thinking of pan searing some sweet bay scallops (yes, they were
frozen, there are no fresh scallops here, it's not the season for fresh
scallops) in a little olive oil with pat of butter. Seasonings... I'm
not sure if I should coat them... nope. Browned lightly. Gently
seasoned with pepper and a little salt. I'll be making some sort of
spinach dish on the side. No pics are planned. Yet.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 2/24/2015 9:54 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I bought them for my kitchen from Ebay.
>
> Them what? Curtains?
>
> I have absolutely NO clue what you're talking about.

Oh well. I did mention them prior.
>
> Newsflash: This is not your personal soap opera. Next, claim it was a
> misdirected email to a "friend". Uh huh.

Why would I send this sort of mail to a friend? Oh yeah. You don't have
Facebook. Newsflash: I do!
>
> Skipping over all the drama, OB Food:
>
> I'm thinking of pan searing some sweet bay scallops (yes, they were
> frozen, there are no fresh scallops here, it's not the season for fresh
> scallops) in a little olive oil with pat of butter. Seasonings... I'm not
> sure if I should coat them... nope. Browned lightly. Gently seasoned
> with pepper and a little salt. I'll be making some sort of spinach dish
> on the side. No pics are planned. Yet.
>
> Jill
>
>
>
>

On 2/25/2015 7:38 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2/24/2015 9:54 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I bought them for my kitchen from Ebay.
>>
>> Them what? Curtains?
>>
>> I have absolutely NO clue what you're talking about.
>
> Oh well. I did mention them prior.
>>
>> Newsflash: This is not your personal soap opera. Next, claim it was a
>> misdirected email to a "friend". Uh huh.
>
> Why would I send this sort of mail to a friend? Oh yeah. You don't
> have Facebook. Newsflash: I do!
>
So, you meant to post this to FB?

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 2/25/2015 7:38 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 2/24/2015 9:54 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> I bought them for my kitchen from Ebay.
>>>
>>> Them what? Curtains?
>>>
>>> I have absolutely NO clue what you're talking about.
>>
>> Oh well. I did mention them prior.
>>>
>>> Newsflash: This is not your personal soap opera. Next, claim it was a
>>> misdirected email to a "friend". Uh huh.
>>
>> Why would I send this sort of mail to a friend? Oh yeah. You don't
>> have Facebook. Newsflash: I do!
>>
> So, you meant to post this to FB?

What? No. I posted it *here*!

But WHY did you post this incomplete, disjointed post here?

On 2/26/2015 6:14 PM, wrote:
> But WHY did you post this incomplete, disjointed post here?
>
It didn't make any sense at all. Sounds like they gave her some heavy
duty drugs when she had her last severe pain/health issue which
suddenly, mysteriously resolved itself. Now her kitchen has experienced
a miracle cure, too!

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 2/26/2015 6:14 PM, wrote:
>> But WHY did you post this incomplete, disjointed post here?
>>
> It didn't make any sense at all. Sounds like they gave her some heavy
> duty drugs when she had her last severe pain/health issue which suddenly,
> mysteriously resolved itself. Now her kitchen has experienced a miracle
> cure, too!

No. I have posted of the plumbing problems before and I posted about the
valances on the day that I ordered them. Whatever.

On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 1:02:15 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 2/26/2015 6:14 PM, wrote:
> >> But WHY did you post this incomplete, disjointed post here?
> >>
> > It didn't make any sense at all. Sounds like they gave her some heavy
> > duty drugs when she had her last severe pain/health issue which suddenly,
> > mysteriously resolved itself. Now her kitchen has experienced a miracle
> > cure, too!
>
> No. I have posted of the plumbing problems before and I posted about the
> valances on the day that I ordered them. Whatever.

So, are we supposed to remember what you post (which you say is stalking),
or not remember what you post?

Either way, why should we bother?

Cindy Hamilton

On 2/27/2015 9:19 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 1:02:15 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 2/26/2015 6:14 PM, wrote:
>>>> But WHY did you post this incomplete, disjointed post here?
>>>>
>>> It didn't make any sense at all. Sounds like they gave her some heavy
>>> duty drugs when she had her last severe pain/health issue which suddenly,
>>> mysteriously resolved itself. Now her kitchen has experienced a miracle
>>> cure, too!
>>
>> No. I have posted of the plumbing problems before and I posted about the
>> valances on the day that I ordered them. Whatever.
>
> So, are we supposed to remember what you post (which you say is stalking),
> or not remember what you post?
>
> Either way, why should we bother?
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
It was a long, rambling discourse, something about watching some home
shopping channel on TV involving drain cleaner. Oh, and she was making
rice for the "sick person" (someone is *always* sick in that house) and
she put a frozen pizza in the oven. Wowsa! What a cook! Sounds
like next week she'll have the opportunity to open a few more cans.
Maybe buy another frozen pizza.

Jill

"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
> On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 1:02:15 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On 2/26/2015 6:14 PM, wrote:
>> >> But WHY did you post this incomplete, disjointed post here?
>> >>
>> > It didn't make any sense at all. Sounds like they gave her some heavy
>> > duty drugs when she had her last severe pain/health issue which
>> > suddenly,
>> > mysteriously resolved itself. Now her kitchen has experienced a
>> > miracle
>> > cure, too!
>>
>> No. I have posted of the plumbing problems before and I posted about the
>> valances on the day that I ordered them. Whatever.
>
> So, are we supposed to remember what you post (which you say is stalking),
> or not remember what you post?
>
> Either way, why should we bother?

I didn't say that anyone should. I also don't see why this post is out of
line. This is a cooking group and this is a post about my kitchen.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 2/27/2015 9:19 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 1:02:15 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 2/26/2015 6:14 PM, wrote:
>>>>> But WHY did you post this incomplete, disjointed post here?
>>>>>
>>>> It didn't make any sense at all. Sounds like they gave her some heavy
>>>> duty drugs when she had her last severe pain/health issue which
>>>> suddenly,
>>>> mysteriously resolved itself. Now her kitchen has experienced a
>>>> miracle
>>>> cure, too!
>>>
>>> No. I have posted of the plumbing problems before and I posted about
>>> the
>>> valances on the day that I ordered them. Whatever.
>>
>> So, are we supposed to remember what you post (which you say is
>> stalking),
>> or not remember what you post?
>>
>> Either way, why should we bother?
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
> It was a long, rambling discourse, something about watching some home
> shopping channel on TV involving drain cleaner. Oh, and she was making
> rice for the "sick person" (someone is *always* sick in that house) and
> she put a frozen pizza in the oven. Wowsa! What a cook! Sounds like
> next week she'll have the opportunity to open a few more cans. Maybe buy
> another frozen pizza.

I did say that I wasn't cooking because of the illness. I know this is a
concept that you don't get because you only have to cook for you. I'm not
the only person in this house.

On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 12:18:53 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>> On 2/27/2015 9:19 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 1:02:15 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 2/26/2015 6:14 PM, wrote:
>>>>>> But WHY did you post this incomplete, disjointed post here?
>>>>>>
>>>>> It didn't make any sense at all. Sounds like they gave her some heavy
>>>>> duty drugs when she had her last severe pain/health issue which
>>>>> suddenly,
>>>>> mysteriously resolved itself. Now her kitchen has experienced a
>>>>> miracle
>>>>> cure, too!
>>>>
>>>> No. I have posted of the plumbing problems before and I posted about
>>>> the
>>>> valances on the day that I ordered them. Whatever.
>>>
>>> So, are we supposed to remember what you post (which you say is
>>> stalking),
>>> or not remember what you post?
>>>
>>> Either way, why should we bother?
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> It was a long, rambling discourse, something about watching some home
>> shopping channel on TV involving drain cleaner. Oh, and she was making
>> rice for the "sick person" (someone is *always* sick in that house) and
>> she put a frozen pizza in the oven. Wowsa! What a cook! Sounds like
>> next week she'll have the opportunity to open a few more cans. Maybe buy
>> another frozen pizza.
>
>I did say that I wasn't cooking because of the illness. I know this is a
>concept that you don't get because you only have to cook for you. I'm not
>the only person in this house.

If I was sick, I think the last thing I'd want is plain rice. Maybe
something simple like soup or scrambled eggs, or even a grilled
cheese, but not rice.

Doris

"Julie Bove" wrote:
>
>I don't see why this post is out of line.
>This is a cooking group and this is a post
>about my kitchen.

Big whoop!

The Bove kitchen is not used for cooking.
The Bove kitchen is used for kvetching.

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 12:18:53 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 2/27/2015 9:19 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 1:02:15 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On 2/26/2015 6:14 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>> But WHY did you post this incomplete, disjointed post here?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It didn't make any sense at all. Sounds like they gave her some
>>>>>> heavy
>>>>>> duty drugs when she had her last severe pain/health issue which
>>>>>> suddenly,
>>>>>> mysteriously resolved itself. Now her kitchen has experienced a
>>>>>> miracle
>>>>>> cure, too!
>>>>>
>>>>> No. I have posted of the plumbing problems before and I posted about
>>>>> the
>>>>> valances on the day that I ordered them. Whatever.
>>>>
>>>> So, are we supposed to remember what you post (which you say is
>>>> stalking),
>>>> or not remember what you post?
>>>>
>>>> Either way, why should we bother?
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>> It was a long, rambling discourse, something about watching some home
>>> shopping channel on TV involving drain cleaner. Oh, and she was making
>>> rice for the "sick person" (someone is *always* sick in that house) and
>>> she put a frozen pizza in the oven. Wowsa! What a cook! Sounds
>>> like
>>> next week she'll have the opportunity to open a few more cans. Maybe buy
>>> another frozen pizza.
>>
>>I did say that I wasn't cooking because of the illness. I know this is a
>>concept that you don't get because you only have to cook for you. I'm not
>>the only person in this house.
>
> If I was sick, I think the last thing I'd want is plain rice. Maybe
> something simple like soup or scrambled eggs, or even a grilled
> cheese, but not rice.

Soup is hardly what I would call simple. She hates soup. Eggs are not easy
to digest and neither is dairy. She was eating what she was told to eat by
the ER Dr.

On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 15:36:13 -0500, Doris Night
> wrote:

> If I was sick, I think the last thing I'd want is plain rice. Maybe
> something simple like soup or scrambled eggs, or even a grilled
> cheese, but not rice.

I used to make a simple (mainly broth) chicken soup flavored with
ginger and just a little rice when the kids were ill.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...


"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 2/26/2015 6:14 PM, wrote:
>> But WHY did you post this incomplete, disjointed post here?
>>
> It didn't make any sense at all. Sounds like they gave her some heavy
> duty drugs when she had her last severe pain/health issue which suddenly,
> mysteriously resolved itself. Now her kitchen has experienced a miracle
> cure, too!

No. I have posted of the plumbing problems before and I posted about the
valances on the day that I ordered them. Whatever.

~~~~~~~
You post so many messages and at such great length that you surely can't
expect us to read and remember all of them. At least for myself, I look at
the subject and read selectively.

MaryL

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 15:36:13 -0500, Doris Night
> > wrote:
>
>> If I was sick, I think the last thing I'd want is plain rice. Maybe
>> something simple like soup or scrambled eggs, or even a grilled
>> cheese, but not rice.
>
> I used to make a simple (mainly broth) chicken soup flavored with
> ginger and just a little rice when the kids were ill.

Well, nobody in this house like the flavor of ginger in savory foods. And
the sick person won't usually eat soup.

"MaryL" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2/26/2015 6:14 PM, wrote:
>>> But WHY did you post this incomplete, disjointed post here?
>>>
>> It didn't make any sense at all. Sounds like they gave her some heavy
>> duty drugs when she had her last severe pain/health issue which suddenly,
>> mysteriously resolved itself. Now her kitchen has experienced a miracle
>> cure, too!
>
> No. I have posted of the plumbing problems before and I posted about the
> valances on the day that I ordered them. Whatever.
>
> ~~~~~~~
> You post so many messages and at such great length that you surely can't
> expect us to read and remember all of them. At least for myself, I look
> at the subject and read selectively.

Did I say that I expected anyone to remember? Seems that it doesn't matter
what I post, somebody will find fault with it.

On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 9:58:10 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 15:36:13 -0500, Doris Night
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> If I was sick, I think the last thing I'd want is plain rice. Maybe
> >> something simple like soup or scrambled eggs, or even a grilled
> >> cheese, but not rice.
> >
> > I used to make a simple (mainly broth) chicken soup flavored with
> > ginger and just a little rice when the kids were ill.
>
> Well, nobody in this house like the flavor of ginger in savory foods. And
> the sick person won't usually eat soup.

Who is this nameless "sick person"?...someone off the street perhaps?
Just curious...
========================

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 9:58:10 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 15:36:13 -0500, Doris Night
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> If I was sick, I think the last thing I'd want is plain rice. Maybe
>> >> something simple like soup or scrambled eggs, or even a grilled
>> >> cheese, but not rice.
>> >
>> > I used to make a simple (mainly broth) chicken soup flavored with
>> > ginger and just a little rice when the kids were ill.
>>
>> Well, nobody in this house like the flavor of ginger in savory foods.
>> And
>> the sick person won't usually eat soup.
>
> Who is this nameless "sick person"?...someone off the street perhaps?
> Just curious...
> ========================

It's nobody now. All sickness is gone. But why would I be feeding sick,
street people? I wouldn't.

In article >, says...
I also don't see why this post is out of

> line. This is a cooking group and this is a post about my kitchen.

Here's a clue; it's not a curtain valance group.

janet UK

"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...


"MaryL" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2/26/2015 6:14 PM, wrote:
>>> But WHY did you post this incomplete, disjointed post here?
>>>
>> It didn't make any sense at all. Sounds like they gave her some heavy
>> duty drugs when she had her last severe pain/health issue which suddenly,
>> mysteriously resolved itself. Now her kitchen has experienced a miracle
>> cure, too!
>
> No. I have posted of the plumbing problems before and I posted about the
> valances on the day that I ordered them. Whatever.
>
> ~~~~~~~
> You post so many messages and at such great length that you surely can't
> expect us to read and remember all of them. At least for myself, I look
> at the subject and read selectively.

Did I say that I expected anyone to remember? Seems that it doesn't matter
what I post, somebody will find fault with it.

~~~~~~~~
It certainly appears that way from some of your messages. In this case, you
say that previously posted of the plumbing problems and about valances on
the day you ordered them. On other occasions, you have reacted because
someone did not remember which foods you cannot eat (and there are many of
them).

MaryL

"MaryL" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>
>
> "MaryL" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>>
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 2/26/2015 6:14 PM, wrote:
>>>> But WHY did you post this incomplete, disjointed post here?
>>>>
>>> It didn't make any sense at all. Sounds like they gave her some heavy
>>> duty drugs when she had her last severe pain/health issue which
>>> suddenly, mysteriously resolved itself. Now her kitchen has experienced
>>> a miracle cure, too!
>>
>> No. I have posted of the plumbing problems before and I posted about the
>> valances on the day that I ordered them. Whatever.
>>
>> ~~~~~~~
>> You post so many messages and at such great length that you surely can't
>> expect us to read and remember all of them. At least for myself, I look
>> at the subject and read selectively.
>
> Did I say that I expected anyone to remember? Seems that it doesn't
> matter
> what I post, somebody will find fault with it.
>
> ~~~~~~~~
> It certainly appears that way from some of your messages. In this case,
> you say that previously posted of the plumbing problems and about valances
> on the day you ordered them. On other occasions, you have reacted because
> someone did not remember which foods you cannot eat (and there are many of
> them).
>
> MaryL

Nonsense! I never reacted to someone not remembering which foods I couldn't
eat, unless perhaps I mentioned something specific in that post, like eggs
and then someone replied for me to eat eggs.

On Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 9:36:40 AM UTC-8, Janet wrote:

> In article >, says...

> > I also don't see why this post is out of
> > line. This is a cooking group and this is a post about my kitchen.
>
> Here's a clue; it's not a curtain valance group.
>

The kitchen remodel I was foolishly expecting to read about (from
the title) would have been interesting. This stream of consciousness
reminiscence did not.

"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...


"MaryL" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>
>
> "MaryL" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>>
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 2/26/2015 6:14 PM, wrote:
>>>> But WHY did you post this incomplete, disjointed post here?
>>>>
>>> It didn't make any sense at all. Sounds like they gave her some heavy
>>> duty drugs when she had her last severe pain/health issue which
>>> suddenly, mysteriously resolved itself. Now her kitchen has experienced
>>> a miracle cure, too!
>>
>> No. I have posted of the plumbing problems before and I posted about the
>> valances on the day that I ordered them. Whatever.
>>
>> ~~~~~~~
>> You post so many messages and at such great length that you surely can't
>> expect us to read and remember all of them. At least for myself, I look
>> at the subject and read selectively.
>
> Did I say that I expected anyone to remember? Seems that it doesn't
> matter
> what I post, somebody will find fault with it.
>
> ~~~~~~~~
> It certainly appears that way from some of your messages. In this case,
> you say that previously posted of the plumbing problems and about valances
> on the day you ordered them. On other occasions, you have reacted because
> someone did not remember which foods you cannot eat (and there are many of
> them).
>
> MaryL

Nonsense! I never reacted to someone not remembering which foods I couldn't
eat, unless perhaps I mentioned something specific in that post, like eggs
and then someone replied for me to eat eggs.

~~~~~~~~
Absolutely not! There have been occasions when you sounded resentful
because someone suggested that you eat certain foods, and you reminded us
that you have food tolerances that you have previously discussed.

At this point, I will sign off from this thread. Threads that you start
seem to have a life of their own, and I don't want to add to it.

MaryL

"MaryL" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>
>
> "MaryL" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>>
>>
>> "MaryL" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 2/26/2015 6:14 PM, wrote:
>>>>> But WHY did you post this incomplete, disjointed post here?
>>>>>
>>>> It didn't make any sense at all. Sounds like they gave her some heavy
>>>> duty drugs when she had her last severe pain/health issue which
>>>> suddenly, mysteriously resolved itself. Now her kitchen has
>>>> experienced a miracle cure, too!
>>>
>>> No. I have posted of the plumbing problems before and I posted about
>>> the
>>> valances on the day that I ordered them. Whatever.
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~
>>> You post so many messages and at such great length that you surely can't
>>> expect us to read and remember all of them. At least for myself, I look
>>> at the subject and read selectively.
>>
>> Did I say that I expected anyone to remember? Seems that it doesn't
>> matter
>> what I post, somebody will find fault with it.
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~
>> It certainly appears that way from some of your messages. In this case,
>> you say that previously posted of the plumbing problems and about
>> valances on the day you ordered them. On other occasions, you have
>> reacted because someone did not remember which foods you cannot eat (and
>> there are many of them).
>>
>> MaryL
>
> Nonsense! I never reacted to someone not remembering which foods I
> couldn't
> eat, unless perhaps I mentioned something specific in that post, like eggs
> and then someone replied for me to eat eggs.
>
> ~~~~~~~~
> Absolutely not! There have been occasions when you sounded resentful
> because someone suggested that you eat certain foods, and you reminded us
> that you have food tolerances that you have previously discussed.
>
> At this point, I will sign off from this thread. Threads that you start
> seem to have a life of their own, and I don't want to add to it.

I have no idea what you are talking about or why someone would suggest that
I eat certain foods.

wrote:
> On Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 9:36:40 AM UTC-8, Janet wrote:
>
>> In article >, says...
>
>> > I also don't see why this post is out of
>> > line. This is a cooking group and this is a post about my kitchen.
>>
>> Here's a clue; it's not a curtain valance group.
>>
>
> The kitchen remodel I was foolishly expecting to read about (from
> the title) would have been interesting. This stream of consciousness
> reminiscence did not.

did not what?

wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> The kitchen remodel I was foolishly expecting to read about (from
> the title) would have been interesting. This stream of consciousness
> reminiscence did not.

Grin, here's a restart then.

I want to have a kitchen remodel but the design of the house will make
it hideously expensive to do anything 'real' there. Open design
bounded by structural support walls left me with only one wall to work
with and severe limits on counterspace compared to a modern kitchen. I
have a 51 inch section bounded by a sink on one side and a door to the
garage on the other. Then I have a corner (other side of sink) of 41
inches to the wall and a freestanding gas stove abutted to it making an
L shape. The part to the left of the sink and abutted to the stove
isnt very functional because you really can't reach back there well.

Next to the stove is a sliding glass door to the back porch with a
small china cabinet to the side we don't open (extra storage is
critical) then you have a gap until you get to the fridgerator and a
built in small pantry. The rest is open to the livingroom other than a
small wall which is partly built in bar (livingroom) and leads to the
garage door. The other side of the garage door is that 41 inches of
counterspace...

It's actually a good sized kitchen overall and that empty wall would
have been used for a kitchen table. You can also put a small (4
person) table in the center of the kitchen.

Our options were limited to a kitchen island in the center or using the
one empty wall. Lets add that other than the outlet for the fridge,
and one over each 41 inch section of counter, there were no other
outlets.

I pondered for as long as it took me to decide what I wanted to do and
came up with a lovely solution that fit my finances and skills. A lady
who'd moved back stateside from Italy (a place where you bring our own
kitchen cabinets) had a unit just right to fit that wall spot. It
needed some TLC but Don and i as a hobby refinish furniture and put it
back out on freecycle so this was no issue. We had to replace some
water damaged footer material on it but it's 50 inches long, 29 deep
and has a butcherblock looking laminate that matches my counters.

We added 2 outlets (separate circuits so they don't blow if using 4
appliances at once) at just about the height of a normal counter top.

I was all set to special order an 'island unit' be built when that
charming unit came up on freecycle. We fixed the minor damage (minor
to us) and got locking wheels which are mounted on the bottom.

Because the unit was made in Italy and expected to be moved about, it
looks like a cabinet from the front but the back and sides are fully
finished like a kitchen island would be. If we want to, we can unplg
the appliances and roll it to the center kitchen for working on, and
the store it back against the wall with appliances when done.
Extremely handy when making pita bread from the ABM as I need a rolling
surface to work with.

Grin, call it a mini-kitchen redo. We also had the floor linoleum
replaced and changed out the sink faucet to something nicer.

What are the rest plotting?



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On Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 6:40:05 AM UTC-8, tert in seattle wrote:
> wrote:
> > On Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 9:36:40 AM UTC-8, Janet wrote:
> >
> >> In article >, says...
> >
> >> > I also don't see why this post is out of
> >> > line. This is a cooking group and this is a post about my kitchen.
> >>
> >> Here's a clue; it's not a curtain valance group.
> >>
> >
> > The kitchen remodel I was foolishly expecting to read about (from
> > the title) would have been interesting. This stream of consciousness
> > reminiscence did not.
>
> did not what?

Did not edit my second sentence after I edited the first one.
"This stream of consciousness reminiscence was not."

On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 2:03:03 PM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 15:36:13 -0500, Doris Night
> > wrote:
>
> > If I was sick, I think the last thing I'd want is plain rice. Maybe
> > something simple like soup or scrambled eggs, or even a grilled
> > cheese, but not rice.
>
> I used to make a simple (mainly broth) chicken soup flavored with
> ginger and just a little rice when the kids were ill.

We call that soup "jook." I used to make that for my mother-in-law. It's good eats for people not up to eating regular food and she'd eat that most times. The neat thing about the stuff is that by scorching the rice lightly on the bottom, you create some wonderfully tasty material. Just make sure to mix it into the soup before serving. My guess is that it's synthesizing MSG-like compounds.

>
> --
> A kitchen without a cook is just a room

On Sun, 1 Mar 2015 11:44:37 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote:

> On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 2:03:03 PM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> > On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 15:36:13 -0500, Doris Night
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > If I was sick, I think the last thing I'd want is plain rice. Maybe
> > > something simple like soup or scrambled eggs, or even a grilled
> > > cheese, but not rice.
> >
> > I used to make a simple (mainly broth) chicken soup flavored with
> > ginger and just a little rice when the kids were ill.
>
> We call that soup "jook." I used to make that for my mother-in-law. It's good eats for people not up to eating regular food and she'd eat that most times. The neat thing about the stuff is that by scorching the rice lightly on the bottom, you create some wonderfully tasty material. Just make sure to mix it into the soup before serving. My guess is that it's synthesizing MSG-like compounds.
>

I didn't know! I thought Jook was mainly rice... soupy rice, but very
white. My soup is just ginger flavored chicken broth with a little
rice in it.

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A kitchen without a cook is just a room

On 3/2/2015 7:17 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Mar 2015 11:44:37 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
>> On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 2:03:03 PM UTC-10, sf wrote:
>>> On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 15:36:13 -0500, Doris Night
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I was sick, I think the last thing I'd want is plain rice. Maybe
>>>> something simple like soup or scrambled eggs, or even a grilled
>>>> cheese, but not rice.
>>>
>>> I used to make a simple (mainly broth) chicken soup flavored with
>>> ginger and just a little rice when the kids were ill.
>>
>> We call that soup "jook." I used to make that for my mother-in-law. It's good eats for people not up to eating regular food and she'd eat that most times. The neat thing about the stuff is that by scorching the rice lightly on the bottom, you create some wonderfully tasty material. Just make sure to mix it into the soup before serving. My guess is that it's synthesizing MSG-like compounds.
>>
>
> I didn't know! I thought Jook was mainly rice... soupy rice, but very
> white. My soup is just ginger flavored chicken broth with a little
> rice in it.
>

It's a heck of a comfort food although I guess you have to eat it when
you're a kid to feel the full comfort. It's a great way to make that
leftover roast chicken/turkey into something sublime. Adding some
shitake mushroom is always a good move.

My dad had some leeks growing on the side of the house so I pulled some
and made leek/potato soup. Ha ha, it's a pretty boring soup! Maybe it's
too elegant for me. :-)

On Mon, 02 Mar 2015 21:09:49 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

> On 3/2/2015 7:17 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 1 Mar 2015 11:44:37 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 2:03:03 PM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 15:36:13 -0500, Doris Night
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> If I was sick, I think the last thing I'd want is plain rice. Maybe
> >>>> something simple like soup or scrambled eggs, or even a grilled
> >>>> cheese, but not rice.
> >>>
> >>> I used to make a simple (mainly broth) chicken soup flavored with
> >>> ginger and just a little rice when the kids were ill.
> >>
> >> We call that soup "jook." I used to make that for my mother-in-law. It's good eats for people not up to eating regular food and she'd eat that most times. The neat thing about the stuff is that by scorching the rice lightly on the bottom, you create some wonderfully tasty material. Just make sure to mix it into the soup before serving. My guess is that it's synthesizing MSG-like compounds.
> >>
> >
> > I didn't know! I thought Jook was mainly rice... soupy rice, but very
> > white. My soup is just ginger flavored chicken broth with a little
> > rice in it.
> >
>
> It's a heck of a comfort food although I guess you have to eat it when
> you're a kid to feel the full comfort.

You must be correct, because my DD craves it when she's not feeling
well.

> It's a great way to make that
> leftover roast chicken/turkey into something sublime. Adding some
> shitake mushroom is always a good move.

Apparently we have a restaurant in town that serves excellent American
style jook. I tried it many times on my China vacation and didn't
like it any time. It's made with no salt and the additions were very
ethnic. Nothing was recognizable (like dried shrimp, mushrooms or
green onions). I think I tried them all and none appealed.
>
> My dad had some leeks growing on the side of the house so I pulled some
> and made leek/potato soup. Ha ha, it's a pretty boring soup! Maybe it's
> too elegant for me. :-)

I've never been a plain potato soup fan myself, but it's a great base
to add stuff to... anything from clams to ham works for me. I like it
because I prefer a thick soup to thin broth with "stuff" in it.

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A kitchen without a cook is just a room

On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 5:05:11 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Mar 2015 21:09:49 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> > On 3/2/2015 7:17 PM, sf wrote:
> > > On Sun, 1 Mar 2015 11:44:37 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 2:03:03 PM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> > >>> On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 15:36:13 -0500, Doris Night
> > >>> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> If I was sick, I think the last thing I'd want is plain rice. Maybe
> > >>>> something simple like soup or scrambled eggs, or even a grilled
> > >>>> cheese, but not rice.
> > >>>
> > >>> I used to make a simple (mainly broth) chicken soup flavored with
> > >>> ginger and just a little rice when the kids were ill.
> > >>
> > >> We call that soup "jook." I used to make that for my mother-in-law. It's good eats for people not up to eating regular food and she'd eat that most times. The neat thing about the stuff is that by scorching the rice lightly on the bottom, you create some wonderfully tasty material. Just make sure to mix it into the soup before serving. My guess is that it's synthesizing MSG-like compounds.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I didn't know! I thought Jook was mainly rice... soupy rice, but very
> > > white. My soup is just ginger flavored chicken broth with a little
> > > rice in it.
> > >
> >
> > It's a heck of a comfort food although I guess you have to eat it when
> > you're a kid to feel the full comfort.
>
> You must be correct, because my DD craves it when she's not feeling
> well.
>
> > It's a great way to make that
> > leftover roast chicken/turkey into something sublime. Adding some
> > shitake mushroom is always a good move.
>
> Apparently we have a restaurant in town that serves excellent American
> style jook. I tried it many times on my China vacation and didn't
> like it any time. It's made with no salt and the additions were very
> ethnic. Nothing was recognizable (like dried shrimp, mushrooms or
> green onions). I think I tried them all and none appealed.
> >
> > My dad had some leeks growing on the side of the house so I pulled some
> > and made leek/potato soup. Ha ha, it's a pretty boring soup! Maybe it's
> > too elegant for me. :-)
>
> I've never been a plain potato soup fan myself, but it's a great base
> to add stuff to... anything from clams to ham works for me. I like it
> because I prefer a thick soup to thin broth with "stuff" in it.

I'll dump some brocolli in it. I'm not a fan of the stuff but it'll make it more "interesting." :-)

>
> --
> A kitchen without a cook is just a room