I just need a cup or so for a CPAP machine. I used the last of the
distilled water until i get to the store tomorrow. I could ask the
manufacturer but of course they'll say no, nothing but distilled water.

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On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 6:59:04 PM UTC-8, Cheryl wrote:
> I just need a cup or so for a CPAP machine. I used the last of the
>
> distilled water until i get to the store tomorrow. I could ask the
>
> manufacturer but of course they'll say no, nothing but distilled water.
>
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They probably want distilled so that the minerals in the regular tap water don't clog the machine. I think one use with boiled water won't do enough damage to worry about.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
b.com...
>I just need a cup or so for a CPAP machine. I used the last of the
>distilled water until i get to the store tomorrow. I could ask the
>manufacturer but of course they'll say no, nothing but distilled water.
>

I would say no. Boiled water will still contain dissolved minerals where
Distilled has none.



Robert

On 12/11/2013 10:03 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 6:59:04 PM UTC-8, Cheryl wrote:
>> I just need a cup or so for a CPAP machine. I used the last of the
>>
>> distilled water until i get to the store tomorrow. I could ask the
>>
>> manufacturer but of course they'll say no, nothing but distilled water.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
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>
> They probably want distilled so that the minerals in the regular tap water don't clog the machine. I think one use with boiled water won't do enough damage to worry about.
>
I agree with that assessment. We buy distilled water for John's c-pap
but a one time use of just boiled tap water should be fine.

Jill

On 12/11/2013 10:35 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 12/11/2013 10:03 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 6:59:04 PM UTC-8, Cheryl wrote:
>>> I just need a cup or so for a CPAP machine. I used the last of the
>>>
>>> distilled water until i get to the store tomorrow. I could ask the
>>>
>>> manufacturer but of course they'll say no, nothing but distilled water.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>
>> They probably want distilled so that the minerals in the regular tap
>> water don't clog the machine. I think one use with boiled water
>> won't do enough damage to worry about.
>>
> I agree with that assessment. We buy distilled water for John's c-pap
> but a one time use of just boiled tap water should be fine.
>
> Jill
I figured the same, that one time isn't going to hurt it. The water is
cooking now, so I can go to bed. |o)


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On 12/11/2013 10:18 PM, Robert wrote:
>
> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
> b.com...
>> I just need a cup or so for a CPAP machine. I used the last of the
>> distilled water until i get to the store tomorrow. I could ask the
>> manufacturer but of course they'll say no, nothing but distilled water.
>>
>
> I would say no. Boiled water will still contain dissolved minerals where
> Distilled has none.
>
>
>
> Robert
One no. Ok, I respect that. I'm going to have to use boiled for just
tonight though.

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On 12/11/2013 10:39 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 12/11/2013 10:35 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 12/11/2013 10:03 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 6:59:04 PM UTC-8, Cheryl wrote:
>>>> I just need a cup or so for a CPAP machine. I used the last of the
>>>>
>>>> distilled water until i get to the store tomorrow. I could ask the
>>>>
>>>> manufacturer but of course they'll say no, nothing but distilled water.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
>>> They probably want distilled so that the minerals in the regular tap
>>> water don't clog the machine. I think one use with boiled water
>>> won't do enough damage to worry about.
>>>
>> I agree with that assessment. We buy distilled water for John's c-pap
>> but a one time use of just boiled tap water should be fine.
>>
>> Jill
> I figured the same, that one time isn't going to hurt it. The water is
> cooking now, so I can go to bed. |o)
>
>
Sleep well!

Jill

On 12/11/2013 10:55 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 21:59:04 -0500, Cheryl wrote:
>
>> I just need a cup or so for a CPAP machine. I used the last of the
>> distilled water until i get to the store tomorrow. I could ask the
>> manufacturer but of course they'll say no, nothing but distilled water.
>
> You'd be better off using tap water than boiled water. Boiling water
> just concentrates the mineral content. The stuff that's evaporating
> is your distilled water.
>
> -sw
>
Interesting. I noticed on the jug of distilled it said pure steam.
that makes sense.

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On 12/11/2013 9:59 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> I just need a cup or so for a CPAP machine. I used the last of the
> distilled water until i get to the store tomorrow. I could ask the
> manufacturer but of course they'll say no, nothing but distilled water.
>

The difference is minerals in the water. Short term, use it if you
must. This information comes from a respiratory therapist with over 12
years experience with c-pap machines.

No need to boil it unless you have bacterial contamination.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
b.com...
>I just need a cup or so for a CPAP machine. I used the last of the
>distilled water until i get to the store tomorrow. I could ask the
>manufacturer but of course they'll say no, nothing but distilled water.

I was told to only use distilled for mine, even when traveling.

On 12/11/2013 8:55 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> You'd be better off using tap water than boiled water.


You'd be better off gargling with Drano.

On 12/11/2013 10:39 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
> b.com...
>> I just need a cup or so for a CPAP machine. I used the last of the
>> distilled water until i get to the store tomorrow. I could ask the
>> manufacturer but of course they'll say no, nothing but distilled water.
>
> I was told to only use distilled for mine, even when traveling.


Distilled, or deionized, or reverse osmosis. They are effectively the
same thing.

Bob

On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:55:12 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> You'd be better off using tap water than boiled water. Boiling water
> just concentrates the mineral content. The stuff that's evaporating
> is your distilled water.
>
> -sw

If all you do is bring the water to a boil for a
couple of minutes it reduces the dissolved
minerals. At elevated temperatures a proportion
will precipitate out, generally sticking to the
sides of the pot.

http://www.richardfisher.com

Cheryl wrote:
>
> I just need a cup or so for a CPAP machine. I used the last of the
> distilled water until i get to the store tomorrow. I could ask the
> manufacturer but of course they'll say no, nothing but distilled water.

No. Boiling will actually concentrate the mineral contaminants since you
are removing some of the water as steam. Distilling you are condensing
and collecting the steam only, leaving the contaminants behind.

Helpful person wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:55:12 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> > You'd be better off using tap water than boiled water. Boiling water
> > just concentrates the mineral content. The stuff that's evaporating
> > is your distilled water.
> >
> > -sw
>
> If all you do is bring the water to a boil for a
> couple of minutes it reduces the dissolved
> minerals. At elevated temperatures a proportion
> will precipitate out, generally sticking to the
> sides of the pot.

I suspect a quick boil would be to get rid of the chlorine in the city
water...you don't want to breathe that in your CPAP.

G.

On 12/12/2013 9:20 AM, Gary wrote:
> Helpful person wrote:
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:55:12 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>> You'd be better off using tap water than boiled water. Boiling water
>>> just concentrates the mineral content. The stuff that's evaporating
>>> is your distilled water.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>> If all you do is bring the water to a boil for a
>> couple of minutes it reduces the dissolved
>> minerals. At elevated temperatures a proportion
>> will precipitate out, generally sticking to the
>> sides of the pot.
>
> I suspect a quick boil would be to get rid of the chlorine in the city
> water...you don't want to breathe that in your CPAP.
>
> G.
>
Boiling may kill any bacteria and remove dissolved *chlorine* but not
ions like chloride, carbonate and sodium. You only have to boil a pot
dry to see what stays after boiling.

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Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 21:59:04 -0500, Cheryl >
> wrote:
>
> > I just need a cup or so for a CPAP machine. I used the last of the
> > distilled water until i get to the store tomorrow. I could ask the
> > manufacturer but of course they'll say no, nothing but distilled
> > water.
>
> I don't know what a CPAP machine is but suspect it is like a steam
> iron where they recommend distilled water against the build up that
> occurs with regular water of calcium. Wouldn't think any machine
> would be injured by one use of non-distilled water, but don't really
> know.

I looked up cpap on Google. It seems cheryl is probably talking about
a respirator type of machine. Like someone else noted, distillation
removes contaminants (particulates) from the water whereas boiling
water would concentrate them. Considering the purpose of the machine,
it'd probably be better to stick with distilled water. There's no
telling how sensitive the equipment in the machine is to particulates,
i.e., gumming up the works as it were. I tend to err on the side of
caution on something like this.

On 12/12/2013 7:12 AM, Helpful person wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:55:12 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> You'd be better off using tap water than boiled water. Boiling
>> water just concentrates the mineral content. The stuff that's
>> evaporating is your distilled water.
>>
>> -sw
>
> If all you do is bring the water to a boil for a couple of minutes it
> reduces the dissolved minerals. At elevated temperatures a
> proportion will precipitate out, generally sticking to the sides of
> the pot.

Yep. (I can't believe how many people here got that wrong)

Boil it briefly, let it cool enough to handle, and filter it will remove
a lot of the minerals. It does a couple of things; calcium salts are
*less* soluble in hot water, and boiling will convert some of the
bicarbonate ions into carbonate. So calcium carbonate precipitates out.

I don't think it's worth the trouble for one night in a CPAP machine.

Bob

"Cheryl" wrote in message
b.com...

I just need a cup or so for a CPAP machine. I used the last of the
distilled water until i get to the store tomorrow. I could ask the
manufacturer but of course they'll say no, nothing but distilled water.

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~~~~~~
I don't think you can substitute boiled water. Distilled water does not
have minerals that leave a residue. However, I don't see how a single day
could be harmful--but I'm also not an expert.

Do the instructions say anything about how to clean your machine? I
remember instructions that came with steam irons (years ago) that
recommended distilled water, and they also said to use white vinegar to
clean it. Of course, the steam iron could be turned on to heat the vinegar.

MaryL

You guys are all cooks. No one mentioned 'cooking' up a batch of distilled?
I can evap a cup in ten minutes.

On 12/12/2013 10:37 AM, MaryL wrote:
> I don't think you can substitute boiled water. Distilled water does not
> have minerals that leave a residue. However, I don't see how a single
> day could be harmful--but I'm also not an expert.
>
> Do the instructions say anything about how to clean your machine? I
> remember instructions that came with steam irons (years ago) that
> recommended distilled water, and they also said to use white vinegar to
> clean it. Of course, the steam iron could be turned on to heat the
> vinegar.
>
> MaryL

CPAPs don't heat up. It's cool water vapor to keep the sinuses open.
Cuts down on sleep apnea and snoring.

Jill

"jmcquown" wrote in message ...

On 12/12/2013 10:37 AM, MaryL wrote:
> I don't think you can substitute boiled water. Distilled water does not
> have minerals that leave a residue. However, I don't see how a single
> day could be harmful--but I'm also not an expert.
>
> Do the instructions say anything about how to clean your machine? I
> remember instructions that came with steam irons (years ago) that
> recommended distilled water, and they also said to use white vinegar to
> clean it. Of course, the steam iron could be turned on to heat the
> vinegar.
>
> MaryL

CPAPs don't heat up. It's cool water vapor to keep the sinuses open.
Cuts down on sleep apnea and snoring.

Jill

~~~~~~
Yes, I know that. That's the reason I mentioned that steam irons will heat
the vinegar. So, I don't know if it would help with a CPAP (which don't
heat). Sorry I did not make myself clear.

MaryL

"The Other Guy" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 08:08:36 -0400, wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 21:59:04 -0500, Cheryl >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I just need a cup or so for a CPAP machine. I used the last of the
>>>distilled water until i get to the store tomorrow. I could ask the
>>>manufacturer but of course they'll say no, nothing but distilled water.
>>
>>I don't know what a CPAP machine is
>
> It's for people who suffer from sleep apnea.

Ahh ok! Is it just steam based? I use a nebuliser for asthma but it uses
no steam so I wasn't able to figure it out

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On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 19:03:08 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 6:59:04 PM UTC-8, Cheryl wrote:
>> I just need a cup or so for a CPAP machine. I used the last of the
>>
>> distilled water until i get to the store tomorrow. I could ask the
>>
>> manufacturer but of course they'll say no, nothing but distilled water.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
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>
>They probably want distilled so that the minerals in the regular tap water don't clog the machine. I think one use with boiled water won't do enough damage to worry about.

Why bother to boil tap water, boiling will concentrate the minerals.

On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 22:35:22 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 12/11/2013 10:03 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 6:59:04 PM UTC-8, Cheryl wrote:
>>> I just need a cup or so for a CPAP machine. I used the last of the
>>>
>>> distilled water until i get to the store tomorrow. I could ask the
>>>
>>> manufacturer but of course they'll say no, nothing but distilled water.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> CAPSLOCK�Preventing Login Since 1980.
>>
>> They probably want distilled so that the minerals in the regular tap water don't clog the machine. I think one use with boiled water won't do enough damage to worry about.
>>
>I agree with that assessment. We buy distilled water for John's c-pap
>but a one time use of just boiled tap water should be fine.

Distilled water is not sterile water. Boiling will concentrate the
minerals. If you ran out of distilled water it's best NOT to boil tap
water.

On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 05:12:03 -0800 (PST), Helpful person
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:55:12 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> You'd be better off using tap water than boiled water. Boiling water
>> just concentrates the mineral content. The stuff that's evaporating
>> is your distilled water.
>>
>> -sw
>
>If all you do is bring the water to a boil for a
>couple of minutes it reduces the dissolved
>minerals. At elevated temperatures a proportion
>will precipitate out, generally sticking to the
>sides of the pot.

WRONG!

On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 20:49:55 -0800, The Other Guy
> wrote:

>On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 21:59:04 -0500, Cheryl >
>wrote:
>
>>I just need a cup or so for a CPAP machine. I used the last of the
>>distilled water until i get to the store tomorrow. I could ask the
>>manufacturer but of course they'll say no, nothing but distilled water.
>
>Distilled water is 'clean', free of minerals and other junk.
>
>Boiled water is exactly the opposite; some water evaporates,
>and the contaminates are concentrated.
>
>NOT a good idea for a CPAP machine!

'Zactly.

Would not risk it on something pertaining to human health and well being. Go to the store and buy more.

On 12/12/2013 7:16 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> If Sheldon says I'm right then I must be wrong.


You're a dwarf and an attention whore.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 22:35:22 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> >On 12/11/2013 10:03 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 6:59:04 PM UTC-8, Cheryl wrote:
> >>> I just need a cup or so for a CPAP machine. I used the last of the
> >>>
> >>> distilled water until i get to the store tomorrow. I could ask the
> >>>
> >>> manufacturer but of course they'll say no, nothing but distilled water.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> CAPSLOCK�Preventing Login Since 1980.
> >>
> >> They probably want distilled so that the minerals in the regular tap water don't clog the machine. I think one use with boiled water won't do enough damage to worry about.
> >>
> >I agree with that assessment. We buy distilled water for John's c-pap
> >but a one time use of just boiled tap water should be fine.
>
> Distilled water is not sterile water. Boiling will concentrate the
> minerals. If you ran out of distilled water it's best NOT to boil tap
> water.

I think boiling just removes the chlorine in city water. You can also
do that by leaving city water out overnight uncovered. A quick boil
should not concentrate minerals. Someone with a CPAP machine should
always keep backups of distilled water.

G.

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 10:06:10 AM UTC-5, zxcvbob wrote:
> On 12/12/2013 7:12 AM, Helpful person wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:55:12 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> > If all you do is bring the water to a boil for a couple of minutes it
> > reduces the dissolved minerals. At elevated temperatures a
> > proportion will precipitate out, generally sticking to the sides of
> > the pot.
>
> Yep. (I can't believe how many people here got that wrong)
>
> Boil it briefly, let it cool enough to handle, and filter it will remove
> a lot of the minerals. It does a couple of things; calcium salts are
> *less* soluble in hot water, and boiling will convert some of the
> bicarbonate ions into carbonate. So calcium carbonate precipitates out.
>
> Bob

From reading this news group I'm not surprised at the lack of
knowledge. However, what never fails to surprise me is the
greater the ignorance the more vociferous the incorrect answer.

http://www.richardfisher.com

In article >, Gary > wrote:
>
>I think boiling just removes the chlorine in city water. You can also
>do that by leaving city water out overnight uncovered. A quick boil
>should not concentrate minerals. Someone with a CPAP machine should
>always keep backups of distilled water.

I don't know about the OP, but we do. However, once in a great
while, he uses up all the distilled without putting it on the
shopping list and has to make do for a night with ordinary bottled
water. It's an imperfect world.

It's a rare occurrence, as the OP's question suggests. If it happened
all the time, she'd already know what to do about it.

Cindy Hamilton
--

On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 14:30:59 GMT, (Cindy Hamilton)
wrote:

>In article >, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>I think boiling just removes the chlorine in city water. You can also
>>do that by leaving city water out overnight uncovered. A quick boil
>>should not concentrate minerals. Someone with a CPAP machine should
>>always keep backups of distilled water.
>
>I don't know about the OP, but we do. However, once in a great
>while, he uses up all the distilled without putting it on the
>shopping list and has to make do for a night with ordinary bottled
>water. It's an imperfect world.
>
>It's a rare occurrence, as the OP's question suggests. If it happened
>all the time, she'd already know what to do about it.

I used to be big into tropical fish, and since NYC water is
chlorinated all that was required to remove the chlorine was to leave
it stand for 24 hours. However most municipal water is not
chlorinated... Suffolk County, Long Island does not chlorinate.
I see no reason to heat bottled water, that will neither remove the
minerals nor will it be sterile... even bottled distilled water is not
sterile.

On 12/14/2013 2:16 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Pompous much?
>
> -sw

Et tu?

Cheryl wrote:
> I just need a cup or so for a CPAP machine. I used the last of the
> distilled water until i get to the store tomorrow. I could ask the
> manufacturer but of course they'll say no, nothing but distilled water.
>
No, you can't.
Distilled water is pure water; the gaseous H2O caught in distillation.
Boiled water is hot water.

On 12/16/2013 1:59 PM, Michael Kuettner wrote:
> Cheryl wrote:
>> I just need a cup or so for a CPAP machine. I used the last of the
>> distilled water until i get to the store tomorrow. I could ask the
>> manufacturer but of course they'll say no, nothing but distilled water.
>>
> No, you can't.
> Distilled water is pure water; the gaseous H2O caught in distillation.
> Boiled water is hot water.
>

Right, but for a cup, she can use top water. No need to boil it. My
answer comes from a respiratory therapist that suppplies and sets up
patients with the machines.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 12/16/2013 1:59 PM, Michael Kuettner wrote:
>> Cheryl wrote:
>>> I just need a cup or so for a CPAP machine. I used the last of the
>>> distilled water until i get to the store tomorrow. I could ask the
>>> manufacturer but of course they'll say no, nothing but distilled water.
>>>
>> No, you can't.
>> Distilled water is pure water; the gaseous H2O caught in distillation.
>> Boiled water is hot water.
>>
>
> Right, but for a cup, she can use top water. No need to boil it. My
> answer comes from a respiratory therapist that suppplies and sets up
> patients with the machines.

Then I would change the therapist.
Tap water has things like chalk, iron, etc.
Those clog the machine.
Boiling won't help, yes. Just use distilled water.

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

On 12/11/2013 11:39 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
> b.com...
>> I just need a cup or so for a CPAP machine. I used the last of the
>> distilled water until i get to the store tomorrow. I could ask the
>> manufacturer but of course they'll say no, nothing but distilled water.
>
> I was told to only use distilled for mine, even when traveling.

A little late to respond, but I only just started using this machine so
I didn't realize how much I'd go through. I keep plenty on hand now.

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On 12/12/2013 10:37 AM, MaryL wrote:

> Do the instructions say anything about how to clean your machine? I
> remember instructions that came with steam irons (years ago) that
> recommended distilled water, and they also said to use white vinegar to
> clean it. Of course, the steam iron could be turned on to heat the
> vinegar.

I have instructions but I haven't tried to clean the unit itself yet,
only the mask parts. I'll look at the manual tonight. I only used the
boiled water that first night when I asked, then I refilled my supply of
distilled water.

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On 12/12/2013 11:41 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 12/12/2013 10:37 AM, MaryL wrote:
>> I don't think you can substitute boiled water. Distilled water does not
>> have minerals that leave a residue. However, I don't see how a single
>> day could be harmful--but I'm also not an expert.
>>
>> Do the instructions say anything about how to clean your machine? I
>> remember instructions that came with steam irons (years ago) that
>> recommended distilled water, and they also said to use white vinegar to
>> clean it. Of course, the steam iron could be turned on to heat the
>> vinegar.
>>
>> MaryL
>
> CPAPs don't heat up. It's cool water vapor to keep the sinuses open.
> Cuts down on sleep apnea and snoring.
>
> Jill

This one actually has a heating unit to supply warm moist air.

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