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On 06/03/2013 3:02 PM, injipoint wrote:
We asked him why he did it. He said he wanted the blessing because he didn't know which one of them was right and he wanted to cover all bases for when he died. I can appreciate the sentiment but should point out that most religious people would disagree. Fundamentalist have little tolerance for anything but their way and even having that sign on their forehead is a form of worshipping another god..... and you're going to go to hell. |
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On 3/6/2013 2:00 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
I beg to differ. I have come to realize that they don't really care if you have a blessed day, or good day or even if you drop dead as soon as you walk out the door. They just want you to know they are great christians. Whatever. If good wishes come my way in the form of a blessing or someone just smiling at me, I'll take it in good spirit no matter what the person's motivation or level of hypocrisy. George L |
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George Leppla wrote:
That's not the message I get. To me, it's a reflexive expression of Baptists' ingrained religious fascism. They are supremely intolerant of anybody whom they can't corner and cram full of their proselytizing garbage. Wow. You get all that from someone saying "Have a blessed day"? Really? No room for the possibility that someone might just be offering a stranger some good wishes without any ulterior motives? Not from her. She wears this grim expression and she slams the register shut. Plus she has a huge ring with a cross on it and a pendant with "J E S U S S A V E S" haning round her neck. The only missing accouterment is a little mini-bible. BTW - the person I know who uses some form of the word the word "blessing" the most isn't even Christian... never mind a Baptist. Oh, so she just likes the way it sounds? That's rare and exotic. |
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George Leppla wrote:
I beg to differ. I have come to realize that they don't really care if you have a blessed day, or good day or even if you drop dead as soon as you walk out the door. They just want you to know they are great christians. Whatever. If good wishes come my way in the form of a blessing or someone just smiling at me, I'll take it in good spirit no matter what the person's motivation or level of hypocrisy. He just splained you it ain't no "good wishes". Read it again. |
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On 6/03/2013 9:07 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 06/03/2013 3:02 PM, injipoint wrote: We asked him why he did it. He said he wanted the blessing because he didn't know which one of them was right and he wanted to cover all bases for when he died. I can appreciate the sentiment but should point out that most religious people would disagree. Fundamentalist have little tolerance for anything but their way and even having that sign on their forehead is a form of worshipping another god..... and you're going to go to hell. I very much doubt that it will be me going to hell. |
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On 3/6/2013 2:12 PM, George Leppla wrote:
On 3/6/2013 12:55 PM, George M. Middius wrote: George Leppla wrote: One of the cashiers at my TJ's ends every transaction with "Have a blessed day." I hate that. I may not have anything in common with the person saying it and I'm pretty sure that our religious beliefs aren't the same... but if a stranger wants to take the time to throw a blessing my way as an expression of good will... or an expression of their faith, I'm OK with that. That's not the message I get. To me, it's a reflexive expression of Baptists' ingrained religious fascism. They are supremely intolerant of anybody whom they can't corner and cram full of their proselytizing garbage. Wow. You get all that from someone saying "Have a blessed day"? Really? No room for the possibility that someone might just be offering a stranger some good wishes without any ulterior motives? BTW - the person I know who uses some form of the word the word "blessing" the most isn't even Christian... never mind a Baptist. George L LOL I couldn't tell you where there's a Baptist church in my area. Mostly Catholic, Episcopal or Methodist. And yes, people tell me to have a "blessed day". Wiccans also use the expression, or "blessed be". I don't conjur up an image of any particular religion when I hear it. Jill |
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On 3/6/2013 2:42 PM, George M. Middius wrote:
George Leppla wrote: I beg to differ. I have come to realize that they don't really care if you have a blessed day, or good day or even if you drop dead as soon as you walk out the door. They just want you to know they are great christians. Whatever. If good wishes come my way in the form of a blessing or someone just smiling at me, I'll take it in good spirit no matter what the person's motivation or level of hypocrisy. He just splained you it ain't no "good wishes". Read it again. I can't tell you the motivation of why people say what they say, but I can tell you one thing for sure.... When someone wishes me a blessed day I walk away with a smile on my face.... if other people choose to scowl, that is up to them. YMMV George L |
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On 06/03/2013 6:17 PM, graham wrote:
f them. I would really rather have someone just say good bye or good day to me than to try to demonstrate their religious zeal in my direction. You must ALWAYS be careful when doing business with such a person! They will try and screw you. My grandfather warned me of this some 60 years ago and he has been proven right on several occasions since then but forewarned was forearmed! Graham I worked in the enforcement business for a long time. One of the things I learned over the years was that whenever anyone said "I swear to God: or " Honest to God" the next thing thing that would come out of their mouth would be a lie. |
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George Leppla wrote: When someone wishes me a blessed day I walk away with a smile on my face.... if other people choose to scowl, that is up to them. Personal belief has nothing to do with someone offering their goodwill. I also take the blessing and am grateful whenever it is offered in any form. leo |
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On 3/6/2013 10:12 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
In article , George Leppla wrote: When someone wishes me a blessed day I walk away with a smile on my face.... if other people choose to scowl, that is up to them. Personal belief has nothing to do with someone offering their goodwill. I also take the blessing and am grateful whenever it is offered in any form. leo There you go, Leo! It is a shame that we as a society have become so cynical that we can't even accept good wishes from a stranger (no matter what their motivation). George L |
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On 3/7/2013 6:08 AM, jmcquown wrote:
So many people who purport to be such "good Christians" are hypocrites. Many years ago I had a friend who was a school teacher. She got a job in a private Baptist academy. (She was a lapsed Catholic.) They made her sign a statement saying she would not drink or dance. Dance! She was 24 and single, of course she went to clubs. And yes, she ran into a lot of these alleged "good" Baptists out drinking and dancing on Friday or Saturday nights. Jill Down here we call them "50 mile Baptists". They don't drink, dance or gamble within 50 miles of home, but once they get out of home range, the party begins. Joke: Jews don't recognize Jesus as the Son of God. Lutherans don't recognize the Pope as the head of the Christian Church. Baptists don't recognize each other in the liquor store. George L |
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On 3/7/2013 8:12 AM, George Leppla wrote:
On 3/7/2013 6:08 AM, jmcquown wrote: So many people who purport to be such "good Christians" are hypocrites. Many years ago I had a friend who was a school teacher. She got a job in a private Baptist academy. (She was a lapsed Catholic.) They made her sign a statement saying she would not drink or dance. Dance! She was 24 and single, of course she went to clubs. And yes, she ran into a lot of these alleged "good" Baptists out drinking and dancing on Friday or Saturday nights. Jill Down here we call them "50 mile Baptists". They don't drink, dance or gamble within 50 miles of home, but once they get out of home range, the party begins. Joke: Jews don't recognize Jesus as the Son of God. Lutherans don't recognize the Pope as the head of the Christian Church. Baptists don't recognize each other in the liquor store. George L Too funny! That last was definitely the case. Around that same time one of my brothers dated a woman who was a Jehovah's Witness. She told him over and over again, they don't "do" birthday or Christmas presents. He took her at her word. Whew, I don't have to buy her a gift! Then she got ****ed off because he didn't. Jill |
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On 07/03/2013 9:05 AM, jmcquown wrote:
Around that same time one of my brothers dated a woman who was a Jehovah's Witness. She told him over and over again, they don't "do" birthday or Christmas presents. He took her at her word. Whew, I don't have to buy her a gift! Then she got ****ed off because he didn't. I had a JH for a boss for a while and she always made a big deal of not doing birthdays and Christmas. I always used to book vacation time between Christmas and New Years and always had more than enough vacation credit saved up for it. One year I put in vacation requests, booking time for the summer and a separate one for Christmas. I waited and waited for the approval for the Christmas vacation. We had a staff meeting in early December and she announced that she had a number of requests for vacation over Christmas and that her records showed that some people had had Christmas vacations for a number of years and we should think about sharing it around, so if anyone else wanted the time off they should get their requests in soon so she could make her decision on who would get the time off. I was furious. I had a lot of seniority and I had had my request in 6 months earlier. It might have been different if there had been a number of others already asking for it, but there wasn't. There she was, inviting people to apply for vacation for that same time, looking to create a problem. I was going to take the time anyway. I would have filed a grievance and given my seniority and the timing of the requests, I would have won it. As it turned out, I got the time off. The woman who is a JH and who does not celebrate Christmas and who tried to cause a conflict over vacation times..... she took the week off too. |
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On 3/7/2013 9:48 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 07/03/2013 9:05 AM, jmcquown wrote: Around that same time one of my brothers dated a woman who was a Jehovah's Witness. She told him over and over again, they don't "do" birthday or Christmas presents. He took her at her word. Whew, I don't have to buy her a gift! Then she got ****ed off because he didn't. I had a JH for a boss for a while and she always made a big deal of not doing birthdays and Christmas. I always used to book vacation time between Christmas and New Years and always had more than enough vacation credit saved up for it. One year I put in vacation requests, booking time for the summer and a separate one for Christmas. I waited and waited for the approval for the Christmas vacation. (snip understandable rant) As it turned out, I got the time off. The woman who is a JH and who does not celebrate Christmas and who tried to cause a conflict over vacation times..... she took the week off too. Managers can be such assholes. No JH need be involved. I'd been working for this company for years and had seniority. I'd save up my vacation time and take an extended holiday, Christmas through New Years. I'd been doing it for years. We were asked to plan out our vacation for the year in January, by March if possible. Okay. One year my then manager called me aside and asked me if I'd switch my vacation days. Would you take off over July 4th (American Independence Day) instead of Christmas? The reason she gave me was, in reviewing the requests, "This guy has kids, you don't. He might prefr Christmas." (Man, did that tick my father off when I told him about it!) She made it sound like Kevin had complained about the vacation schedule. He and I were friends. I said hey, if you want your vacation over Christmas off I have no problem switching. He said no! He'd scheduled his vacation around a family camping trip in July. We didn't know why she was trying to micro-manage our time off. Jill |
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On Thu, 07 Mar 2013 09:48:14 -0500, Dave Smith
wrote: I had a JH for a boss for a while Here's how little I know... why use JH for Jehovah's Witness? I'd use JW. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |