You however, are not.

"bulka" > wrote in message
...
> This book is hilarious.

On 2010-05-27 03:35:18 -0700, Kswck said:

> You however, are not.
>
> "bulka" > wrote in message
> ...
This
>
>> book is hilarious.

Attack in two! That's fast.

What do you find hilarious in Larousse, bulka?
--
If God didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?

gtr wrote on Thu, 27 May 2010 07:13:18 -0700:

>> You however, are not.
>>
>> "bulka" > wrote in message
>> ...
> This
>>
>>> book is hilarious.

> Attack in two! That's fast.

> What do you find hilarious in Larousse, bulka?

>f God didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?

Isn't that better said, following Flanders and Swann's "The Reluctant
Cannibal", "If the Juju had not wanted us to eat people, he wouldn't
have made people of meat".

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

"James Silverton" > wrote in message
...
| gtr wrote on Thu, 27 May 2010 07:13:18 -0700:
|
| >> You however, are not.
| >>
| >> "bulka" > wrote in message
| >> ...
| > This
| >>
| >>> book is hilarious.
|
| > Attack in two! That's fast.
|
| > What do you find hilarious in Larousse, bulka?
|
| >f God didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
|
| Isn't that better said, following Flanders and Swann's "The Reluctant
| Cannibal", "If the Juju had not wanted us to eat people, he wouldn't
| have made people of meat".

The latter saying cannibalizes the former.

pavane

Kswck wrote:
> You however, are not.
>
> "bulka" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>This book is hilarious.
>
>
>

One wonders how the original poster defines "hilarious"?

It is not the term that immediately springs to mind when i think of the
Larusse, "ponderous tome" however, seems appropriate.
--

Mr. Joseph Paul Littleshoes Esq.

Domine, dirige nos.

Let the games begin!
http://fredeeky.typepad.com/fredeeky.../sf_anthem.mp3

"Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." > wrote in
:

> It is not the term that immediately springs to mind when i
> think of the Larusse, "ponderous tome" however, seems
> appropriate.

Freemasonic twaddle is more like it. Larousse was an apron-wearer.

--
"When a government starts to cancel dissent or avoid dissent
is frankly when it's rapidly losing its moral authority to
govern."

Stephen Harper, 18 April 2005

Michel Boucher wrote:
> "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." > wrote in
> :
>
>
>>It is not the term that immediately springs to mind when i
>>think of the Larusse, "ponderous tome" however, seems
>>appropriate.
>
>
> Freemasonic twaddle is more like it. Larousse was an apron-wearer.
>

So what is that supposed to mean? some sort of Gallic envy M. Boucher?
--

Herr Joseph Paul Littleshoes Esq.

Domine, dirige nos.

Let the games begin!
http://fredeeky.typepad.com/fredeeky.../sf_anthem.mp3

"Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." > wrote in
:

>> Freemasonic twaddle is more like it. Larousse was an
>> apron-wearer.
>
> So what is that supposed to mean? some sort of Gallic envy M.
> Boucher?

Gallic envy? Are you just trying to make conversation with
platitudes or do you misunderstand what I am saying? Larousse was
a freemason. I do not envy freemasons, whether they are French,
English, Chinese, Italian or what have you.

--

"When a government starts to cancel dissent or avoid dissent
is frankly when it's rapidly losing its moral authority to
govern."

Stephen Harper, 18 April 2005

> |
> | > What do you find hilarious in Larousse, bulka?
> |
>
A fair question. I was pretty tired at the original post.

I know it is an historical reference, but I've been enjoying just
reading it through. The alphabetic arrangement makes for some odd
juxtapositions, the constant cross-references makes it read like a law
book, the long lists of recipes, each with a fancy name, that differ
only in garnish. It is hard to believe that people ever really ate
this way. The whole thing reads like a fantasy encyclopedia written
by Borges, or some science-fiction description of alien culture.

And then, there are passages like this :

"At the last moment, fill the middle with a ragout composed of lambs'
sweetbreads, cocks' combs and kidneys, truffles and mushrooms, in
Veloute sauce (see SAUCE) flavoured with Madeira-laced Truffle fumet
(see FUMET) ." Good luck shopping at Kroger.

I've always assumed all animals have kidneys, but have never seen one
from a chicken. For as often as "cocks' combs" show up, I'd assumed
it was a fanciful name for a plant, like horseradish or foxglove. No,
they want you to pull something off the head of a rooster.

Maybe my sense of humor is a little off, but this is cracking me up.
And I might accidentally learn something.

OBFood - I thought I was just baking the same old chicken tonight,
but looks like it might be damned close to a la Matignon. Wonder if
it'll taste any better.

Bulka

"CAT. Chat - Domestic cat whose edible meat has a flavour halfway
between that of rabbit and that of hare. . . Legend has it that in the
cook-shops the cat is often used in the making of rabbit fricassees.
Examination of the bones would easily enable one, in case of doubt, to
distinguish between the one animal and the other."

> |
> | > What do you find hilarious in Larousse, bulka?
> |
>
A fair question. I was pretty tired at the original post.

I know it is an historical reference, but I've been enjoying just
reading it through. The alphabetic arrangement makes for some odd
juxtapositions, the constant cross-references makes it read like a law
book, the long lists of recipes, each with a fancy name, that differ
only in garnish. It is hard to believe that people ever really ate
this way. The whole thing reads like a fantasy encyclopedia written
by Borges, or some science-fiction description of alien culture.

And then, there are passages like this :

"At the last moment, fill the middle with a ragout composed of lambs'
sweetbreads, cocks' combs and kidneys, truffles and mushrooms, in
Veloute sauce (see SAUCE) flavoured with Madeira-laced Truffle fumet
(see FUMET) ." Good luck shopping at Kroger.

I've always assumed all animals have kidneys, but have never seen one
from a chicken. For as often as "cocks' combs" show up, I'd assumed
it was a fanciful name for a plant, like horseradish or foxglove. No,
they want you to pull something off the head of a rooster.

Maybe my sense of humor is a little off, but this is cracking me up.
And I might accidentally learn something.

OBFood - I thought I was just baking the same old chicken tonight,
but looks like it might be damned close to a la Matignon. Wonder if
it'll taste any better.

Bulka

"CAT. Chat - Domestic cat whose edible meat has a flavour halfway
between that of rabbit and that of hare. . . Legend has it that in the
cook-shops the cat is often used in the making of rabbit fricassees.
Examination of the bones would easily enable one, in case of doubt, to
distinguish between the one animal and the other."

On May 27, 3:41*pm, bulka > wrote:
> > |
> > | > What do you find hilarious in Larousse, bulka?
> > |
>
> A fair question. *I was pretty tired at the original post.
>
> I know it is an historical reference, but I've been enjoying just
> reading it through. *The alphabetic arrangement makes for some odd
> juxtapositions, the constant cross-references makes it read like a law
> book, the long lists of recipes, each with a fancy name, that differ
> only in garnish. *It is hard to believe that people ever really ate
> this way. *The whole thing reads like a fantasy encyclopedia written
> by Borges, or some science-fiction description of alien culture.
>
> And then, there are passages like this :
>
> "At the last moment, fill the middle with a ragout composed of lambs'
> sweetbreads, cocks' combs and kidneys, truffles and mushrooms, in
> Veloute sauce (see SAUCE) flavoured with Madeira-laced Truffle fumet
> (see FUMET) ." * Good luck shopping at Kroger.

Kroger? Isn't that a US supermarket chain?

Correct me if I am wrong but Larousse Gastronomique is a French book
written for the French people. They don't shop at Krogers. They shop
at markets that have an incredible (by American standards) variety of
great foods and food products.

Just go to Kroger and look at their selection of cheeses, and then go
to France and look at THEIRS. Totally different worlds.

> I've always assumed all animals have kidneys, but have never seen one
> from a chicken. *For as often as "cocks' combs" show up, I'd assumed
> it was a fanciful name for a plant, like horseradish or foxglove. *No,
> they want you to pull something off the head of a rooster.

So what? I've had both chicken kidneys (not good) and cock's combs
(very good) at restaurants in Russia. What's the big deal? Every
rooster has kidneys and a comb, so you will have no problem buying
them at markets in France or all over the World. Or you can contact
your local chicken farmer here in USA.

Expecting a mass American supermarket like Kruger to provide a large
variety of good-tasting food is like expecting to see a major
university while visiting a village in Papua-New Guinea. That's why
places like Whole Foods and Trader Joe's have started to spring up as
Americans started to pay attention to the food we eat.

BTW, don't those whole chickens from Foster Farms contain kidneys
among the innards stuffed inside their cavities?

> "CAT. *Chat - Domestic cat whose edible meat has a flavour halfway
> between that of rabbit and that of hare. . . Legend has it that in the
> cook-shops the cat is often used in the making of rabbit fricassees.
> Examination of the bones would easily enable one, in case of doubt, to
> distinguish between the one animal and the other."

OK. This one is funny by modern Western values. Any recipes for horse
meat dishes?

Michel Boucher wrote:
> "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." > wrote in
> :
>
>
>>>Freemasonic twaddle is more like it. Larousse was an
>>>apron-wearer.
>>
>>So what is that supposed to mean? some sort of Gallic envy M.
>>Boucher?
>
>
> Gallic envy? Are you just trying to make conversation with
> platitudes or do you misunderstand what I am saying? Larousse was
> a freemason. I do not envy freemasons, whether they are French,
> English, Chinese, Italian or what have you.
>

I cant see any point to your assertion, envy springs to mind with most
baseless accusations, but even given what you assert about Montagne as
being true, that he was a mason, so what, was Escoffier, Phileas
Gilbert, Prosper Sallles contributions to the Larusse irrelevant?

Prosper Montagne was also a Chevalier of the Legion d'Honneur.

--

Mr. Joseph Paul Littleshoes Esq.

Domine, dirige nos.

Let the games begin!
http://fredeeky.typepad.com/fredeeky.../sf_anthem.mp3

"Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." > wrote in
:

>> Gallic envy? Are you just trying to make conversation with
>> platitudes or do you misunderstand what I am saying?
>> Larousse was a freemason. I do not envy freemasons, whether
>> they are French, English, Chinese, Italian or what have you.
>
> I cant see any point to your assertion, envy springs to mind
> with most baseless accusations,

Assuming, as you do, that it is baseless.

> but even given what you assert
> about Montagne as being true, that he was a mason, so what,

I said nothing about Montagne. I said Larousse was a Freemason.

--

"When a government starts to cancel dissent or avoid dissent
is frankly when it's rapidly losing its moral authority to
govern."

Stephen Harper, 18 April 2005

Janet Baraclough > wrote in
:

> He was a publisher, not a cook, and died more than half a
> century before the Larousse Gastronomique was compiled and
> published so his influence on it was nil.

Are you saying that his successors were not also Freemasons?

--

"When a government starts to cancel dissent or avoid dissent
is frankly when it's rapidly losing its moral authority to
govern."

Stephen Harper, 18 April 2005

On 2010-05-28 07:36:06 -0700, Michel Boucher said:

> Janet Baraclough > wrote in
> :
>
>> He was a publisher, not a cook, and died more than half a
>> century before the Larousse Gastronomique was compiled and
>> published so his influence on it was nil.
>
> Are you saying that his successors were not also Freemasons?

Information that happens to be dispensed by Freemason's is "Freemason
information" is it? That would be like "the liberal media" then? Or
"gotcha journalism"?
--
-- If the founding fathers didn't want our government owned by
corporations, they would have put it in the Constitution!

On 2010-05-28 08:52:36 -0700, Juan Anonly said:

> Information that happens to be dispensed by Freemason's is "Freemason
> information" is it? That would be like "the liberal media" then? Or
> "gotcha journalism"?
>
> -- If the founding fathers didn't want our government owned by
> corporations, they would have put it in the Constitution!

Cute sigfile. I'm a trendsetter!
--
If God didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?

On Fri, 28 May 2010 08:17:48 -0500, Michel Boucher wrote:

> "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." > wrote in
> :
>
>>> Gallic envy? Are you just trying to make conversation with
>>> platitudes or do you misunderstand what I am saying?
>>> Larousse was a freemason. I do not envy freemasons, whether
>>> they are French, English, Chinese, Italian or what have you.
>>
>> I cant see any point to your assertion, envy springs to mind
>> with most baseless accusations,
>
> Assuming, as you do, that it is baseless.
>
>> but even given what you assert
>> about Montagne as being true, that he was a mason, so what,
>
> I said nothing about Montagne. I said Larousse was a Freemason.

so what? at least he wasn't a baptist.

your pal,
blake

Michel Boucher wrote:
> "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." > wrote in
> :
>
>
>>>Gallic envy? Are you just trying to make conversation with
>>>platitudes or do you misunderstand what I am saying?
>>>Larousse was a freemason. I do not envy freemasons, whether
>>>they are French, English, Chinese, Italian or what have you.
>>
>>I cant see any point to your assertion, envy springs to mind
>>with most baseless accusations,
>
>
> Assuming, as you do, that it is baseless.
>
>
>>but even given what you assert
>>about Montagne as being true, that he was a mason, so what,
>
>
> I said nothing about Montagne. I said Larousse was a Freemason.
>

As i wrote, i don't understand your comments, who is this "Larousse" you
speak of? Prosper Montagne was the author, compiler of the "Larousse
Gastronomique" are you then accusing the publishing house of Auge,
Gilion, Hollier-Larousse, Moreau et Cie (Librairie Larousse), Paris, of
being Masons?

If so it seems a long way to go for very little. Pierre Athanase
Larousse is best known as the co-founder, in 1852, of the publishing
house which has produced a wide range of encyclopedias and dictionaries.

Whether or not he had any Masonic affiliations seems irrelevant to the
Larousse Gastronomique which you seem to find so amusingly reprehensible.
--

Mr. Joseph Paul Littleshoes Esq.

Domine, dirige nos.

Let the games begin!
http://fredeeky.typepad.com/fredeeky.../sf_anthem.mp3

Mr. wrote on Fri, 28 May 2010 11:26:30 -0700:


> Michel Boucher wrote:
>> "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." > wrote in
>> :
>>>> Gallic envy? Are you just trying to make conversation with
>>>> platitudes or do you misunderstand what I am saying?
>>>> Larousse was a freemason. I do not envy freemasons,
>>>> whether they are French, English, Chinese, Italian or what have
>>>> you.
>>>
>>> I cant see any point to your assertion, envy springs to mind
>>> with most baseless accusations,
>>
>> Assuming, as you do, that it is baseless.
>>> but even given what you assert
>>> about Montagne as being true, that he was a mason, so what,
>>
>> I said nothing about Montagne. I said Larousse was a
>> Freemason.
>>
> As i wrote, i don't understand your comments, who is this
> "Larousse" you speak of? Prosper Montagne was the author,
> compiler of the "Larousse Gastronomique" are you then accusing
> the publishing house of Auge, Gilion, Hollier-Larousse, Moreau
> et Cie (Librairie Larousse), Paris, of being Masons?

> If so it seems a long way to go for very little. Pierre
> Athanase Larousse is best known as the co-founder, in 1852, of
> the publishing house which has produced a wide range of
> encyclopedias and dictionaries.

> Whether or not he had any Masonic affiliations seems
> irrelevant to the Larousse Gastronomique which you seem to
> find so amusingly reprehensible. --

Who cares whether Larousse Gastronomique was founded by the Masons (a
rather silly activity catering to the male desire to wear funny
costumes)? I have the English edition of 1961 which I still much prefer
to the current one even if it is sometimes a bit out of date.
--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

"Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." > wrote in
:

> Whether or not he had any Masonic affiliations seems
> irrelevant to the Larousse Gastronomique which you seem to
> find so amusingly reprehensible.

I have no quarrel with the Larousse Gastronomique, I was merely
remarking that Larousse was a freemason, which he was. The fact
that I hold freemasons (and other secret societies) in small esteem
merely adds to the humour of the situation, which has obviously
eluded you.

Oh well, maybe it was only funny to me.

--

"When a government starts to cancel dissent or avoid dissent
is frankly when it's rapidly losing its moral authority to
govern."

Stephen Harper, 18 April 2005

On 2010-05-28 09:25:03 -0700, gtr said:

> On 2010-05-28 08:52:36 -0700, Juan Anonly said:
>
>> Information that happens to be dispensed by Freemason's is "Freemason
>> information" is it? That would be like "the liberal media" then? Or
>> "gotcha journalism"?
>>
>> -- If the founding fathers didn't want our government owned by
>> corporations, they would have put it in the Constitution!
>
> Cute sigfile. I'm a trendsetter!

It's true--I tried it out after thinking about yours. Now I've moved
back to the sage wisdom of Sister Sara Palin.
--
-- Beware the delicate, tiny, very talented celebrity starlets.

On Fri, 28 May 2010 15:56:24 -0500, Michel Boucher wrote:

> "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." > wrote in
> :
>
>> Whether or not he had any Masonic affiliations seems
>> irrelevant to the Larousse Gastronomique which you seem to
>> find so amusingly reprehensible.
>
> I have no quarrel with the Larousse Gastronomique, I was merely
> remarking that Larousse was a freemason, which he was. The fact
> that I hold freemasons (and other secret societies) in small esteem
> merely adds to the humour of the situation, which has obviously
> eluded you.
>
> Oh well, maybe it was only funny to me.

it just struck me as odd, because 'concerns' about freemasonry strike me
being about the same as 'concerns' about the bilderburgers, the trilateral
commission, or the u.n. black helicopters - i.e., right-wing nuttery. as i
know you are not in that club, i thought it strange.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:
>
> it just struck me as odd, because 'concerns' about freemasonry strike me
> being about the same as 'concerns' about the bilderburgers, the trilateral
> commission, or the u.n. black helicopters - i.e., right-wing nuttery. as i
> know you are not in that club, i thought it strange.

That's what THEY want you to believe! THEY don't want
you to know about power behind these groups. THEY don't
want you to know about Baphomet!

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0093/0093_01.asp

blake murphy wrote:

> On Fri, 28 May 2010 15:56:24 -0500, Michel Boucher wrote:
>
>> I have no quarrel with the Larousse Gastronomique, I was merely
>> remarking that Larousse was a freemason, which he was. The fact
>> that I hold freemasons (and other secret societies) in small esteem
>> merely adds to the humour of the situation, which has obviously
>> eluded you.
>>
>> Oh well, maybe it was only funny to me.
>
> it just struck me as odd, because 'concerns' about freemasonry strike me
> being about the same as 'concerns' about the bilderburgers, the trilateral
> commission, or the u.n. black helicopters - i.e., right-wing nuttery. as i
> know you are not in that club, i thought it strange.

It's "Bongo Burgers". And they're controlling everything. All
the time.

http://www.bongoburger.com/

If that's not enough, they serve killer falafels.

--
Mort

blake murphy > wrote in
:

> it just struck me as odd, because 'concerns' about freemasonry
> strike me being about the same as 'concerns' about the
> bilderburgers, the trilateral commission, or the u.n. black
> helicopters - i.e., right-wing nuttery. as i know you are not
> in that club, i thought it strange.

Freemasons cross boundaries. Historically, in Canada, freemasons
were (until 1968) the anglophone porotestant elite who worked
hard in conjunction with other brotherhoods like the Orangemen to
keep French-canadians (who were 98% Catholic) out of high
positions within the civil service based solely on prejudice.

My father, who belonged to no secret organisation although he was
often asked to join, was able to implement, during his time as
one of the Commissioners of the Civil Service Commission (later
Public Service Commission), the first stirrings of a system where
merit was the only criterion for promotion, not membership in an
old boys' (unaccountable) club. Merit became standard policy for
the civil service in 1968 when Pierre-Elliot Trudeau finally
brought down the boom on such endeavours and freemasons,
foresters, orangemen were told their adherence would no longer
ensure employment within the government of Canada.

--

"When a government starts to cancel dissent or avoid dissent
is frankly when it's rapidly losing its moral authority to
govern."

Stephen Harper, 18 April 2005

Mark Thorson > wrote in news:4C015103.12DC01A8
@sonic.net:

> http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0093/0093_01.asp

Fah-bulous! It reminds me of that sketch against venereal disease
in Love and Death ;-)

Couldn't find it, but here is another funny one from the same
movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woEP6TMmXNA

--

"When a government starts to cancel dissent or avoid dissent
is frankly when it's rapidly losing its moral authority to
govern."

Stephen Harper, 18 April 2005

blake murphy > wrote:

> it just struck me as odd, because 'concerns' about freemasonry
> strike me being about the same as 'concerns' about the
> bilderburgers, the trilateral commission, or the u.n. black
> helicopters - i.e., right-wing nuttery. as i know you are not
> in that club, i thought it strange.

Masons participated in the Italian War of Unification. I am
not sure if they have done anything notable since, but it
would not particularly surprise me.


Steve

(Steve Pope) wrote in news:htrp58$efi$3
@blue.rahul.net:

> Masons participated in the Italian War of Unification. I am
> not sure if they have done anything notable since, but it
> would not particularly surprise me.

They wouldn't tell you if they did and if they told you, they'd
have to bury you under a mound of questionable literature.

--

"When a government starts to cancel dissent or avoid dissent
is frankly when it's rapidly losing its moral authority to
govern."

Stephen Harper, 18 April 2005

On Sat, 29 May 2010 10:38:11 -0700, Mark Thorson wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>>
>> it just struck me as odd, because 'concerns' about freemasonry strike me
>> being about the same as 'concerns' about the bilderburgers, the trilateral
>> commission, or the u.n. black helicopters - i.e., right-wing nuttery. as i
>> know you are not in that club, i thought it strange.
>
> That's what THEY want you to believe! THEY don't want
> you to know about power behind these groups. THEY don't
> want you to know about Baphomet!
>
> http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0093/0093_01.asp

jeez! that does it, i'm ditching the masons and joining the loyal order of
raccoons:

<http://www.tvacres.com/images/raccoons1.jpg>

your pal,
blake