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Ranée at Arabian Knits wrote:
The problem with that is that multivitamins, or singular vitamins
aren't absorbed as well as vitamins found in food. There is also the
problem of how vitamins and minerals work together, which nobody knows
completely about, and how to get those combinations to work properly in
a pill. It's better to get vitamins and minerals from food.


Although I do take vitamins, there are phytonutrients in foods, that we
are not even aware of, yet, at least this is what my doctor told me.
You have to eat a variety of vegetables, fruits, beans and whole grains
to make sure you are covered.


Becca

Indeed! But the value of GOOD vitamin supplements should not be
underestimated. :-)

I do understand tho' that vitamins are NOT a substitute for a good diet.
They just are very helpful.
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On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:19:53 -0600, Becca wrote:

there are phytonutrients in foods, that we
are not even aware of, yet, at least this is what my doctor told me.

Be careful. I have to look up big words like phytonutrients.

sf impressed

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sf wrote:
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:19:53 -0600, Becca wrote:

there are phytonutrients in foods, that we
are not even aware of, yet, at least this is what my doctor told me.

Be careful. I have to look up big words like phytonutrients.

sf impressed

The stuff she knows is simply amazing. She can hold her own in almost
any conversation on damn near any subject.

But today she isn't feeling well so I made her soup for lunch and I did
a big pot of spaghetti sauce for supper and she is sitting in the
living room wrapped in a blanket watching TV and hopefully napping.
When she gets sick, ***I*** am the Boss around here... and she'll get
some rest and take her meds whether she likes it or not.

George L

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George Shirley wrote:

Omelet wrote:
In article , Becca
wrote:

Omelet wrote:
People in America have an unrealistic idea of proportions and the
amounts of food they eat. That is why there is an epidemic of obesity...

Americans do have a problem with obesity. Also, Stu's body requires
more calories than ours. A man can eat 2200 calories per day while we
may eat 1600. Your nephews, within a two year time period, will double
their caloric intake. In a few years, they will eat your refrigerator
bare, so be prepared. :-P When my oldest son turned 12, we were
having lunch, he ate his tuna salad sandwich then he asked if I was
going to eat the other half of mine. That is when I knew he had reached
puberty.


Becca

laughs I've heard that! Men do have Testosterone on their side. It's
so unfair!

Until they get old and then they have to take pills for it. G

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,
Ranée at Arabian Knits wrote:

There is also the
problem of how vitamins and minerals work together, which nobody knows
completely about, and how to get those combinations to work properly in
a pill. It's better to get vitamins and minerals from food.

I agree up to a point (as per my previous post). Vitamin supplements
should always be taken with a meal! That really does make a difference.

I see you've done your homework. g

Yes. :-) We predominately use multivitamins when I am pregnant or
when we are getting sick. I also keep some in our emergency stash,
because I figure it is better to have them to supplement when we don't
know what foods will be available to us. Mostly, though, we try to eat
lots of vegetables, fruits, meats, fish, dairy, eggs, whole grains, etc,

Regards,
Ranee

Variety is the spark of life... And it's more fun too!
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George Leppla wrote:

sf wrote:
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:19:53 -0600, Becca wrote:

there are phytonutrients in foods, that we
are not even aware of, yet, at least this is what my doctor told me.

Be careful. I have to look up big words like phytonutrients.

sf impressed

The stuff she knows is simply amazing. She can hold her own in almost
any conversation on damn near any subject.

But today she isn't feeling well so I made her soup for lunch and I did
a big pot of spaghetti sauce for supper and she is sitting in the
living room wrapped in a blanket watching TV and hopefully napping.
When she gets sick, ***I*** am the Boss around here... and she'll get
some rest and take her meds whether she likes it or not.

George L

Oh dear! Give her a sympathetic hug for me please? I hope she gets
better quickly!
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Omelet wrote:

(Steve Pope) wrote:

Omelet wrote:

People in America have an unrealistic idea of proportions and the
amounts of food they eat. That is why there is an epidemic of obesity...

You mean like north Americans eat an average of 4,500 calories
per day per person, and think that's perfectly okay? AND
complain about immigrants coming in to use our resourses?

Unemployment is 15%, household income down 30% but caloric input remains
at its historical all-time high. So much for fat = rich. More
like fat = hopelessly in hock to the international capital markets...

Just wait and we'll see what happens.

Will the results be a surprise?

Nope. There will be no more than a token pullback on energy
use, and the planet will continue to suffer the effects of
uncontrolled human overconsumption. Whether this means radical
climate change or not, is unclear, but whatever it is, it will be
radical and destructive beyond what we've yet witnessed.

I support locavores and others who are conscious of their
food resource use but I don't hold out much hope they can
turn the tide.

My personal MAINTENANCE calorie intake is 1,200 to 1,500 kc per day. If
I eat more than that, I gain weight. But, I also have hypothyroidism.
If I want to lose weight, I have to cut to below 1,000 and it's not that
hard to do once you change your attitude towards food. It's been an
ongoing learning process.

Interesting. I have just learend a friend has hypothyroidism;
I had noticed his low food intake and he reported a low pulse
rate, but I didn't make the connection.

Steve

On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:27:18 -0600, George Leppla
wrote:

But today she isn't feeling well so I made her soup for lunch and I did
a big pot of spaghetti sauce for supper and she is sitting in the
living room wrapped in a blanket watching TV and hopefully napping.
When she gets sick, ***I*** am the Boss around here... and she'll get
some rest and take her meds whether she likes it or not.

Awww! That's what's nice about having a man around the house that can
cook. As my dad used to say during his years as a Hawaiian, "give her
a pat on the popo" for me.

Just wait until she gets better. You'll be like GWB and say: "I'm not
the decider anymore".

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

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(Steve Pope) wrote:

My personal MAINTENANCE calorie intake is 1,200 to 1,500 kc per day. If
I eat more than that, I gain weight. But, I also have hypothyroidism.
If I want to lose weight, I have to cut to below 1,000 and it's not that
hard to do once you change your attitude towards food. It's been an
ongoing learning process.

Interesting. I have just learend a friend has hypothyroidism;
I had noticed his low food intake and he reported a low pulse
rate, but I didn't make the connection.

Steve

It's not an easy thing to live with, even when drug treated as that does
not always work well.

As for the rest of your post, the planet will always survive... even if
the human race does not.
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Omelet wrote:

As for the rest of your post, the planet will always survive... even if
the human race does not.

Certainly. I admit up-front that my preference for
causing as little human damage to the planet as possible
is fundamentally an aesthetic need on my part, albeit a very
strong one, and one I feel okay about imposing on the rest
of everybody via our governmental institutions.

But eventually, an impact event will occur that liquefies the
crust of the earth and kills everything but a few extremophiles.
Apparently this is no more than 8 million years off, when
a hypervelocity star is predicted to pass through the
Oort cloud, sending hundreds of thousands of impactors into
the inner solar system. But it would be nice to maintain
a reasonable, stable environment without excessive species
death or human suffering until that point, wouldn't it?


Steve

On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:39:00 +0000 (UTC), (Steve
Pope) wrote:

Nope. There will be no more than a token pullback on energy
use, and the planet will continue to suffer the effects of
uncontrolled human overconsumption. Whether this means radical
climate change or not, is unclear, but whatever it is, it will be
radical and destructive beyond what we've yet witnessed.

There will never be anything other than over consumption until we get
the population growth rate under control. Italy seems to be in the
negative numbers with reproduction, and educated populations are at
least reproducing 1:1 for the most part... but the rest of the world -
OY!

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:54:37 +0000 (UTC), (Steve
Pope) wrote:

But eventually, an impact event will occur that liquefies the
crust of the earth and kills everything but a few extremophiles.
Apparently this is no more than 8 million years off,

The human race will be long gone before that happens.

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

sf wrote:

On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:54:37 +0000 (UTC), (Steve

But eventually, an impact event will occur that liquefies the
crust of the earth and kills everything but a few extremophiles.
Apparently this is no more than 8 million years off,

The human race will be long gone before that happens.

Yes, if the human race continues to behave as it is now behaving.

But we could, with the right policies, survive up until that point.
It's physically possible. It's a matter of whether we have the
will to do it.

Steve

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(Steve Pope) wrote:

But eventually, an impact event will occur that liquefies the
crust of the earth and kills everything but a few extremophiles.
Apparently this is no more than 8 million years off, when
a hypervelocity star is predicted to pass through the
Oort cloud, sending hundreds of thousands of impactors into
the inner solar system. But it would be nice to maintain
a reasonable, stable environment without excessive species
death or human suffering until that point, wouldn't it?


Steve

That would be nice, but world wide cataclysmic events seem to be a
standard theme on this hunk of rock. Just think what would happen if
Yellowstone Park (a known super-volcano) were to erupt?
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In article ,
sf wrote:

On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:39:00 +0000 (UTC), (Steve
Pope) wrote:

Nope. There will be no more than a token pullback on energy
use, and the planet will continue to suffer the effects of
uncontrolled human overconsumption. Whether this means radical
climate change or not, is unclear, but whatever it is, it will be
radical and destructive beyond what we've yet witnessed.

There will never be anything other than over consumption until we get
the population growth rate under control. Italy seems to be in the
negative numbers with reproduction, and educated populations are at
least reproducing 1:1 for the most part... but the rest of the world -
OY!

This is so very true...
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