Loving God, Help us remember the birth of Jesus,
that we may share in the song of the angels,
the gladness of the shepherds,
and worship of the wise men.

Close the door of hate
and open the door of love all over the world.
Let kindness come with every gift and good desires with every greeting.
Deliver us from evil by the blessing which Christ brings,
and teach us to be merry with clear hearts.

May the Christmas morning make us happy to be thy children,
and Christmas evening bring us to our beds with grateful thoughts,
forgiving and forgiven, for Jesus' sake.

Amen.

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 20:12:43 GMT, Claire Towny
> wrote:

> Amen.

Idiot.

Claire Towny wrote:
> Loving God, Help us remember the birth of Jesus,
> that we may share in the song of the angels,
> the gladness of the shepherds,
> and worship of the wise men.
>
> Close the door of hate
> and open the door of love all over the world.
> Let kindness come with every gift and good desires with every greeting.
> Deliver us from evil by the blessing which Christ brings,
> and teach us to be merry with clear hearts.
>
> May the Christmas morning make us happy to be thy children,
> and Christmas evening bring us to our beds with grateful thoughts,
> forgiving and forgiven, for Jesus' sake.
>
> Amen.

But that's not what Christmas is all about, Charlie Brown!


http://biblestudies.suite101.com/art...istian_holiday

http://www.bib-arch.org/e-features/christmas.asp


There now! HO HO HO!! Have a Merry Christmas with your near and dear,
and forget all that sanctimonious and unfounded nativity stuff for a while.

Merry Christmas, everyone!!

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Claire Towny
> saying something like:

>Loving God,

Keep it to yourself, if you don't mind.

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 20:49:14 +0000, John Rumm
> wrote:

>Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>> Idiot.
>
>Charmless oik!

No dumbass. The oik is the moron who cross posted fairy tails into a
cooking group. According to the definition I see rude, unacceptable,
and low class are part of the definition of your silly brit word. She
fits all of them plus several more. I find someone shoving their
beliefs at me in a non related newsgroup as low as a desperate scumbag
can go. Do you idiots really think it's going to matter when you're
worm food?

>Happy Christmas to the rest of you!

Whatever.

Lou

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 16:10:35 -0600, Lou Decruss
> wrote:

>On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 20:49:14 +0000, John Rumm
> wrote:
>
>>Lou Decruss wrote:
>>
>>> Idiot.
>>
>>Charmless oik!
>
>No dumbass. The oik is the moron who cross posted fairy tails into a
>cooking group. According to the definition I see rude, unacceptable,
>and low class are part of the definition of your silly brit word. She
>fits all of them plus several more. I find someone shoving their
>beliefs at me in a non related newsgroup as low as a desperate scumbag
>can go. Do you idiots really think it's going to matter when you're
>worm food?
>
>>Happy Christmas to the rest of you!
>
>Whatever.
>
>Lou

Happy Kwanzaa, muthafukka.

Lou Decruss wrote:
>
> No dumbass. The oik is the moron who cross posted fairy tails into a
> cooking group.

<cough> Cooking? Oh yes, there is one on the list...

Andy

Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember Claire Towny
> > saying something like:
>
>> Loving God,
>
> Keep it to yourself, if you don't mind.

Doncha just hate these Christians stealing the winter solstice?


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

"The Medway Handyman" > wrote in message
om...
> Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
>> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>> drugs began to take hold. I remember Claire Towny
>> > saying something like:
>>
>>> Loving God,
>>
>> Keep it to yourself, if you don't mind.
>
> Doncha just hate these Christians stealing the winter solstice?

I think I would be able to take you more seriously if you hadn't posted your
'Happy Winter Solstice' greetings exactly 3 days late!

Happy Christmas

PS -Sang the hymn/carol "God's surprise" for the first time this year, I was
quite taken by the 3rd verse. I'm sure not everyone will agree with the last
2 lines, but there is plenty to think about in lines 1-6.

Centuries of skill and science
Span the past from which we move,
Yet experience questions whether
With such progress we improve.
While the human lot we ponder,
Lest our hopes and humour fray,
God surprises earth with heaven,
Coming here on Christmas Day.

Good cheer all!

In message >, Lou Decruss
> writes
>On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 20:49:14 +0000, John Rumm
> wrote:
>
>>Lou Decruss wrote:
>>
>>> Idiot.
>>
>>Charmless oik!
>
>No dumbass. The oik is the moron who cross posted fairy tails into a
>cooking group. According to the definition I see rude, unacceptable,
>and low class are part of the definition of your silly brit word. She
>fits all of them plus several more. I find someone shoving their
>beliefs at me in a non related newsgroup as low as a desperate scumbag
>can go. Do you idiots really think it's going to matter when you're
>worm food?
>
Have to agree with the septic here

Lou - go and find me a recipe for xmas goose please


--
geoff

In message >, The Medway
Handyman > writes
>Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
>> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>> drugs began to take hold. I remember Claire Towny
>> > saying something like:
>>
>>> Loving God,
>>
>> Keep it to yourself, if you don't mind.
>
>Doncha just hate these Christians stealing the winter solstice?
>
>
Yes, very annoying

although the solstice has passed

"Luke I'm not paying you so much this week"

"Why?"

"Because yesterday was the shortest day"

"err Wha ? ... c'mon"

Took him several minutes to work it out - over-worked his brain cell
there


--
geoff

On Dec 24, 2:12*pm, Claire Towny > wrote:
> Loving God, Help us remember the birth of Jesus,
> that we may share in the song of the angels,
> the gladness of the shepherds,
> and worship of the wise men.
>
> Close the door of hate
> and open the door of love all over the world.
> Let kindness come with every gift and good desires with every greeting.
> Deliver us from evil by the blessing which Christ brings,
> and teach us to be merry with clear hearts.
>
> May the Christmas morning make us happy to be thy children,
> and Christmas evening bring us to our beds with grateful thoughts,
> forgiving and forgiven, for Jesus' sake.
>
> *Amen.

Now THIS . . . I do object.

Stuff it, Claire
Lynn in Fargo

On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 01:20:36 +0000, geoff > wrote:


>Lou - go and find me a recipe for xmas goose please

Bend over and Lou will give you a nice goose.

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:54:33 -0800 (PST), Lynn from Fargo
> wrote:

>On Dec 24, 2:12*pm, Claire Towny > wrote:
>> Loving God, Help us remember the birth of Jesus,
>> that we may share in the song of the angels,
>> the gladness of the shepherds,
>> and worship of the wise men.
>>
>> Close the door of hate
>> and open the door of love all over the world.
>> Let kindness come with every gift and good desires with every greeting.
>> Deliver us from evil by the blessing which Christ brings,
>> and teach us to be merry with clear hearts.
>>
>> May the Christmas morning make us happy to be thy children,
>> and Christmas evening bring us to our beds with grateful thoughts,
>> forgiving and forgiven, for Jesus' sake.
>>
>> *Amen.
>
>Now THIS . . . I do object.


Why exactly do you object? Do you 'object' to anybody that doesn't
have your exact philosophy?

'Object' doesn't mean the same as 'Disagree', you know.

--
Frank Erskine

In message >, ObaMao
> writes
>On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 01:20:36 +0000, geoff > wrote:
>
>
>>Lou - go and find me a recipe for xmas goose please
>
>Bend over and Lou will give you a nice goose.

Believe me

I have impermeable keks on

If you're a septic - go google it

--
geoff

In article >,
says...
>
> Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
> > We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> > drugs began to take hold. I remember Claire Towny
> > > saying something like:
> >
> >> Loving God,
> >
> > Keep it to yourself, if you don't mind.
>
> Doncha just hate these Christians stealing the winter solstice?

Or stealing Saturnalia and Yule too. You can't even be a good Roman or
Pagan anymore without Christians jumping up and down about it.

Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 20:49:14 +0000, John Rumm
> > wrote:
>
>> Lou Decruss wrote:
>>
>>> Idiot.
>> Charmless oik!
>
> No dumbass. The oik is the moron who cross posted fairy tails

Do fairies have tails?

On Dec 24, 4:10*pm, Lou Decruss > wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 20:49:14 +0000, John Rumm
>
> > wrote:
> >Lou Decruss wrote:
>
> >> Idiot.
>
> >Charmless oik!
>
> No dumbass. *The oik is the moron who cross posted fairy tails into a
> cooking group. *According to the definition I see rude, unacceptable,
> and low class are part of the definition of your silly brit word. *She
> fits all of them plus several more. *I find someone shoving their
> beliefs at me in a non related newsgroup as low as a desperate scumbag
> can go. *Do you idiots really think it's going to matter when you're
> worm food?
>
> >Happy Christmas to the rest of you!
>
> Whatever. *

We Atheists should have at least some humility, and acknowledge that
our belief regimen has been responsible for more wholesale murder than
any other.
Goodnight all.
>
> Lou

--Bryan

On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 00:02:02 GMT, The Medway Handyman wrote:

> Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
>> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>> drugs began to take hold. I remember Claire Towny
>> > saying something like:
>>
>>> Loving God,
>>
>> Keep it to yourself, if you don't mind.
>
> Doncha just hate these Christians stealing the winter solstice?

It's only recently, though - perhaps they'll go away again soon.
--
Peter.
2x4 - thick plank; 4x4 - two of 'em.

In message >, Magda
> writes
>On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 03:03:57 +0000, in alt.free.newsservers, geoff
>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ... In message >, ObaMao
> ... > writes
> ... >On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 01:20:36 +0000, geoff > wrote:
> ... >
> ... >
> ... >>Lou - go and find me a recipe for xmas goose please
> ... >
> ... >Bend over and Lou will give you a nice goose.
> ...
> ... Believe me
> ...
> ... I have impermeable keks on
> ...
> ... If you're a septic - go google it
>
>Septic tank?
>
= yank
--
geoff

On 12/24/2009 17:09, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember Claire Towny
> > saying something like:
>
>> Loving God,
>
> Keep it to yourself, if you don't mind.


Is your belief system so weak that you think the mere words of others
must be suppressed?

On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 11:38:03 -0500, George >
wrote:

>On 12/24/2009 17:09, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
>> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>> drugs began to take hold. I remember Claire Towny
>> > saying something like:
>>
>>> Loving God,
>>
>> Keep it to yourself, if you don't mind.
>
>
>Is your belief system so weak that you think the mere words of others
>must be suppressed?

In a case where none of the groups posted to have anything to do with
religion I'd say yes. Wishing someone a happy holiday is one thing.
Posting a prayer is another.

Lou

On 12/25/2009 12:34, Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 11:38:03 -0500, >
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/24/2009 17:09, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
>>> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>>> drugs began to take hold. I remember Claire Towny
>>> > saying something like:
>>>
>>>> Loving God,
>>>
>>> Keep it to yourself, if you don't mind.
>>
>>
>> Is your belief system so weak that you think the mere words of others
>> must be suppressed?
>
> In a case where none of the groups posted to have anything to do with
> religion I'd say yes. Wishing someone a happy holiday is one thing.
> Posting a prayer is another.
>
> Lou

The suggestion was that the poster should "keep it to themselves"...
Which is in step with the PC thinking that if your belief system is weak
you need to go around telling everyone that almost everything offends
you and must not be mentioned or displayed.

On Dec 25, 12:25*pm, George > wrote:
> On 12/25/2009 12:34, Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 11:38:03 -0500, >
> > wrote:
>
> >> On 12/24/2009 17:09, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
> >>> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> >>> drugs began to take hold. I remember Claire Towny
> >>> > * saying something like:
>
> >>>> Loving God,
>
> >>> Keep it to yourself, if you don't mind.
>
> >> Is your belief system so weak that you think the mere words of others
> >> must be suppressed?
>
> > In a case where none of the groups posted to have anything to do with
> > religion I'd say yes. *Wishing someone a happy holiday is one thing.
> > Posting a prayer is another.
>
> > Lou
>
> The suggestion was that the poster should "keep it to themselves"...
> Which is in step with the PC thinking that if your belief system is weak
> you need to go around telling everyone that almost everything offends
> you and must not be mentioned or displayed.

If the OP had been one of the regulars here who happens to be
Christian, there would have been no problem.

--Bryan

"Claire Towny" > wrote in message
...
> Loving God, Help us remember the birth of Jesus,
> that we may share in the song of the angels,
> the gladness of the shepherds,
> and worship of the wise men.
>
> Close the door of hate
> and open the door of love all over the world.
> Let kindness come with every gift and good desires with every greeting.
> Deliver us from evil by the blessing which Christ brings,
> and teach us to be merry with clear hearts.
>
> May the Christmas morning make us happy to be thy children,
> and Christmas evening bring us to our beds with grateful thoughts,
> forgiving and forgiven, for Jesus' sake.
>
> Amen.

Please, please, please, not again, there is/was no damned Jesus, just an
illegitimate child born of a frustrated woman whose husband was so old he
couldn't get it up so she went to the local gardener for comfort!

And so her husband wouldn't know she was playing away, she convinced him
that it was a virgin birth, and like a mug he believed her, the fool, just
like all the others!


>
>

--Bryan wrote:

> If the OP had been one of the regulars here who happens to be
> Christian, there would have been no problem.
>
> --Bryan

Indeed. And anyway, we shouldn't juts be buying into a religion like
going to B&Q, out with the angel grinder and lest MAKE one, if its needful.

In message
>,
--Bryan > writes
>On Dec 25, 12:25*pm, George > wrote:
>> On 12/25/2009 12:34, Lou Decruss wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 11:38:03 -0500, >
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >> On 12/24/2009 17:09, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
>> >>> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>> >>> drugs began to take hold. I remember Claire Towny
>> >>> > * saying something like:
>>
>> >>>> Loving God,
>>
>> >>> Keep it to yourself, if you don't mind.
>>
>> >> Is your belief system so weak that you think the mere words of others
>> >> must be suppressed?
>>
>> > In a case where none of the groups posted to have anything to do with
>> > religion I'd say yes. *Wishing someone a happy holiday is one thing.
>> > Posting a prayer is another.
>>
>> > Lou
>>
>> The suggestion was that the poster should "keep it to themselves"...
>> Which is in step with the PC thinking that if your belief system is weak
>> you need to go around telling everyone that almost everything offends
>> you and must not be mentioned or displayed.
>
>If the OP had been one of the regulars here who happens to be
>Christian, there would have been no problem.
>
UK.d-i-y gets regular Islamic spam which doesn't go down well

I don't see why we should treat Xtian spam any differently


--
geoff

On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:10:18 -0000, "alan.holmes" >
wrote:


>Please, please, please, not again, there is/was no damned Jesus, just an
>illegitimate child born of a frustrated woman whose husband was so old he
>couldn't get it up so she went to the local gardener for comfort!
>
>And so her husband wouldn't know she was playing away, she convinced him
>that it was a virgin birth, and like a mug he believed her, the fool, just
>like all the others!
>

Let's just hope for your sake shall we, that your chosen conviction is the
correct one ! ;-)

Andy C

"Andy Cap" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:10:18 -0000, "alan.holmes"
> >
> wrote:
>
>
>>Please, please, please, not again, there is/was no damned Jesus, just an
>>illegitimate child born of a frustrated woman whose husband was so old he
>>couldn't get it up so she went to the local gardener for comfort!
>>
>>And so her husband wouldn't know she was playing away, she convinced him
>>that it was a virgin birth, and like a mug he believed her, the fool, just
>>like all the others!
>>
>
> Let's just hope for your sake shall we, that your chosen conviction is the
> correct one ! ;-)
>
> Andy C

Strikes me that if he suffers by his chosen conviction then the OP's god is
verily a vindictive one.

Peter

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember George >
saying something like:

>>> Loving God,
>>
>> Keep it to yourself, if you don't mind.
>
>
>Is your belief system so weak that you think the mere words of others
>must be suppressed?

I'll say this once.

**** off.

"George" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/25/2009 12:34, Lou Decruss wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 11:38:03 -0500, >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/24/2009 17:09, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
>>>> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>>>> drugs began to take hold. I remember Claire Towny
>>>> > saying something like:
>>>>
>>>>> Loving God,
>>>>
>>>> Keep it to yourself, if you don't mind.
>>>
>>>
>>> Is your belief system so weak that you think the mere words of others
>>> must be suppressed?
>>
>> In a case where none of the groups posted to have anything to do with
>> religion I'd say yes. Wishing someone a happy holiday is one thing.
>> Posting a prayer is another.
>>
>> Lou
>
> The suggestion was that the poster should "keep it to themselves"... Which
> is in step with the PC thinking that if your belief system is weak you
> need to go around telling everyone that almost everything offends you and
> must not be mentioned or displayed.

When it has no relationship to either food or diy, then yes!

Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
>
> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember George >
> saying something like:
>
> >>> Loving God,
> >>
> >> Keep it to yourself, if you don't mind.
> >
> >
> >Is your belief system so weak that you think the mere words of others
> >must be suppressed?
>
> I'll say this once.
>
> **** off.

**** off yerself, ****face.

"Claire Towny" > wrote in message
...
> Loving God, Help us remember the birth of Jesus,
> that we may share in the song of the angels,
> the gladness of the shepherds,
> and worship of the wise men.
>
> Close the door of hate
> and open the door of love all over the world.
> Let kindness come with every gift and good desires with every greeting.
> Deliver us from evil by the blessing which Christ brings,
> and teach us to be merry with clear hearts.
>
> May the Christmas morning make us happy to be thy children,
> and Christmas evening bring us to our beds with grateful thoughts,
> forgiving and forgiven, for Jesus' sake.
>
> Amen.
>
>
If all and sundry who have a problem with this just either killfiled the
poster or ignored the post, there wouldn't be a problem now, would there?
You know from past postings, that this person will be wishing you a merry
CHRISTmas and praying for you immortal souls.

Whether you believe or not in the Virgin birth of Jesus or even in Jesus
Himself is no reason to vilify this person who does. And if the mere
mention of His Name sends you into such a tizzy.....why are you celebrating
the holiday anyway? I understand if you are Jewish and celebrate Hannukah,
another type of relgious celebration, but to claim to be an atheist and rant
that anyone who believes in ANYTHING should not be tolerated, why are you
wasting your energy on fighting Christmas? It shouldn't exist, per your
reasoning, so ignore the sentiments, ignore the lights, go to work, don't
take the bonus, and eat a bologna sandwich in the company of the anger you
spew to someone who actually has a belief system in place.

> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:10:18 -0000, "alan.holmes" wrote:
>
>
>
>>Please, please, please, not again, there is/was no Jesus,




Ever read Amiri Baraka's "Hard Facts."


"In the poem ÒWhen WeÕll Worship JesusÓ (from Hard Facts), Baraka
attacks capitalist AmericaÕs tradition of Christianity. The religion
with which the ÒbeastsÓ of Africa had been domesticated into slaves
who would endure their suffering as a race (using the suffering of
Jesus as a model) for the existential good of their souls. Baraka
takes the proverbial quote by Karl Marx that ÒReligionÉis the opium of
the people,Ó and puts it in historical context for African-Americans:

we aint gonna worship jesus cause jesus dont exist
xcept in song and story except in ritual and dance, except in slum stained
tears or trillion dollar opulence stretching back in historyÉ..
stop moanin about jesus, stop sweatin and crying and stompin
and dyin for jesus (Baraka Reader, 253-254).

Baraka goes beyond criticizing Christianity and its role in the
oppression of African-Americans. He goes on to offer a new religion to
African-Americans based on them and their past as well as their
struggles and beauty:

we worship the strength in us
we worship our selves
we worship the light in us
we worship the warmth in us
we worship the world
we worship the love in us
we worship our selves
we worship nature
we worship ourselves
we worship the life in us, and science, and knowledge, and transformation
of the visible world (Ibid)."
--
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.

Domine, dirige nos.
Let the games begin!
http://fredeeky.typepad.com/fredeeky.../sf_anthem.mp3

On 26 Dec, 17:48, "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." >
wrote:
> > On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:10:18 -0000, "alan.holmes" wrote:
>
> >>Please, please, please, not again, there is/was no Jesus,
>
> Ever read Amiri Baraka's "Hard Facts."
>
> * *"In the poem ÒWhen WeÕll Worship JesusÓ (from Hard Facts), Baraka
> attacks capitalist AmericaÕs tradition of Christianity. The religion
> with which the ÒbeastsÓ of Africa had been domesticated into slaves
> who would endure their suffering as a race (using the suffering of
> Jesus as a model) for the existential good of their souls. Baraka
> takes the proverbial quote by Karl Marx that ÒReligionÉis the opium of
> the people,Ó and puts it in historical context for African-Americans:
>
> we aint gonna worship jesus cause jesus dont exist
> xcept in song and story except in ritual and dance, except in slum stained
> tears or trillion dollar opulence stretching back in historyÉ..
> stop moanin about jesus, stop sweatin and crying and stompin
> and dyin for jesus (Baraka Reader, 253-254).
>
> Baraka goes beyond criticizing Christianity and its role in the
> oppression of African-Americans. He goes on to offer a new religion to
> African-Americans based on them and their past as well as their
> struggles and beauty:
>
> we worship the strength in us
> we worship our selves
> we worship the light in us
> we worship the warmth in us
> we worship the world
> we worship the love in us
> we worship our selves
> we worship nature
> we worship ourselves
> we worship the life in us, and science, and knowledge, and transformation
> of the visible world (Ibid)."
> --
> Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
>
> Domine, dirige nos.
> Let the games begin!http://fredeeky.typepad.com/fredeeky.../sf_anthem.mp3

Fairy Tails? Cookery?? Are Fairy Tails edible, then? Like, maybe,
lobster tails, only fairier?
Oh well, that's my New Years Resolution settled! I'm definitely
going to eat a lot more fairy tails in 2010!
Dave

In message >, Virginia
Tadrzynski > writes
>
>"Claire Towny" > wrote in message
...
>> Loving God, Help us remember the birth of Jesus,
>> that we may share in the song of the angels,
>> the gladness of the shepherds,
>> and worship of the wise men.
>>
>> Close the door of hate
>> and open the door of love all over the world.
>> Let kindness come with every gift and good desires with every greeting.
>> Deliver us from evil by the blessing which Christ brings,
>> and teach us to be merry with clear hearts.
>>
>> May the Christmas morning make us happy to be thy children,
>> and Christmas evening bring us to our beds with grateful thoughts,
>> forgiving and forgiven, for Jesus' sake.
>>
>> Amen.
>>
>>
>If all and sundry who have a problem with this just either killfiled the
>poster or ignored the post, there wouldn't be a problem now, would there?
>You know from past postings, that this person will be wishing you a merry
>CHRISTmas and praying for you immortal souls.
>
It is not welcome in uk.d-i-y

Now could anyone making further follow ups in this thread remove
uk.d-i-y to your x-posting list


--
geoff

Mo wrote:
> Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

>> I'll say this once.
>>
>> **** off.
>
> **** off yerself, ****face.

Wow, "May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits" doesn't
even have the same ring to it nowadays ...

--
Adrian C

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Virginia Tadrzynski"
> saying something like:

>
>"Claire Towny" > wrote in message
...
>> Loving God, Help us remember the birth of Jesus,
>> that we may share in the song of the angels,
>> the gladness of the shepherds,
>> and worship of the wise men.
>>
>> Close the door of hate
>> and open the door of love all over the world.
>> Let kindness come with every gift and good desires with every greeting.
>> Deliver us from evil by the blessing which Christ brings,
>> and teach us to be merry with clear hearts.
>>
>> May the Christmas morning make us happy to be thy children,
>> and Christmas evening bring us to our beds with grateful thoughts,
>> forgiving and forgiven, for Jesus' sake.
>>
>> Amen.
>>
>>
>If all and sundry who have a problem with this just either killfiled the
>poster or ignored the post, there wouldn't be a problem now, would there?
>You know from past postings, that this person will be wishing you a merry
>CHRISTmas and praying for you immortal souls.
>
>Whether you believe or not in the Virgin birth of Jesus or even in Jesus
>Himself is no reason to vilify this person who does. And if the mere
>mention of His Name sends you into such a tizzy.....why are you celebrating
>the holiday anyway? I understand if you are Jewish and celebrate Hannukah,
>another type of relgious celebration, but to claim to be an atheist and rant
>that anyone who believes in ANYTHING should not be tolerated, why are you
>wasting your energy on fighting Christmas? It shouldn't exist, per your
>reasoning, so ignore the sentiments, ignore the lights, go to work, don't
>take the bonus, and eat a bologna sandwich in the company of the anger you
>spew to someone who actually has a belief system in place.
>
http://www.evilmilk.com/pictures/Innocent.htm

On 12/26/2009 12:41, Virginia Tadrzynski wrote:
> "Claire > wrote in message
> ...
>> Loving God, Help us remember the birth of Jesus,
>> that we may share in the song of the angels,
>> the gladness of the shepherds,
>> and worship of the wise men.
>>
>> Close the door of hate
>> and open the door of love all over the world.
>> Let kindness come with every gift and good desires with every greeting.
>> Deliver us from evil by the blessing which Christ brings,
>> and teach us to be merry with clear hearts.
>>
>> May the Christmas morning make us happy to be thy children,
>> and Christmas evening bring us to our beds with grateful thoughts,
>> forgiving and forgiven, for Jesus' sake.
>>
>> Amen.
>>
>>
> If all and sundry who have a problem with this just either killfiled the
> poster or ignored the post, there wouldn't be a problem now, would there?
> You know from past postings, that this person will be wishing you a merry
> CHRISTmas and praying for you immortal souls.
>
> Whether you believe or not in the Virgin birth of Jesus or even in Jesus
> Himself is no reason to vilify this person who does. And if the mere
> mention of His Name sends you into such a tizzy.....why are you celebrating
> the holiday anyway? I understand if you are Jewish and celebrate Hannukah,
> another type of relgious celebration, but to claim to be an atheist and rant
> that anyone who believes in ANYTHING should not be tolerated, why are you
> wasting your energy on fighting Christmas? It shouldn't exist, per your
> reasoning, so ignore the sentiments, ignore the lights, go to work, don't
> take the bonus, and eat a bologna sandwich in the company of the anger you
> spew to someone who actually has a belief system in place.
>
>
Exactly, the only explanation I can come up with why some folks feel
every expression of religious belief by others must be totally
suppressed is that their belief systems are very week. If you truly
believe in nothing or whatever why would the belief of another be so
threatening?

George wrote:
> On 12/26/2009 12:41, Virginia Tadrzynski wrote:
>> "Claire > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Loving God, Help us remember the birth of Jesus,
>>> that we may share in the song of the angels,
>>> the gladness of the shepherds,
>>> and worship of the wise men.

>>
>>
> Exactly, the only explanation I can come up with why some folks feel
> every expression of religious belief by others must be totally
> suppressed is that their belief systems are very week. If you truly
> believe in nothing or whatever why would the belief of another be so
> threatening?

Poppycock. Religions have a long history of oppression and forcing their
beliefs on other people. Too many people have sat through the
indoctrination to the point where they may or may not actually believe
the mythology being foisted on them go along with it because of fear of
persecution. We are lucky that some societies are more tolerant of other
religions, but we have been through wars between religions and even
between different denominations and sects within those religions.

It is belief, not fact. Feel free to believe whatever fairy tales you
want, but don't expect the rest of us to believe what you believe, and
don't go whining every time someone speaks out about your preaching or
whining that our opposition to having to sit through public prayers
because freedom of religion doesn't just mean that you are free to
practice your religion. It means that the rest of us are free not to.