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On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 20:59:29 -0600, Sqwertz
wrote: On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:39:52 -0500, brooklyn1 wrote: On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:17:54 -0700, "Janet Bostwick" wrote: "Sqwertz" wrote in message news
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:25:05 -0700, Janet Bostwick wrote:Tile made of aggregate (pieces) have the potential to explode. Quarry tiles are not aggregate. Maybe this explanation will help you. http://tinyurl.com/ycln2b4 I sure hope Thornson isn't reading this. -sw I don't get the reference -- I'm pretty clueless. Who is Thornson? Janet That would be Thornson Grain! LOL Another WHOOSH! Nope... if you want to be creative it's been Thorazine for ages. |
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Doug Freyburger wrote:
gloria.p wrote: They aren't that hard to find in the southwest. There's no guarantee that the clay they are made from is lead-free. In California there's no Porp 65 requirement to label items not related to food preparation. Outside California there's no requirement to include Prop 65 labels on anything. Tiles for flooring aren't food preparation items. Not that I have any idea how much lead leaches out of a tile into the crust of a pizza. If in doubt I'd wrap the tile in heavy duty foil, maybe a couple of layers. gloria p |
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On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 22:01:02 -0700, "gloria.p"
wrote: Doug Freyburger wrote: gloria.p wrote: They aren't that hard to find in the southwest. There's no guarantee that the clay they are made from is lead-free. In California there's no Porp 65 requirement to label items not related to food preparation. Outside California there's no requirement to include Prop 65 labels on anything. Tiles for flooring aren't food preparation items. Not that I have any idea how much lead leaches out of a tile into the crust of a pizza. If in doubt I'd wrap the tile in heavy duty foil, maybe a couple of layers. gloria p Then what's the point? Tiles/stones don't do anything to improve baking in a home oven anyway, especially not when placed in a metal pan... there is no way to turn a home oven (gas or electric) into a real brick oven. A real brick oven relies on the flames licking the bricks and with electric the elements are embedded inside the bricks, nor does a home oven produce anywhere near the BTUs needed for sufficient recovery rate... about all one accomplishes by placing stones in their home oven is increase their fuel bill, quite possibly ruining their oven, and display their ignornace... my GE Profile stove's owner's manual displays a prominent warning (in red) that use of pizza stones voids the warranty (home ovens are not designed to operate at their extreme temperature range with anything that inhibits convection and/or concentrates heat in any particular areas, this can warp sheet metal and damage thermostats and other components). Nowadays even commercial bakeries use perforated bakeware, they realize that it produces far better results and with significantly lower energy consumption.... the greater the air circulation, especially at the bottom of breads, the better the results and at lower temperatures... past a point higher baking temperature causes top burning before the product is baked through... oven temperatures above 450ºF burns pizza toppings and can easily damage home oven sheet metal because the large area of a pizza stone impedes normal convection. Most every pizzeria today uses pizza screens. Anyone who owns a convection oven should definitely be using a pizza screen and perforated bakeware for all breads. Use of pizza stones with convection ovens is indicative of gross stupidity so severe that smarter then a 5th grader would be no achievement, when in fact those idiots aren't smarter than a 5 year old. Imagine, folks paying good money for a modern stove and then being suckered in to buying ancient Aztec cooking rocks. Perhaps solar baking ain't far off, but in the future it won't need to be done outdoors in a scorching desert clime. |
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On Dec 23, 3:02*pm, Chemo the Clown wrote:
On Dec 23, 12:30*pm, notbob wrote: Has anyone seen this legendary mythical creature? I've been searching high and low. *More specifically, Lowe's, which countless baking web-sites swear is the world-wide purveyor of dirt cheap red unglazed quarry tiles. *NOT! *Called 3 Lowe's and been told ...."...no, but we can order them". *Likewise Home depot and half dozen lame small businesses. *I can only suspect the "line my oven for under $5" is a blantant outright lie perpetrated by snarky bread geek wannabe's wishing to impress clueless sourdough wannebe's like myself. nb * There's very little demand for unglazed tiles. Oh...take an anger management class...it'll help. They are mostly for commercial applications. I remember replacing some in the production area of a donut shop almost 30 years ago, and they were in every kitchen in the stores I used to run cleaning crews in. The advantage of them is that they hold up to caustic industrial degreasers. --Bryan |
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On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:46:48 -0800 in rec.food.cooking, David Harmon
wrote, On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:55:54 -0800 (PST) in rec.food.cooking, Manda Ruby wrote, On Dec 23, 1:23*pm, David Harmon wrote: I got mine at Home Depot. *12" square and 1/2 thick. A dollar and change. *Stock item, not some special. Would you be able to provide me with the item number? After my next trip to Home Depot, whenever that happens. It's called a Saltillo paver. 12 x 12 inches. $1.19 The Home Depot item number is 187-565. http://i49.tinypic.com/r77w5y.jpg The one I bought for a pizza stone is nice and flat. When I went back yesterday, every one they had in stock had some kind of animal tracks in the surface. Not just one kind, either, but quite a variety of tracks. |