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Made chicken liver pate

http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/reci..._20355,00.html

and cat refused pureed scrapings from the FP bowl.

The recipe is actually a mousse, and my B&D handy-dandy rechargable
(hah!) whipper thing stalled halfway through whipping the cream.

If I had pork rinds on hand, I'd be elbow-deep in them right now.

Sometimes cooking is discouraging.
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My cat refuses any kind of a wet product and will only eat dry cat food
(IAMS) and only that brand and has done so for 16 years. He will
occassionally meow for some butter if I'm using it, which he gets, if he's
in the kitchen at the time. So, not all cats are hard-wired for anything in
particular. Their tastes are as individual as any other animal.

Have her checked by a vet immediately!!!
>
> Seriously, I thought cats were hard-wired to devour any type of liver

pate!
>
> Mine is, anyway!
>



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>"No One"
>
>
>My cat refuses any kind of a wet product and will only eat dry cat food
>(IAMS) and only that brand and has done so for 16 years. He will
>occassionally meow for some butter if I'm using it, which he gets, if he's
>in the kitchen at the time. So, not all cats are hard-wired for anything in
>particular. Their tastes are as individual as any other animal.


Absolutely... none of my six cats have identical taste preferences and they
will all eat some foods that none of the others will touch, ie. Jilly eats
raisins, Blackie eats whole wheat bread but only toasted, Peachie will kill for
Boar's Head ham but only with Gulden's spicey brown mustard (she won't touch
either separately- go figger-o), Mooch is the only one who will eat liver but
only chicken liver and only if it's raw (she's also in love with canned
'shrooms and black mission olives), Jack is the only one who will eat yogurt
but only berry flavored, and Sarah eats all sorts of bugs but only live ones
(she was an outdoor cat, now indoor) so she's the Exterminator. My first cat
(Marbles) now long ago resting was the only cat I've ever had who would eat
fresh ripe tomatoes, canned tomatoes, sauce, paste, and loved lapping Heinz
ketchup by the saucerful... if ever I have another cat who will eat Heinz
ketchup I'll name it Stan.

>Have her checked by a vet immediately!!!
>>
>> Seriously, I thought cats were hard-wired to devour any type of liver

>pate!
>>
>> Mine is, anyway!



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" wrote:
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> On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 03:44:37 GMT, Sheryl Rosen


> >Seriously, I thought cats were hard-wired to devour any type of liver pate!
> >
> >Mine is, anyway!


My baby Scotty wouldn't dream of eating the chicken live I bought
just for him. (sorry, all these years and I still miss that cat)

Moxie the cat loves!!! Cheezits. Loves them. It's bizarre.

> My cat seems to be on the fringe of being a wild cat. Once (and only
> once, never again) I let him outside, while I closely supervised him.
> He sniffed around, furtively at first, then he got brave and started
> getting out of hand. Next thing I know, I couldn't catch him and he
> disappeared for about 30 minutes. I was frantic. My wife would kill me
> if I let him get away. I looked everywhere, calling his name, no
> longer caring that the neighbors probably thought I was nuts. At that
> point I was almost in tears. I love the big fella!


I've had that happen, both with a dog and a cat. It is frightening.
Glad he came back.

(laugh) Before I ever had a pet of any kind, I agreed to cat sit
for my sil. Had the cat in an apartment down the shore. Well, I
went to do some laundry, leaving the door open for a few minutes,
not being accustomed to having to worry about a pet. Holy crow, it
was gone when I got back, I was frantic. Okay, the door was open to
a hallway, not to the outside, doesn't change the fact I could not
find that cat.

I wore myself out looking for the thing, finally lie down on the bed
in despair, oh no, what am I going to tell her? Lump under the
bedspread. Cat had crawled up under the blankets somehow and was
a little flat nothing. Never been so happy to see a little flat
nothing in my life.
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Nancy Young wrote:
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> " wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 03:44:37 GMT, Sheryl Rosen

>
> > >Seriously, I thought cats were hard-wired to devour any type of liver pate!
> > >
> > >Mine is, anyway!

>
> My baby Scotty wouldn't dream of eating the chicken live I bought
> just for him.


(laugh!) I wouldn't eat a live chicken, either. Chicken liver is
what I meant to say, of course.

nancy
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PENMART01 wrote:
>> "No One"
>>
>>

My first cat (Marbles) now long ago resting was the
> only cat I've ever had who would eat fresh ripe tomatoes, canned
> tomatoes, sauce, paste, and loved lapping Heinz ketchup by the
> saucerful... if ever I have another cat who will eat Heinz ketchup
> I'll name it Stan.


(laughing!!!) That's too funny, and quite a tribute to our ketchup loving
poster.

Jill


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On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:23:11 -0500, "No One" > wrote:

>My cat refuses any kind of a wet product and will only eat dry cat food
>(IAMS) and only that brand and has done so for 16 years. He will
>occassionally meow for some butter if I'm using it, which he gets, if he's
>in the kitchen at the time. So, not all cats are hard-wired for anything in
>particular. Their tastes are as individual as any other animal.


You got it. This is a dry cat-food kitty. My previous housemate
regarded anything but Friskies Mixed Grill as prey. Imagine what a
treat it was to clean up traces of tender roast duck from floor and
carpet after a long chase!


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in article , Nancy Young at
wrote on 1/25/04 12:50 PM:

>
> I wore myself out looking for the thing, finally lie down on the bed
> in despair, oh no, what am I going to tell her? Lump under the
> bedspread. Cat had crawled up under the blankets somehow and was
> a little flat nothing. Never been so happy to see a little flat
> nothing in my life.


After you'd combed the building up, down and sideways, you found the cat
sleeping under the bed spread? Too funny.

Reminds me of something Mandy did. Stupid workman left the bathroom window
open after reglazing my tub the day before and removing the exhaust fan that
morning. Was in a hurry to go to work, never thought to check if he lowered
the window. Come home from work, can't find Mandy. Look all over, notice
the open window, put 2 + 2 together (can't find cat + open window = cat must
have left home). Call Dad hysterical, we looked all over the apartment, and
the neighborhood, for almost 4 hours. Neighbor saw a black cat under a car,
when Dad went to reach out, that cat took off. Defeated, I set out a can of
food on the front steps, went inside dejected, Dad went home. I flopped on
the couch, with a thud. Said out loud "Oh Mandy, what I wouldn't give to see
your furry little face right now...". A few moments later, I heard "meow?"

There she was! Seems the thud i made when I flopped on the couch woke up
the little darling, who thought it would be nice to curl up rather INSIDE
the couch. It was a sofabed, see, and there was this space between the
frame of the couch and the frame of the bed....and she was in there, tucked
away, under the skirt of the sofa. If we had moved the couch cushion when we
took a cursory look behind the couch, we'd have found her hours before!

They look at you like you're nuts, too. "Whaddya worried about? I wouldn't
leave here! I got it too good!" She cuddled for a few minutes then went and
sat next to her bowl, meowing.

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in article , Dog3 at
dognospam@adjfkdla;not wrote on 1/25/04 2:30 PM:

> Her daily food is Max Cat dry
> (hairball formula) and moist. Her favorite moist food is Beef and Egg
> Skillet followed by Hunter's Stew.


Ahhh, Hoot is a Nutro-Kitty!
Mine is too, but only for dry.

I was an in-store demonstrator for Nutro (Max Cat and Natural Choice, wet
and dry, and they also have dog foods) several years ago. It's a good
product. One of the better ones and it's not hellishly expensive.

I still cringe when I hear people brag about what great food Science Diet
and Iams is. It's a step up from Purina Cat Show, but it's still mostly
ground yellow corn. It even smells like popcorn when you open the bag. I
like that the dry Natural Choice smells like chicken when i open the bag. If
it smells like chicken to me, it surely smells like it to my 9 lb furball
with discriminating taste!

Mandy get the Natural choice complete care for weight management. Though I
suppose I should switch her to senior on the next bag.

For canned food, she didn't really care much for the Max cat. She's a
Friskies girl. But giving her the better dry food makes me feel less
guilty. That's the only dry food she would ever eat, was Max Cat. I was able
to switch her over to the Natural choice because I got a lot of samples and
I was able to introduce her to it gradually, as they recommend.


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"Katra" > wrote in message
...

> Got two bags of lovely rooster feathers for any fly tyers out there. <G>
> These were partrige color so feathers are mostly black with a green
> sheen, but hackle and saddle feathers are gold tipped, as are some of
> the shoulder feathers.



Kat,

Where should I direct the shipping address? :-)

Jason


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Sheryl Rosen > wrote in message >...
>SNIP
>
> There she was! Seems the thud i made when I flopped on the couch woke up
> the little darling, who thought it would be nice to curl up rather INSIDE
> the couch. It was a sofabed, see, and there was this space between the
> frame of the couch and the frame of the bed....and she was in there, tucked
> away, under the skirt of the sofa. If we had moved the couch cushion when we
> took a cursory look behind the couch, we'd have found her hours before!
>
> They look at you like you're nuts, too. "Whaddya worried about? I wouldn't
> leave here! I got it too good!" She cuddled for a few minutes then went and
> sat next to her bowl, meowing.


Last fall, I got home from a three week trip abroad, and found my cat
Isadora under the barcalounger chair. Being a true cat, she's good at
finding the warm places, and one of her favorite hideouts is under
that chair. I think she must have forgotten how to get back out, as
she was crying to be set free when I walked in the door. I'm just glad
I found her when I did. (Yes, the cats had had a pet sitter to take
care of necessities while I was gone.)

Isadora is also very fond of the kitchen cabinet where I keep my
mixing bowls and various baking dishes, and she's been shut in there,
once or twice by accident. Fortunately, she has a very distinctive mew
and knows how to ask to be let out. Pan doesn't hide, he just drapes
himself over my shoulders whenever I sit down for more than five
minutes and follows me doggedly from room to room.

Melissa


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Sheryl Rosen > wrote:

> I still cringe when I hear people brag about what great food Science Diet
> and Iams is. It's a step up from Purina Cat Show, but it's still mostly
> ground yellow corn.


If you read the label, Iams has the same amount of protien as MaxCat.

By the way, you wrote that MaxCat doesn't have filler that bulks up
the stool. Another word for "filler" is "fiber." One would think,
fiber is beneficial to cats for the same reasons it is beneficial
to humans.
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>From: (Melissa Houle)
>Date: 1/27/2004 12:16 PM Mountain Standard Time


>
>Sheryl Rosen > wrote in message

...
>>SNIP
>>
>> There she was! Seems the thud i made when I flopped on the couch woke up
>> the little darling, who thought it would be nice to curl up rather INSIDE
>> the couch. It was a sofabed, see, and there was this space between the
>> frame of the couch and the frame of the bed....and she was in there, tucked
>> away, under the skirt of the sofa. If we had moved the couch cushion when

>we
>> took a cursory look behind the couch, we'd have found her hours before!
>>
>> They look at you like you're nuts, too. "Whaddya worried about? I wouldn't
>> leave here! I got it too good!" She cuddled for a few minutes then went

>and
>> sat next to her bowl, meowing.

>
>Last fall, I got home from a three week trip abroad, and found my cat
>Isadora under the barcalounger chair. Being a true cat, she's good at
>finding the warm places, and one of her favorite hideouts is under
>that chair. I think she must have forgotten how to get back out, as
>she was crying to be set free when I walked in the door. I'm just glad
>I found her when I did. (Yes, the cats had had a pet sitter to take
>care of necessities while I was gone.)
>
>Isadora is also very fond of the kitchen cabinet where I keep my
>mixing bowls and various baking dishes, and she's been shut in there,
>once or twice by accident. Fortunately, she has a very distinctive mew
>and knows how to ask to be let out. Pan doesn't hide, he just drapes
>himself over my shoulders whenever I sit down for more than five
>minutes and follows me doggedly from room to room.
>
>Melissa
>

One time I catsit for a neighbor and couldn't find her white Persian. I felt
odd looking all over the place for him as I wasn't too close with his owner.
Finally found that guy - under the made bed. His owner gave me a fruitcake for
my trouble.

When Toonces was a small thing she acted like a wildcat and I always worried
about her. We had a reclining chair and she would get up inside it and we were
always afraid to close it. We had a tall cat post, almost to the ceiling, and
she'd get up there and I feared she wouldn't be able to get back down. She has
been through a few of her nine lives, for sure! One time, hub turned on the
clothes dryer with her in it. Another time, she was out all night and hub
heard scuffling sounds and was sure an owl had carried her off. That little
tabby is a survivor and will be 9 this spring.


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in article , M-W at
wrote on 1/27/04 3:43 PM:

> Sheryl Rosen > wrote:
>
>> I still cringe when I hear people brag about what great food Science Diet
>> and Iams is. It's a step up from Purina Cat Show, but it's still mostly
>> ground yellow corn.

>
> If you read the label, Iams has the same amount of protien as MaxCat.


Yeah, I'm sure it does. It has to. That's a standard set by AAFCO.
>
> By the way, you wrote that MaxCat doesn't have filler that bulks up
> the stool. Another word for "filler" is "fiber." One would think,
> fiber is beneficial to cats for the same reasons it is beneficial
> to humans.


No. I didn't say MaxCat doesn't have "filler". I said it doesn't have
"ground yellow corn", and it smells like chicken, not corn. You need to
learn to read for comprehension.

MaxCat does use grain as filler (which is not necessarily the same as
fiber), but it's rice, which is more digestible and has more usable
nutrients than corn. Corn is tasty, but it's not all that nutritious. For
humans or cats. Iams uses "ground yellow corn"--the entire corn grain. The
only part of the corn grain that Max Cat uses is the gluten. And that's the
only part that has any nutrition.

As for protein, if you read the labels carefully, you will see that the
first ingredient on the Iams label is "Chicken". Sounds good, right? Wrong!

The first ingredient on the MaxCat label is "Chicken Meal".

Meat, as you know is predominantly water. Ingredients are listed in order
of predominance, by weight BEFORE PROCESSING. If you mix 1 pound of ground
chicken meat with 1/2 lb of corn meal, and bake it until it's DRY, you are
evaporating all the water and what you wind up with is basically a chicken
flavored corn meal cookie. Only about 1/5 of the weight of the meat remains
after cooking until dry. If you start with 1 lb of dry chicken meal (It
takes 5lbs of chicken to get one pound of chicken meal), and mix it with 1/2
lb of corn meal... you are actually getting more chicken protein by volume
than if you start with an equal amount of meat.

Iams may have "the same amount of protein" as Max Cat, but there is an awful
lot more filler, in the form of ground yellow corn meal, that has to get
processed by your cat only to wind up in the litter box. Why pay for
something that has no nutritional value and that only serves to make your
cat's little body work harder and create more poop for you deal with????

All fillers are not created equally. Some are just filler. Others do provide
much needed soluble fiber and some nutrients. Corn is just filler. Oats and
rice provide soluble fiber and plenty of nutrients.

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