I came across a web site that offers what they call "white trash"
recipes. I don't know how to cut and paste so I can't give the URL but
it is called yumfood.net. They have recipes for Tatertot casserole,
Tuna loaf, a lot of things with saltine crackers (both savory and
sweet) and a whole lot of stuff that uses weiners. Someone in ths
group posted a recipe for "Hamburger Gravy" and it sounded to me like
what could be thought of as "white trash cooking" but it was
DELICIOUS. What comes to mind when you think of "white trash cooking"?
Here is a recipe from that site that I am going to try:

Corn Dog Muffins

1) Corn bread muffin mix
2) 1 cup milk
3) 2 eggs
4) 1 cup oil (seems like a lot)
5) 1 pack of paper muffin liners
6) 1 muffin tin
7) 1 package of the cheapest hot dogs money can buy

Mix muffin mix and other ingredients (except hot dogs)
Place muffin liners in muffin tin
Pour batter into muffin liners
Cut hot dogs in half and center in each muffin with the round end
pointing out
Bake until muffins are goldne brown

The Heap

To me white trash is a horrible horrible phrase. And not from a race point
of view - couldn't give a hoot about that - but from a "class" point of
view. In Australia we call poor people "battlers", and we try and help them.
Even the phrase "White trash" to me, says a lot about America. What do
Americans think about it?

Even the phrase "White trash" to me, says a lot about America. What do
Americans think about it?

It's usually used ironically, with reference to a historical context, these
days, to refer to a concept of social class that no longer really holds. It
doesn't necessarily connote poverty as much as a radically independent
rejection of Brahmin social norms. The term "trailer trash" is a little more
current, with much the same nuance.

Neil

david wrote:

To me white trash is a horrible horrible phrase. And not from a race point
of view - couldn't give a hoot about that - but from a "class" point of
view. In Australia we call poor people "battlers", and we try and help them.
Even the phrase "White trash" to me, says a lot about America. What do
Americans think about it?

It's essentially a joke, far less serious than you take it.

nancy

The Heap wrote:

I came across a web site that offers what they call "white trash"
recipes. I don't know how to cut and paste so I can't give the URL but
it is called yumfood.net. They have recipes for Tatertot casserole,
Tuna loaf, a lot of things with saltine crackers (both savory and
sweet) and a whole lot of stuff that uses weiners. Someone in ths
group posted a recipe for "Hamburger Gravy" and it sounded to me like
what could be thought of as "white trash cooking" but it was
DELICIOUS. What comes to mind when you think of "white trash cooking"?

A few months ago I was channel surfing and came across a cooking show
featuring white trash cooking. The hostess was a large women in poofed
hair and very tightly stretched pants making canap=E9s with cheese is a
spray can and other cocktail goodies usually available at corner stores.

"david" wrote in message
news
To me white trash is a horrible horrible phrase. And not from a race point
of view - couldn't give a hoot about that - but from a "class" point of
view. In Australia we call poor people "battlers", and we try and help
them.
Even the phrase "White trash" to me, says a lot about America. What do
Americans think about it?



My opinion.... There is a difference in being poor, being trash, or being
homeless. One can be poor, but still be decent--they take the trash out,
they do their, um, business in the toilet, take baths and brush teeth on a
regular basis, children in the family go to school, they behave
appropriately... White trash are those that don't take their garbage out or
bathe, or go to the bathroom in the toilet, etc--even though they could
afford to do better and know better and are physically and mentally able,
they don't because they're lazy . Then, there are homeless people, and they
may not be able to bathe, etc, but I don't tend to lump them with white
trash. I'm originally from a classic southern small town, and even there,
the term white trash is only used in reference to the kind of people
desribed above. It's by no means a blanket term used for poor people.

From my pov, being poor is no excuse for being lazy and filthy. I kind of
feel that unless a person is willing to try themselves to improve their
situation, no matter how much help, sympathy, etc, I give, then they're
probably not going to change. However, if a person is willing to do the
slightest bit to try to make things better for themselves, then I feel that
I should do what to help them. Sometimes, a person needs a little guidance,
or someone to give a hand or show them the way. But, if you show someone
and offer to help, and they still don't change or aren't willing to try...
you know...

Hopefully, I haven't upset anyone or anything... I'm sure this could be
quite a touchy subject.

Anyway, as far as the phrase "white trash cooking" i'm not a fan, as I think
it encourages food snobbery. My philosophy on food is you eat what you
want, I'll eat what I want. I think some people try to put others down
because they don't eat fancy food, or cook with cream of whateve soup, or
eat velveeta. Kind of the same way some people look down at people because
they don't wear expensive clothes or drive expensive cars...

"Nancy Young" wrote in message
...
david wrote:

To me white trash is a horrible horrible phrase. And not from a race
point
of view - couldn't give a hoot about that - but from a "class" point of
view. In Australia we call poor people "battlers", and we try and help
them.
Even the phrase "White trash" to me, says a lot about America. What do
Americans think about it?

It's essentially a joke, far less serious than you take it.

Fair enough. Hard for me to tell over here.

In article ,
(WardNA) wrote:

Even the phrase "White trash" to me, says a lot about America. What do
Americans think about it?

It's usually used ironically, with reference to a historical context, these
days, to refer to a concept of social class that no longer really holds.

That depends on what you mean by "social class." I would argue that
class divisions are becoming more and more pronounced in the US,
although the boundaries are now determined less by ethnic/racial
criteria, and more by economic status and business affinities. We are
moving from democracy to plutocracy.

But this is probably not the forum to debate such matters.

--
Julian Vrieslander

"david" wrote in
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To me white trash is a horrible horrible phrase. And not from a race
point of view - couldn't give a hoot about that - but from a "class"
point of view. In Australia we call poor people "battlers", and we try
and help them. Even the phrase "White trash" to me, says a lot about
America. What do Americans think about it?



David,

I'd disagree that "battler" just means poor people in general. A battler
need not be poverty stricken. The Macquarie Dictionary Book of Slang
(http://www.macquariedictionary.com.a...s@FF982909775+
0/-/p/dict/slang.html)
gives the following definitions of "battler" which I would agree with
from the everyday usage I'm familiar with.

battler
noun 1. a decent and fair person who struggles continually and
persistently against heavy odds; a doer. 2. Also, (little) Aussie
battler. a typical member of the working class in Australia. 3. a
conscientious worker, especially one living at subsistence level

I think the term "white trash" 1. does not have so much to do with how
much money the people have as to how they behave and 2. when used as it
was here with regards to cooking etc. is used in a joking manner.

The same sort of things go on here, regardless of how egalitarian the
country is supposed to be. I grew up (and still live) in the outer west
of Sydney which would make me a Westie to many people (though I'm not
necessarily uncouth and without culture, and I don't think I ever wore a
pair of Ugg boots outside the house, although I have worn flannelette
shirts - see definition of Westie below sig). I remember as a teenager
referring to people who lived on the other side of the harbour bridge as
Northie snobs - although I don't think I'd ever met any at that stage!!


Rhonda Anderson - proud to be a Westie vbg
Cranebrook, NSW, Australia


From The Book of Slang -
westie
noun 1. (Derogatory) a person from the western suburbs of Sydney,
usually characterised as being unsophisticated, uncouth, and typically
wearing certain distinguishing items of clothing, as flannelette shirts
and ugh boots. The word is applied negatively to any people living west
of one's own suburb, thus a Bondi inhabitant may call a person from Ryde
a westie, but Ryde inhabitants would not consider themselves such, and
instead apply the term to people from Parramatta, who in turn apply it to
people from Penrith, etc. --adjective 2. pertaining to a westie;
characteristic of a westie. Also, westy.

the 'mock apple pie'

Makes 1 - 9 inch pie

" Love apple pie, but hate apples? Your prayers have been answered! "

Ingredients

1 1/2 cups white sugar
1 1/2 cups water
1 tablespoon butter
1 1/2 teaspoons cream of tartar
1/2 teaspoon ground cinnamon
16 double-wide soda crackers
1 (9 inch) pie shell


Directions

1 Preheat oven to 425 degrees F (220 degrees C).
2 In a saucepan, combine sugar, water, butter, cream of tartar and cinnamon.
Bring to a boil, and continue to boil for 2 minutes.
3 Break 16 (double) soda crackers into pie shell. Pour hot syrup over.
4 Add top crust, seal and flute edges. Bake at 425 degrees F (220 degrees C)
for 30 to 35 minutes.
yumm yummm!




"The Heap" wrote in message
om...
I came across a web site that offers what they call "white trash"
recipes. I don't know how to cut and paste so I can't give the URL but
it is called yumfood.net. They have recipes for Tatertot casserole,
Tuna loaf, a lot of things with saltine crackers (both savory and
sweet) and a whole lot of stuff that uses weiners. Someone in ths
group posted a recipe for "Hamburger Gravy" and it sounded to me like
what could be thought of as "white trash cooking" but it was
DELICIOUS. What comes to mind when you think of "white trash cooking"?
Here is a recipe from that site that I am going to try:

Corn Dog Muffins

1) Corn bread muffin mix
2) 1 cup milk
3) 2 eggs
4) 1 cup oil (seems like a lot)
5) 1 pack of paper muffin liners
6) 1 muffin tin
7) 1 package of the cheapest hot dogs money can buy

Mix muffin mix and other ingredients (except hot dogs)
Place muffin liners in muffin tin
Pour batter into muffin liners
Cut hot dogs in half and center in each muffin with the round end
pointing out
Bake until muffins are goldne brown

The Heap

"david" wrote in message
news
To me white trash is a horrible horrible phrase. And not from a race point
of view - couldn't give a hoot about that - but from a "class" point of
view. In Australia we call poor people "battlers", and we try and help
them.
Even the phrase "White trash" to me, says a lot about America. What do
Americans think about it?


Oh bull - as an Aussie (now living in the USA) I heard the term "white
trash" used many many times over the years in Australia. Far more often than
"battlers".

"Rhonda Anderson" wrote in message
.5...
"david" wrote in
news I'd disagree that "battler" just means poor people in general.

Well, I didn't mean poor people in general. Here's my point:
http://www.australianbeers.com/culture/batters.htm

"A Adams" wrote in
:


"david" wrote in message
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To me white trash is a horrible horrible phrase. And not from a race
point of view - couldn't give a hoot about that - but from a "class"
point of view. In Australia we call poor people "battlers", and we
try and help
them.
Even the phrase "White trash" to me, says a lot about America. What
do Americans think about it?


Oh bull - as an Aussie (now living in the USA) I heard the term "white
trash" used many many times over the years in Australia. Far more
often than "battlers".


Just out of curiosity, what part of Australia were you in? I immediately
associate the phrase "white trash" with America. It's a term I'm familiar
with from American TV shows etc. Certainly not one I would use. Plenty of
other Australian terms that would mean the same thing g but I wouldn't
use "white trash" nor do I think I've ever had a conversation with
someone who used it.

"Battler" does get used, though lately mostly by politicians and
reporters I think g.

Rhonda Anderson
Cranebrook, NSW, Australia

"david" wrote in news:TpFQb.26579$Wa.13863
@news-server.bigpond.net.au:


"Rhonda Anderson" wrote in message
.5...
"david" wrote in
news I'd disagree that "battler" just means poor people in general.

Well, I didn't mean poor people in general. Here's my point:
http://www.australianbeers.com/culture/batters.htm


OK, I was just going by what you wrote in the initial post which was

In Australia we call poor people "battlers", and we try
and help them.

Figured you meant all poor people! Sorry.

From what I had already thought "white trash" meant, and the definitions
several people have posted in this thread so far, I think we can safely
say that "white trash" and "battlers" do not refer to the same sort of
people!

Rhonda Anderson
Cranebrook, NSW, Australia

In article ,
Rhonda Anderson wrote:

Rhonda Anderson - proud to be a Westie vbg
Cranebrook, NSW, Australia


From The Book of Slang -
westie
noun 1. (Derogatory) a person from the western suburbs of Sydney,
usually characterised as being unsophisticated, uncouth, and typically
wearing certain distinguishing items of clothing, as flannelette shirts
and ugh boots. The word is applied negatively to any people living west
of one's own suburb, thus a Bondi inhabitant may call a person from Ryde
a westie, but Ryde inhabitants would not consider themselves such, and
instead apply the term to people from Parramatta, who in turn apply it to
people from Penrith, etc. --adjective 2. pertaining to a westie;
characteristic of a westie. Also, westy.

"Westie" is also used in NZ, meaning "From West Auckland" and with the
connotations above. We sometimes use the word "bogan" for the same type
of people, and that comes from Australia too.

Miche

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