Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
jackoff.


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The Wolf > wrote:

> Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
> jackoff.

Best damn roast I've ever had. Call him an idiot if you like, but I'm
doing it only that way from now on.
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On 12/22/2003 6:53 AM, in article ,
"Elana Kehoe" > opined:

> The Wolf > wrote:
>
>> Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
>> jackoff.
>
> Best damn roast I've ever had. Call him an idiot if you like, but I'm
> doing it only that way from now on.

Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?
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> > Best damn roast I've ever had. Call him an idiot if you like, but I'm
> > doing it only that way from now on.
>
> Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?
>

What is so unusual about taking a clay pot (new, unused) and using it
thusly... instead of buying a clay baking dish sold in kitchen stores?
Goomba

>Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?

I bake bread in a flower pot. Clay is wonderful to bake in.

~Kat


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were not in this body, where would I be--perhaps I am destined to be classified
and qualified. But, oh, I cry out aginst it." --Sylvia Plath

Goomba38 wrote:
>
> > > Best damn roast I've ever had. Call him an idiot if you like, but I'm
> > > doing it only that way from now on.
> >
> > Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?
> >
>
> What is so unusual about taking a clay pot (new, unused) and using it
> thusly... instead of buying a clay baking dish sold in kitchen stores?
> Goomba

Yeah, he could spend the big bucks on one of those ... what are they
called? Rumertofs (I know that's not the word)

nancy

Nancy Young > wrote in
:

>> What is so unusual about taking a clay pot (new, unused) and
>> using it thusly... instead of buying a clay baking dish sold in
>> kitchen stores? Goomba
>
> Yeah, he could spend the big bucks on one of those ... what are
> they called? Rumertofs (I know that's not the word)

Römertopf but that's a brand name. They're actually called
Spiessbräter IIRC. But a flower pot sounds just as interesting.

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word for entrepreneur."

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via Baroness Williams

Nancy Young wrote:

>
> Yeah, he could spend the big bucks on one of those ... what are they
> called? Rumertofs (I know that's not the word)
>
> nancy

Yeah, like this one-
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tegory=20 627

Goomba38 wrote:
>
> Nancy Young wrote:
>
> >
> > Yeah, he could spend the big bucks on one of those ... what are they
> > called? Rumertofs (I know that's not the word)
> >
> > nancy
>
> Yeah, like this one-
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tegory=20 627

Exactly, only much larger, of course.

nancy

The Wolf wrote:
> Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what
> a jackoff.

Cooking in clay is nothing unsual. For a long time several cultures
(Indians, the ones from southeast asia) and I *think* some African
tribes have cooked in clay pots.

As Alton says on the show, clay is exceptionally good at giving an even
heat distribution. Ovens, especially ones that aren't convection ovens,
have heat that is more directed from the heating element. Using that
"big flower pot" helps even out the heat so the meat doesn't burn on one
side while being rare on the other.

I for one like the idea. It is cost-effective and works well.

If you listen to other things he recommends he talks quite a bit about
methods and gadgets that aren't typical kitchen fare but work well and
are sometimes cheaper. For example, kitchen shears.

--
John Gaughan
http://www.johngaughan.net/

(Jarkat2002) writes:

>>Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?
>
>I bake bread in a flower pot. Clay is wonderful to bake in.

Typical clay flower pots are not necessarily food-safe... most found in US
markets are imported from countries where no testing is done on the raw
materials contained therein. If you purchased that clay flower pot from the
plant nursery it's intent is to contain posies, not pot roast. Even clay
cookware is not always food-safe. Who was it that recently recounted her
experience with a tainted tangine.

Yes, Alton Brown is most definitely an imbecile... pot head probably ingested
clay pot lead.


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zenit > writes:

>Looks like the thing I grow my herb garden in...

A Chia Pet pot!

Ahahahaha. . . .



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The Wolf > wrote:

> Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?

Clay is one of the oldest cooking materials known to man. What's so
strange about it?
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The Wolf wrote:

> Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
> jackoff.

Never heard of Tandoori cooking, have you? Do you think that electric and
gas ovens have been around for millenia?

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The Wolf wrote:

>>> Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
>>> jackoff.
>>
>> Best damn roast I've ever had. Call him an idiot if you like, but I'm
>> doing it only that way from now on.
>
> Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?

There is a restaurant chain called Spinakers who make bread in flower pots
to order.

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On 2003-12-22, John Gaughan > wrote:

> As Alton says on the show, clay is exceptionally good at giving an even
> heat distribution. Ovens, especially ones that aren't convection ovens,
> have heat that is more directed from the heating element.

This is specially true with electric ovens. I've measured temperature
swings (element on/off) as much as 50 F deg in some electrics. A clay
pot would do much to improve temperature consistency. One should
still use some sort of rack.

nb

On 12/22/2003 8:12 AM, in article
, "PENMART01"
> opined:

> (Jarkat2002) writes:
>
>>> Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?
>>
>> I bake bread in a flower pot. Clay is wonderful to bake in.
>
> Typical clay flower pots are not necessarily food-safe...

He put the roast in a pyrex dish so it did not contact the flower pot.

That being said I *still* think he's a imbecile.



most found in US
> markets are imported from countries where no testing is done on the raw
> materials contained therein. If you purchased that clay flower pot from the
> plant nursery it's intent is to contain posies, not pot roast. Even clay
> cookware is not always food-safe. Who was it that recently recounted her
> experience with a tainted tangine.
>
> Yes, Alton Brown is most definitely an imbecile... pot head probably ingested
> clay pot lead.
>
>
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PENMART01 wrote:

> Typical clay flower pots are not necessarily food-safe...

Which is why I line them with parchment. Problem solved.

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Actually it sounded like a pretty neat idea to me. To each his own..

The Wolf wrote:
> Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
> jackoff.
>
>

In article >, The Wolf
> writes:

>PENMART01"
> opined:
>
>> (Jarkat2002) writes:
>>
>>>> Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?
>>>
>>> I bake bread in a flower pot. Clay is wonderful to bake in.
>>
>> Typical clay flower pots are not necessarily food-safe...
>
>He put the roast in a pyrex dish so it did not contact the flower pot.
>
>That being said I *still* think he's a imbecile.

Huh, then there was no point whatsoever to the clay pot... makes Alton Brown a
friggin' pointy headed imbecile.


>most found in US
>> markets are imported from countries where no testing is done on the raw
>> materials contained therein. If you purchased that clay flower pot from
>the
>> plant nursery it's intent is to contain posies, not pot roast. Even clay
>> cookware is not always food-safe. Who was it that recently recounted her
>> experience with a tainted tangine.
>>
>> Yes, Alton Brown is most definitely an imbecile... pot head probably
>> ingested clay pot lead.



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On 12/22/2003 12:03 PM, in article
, "PENMART01"
> opined:

> In article >, The Wolf
> > writes:
>
>> PENMART01"
>> > opined:
>>
>>> (Jarkat2002) writes:
>>>
>>>>> Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?
>>>>
>>>> I bake bread in a flower pot. Clay is wonderful to bake in.
>>>
>>> Typical clay flower pots are not necessarily food-safe...
>>
>> He put the roast in a pyrex dish so it did not contact the flower pot.
>>
>> That being said I *still* think he's a imbecile.
>
> Huh, then there was no point whatsoever to the clay pot

He put the Pyrex pan with the roast in it INSIDE the clay pot (upside down
on a pizza stone).

I think he's *** so why try and make "Q" or "W" or whatever the **** her
name is look sexy?


... makes Alton Brown a
> friggin' pointy headed imbecile.
>
>
>> most found in US
>>> markets are imported from countries where no testing is done on the raw
>>> materials contained therein. If you purchased that clay flower pot from
>> the
>>> plant nursery it's intent is to contain posies, not pot roast. Even clay
>>> cookware is not always food-safe. Who was it that recently recounted her
>>> experience with a tainted tangine.
>>>
>>> Yes, Alton Brown is most definitely an imbecile... pot head probably
>>> ingested clay pot lead.
>
>
>
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>

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Reg > writes:

>PENMART01 wrote:
>
>> Typical clay flower pots are not necessarily food-safe...
>
>Which is why I line them with parchment.

Lining with parchment negates the porosity of the clay, which makes both you
and Alton Brown friggin' pointy headed imbeciles, only you're the one with the
Pinochio nose... yer momma oughta line yer lying mouth with soap.


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PENMART01 wrote:

> Lining with parchment negates the porosity of the clay, which makes both you
> and Alton Brown friggin' pointy headed imbeciles, only you're the one with the
> Pinochio nose... yer momma oughta line yer lying mouth with soap.

Porosity has nothing to do with it. The reason you use a clay pot, or
a coffee can, is for the shape it makes the loaf.

Nice try.

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Reg > writes:

>PENMART01 wrote:
>
>> Lining with parchment negates the porosity of the clay, which makes both
>you
>> and Alton Brown friggin' pointy headed imbeciles, only you're the one with
>the
>> Pinochio nose... yer momma oughta line yer lying mouth with soap.
>
>Porosity has nothing to do with it. The reason you use a clay pot, or
>a coffee can, is for the shape it makes the loaf.

Hey, what's with the "you", speak for yourself.

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>Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
>jackoff.

#############
NO you're the Jackoff. It makes all the sense in the world and works well. BG

"PENMART01" > wrote in message
...
> Reg > writes:
>
> >PENMART01 wrote:
> >
> >> Lining with parchment negates the porosity of the clay, which makes
both
> >you
> >> and Alton Brown friggin' pointy headed imbeciles, only you're the one
with
> >the
> >> Pinochio nose... yer momma oughta line yer lying mouth with soap.
> >
> >Porosity has nothing to do with it. The reason you use a clay pot, or
> >a coffee can, is for the shape it makes the loaf.
>
> Hey, what's with the "you", speak for yourself.
>
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Hey that's not Reg, that's my cousin the racist. Have you seen him? He
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The Wolf > wrote:
>Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
>jackoff.

His hair is nicer than yours.

--Blair
"And he doesn't smell of dumpster."

On 12/22/2003 1:57 PM, in article ,
"Blair P. Houghton" > opined:

> The Wolf > wrote:
>> Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
>> jackoff.
>
> His hair is nicer than yours.
>
> --Blair
> "And he doesn't smell of dumpster."

How do you know?
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Blair P. Houghton > wrote in
:

> The Wolf > wrote:
>>Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot,
>>what a jackoff.
>
> His hair is nicer than yours.

And his vocabulary more refahned...

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word for entrepreneur."

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via Baroness Williams

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:58:59 -0800, Coas****cher
> wrote:

> Actually it sounded like a pretty neat idea to me. To each his own..
>
Although cooking in clay isn't the end of the world AFAIC, I
just looked at the recipe and it didn't seem very good to
me. Maybe he made it look better on TV.


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

Bud foundered:

> sf wrote:
>
>>Although cooking in clay isn't the end of the world AFAIC, I
>>just looked at the recipe and it didn't seem very good to
>>me. Maybe he made it look better on TV.
>
>Where can I see your TV show, and buy your books??

Perhaps "sf" can actually cook instead... you can't do either... well, you
supply the gas.



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On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:59:37 GMT, Never anonymous Bud
> wrote:

> While still snuggled in a 'spider hole', sf > scribbled:
>
> >On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:58:59 -0800, Coas****cher
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Actually it sounded like a pretty neat idea to me. To each his own..
>
> >Although cooking in clay isn't the end of the world AFAIC, I
> >just looked at the recipe and it didn't seem very good to
> >me. Maybe he made it look better on TV.
>
> It looked GREAT to me.
>
> Where can I see your TV show, and buy your books??
>

"It looked great to me" would have surficed.

By adding your little dig about tv shows and cookbooks, are
you trying to say I'm not entitled to an opinion? I'm an
experience cook who can READ and I am entitled to my
opinion. I can say it doesn't seem good <to me>. There, I
said it again. It doesn't look good. Ooops, I said it
again.



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On 12/22/2003 2:14 PM, in article
, "Michel Boucher"
> opined:

> Blair P. Houghton > wrote in
> :
>
>> The Wolf > wrote:
>>> Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot,
>>> what a jackoff.
>>
>> His hair is nicer than yours.
>
> And his vocabulary more refahned...

And you know this how?
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The Wolf wrote:
> On 12/22/2003 6:53 AM, in article ,
> "Elana Kehoe" > opined:
>
>
>>The Wolf > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
>>>jackoff.
>>
>>Best damn roast I've ever had. Call him an idiot if you like, but I'm
>>doing it only that way from now on.
>
>
> Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?

I think you have taken this out of context. The guy likes to multi task
(I which my wife would do that,)and the function of the flower pot, can
be used to cook (earth ware.)

Who cares if it's meant to be a flower pot, in this case, it's meant to
be a cooking vessel.

Richard

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Goomba38 wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:
>
>
>>Yeah, he could spend the big bucks on one of those ... what are they
>>called? Rumertofs (I know that's not the word)
>>
>>nancy
>
>
> Yeah, like this one-
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tegory=20 627
>
>
>
>

Looks like a flower pot to me : )

Richard

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Richard Periut wrote:

> Who cares if it's meant to be a flower pot, in this case, it's meant to
> be a cooking vessel.

Yes, but the question is does it make the roast come out any better. It's
true that it evens out the heat somewhat, but I haven't found uneven heating
of my roasts to be a problem.

That said, I do use flower pots to cook bread in...

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Reg wrote:
> Richard Periut wrote:
>
>> Who cares if it's meant to be a flower pot, in this case, it's meant
>> to be a cooking vessel.
>
>
> Yes, but the question is does it make the roast come out any better. It's
> true that it evens out the heat somewhat, but I haven't found uneven
> heating
> of my roasts to be a problem.
>
> That said, I do use flower pots to cook bread in...
>

Well that is highly subjective, but since clay vessels gives foods a
different quality (IMO), then I'd say it is a good thing.

Richard

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in article , Reg at
wrote on 12/22/03 3:20 PM:

> PENMART01 wrote:
>
>> Lining with parchment negates the porosity of the clay, which makes both you
>> and Alton Brown friggin' pointy headed imbeciles, only you're the one with
>> the
>> Pinochio nose... yer momma oughta line yer lying mouth with soap.
>
> Porosity has nothing to do with it. The reason you use a clay pot, or
> a coffee can, is for the shape it makes the loaf.
>
> Nice try.

We're not just talking about bread, though.
In fact, in the case of Alton Brown, we're talking about a beef roast.
Nice try.

Sheryl Rosen wrote:

> We're not just talking about bread, though.
> In fact, in the case of Alton Brown, we're talking about a beef roast.
> Nice try.

You need to read this branch of the thread a little better. We were
indeed talking about using pots for baking bread.

Read it if you're that interested.

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The Wolf wrote:
> On 12/22/2003 6:53 AM, in article ,
> "Elana Kehoe" > opined:
>
>
>>The Wolf > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Last night he was cooking a prime rib roast in a big flower pot, what a
>>>jackoff.
>>
>>Best damn roast I've ever had. Call him an idiot if you like, but I'm
>>doing it only that way from now on.
>
>
> Seriously, you are telling me you put a flower pot in your oven?

Guess you have very little knowledge of bread baking. Quite common to
use a flower pot.
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Alan

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avoid the people, you might better stay home."
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