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Old 27-10-2009, 09:37 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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I find this disturbing. I can't believe there isn't another way to
deal with it. Government cheese for all?


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...IVvfwD9BJ9LA82

Lou

DES MOINES, Iowa — A milk glut has dairy farmers across the U.S.
killing hundreds of thousands of cows to try to reduce the milk supply
and boost prices.

More than 225,000 cows have been killed this year through a program
run by the National Milk Producers Federation. It pays farmers going
out of business to slaughter their cows, rather than sell them to
someone else. Agriculture experts say another 55,000 cows are being
killed each week outside the program.

Milk processors started paying farmers less after the global recession
reduced demand for milk, especially overseas. Experts say the
slaughter has helped boost the prices some, but they still lag behind
the cost of production.

They also say grocery store prices will remain low because supply
still exceeds demand.

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
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Old 27-10-2009, 11:07 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:04:41 -0600, "Gregory Morrow"
wrote:

Lou Decruss wrote:

I find this disturbing. I can't believe there isn't another way to
deal with it. Government cheese for all?



Remember a whiles back when peeps were crying about the price of a gallon of
milk, seems like ages ago now. Dairy products are now about as cheap as
I've ever seen them...


It really wasn't that long ago. I remember Kili saying they were
paying almost 7 bucks a gallon maybe two years ago. Aldi just raised
their price to $1.79 from $1.49. I see Valli produce out in the burbs
has Dean's for $1.99. Dean's is almost never on sale. Wisconsin
cheeses are dirt cheap too. They've got a Wisconsin American on sale
for $1.99. So you can get real cheese cheaper that than Kraft
singles. I can't complain about the cheap prices but something has to
give.

Will the increased cow supply mean cheaper beef, or...???


I'm sure in the short term it will.

Lou

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Old 27-10-2009, 11:40 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Gregory Morrow wrote:
Lou Decruss wrote:

I find this disturbing. I can't believe there isn't another way to
deal with it. Government cheese for all?



Remember a whiles back when peeps were crying about the price of a gallon of
milk, seems like ages ago now. Dairy products are now about as cheap as
I've ever seen them...

Will the increased cow supply mean cheaper beef, or...???


Most dairy cattle get butchered for canned meats and ground meat.
Doesn't necessarily mean beef will be cheaper though. Friend sold a
bunch of calves in July that were picked up by the buyer this month.
Luckily he sold them then because the going price at auction as fallen
pretty good.
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Old 28-10-2009, 12:04 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Lou Decruss wrote:

I find this disturbing. I can't believe there isn't another way to
deal with it. Government cheese for all?



Remember a whiles back when peeps were crying about the price of a gallon of
milk, seems like ages ago now. Dairy products are now about as cheap as
I've ever seen them...

Will the increased cow supply mean cheaper beef, or...???


--
Best
Greg



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Old 28-10-2009, 12:31 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On Oct 27, 6:15*pm, Mark Thorson wrote:
Lou Decruss wrote:

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:04:41 -0600, "Gregory Morrow"


Will the increased cow supply mean cheaper beef, or...???


I'm sure in the short term it will.


I wonder how it will impact the price of mushrooms?


What? You mean the special mushrooms that grow in the cow fields? I
don't think that's a source supply thing. When we lived in Florida,
the high school students would go into the fields before school, right
at dawn, and collect 'em by the grocery sack. At least that's what my
teenage coworker told me, and he wasn't the bullshitting type.

--Bryan
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On Oct 27, 5:35*pm, "l, not -l" wrote:
On 27-Oct-2009, Lou Decruss wrote:

It really wasn't that long ago. *I remember Kili saying they were
paying almost 7 bucks a gallon maybe two years ago. *Aldi just raised
their price to $1.79 from $1.49.


That's much lower than it is here (STL); the Aldi flyer that came in today's
mail priced whole milk at $2.40/gallon and $2.14/gallon for skim.

Large eggs were $.79/doz today, 40% cream is $1.59/pint and they have
3# bags of apples for $1.19. I love Aldi.

Low grocery prices are a joy.

--Bryan
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Lou Decruss wrote:

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:04:41 -0600, "Gregory Morrow"
wrote:

Lou Decruss wrote:

I find this disturbing. I can't believe there isn't another way to
deal with it. Government cheese for all?



Remember a whiles back when peeps were crying about the price of a
gallon of milk, seems like ages ago now. Dairy products are now
about as cheap as I've ever seen them...


It really wasn't that long ago. I remember Kili saying they were
paying almost 7 bucks a gallon maybe two years ago. Aldi just raised
their price to $1.79 from $1.49. I see Valli produce out in the burbs
has Dean's for $1.99. Dean's is almost never on sale. Wisconsin
cheeses are dirt cheap too. They've got a Wisconsin American on sale
for $1.99. So you can get real cheese cheaper that than Kraft
singles. I can't complain about the cheap prices but something has to
give.



Yup, I can't remember paying over two bux/gallon for milk for at least a
year now, and cheese went from being a special treat to a daily
staple...yogurt prices way down, too. I rarely eat ice cream so I don't
know those prices...eggs I've seen for as low as 57 cents per dozen.



Will the increased cow supply mean cheaper beef, or...???


I'm sure in the short term it will.



Beef has been fairly reasonable, and pork has been downright cheap. I've
got my freezer compartment filled with various hunks of pork. Last night I
made some pulled pork bbq in the slow cooker...tonight after "resting" it'll
be ready for "take - off"...!!!

Even JEWEL has had some decent sales on pork, who knew...!!!???

I think I've mentioned that once per month I hit Restaurant Depot, the
to-the-trade wholesale place out by Chicago and Elston (the owner of my
corner gin mill has a business license and so she has a membership). Last
time I was eyeing a 15 lb. hunk of pork roast @ like 79 cents/lb, but I
laffed and said to my friend, "But I already HAVE my freezer compartment
stuffed to the gills...".

Here is their October flyer. it's a pdf that loads pretty quick:

http://www.restaurantbyclick.com/rd/...ose_island.pdf


I'm not complaining about reasonable prices, that's fer sure...

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Old 28-10-2009, 12:52 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Lou Decruss wrote:

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:04:41 -0600, "Gregory Morrow"
wrote:

Lou Decruss wrote:

I find this disturbing. I can't believe there isn't another way to
deal with it. Government cheese for all?



Remember a whiles back when peeps were crying about the price of a gallon of
milk, seems like ages ago now. Dairy products are now about as cheap as
I've ever seen them...


It really wasn't that long ago. I remember Kili saying they were
paying almost 7 bucks a gallon maybe two years ago. Aldi just raised
their price to $1.79 from $1.49. I see Valli produce out in the burbs
has Dean's for $1.99. Dean's is almost never on sale. Wisconsin
cheeses are dirt cheap too. They've got a Wisconsin American on sale
for $1.99. So you can get real cheese cheaper that than Kraft
singles. I can't complain about the cheap prices but something has to
give.

Will the increased cow supply mean cheaper beef, or...???


I'm sure in the short term it will.

Lou


I was at Aldi yesterday, and their milk has gone down from $1.79/gal to
$1.55/gal. Prior the the brief price increase to $1.79, Aldi had milk
at $1.49/gal for the longest time. Alas, I did not notice the current
price at the IGA.

Sky

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Lou Decruss wrote:

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:04:41 -0600, "Gregory Morrow"

Will the increased cow supply mean cheaper beef, or...???


I'm sure in the short term it will.


I wonder how it will impact the price of mushrooms?
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Old 28-10-2009, 02:03 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:35:23 GMT, "l, not -l" wrote:


On 27-Oct-2009, Lou Decruss wrote:

It really wasn't that long ago. I remember Kili saying they were
paying almost 7 bucks a gallon maybe two years ago. Aldi just raised
their price to $1.79 from $1.49.


That's much lower than it is here (STL); the Aldi flyer that came in today's
mail priced whole milk at $2.40/gallon and $2.14/gallon for skim.


This is all types. I wonder why the difference? We're only like 5
hours apart.

Lou
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:39:04 -0600, "Gregory Morrow"
wrote:

Lou Decruss wrote:

It really wasn't that long ago. I remember Kili saying they were
paying almost 7 bucks a gallon maybe two years ago. Aldi just raised
their price to $1.79 from $1.49. I see Valli produce out in the burbs
has Dean's for $1.99. Dean's is almost never on sale. Wisconsin
cheeses are dirt cheap too. They've got a Wisconsin American on sale
for $1.99. So you can get real cheese cheaper that than Kraft
singles. I can't complain about the cheap prices but something has to
give.



Yup, I can't remember paying over two bux/gallon for milk for at least a
year now, and cheese went from being a special treat to a daily
staple...yogurt prices way down, too.


Cheese has always been a staple as we both love damn near any kind.
But I'm sure we eat a lot more when it's so cheap.

I rarely eat ice cream so I don't
know those prices...eggs I've seen for as low as 57 cents per dozen.


Valli produce has a coupon for $.29 a dozen but it's limit one.

Beef has been fairly reasonable, and pork has been downright cheap. I've
got my freezer compartment filled with various hunks of pork. Last night I
made some pulled pork bbq in the slow cooker...tonight after "resting" it'll
be ready for "take - off"...!!!


I just got a fresh ham for $.99 a pound. I'm thinking about trying to
make sausage for the first time.

Even JEWEL has had some decent sales on pork, who knew...!!!???


Jewel needed to lower at least some of their prices or they were going
down.

I think I've mentioned that once per month I hit Restaurant Depot, the
to-the-trade wholesale place out by Chicago and Elston (the owner of my
corner gin mill has a business license and so she has a membership). Last
time I was eyeing a 15 lb. hunk of pork roast @ like 79 cents/lb, but I
laffed and said to my friend, "But I already HAVE my freezer compartment
stuffed to the gills...".

Here is their October flyer. it's a pdf that loads pretty quick:

http://www.restaurantbyclick.com/rd/...ose_island.pdf


I'd get in trouble there! I see they've got manchego cheese. It's
hard to find usually. I like it for the Fig And Walnut Tapenade I
make when I can get it. Otherwise I use Kefalograviera.

I'm not complaining about reasonable prices, that's fer sure...


Me needer!

Lou
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Lou Decruss wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:35:23 GMT, "l, not -l" wrote:

On 27-Oct-2009, Lou Decruss wrote:

It really wasn't that long ago. I remember Kili saying they were
paying almost 7 bucks a gallon maybe two years ago. Aldi just raised
their price to $1.79 from $1.49.

That's much lower than it is here (STL); the Aldi flyer that came in today's
mail priced whole milk at $2.40/gallon and $2.14/gallon for skim.


This is all types. I wonder why the difference? We're only like 5
hours apart.

Lou



My local Albertson's has half gallons of their own branded milk
for $.50 this week, full fat and all of the other fat levels.
I was so surprised that I checked for expiration dates. All were
at least 7-10 days.

gloria p


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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:37:53 -0500, Lou Decruss wrote:

I find this disturbing. I can't believe there isn't another way to
deal with it. Government cheese for all?

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...IVvfwD9BJ9LA82

Lou

DES MOINES, Iowa — A milk glut has dairy farmers across the U.S.
killing hundreds of thousands of cows to try to reduce the milk supply
and boost prices.

More than 225,000 cows have been killed this year through a program
run by the National Milk Producers Federation. It pays farmers going
out of business to slaughter their cows, rather than sell them to
someone else. Agriculture experts say another 55,000 cows are being
killed each week outside the program.


yikes! i wonder where the meat is going.

your pal,
blake
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:03:17 -0500, Lou Decruss wrote:

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:35:23 GMT, "l, not -l" wrote:


On 27-Oct-2009, Lou Decruss wrote:

It really wasn't that long ago. I remember Kili saying they were
paying almost 7 bucks a gallon maybe two years ago. Aldi just raised
their price to $1.79 from $1.49.


That's much lower than it is here (STL); the Aldi flyer that came in today's
mail priced whole milk at $2.40/gallon and $2.14/gallon for skim.


This is all types. I wonder why the difference? We're only like 5
hours apart.

Lou


beats the hell out of me. tell me why you pay less for chicken when i'm
probably closer to the chicken's homeland.

your pal,
blake
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:02:18 -0400, blake murphy
wrote:

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:03:17 -0500, Lou Decruss wrote:

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:35:23 GMT, "l, not -l" wrote:


On 27-Oct-2009, Lou Decruss wrote:

It really wasn't that long ago. I remember Kili saying they were
paying almost 7 bucks a gallon maybe two years ago. Aldi just raised
their price to $1.79 from $1.49.

That's much lower than it is here (STL); the Aldi flyer that came in today's
mail priced whole milk at $2.40/gallon and $2.14/gallon for skim.


This is all types. I wonder why the difference? We're only like 5
hours apart.

Lou


beats the hell out of me. tell me why you pay less for chicken when i'm
probably closer to the chicken's homeland.


Let's ask andy. He'll know.

Lou
 




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