On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:22:28 -0400, "Cheryl"
wrote:

Same here. The company I work for was mailing our pay stubs (direct
deposit) but I was so happy that after a couple of months of doing that they
went all electronic with pay stubs. Not only is it a worry someone will
steal your mail, but my mailman is notorious for mixing up our neighborhood
mail Nothing with PII other than just my name and address is delivered by
mail anymore.

Huh. I haven't even thought about mail theft in years.


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I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:29:42 -0500, Janet Wilder
wrote:

Eddy wrote:
snip
I'm getting a locking mailbox.

How does the mailman put the mail into it if it is locked?

Probably the same way your gardener gets into the backyard through a
locked fence.

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I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

sf wrote:


Huh. I haven't even thought about mail theft in years.



When we lived in RI in the early 80s there were two brothers in
the neighborhood, ages 4 and 6 or thereabouts, who would break
into the cluster boxes we had. They'd tear up the mail and throw
it around on the street. When a postal inspector visited their
house, Idiot Mother's response was "Well, what do you want ME to
do about it. Lock them up, why don't you."

Yet another reason we were not too sorry to leave what had once
been an idyllic neighborhood when the chance to move to Colorado
presented itself.

gloria p

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:14:56 -0600, "gloria.p"
wrote:

sf wrote:


Huh. I haven't even thought about mail theft in years.



When we lived in RI in the early 80s there were two brothers in
the neighborhood, ages 4 and 6 or thereabouts, who would break
into the cluster boxes we had. They'd tear up the mail and throw
it around on the street. When a postal inspector visited their
house, Idiot Mother's response was "Well, what do you want ME to
do about it. Lock them up, why don't you."

Yet another reason we were not too sorry to leave what had once
been an idyllic neighborhood when the chance to move to Colorado
presented itself.

I'm surprised child protective services wasn't called. There is more
than one way to neglect a child.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"sf" wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:29:42 -0500, Janet Wilder
wrote:

Eddy wrote:
snip
I'm getting a locking mailbox.

How does the mailman put the mail into it if it is locked?

Probably the same way your gardener gets into the backyard through a
locked fence.

Climbs over the mailbox???

On Oct 28, 4:14*am, "gloria.p" wrote:
sf wrote:

Huh. *I haven't even thought about mail theft in years.

When we lived in RI in the early 80s there were two brothers in
the neighborhood, ages 4 and 6 or thereabouts, who would break
into the cluster boxes we had. *They'd tear up the mail and throw
it around on the street. *When a postal inspector visited their
house, Idiot Mother's response was *"Well, what do you want ME to
do about it. *Lock them up, why don't you."

Yet another reason we were not too sorry to leave what had once
been an idyllic neighborhood when the chance to move to Colorado
presented itself.

gloria p

What on earth was she doing letting children that age out to play
unsupervised?

This is the sort of mother who would then be looking for someone to
blame for everything else.

JB

"ViLco" ha scritto nel messaggio

How does the mailman put the mail into it if it is locked?

There is a slot in the top to drop the mail in. To get the mail out,
you need a key to open it.

It's always been like that in Italy. We have too many assholes around

And some of them work for the postal services. My Christmas and birthday
gifts get opened and rifled. I get what they didn't want, or often I get
nothing. If I ever receive a package whole, they require that I pay customs
on it, even though the law says I can receive a certain amount of gifts from
family and friends. Last Christmas I refused my gifts because they wanted
80 euro in fees for the two packages of odds and ends. Some things in the
packages from my friend who loves charity shops were used!

"Giusi" wrote in message
...

"ViLco" ha scritto nel messaggio

How does the mailman put the mail into it if it is locked?

There is a slot in the top to drop the mail in. To get the mail out,
you need a key to open it.

It's always been like that in Italy. We have too many assholes around

And some of them work for the postal services. My Christmas and birthday
gifts get opened and rifled. I get what they didn't want, or often I get
nothing. If I ever receive a package whole, they require that I pay
customs on it, even though the law says I can receive a certain amount of
gifts from family and friends. Last Christmas I refused my gifts because
they wanted 80 euro in fees for the two packages of odds and ends. Some
things in the packages from my friend who loves charity shops were used!

That is dreadful!!!! I had no idea

Giusi wrote:
"ViLco" ha scritto nel messaggio

How does the mailman put the mail into it if it is locked?
There is a slot in the top to drop the mail in. To get the mail out,
you need a key to open it.
It's always been like that in Italy. We have too many assholes around

And some of them work for the postal services. My Christmas and birthday
gifts get opened and rifled. I get what they didn't want, or often I get
nothing. If I ever receive a package whole, they require that I pay customs
on it, even though the law says I can receive a certain amount of gifts from
family and friends. Last Christmas I refused my gifts because they wanted
80 euro in fees for the two packages of odds and ends. Some things in the
packages from my friend who loves charity shops were used!



Is that the country sponsored mail system only? Or does UPS type
companies handle things the same way?

Just curious.

Bob

"Bob Muncie" ha scritto nel messaggio
Giusi wrote:
"ViLco" ha scritto nel messaggio

How does the mailman put the mail into it if it is locked?
There is a slot in the top to drop the mail in. To get the mail out,
you need a key to open it.

It's always been like that in Italy. We have too many assholes around

And some of them work for the postal services. My Christmas and birthday
gifts get opened and rifled. I get what they didn't want, or often I
get nothing. If I ever receive a package whole, they require that I
pay customs on it, even though the law says I can receive a certain
amount of gifts from family and friends. Last Christmas I refused my
gifts because they wanted 80 euro in fees for the two packages of odds
and ends. Some things in the packages from my friend who loves
charity shops were used!

Is that the country sponsored mail system only? Or does UPS type
companies handle things the same way?

Just curious.

No change to customs fees, of course. Customs, dogana, charges for
inspecting, for postage on to the recipient from them and always IVA or VAT
on the shipping and the value.

The difference is that UPS FedEx, etc. usually aren't rifled, but some years
back a small packet to my kid which would have cost euro 3.90 to send, cost
euro 45 to send via UPS.

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:49:15 +0100, "Giusi"
wrote:

And some of them work for the postal services. My Christmas and birthday
gifts get opened and rifled. I get what they didn't want, or often I get
nothing. If I ever receive a package whole, they require that I pay customs
on it, even though the law says I can receive a certain amount of gifts from
family and friends. Last Christmas I refused my gifts because they wanted
80 euro in fees for the two packages of odds and ends. Some things in the
packages from my friend who loves charity shops were used!

I heard a story about wine being shipped in the US via UPS or one of
those other non US postal companies. Apparently someone didn't
approve of this. The box was opened, bottles emptied and the package
was resealed. Fortunately, they picked the package up at the office
and noticed how light it was. The supervisor had a suspect in mind
immediately. I guess there had been problems before.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"Ophelia" wrote
That is dreadful!!!! I had no idea

It really is terrible.

Golden One wrote:
On Oct 28, 4:14 am, "gloria.p" wrote:
sf wrote:

Huh. I haven't even thought about mail theft in years.
When we lived in RI in the early 80s there were two brothers in
the neighborhood, ages 4 and 6 or thereabouts, who would break
into the cluster boxes we had. They'd tear up the mail and throw
it around on the street. When a postal inspector visited their
house, Idiot Mother's response was "Well, what do you want ME to
do about it. Lock them up, why don't you."


What on earth was she doing letting children that age out to play
unsupervised?

This is the sort of mother who would then be looking for someone to
blame for everything else.

JB

Pretty much. The neighborhood of 50 houses fronted onto a
two-lane country highway. Once you got beyond the
front houses, it was an ideal neighborhood for kids to play.
Surrounding the neighborhood on three sides were fields and
woods. Most of the families were friends and we looked out
for one another's kids.

The mother mentioned was overwhelmed and not the brightest bulb
in the chandelier. We tried to keep an eye on their younger boys
but it was hard because they evidently had no rules or structure
in their house. They ate lunch with us occasionally, other times
I'd see one or the other immediately after the kindergarten bus
dropped off the neighborhood kids. Everyone else would be getting
ready for lunch. They'd be wandering around, eating out of a big
box of Cheerios or a bag of chips.

This was in the mid-late 70s and early 80s. There was always one
"L." kid or other in trouble at school or with the law. Child
Protective Services had their hands full with the cities. Us
rural folk and our kids were on our own.

gloria p

"sf" wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:49:15 +0100, "Giusi"
wrote:

And some of them work for the postal services. My Christmas and birthday
gifts get opened and rifled. I get what they didn't want, or often I get
nothing. If I ever receive a package whole, they require that I pay
customs
on it, even though the law says I can receive a certain amount of gifts
from
family and friends. Last Christmas I refused my gifts because they wanted
80 euro in fees for the two packages of odds and ends. Some things in the
packages from my friend who loves charity shops were used!

I heard a story about wine being shipped in the US via UPS or one of
those other non US postal companies. Apparently someone didn't
approve of this. The box was opened, bottles emptied and the package
was resealed. Fortunately, they picked the package up at the office
and noticed how light it was. The supervisor had a suspect in mind
immediately. I guess there had been problems before.

A few years ago, a friend in Scotland sent smoked salmon to a few of us. One
out of four received it. The gentleman in Tuscany where we stayed will no
longer try to send his olive oil in the mail. It rarely is ever received.

Many years ago I worked in a grocery store while in high school. The owner
bought Polish canned hams packed 6 cans to a wood crate. It was not
uncommon to get five cans of ham and a rock.

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:58:39 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
wrote:


"sf" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:49:15 +0100, "Giusi"
wrote:

And some of them work for the postal services. My Christmas and birthday
gifts get opened and rifled. I get what they didn't want, or often I get
nothing. If I ever receive a package whole, they require that I pay
customs
on it, even though the law says I can receive a certain amount of gifts
from
family and friends. Last Christmas I refused my gifts because they wanted
80 euro in fees for the two packages of odds and ends. Some things in the
packages from my friend who loves charity shops were used!

I heard a story about wine being shipped in the US via UPS or one of
those other non US postal companies. Apparently someone didn't
approve of this. The box was opened, bottles emptied and the package
was resealed. Fortunately, they picked the package up at the office
and noticed how light it was. The supervisor had a suspect in mind
immediately. I guess there had been problems before.

A few years ago, a friend in Scotland sent smoked salmon to a few of us. One
out of four received it. The gentleman in Tuscany where we stayed will no
longer try to send his olive oil in the mail. It rarely is ever received.

Many years ago I worked in a grocery store while in high school. The owner
bought Polish canned hams packed 6 cans to a wood crate. It was not
uncommon to get five cans of ham and a rock.

Makes you appreciate that as imperfect as it is, the system we have is
better than most!

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.