While not everybody has to face this, some of us do.

Caring for elderly parents.

Cooking for them can be a rewarding chore but still difficult,
especially when you are trying to make sure they get all the "things"
they need in their diet and it's up to them to eat it.

I just purchased 3 large containers of Vionate (Jefferspets.com) to add
to dad's food as I cannot always trust him to take his supplements, (he
has memory issues), and he does not eat enough any more to eat what I'd
consider to be a balanced diet. Vionate is a complete vitamin/mineral
powder and there are amounts listed on the container for anything from
baby chickens to chimpanzees.

We are, after all, primates. <g>

The only problem with it is it tends to add a slightly gritty texture
due to the mineral content. I'm eating some of the crab and cheese
omelet I just made for dad to test it out. It's not bad.

Only time will tell...

It's well hidden in scrambled eggs and meatloaf type items.
--
Peace! Om

"He who has the gold makes the rules"
--Om

"He who has the guns can get the gold."
-- Steve Rothstein

Omelet wrote:
> While not everybody has to face this, some of us do.
>
> Caring for elderly parents.
>
> Cooking for them can be a rewarding chore but still difficult,
> especially when you are trying to make sure they get all the "things"
> they need in their diet and it's up to them to eat it.
>
> I just purchased 3 large containers of Vionate (Jefferspets.com) to add
> to dad's food as I cannot always trust him to take his supplements, (he
> has memory issues), and he does not eat enough any more to eat what I'd
> consider to be a balanced diet. Vionate is a complete vitamin/mineral
> powder and there are amounts listed on the container for anything from
> baby chickens to chimpanzees.

I think you can do better and for a lot less cost buying the Nestle
suppliments... and add it to interesting great tasting smoothies.
Horlicks is good too, and Ovaltine.

http://www.nestlenutritionstore.com/... IWFQod3SdALw

> We are, after all, primates. <g>

Hey, I resemble that remark. LOL

Sheldon wrote:
> I think you can do better and for a lot less cost buying the Nestle
> suppliments... and add it to interesting great tasting smoothies.
> Horlicks is good too, and Ovaltine.
>
I thought for a while all the medical personnel coming over owned stock in
Ensure or Boost. Everyone kept asking does she drink it? No, she doesn't
like it. Funny, when I said she drinks Instant Breakfast every day they all
said "OH! okay, that's good!" Yes, it's fine. Add a little malted milk
powder... yum!

Jill

Omelet wrote:
> While not everybody has to face this, some of us do.
>
> Caring for elderly parents.
>
Thanks for thinking of me!

Jill

On Oct 18, 12:13�pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
> > I think you can do better and for a lot less cost buying the Nestle
> > suppliments... and add it to interesting great tasting smoothies.
> > Horlicks is good too, and Ovaltine.
>
> I thought for a while all the medical personnel coming over owned stock in
> Ensure or Boost. �Everyone kept asking does she drink it? No, she doesn't
> like it. �Funny, when I said she drinks Instant Breakfast every day they all
> said "OH! okay, that's good!" �Yes, it's fine. �Add a little malted milk
> powder... yum!
>
> Jill

Ensure and Boost are very expensive and not at all satisfying. And
any soppliment purchased from a Nutrition Center Store is going to be
way over priced. Carnation and Nestle breakfast powder is available
from any ordinary stupidmarket, they are excellent products at very
reasonable prices. Add a couple Tlbs to fresh fruit smoothies,
there's a zillion combos... and I like to spike mine with a glug or
two of rum.

"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> While not everybody has to face this, some of us do.
>
> Caring for elderly parents.
>
> Cooking for them can be a rewarding chore but still difficult,
> especially when you are trying to make sure they get all the "things"
> they need in their diet and it's up to them to eat it.
>
> I just purchased 3 large containers of Vionate (Jefferspets.com) to add
> to dad's food as I cannot always trust him to take his supplements, (he
> has memory issues), and he does not eat enough any more to eat what I'd
> consider to be a balanced diet. Vionate is a complete vitamin/mineral
> powder and there are amounts listed on the container for anything from
> baby chickens to chimpanzees.
>
> We are, after all, primates. <g>
>
> The only problem with it is it tends to add a slightly gritty texture
> due to the mineral content. I'm eating some of the crab and cheese
> omelet I just made for dad to test it out. It's not bad.
>
> Only time will tell...
>
> It's well hidden in scrambled eggs and meatloaf type items.
> --
> Peace! Om
>
> "He who has the gold makes the rules"
> --Om
>
> "He who has the guns can get the gold."
> -- Steve Rothstein



Are we artificially prolonging what god and man used to call NATURAL CAUSES
for our benefit or theirs?

Who are we helping our elderly or ourselves because we find it hard to let
go?

The doctors keep their lives going in the same way as DuPont - "Better
living through chemistry".

2 to 20 pills a day and we wonder why they forget or can not be trusted.

What the is wrong with living on peanut butter and toast if that is what
they want? So they only poop once a week. Now we watch them sit in their
chairs with MSNBC or CNN Or FOX and nod off after breakfast, lunch and
dinner for hours at a time. We complain they are acting more and more like
children that need to be taken care of. The more we cater to them the more
care they need.

I'll give you an example - after a while of fixing all 3 meals she said "I
think I would like a piece of toast with some cheese. Great, "do you want to
get it we said? her answer, "it's been so long I don't know if I remember
how the toaster works"


And the hits keep on coming.

Dimitri

jmcquown wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
>> I think you can do better and for a lot less cost buying the Nestle
>> suppliments... and add it to interesting great tasting smoothies.
>> Horlicks is good too, and Ovaltine.
>>
> I thought for a while all the medical personnel coming over owned
> stock in Ensure or Boost. Everyone kept asking does she drink it?
> No, she doesn't like it. Funny, when I said she drinks Instant
> Breakfast every day they all said "OH! okay, that's good!" Yes, it's
> fine. Add a little malted milk powder... yum!
>
> Jill

Oh, Jill, thank you, I think I'll do something like that! Where do you get
the malted milk powder? I've never seen it, but I've never looked for it.

kili

Sheldon wrote:
> On Oct 18, 12:13?pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>> Sheldon wrote:
>>> I think you can do better and for a lot less cost buying the Nestle
>>> suppliments... and add it to interesting great tasting smoothies.
>>> Horlicks is good too, and Ovaltine.
>>
>> I thought for a while all the medical personnel coming over owned
>> stock in Ensure or Boost. ?Everyone kept asking does she drink it?
>> No, she doesn't like it. ?Funny, when I said she drinks Instant
>> Breakfast every day they all said "OH! okay, that's good!" ?Yes,
>> it's fine. ?Add a little malted milk powder... yum!
>>
>> Jill
>
> Ensure and Boost are very expensive and not at all satisfying. And
> any soppliment purchased from a Nutrition Center Store is going to be
> way over priced. Carnation and Nestle breakfast powder is available
> from any ordinary stupidmarket, they are excellent products at very
> reasonable prices. Add a couple Tlbs to fresh fruit smoothies,
> there's a zillion combos... and I like to spike mine with a glug or
> two of rum.

Ensure is definitely overrated. Ugh, disgusting stuff. I'll try Carnation
or Nestle. Do you just add water?

kili

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:36:47 -0400, "kilikini"
> wrote:

>Where do you get
>the malted milk powder? I've never seen it, but I've never looked for it.

I've never liked malted anything, but when I used to notice the
powder.... it was on the same shelf as powdered chocolate for milk.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

sf wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:36:47 -0400, "kilikini"
> > wrote:
>
>> Where do you get
>> the malted milk powder? I've never seen it, but I've never looked
>> for it.
>
> I've never liked malted anything, but when I used to notice the
> powder.... it was on the same shelf as powdered chocolate for milk.

Thanks, sf. I'm going to try this. It actually sounds good.

kili

On Oct 18, 3:21 pm, "kilikini" > wrote:
> sf wrote:
> > On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:36:47 -0400, "kilikini"
> > > wrote:
>
> >> Where do you get
> >> the malted milk powder? I've never seen it, but I've never looked
> >> for it.
>
> > I've never liked malted anything, but when I used to notice the
> > powder.... it was on the same shelf as powdered chocolate for milk.
>
> Thanks, sf. I'm going to try this. It actually sounds good.
>
> kili

The other thing about Ensure-type drinks is that they can pass through
the system really quick. Not good if there is a diahreah or
dehydration issue.

Talked to a dietician or nutritionist ( I forget her title) about my
parents' diet. They are both pushing 90. The health care
professional said to give them what they want to eat, better than
trying to force them to eat what they don't want.

Well, OK. Except that Dad would be content with oatmeal every meal
and Mom would choose to live on Snickers and potato chips.

So, I trick them. I make soup with more an eye to nutrition than
fancy flavor, usually garnish with some sour cream. The apple pie
usually has a banana and maybe powdered milk mixed in.

The dietritionist also said that if they don't eat much, some
occasioinal fried food isn't bad - they can use the extra oil.

Of course, with a multivitamin and this other pile o' meds.

Do ya'll know about caregivers.org? They've got a mailing list that
has been very helpful to me.

Good luck.

bulka

kilikini wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
>> On Oct 18, 12:13?pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>>> Sheldon wrote:
>>>> I think you can do better and for a lot less cost buying the Nestle
>>>> suppliments... and add it to interesting great tasting smoothies.
>>>> Horlicks is good too, and Ovaltine.
>>>
>>> I thought for a while all the medical personnel coming over owned
>>> stock in Ensure or Boost. ?Everyone kept asking does she drink it?
>>> No, she doesn't like it. ?Funny, when I said she drinks Instant
>>> Breakfast every day they all said "OH! okay, that's good!" ?Yes,
>>> it's fine. ?Add a little malted milk powder... yum!
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Ensure and Boost are very expensive and not at all satisfying. And
>> any soppliment purchased from a Nutrition Center Store is going to be
>> way over priced. Carnation and Nestle breakfast powder is available
>> from any ordinary stupidmarket, they are excellent products at very
>> reasonable prices. Add a couple Tlbs to fresh fruit smoothies,
>> there's a zillion combos... and I like to spike mine with a glug or
>> two of rum.
>
> Ensure is definitely overrated. Ugh, disgusting stuff. I'll try
> Carnation or Nestle. Do you just add water?
>
> kili

Milk. Ice cream & milk if you want to make a milkshake.

Jill

sf wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:36:47 -0400, "kilikini"
> > wrote:
>
>> Where do you get
>> the malted milk powder? I've never seen it, but I've never looked
>> for it.
>
> I've never liked malted anything, but when I used to notice the
> powder.... it was on the same shelf as powdered chocolate for milk.

At Mom's grocery store it's on the same aisle with the Nestle chocolate milk
powder.

Jill

Dimitri wrote:
> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
>> While not everybody has to face this, some of us do.
>>
>> Caring for elderly parents.
>>
>> Cooking for them can be a rewarding chore but still difficult,
>> especially when you are trying to make sure they get all the "things"
>> they need in their diet and it's up to them to eat it.
>>
> Are we artificially prolonging what god and man used to call NATURAL
> CAUSES for our benefit or theirs?
>
I think you know how I feel about people pushing religion. The physical
therapist (PT) marched in and almost immediately asked what church we go to.
Excuse me? It has absolutely nothing to do with her medical care. (And yes
I reported her to the agency who is sending people to the house.) It's none
of their friggin business.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> kilikini wrote:
>> Sheldon wrote:
>>> On Oct 18, 12:13?pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>>>> Sheldon wrote:
>>>>> I think you can do better and for a lot less cost buying the
>>>>> Nestle suppliments... and add it to interesting great tasting
>>>>> smoothies. Horlicks is good too, and Ovaltine.
>>>>
>>>> I thought for a while all the medical personnel coming over owned
>>>> stock in Ensure or Boost. ?Everyone kept asking does she drink it?
>>>> No, she doesn't like it. ?Funny, when I said she drinks Instant
>>>> Breakfast every day they all said "OH! okay, that's good!" ?Yes,
>>>> it's fine. ?Add a little malted milk powder... yum!
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Ensure and Boost are very expensive and not at all satisfying. And
>>> any soppliment purchased from a Nutrition Center Store is going to
>>> be way over priced. Carnation and Nestle breakfast powder is
>>> available from any ordinary stupidmarket, they are excellent
>>> products at very reasonable prices. Add a couple Tlbs to fresh
>>> fruit smoothies, there's a zillion combos... and I like to spike
>>> mine with a glug or two of rum.
>>
>> Ensure is definitely overrated. Ugh, disgusting stuff. I'll try
>> Carnation or Nestle. Do you just add water?
>>
>> kili
>
> Milk. Ice cream & milk if you want to make a milkshake.
>
> Jill

Good to know, thanks, Jill!

kili

kilikini wrote:
> sf wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:36:47 -0400, "kilikini"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Where do you get
>>> the malted milk powder? I've never seen it, but I've never looked
>>> for it.
>> I've never liked malted anything, but when I used to notice the
>> powder.... it was on the same shelf as powdered chocolate for milk.
>
> Thanks, sf. I'm going to try this. It actually sounds good.
>
> kili
>
>
The brand I use is Carnation, comes in chocolate or vanilla IIRC. Too
lazy to go look at the label in the pantry. We still like malts, being
teens in the fifties.

Omelet wrote:
> While not everybody has to face this, some of us do.
>
> Caring for elderly parents.
>
> Cooking for them can be a rewarding chore but still difficult,
> especially when you are trying to make sure they get all the "things"
> they need in their diet and it's up to them to eat it.
>
> I just purchased 3 large containers of Vionate (Jefferspets.com) to add
> to dad's food as I cannot always trust him to take his supplements,

>
> The only problem with it is it tends to add a slightly gritty texture
> due to the mineral content. I'm eating some of the crab and cheese
> omelet I just made for dad to test it out. It's not bad.
>
> Only time will tell...
>
> It's well hidden in scrambled eggs and meatloaf type items.

How about in bread or muffins? Brownies? I.E. something that's
FUN to eat.

gloria p

Gloria P wrote:
> Omelet wrote:
>> While not everybody has to face this, some of us do.
>>
>> Caring for elderly parents.
>>
>> Cooking for them can be a rewarding chore but still difficult,
>> especially when you are trying to make sure they get all the "things"
>> they need in their diet and it's up to them to eat it.
>>
>> I just purchased 3 large containers of Vionate (Jefferspets.com) to
>> add to dad's food as I cannot always trust him to take his
>> supplements,
>
>>
>> The only problem with it is it tends to add a slightly gritty texture
>> due to the mineral content. I'm eating some of the crab and cheese
>> omelet I just made for dad to test it out. It's not bad.
>>
>> Only time will tell...
>>
>> It's well hidden in scrambled eggs and meatloaf type items.
>
> How about in bread or muffins? Brownies? I.E. something that's
> FUN to eat.
>
> gloria p

She loves ice cream; just had a couple of scoops with butterscotch topping


Jill

In article >,
Gloria P > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > While not everybody has to face this, some of us do.
> >
> > Caring for elderly parents.
> >
> > Cooking for them can be a rewarding chore but still difficult,
> > especially when you are trying to make sure they get all the "things"
> > they need in their diet and it's up to them to eat it.
> >
> > I just purchased 3 large containers of Vionate (Jefferspets.com) to add
> > to dad's food as I cannot always trust him to take his supplements,
>
> >
> > The only problem with it is it tends to add a slightly gritty texture
> > due to the mineral content. I'm eating some of the crab and cheese
> > omelet I just made for dad to test it out. It's not bad.
> >
> > Only time will tell...
> >
> > It's well hidden in scrambled eggs and meatloaf type items.
>
> How about in bread or muffins? Brownies? I.E. something that's
> FUN to eat.
>
> gloria p

Might work for some, but dad prefers high protein. His favorite food is
Omelets and/or scrambled eggs. :-)
--
Peace! Om

"He who has the gold makes the rules"
--Om

"He who has the guns can get the gold."
-- Steve Rothstein

"kilikini" > wrote in message
...

:
>>> Ensure is definitely overrated. Ugh, disgusting stuff. I'll try
>>> Carnation or Nestle. Do you just add water?

>> Milk. Ice cream & milk if you want to make a milkshake.

> Good to know, thanks, Jill!

I found the milk chocolate Ensure pretty tasty when I was recovering from
pneumonia and had no appetite. Now I keep it on hand for a quick breakfast!

Felice

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> Gloria P wrote:
> > Omelet wrote:
> >> While not everybody has to face this, some of us do.
> >>
> >> Caring for elderly parents.
> >>
> >> Cooking for them can be a rewarding chore but still difficult,
> >> especially when you are trying to make sure they get all the "things"
> >> they need in their diet and it's up to them to eat it.
> >>
> >> I just purchased 3 large containers of Vionate (Jefferspets.com) to
> >> add to dad's food as I cannot always trust him to take his
> >> supplements,
> >
> >>
> >> The only problem with it is it tends to add a slightly gritty texture
> >> due to the mineral content. I'm eating some of the crab and cheese
> >> omelet I just made for dad to test it out. It's not bad.
> >>
> >> Only time will tell...
> >>
> >> It's well hidden in scrambled eggs and meatloaf type items.
> >
> > How about in bread or muffins? Brownies? I.E. something that's
> > FUN to eat.
> >
> > gloria p
>
> She loves ice cream; just had a couple of scoops with butterscotch topping
>
>
> Jill

Vionate might work in the topping if you added nuts. <g>
--
Peace! Om

"He who has the gold makes the rules"
--Om

"He who has the guns can get the gold."
-- Steve Rothstein

On Oct 18, 2:38�pm, "kilikini" > wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
> > On Oct 18, 12:13?pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> >> Sheldon wrote:
> >>> I think you can do better and for a lot less cost buying the Nestle
> >>> suppliments... and add it to interesting great tasting smoothies.
> >>> Horlicks is good too, and Ovaltine.
>
> >> I thought for a while all the medical personnel coming over owned
> >> stock in Ensure or Boost. ?Everyone kept asking does she drink it?
> >> No, she doesn't like it. ?Funny, when I said she drinks Instant
> >> Breakfast every day they all said "OH! okay, that's good!" ?Yes,
> >> it's fine. ?Add a little malted milk powder... yum!
>
> >> Jill
>
> > Ensure and Boost are very expensive and not at all satisfying. �And
> > any soppliment purchased from a Nutrition Center Store is going to be
> > way over priced. �Carnation and Nestle breakfast powder is available
> > from any ordinary stupidmarket, they are excellent products at very
> > reasonable prices. �Add a couple Tlbs to fresh fruit smoothies,
> > there's a zillion combos... and I like to spike mine with a glug or
> > two of rum.
>
> Ensure is definitely overrated. �Ugh, disgusting stuff. �I'll try Carnation
> or Nestle. �Do you just add water?


Only water I ever add is ice... use your imgination... any fresh
fruit; banana, melon, pineapple, citrus, berries, ice cream and rum...
a big spoonful of coco lopez makes it perfection. Make chocolate
smoothies too, all kinds, with toasted nuts, chocolate, cherry,
orange, coffee, whatever. The combo of chocolate and pineapple is
sexcellent, it's called a "Hoboken".

jmcquown wrote:
>
> Sheldon wrote:
> > I think you can do better and for a lot less cost buying the Nestle
> > suppliments... and add it to interesting great tasting smoothies.
> > Horlicks is good too, and Ovaltine.
> >
> I thought for a while all the medical personnel coming over owned stock in
> Ensure or Boost. Everyone kept asking does she drink it? No, she doesn't
> like it. Funny, when I said she drinks Instant Breakfast every day they all
> said "OH! okay, that's good!" Yes, it's fine. Add a little malted milk
> powder... yum!
>
> Jill

Every time my (underweight) mother is in hospital, they try to give her
something like Ensure. She tried it once and spit it out, as did I LOL.
It's nasty stuff (as is Pediasure) stuffed full of artificial
flavourings.

When I make bread, a little oil is added, although would prefer true
French-type white bread. Home-made custard-base ice cream and various
milk puddings (bread, rice, semolina etc) go down well. We make
gelatines which at least contain some protein to make up for the
artificial colours and flavours. Couldn't convince her to eat flavoured
Knox gelatine

Now working on trying to make various cakes/pastries more nutritious!
Carrot and courgette/zucchini cake works well, as do fruit pastries.

jmcquown wrote:
>
> Gloria P wrote:
> > Omelet wrote:
> >> While not everybody has to face this, some of us do.
> >>
> >> Caring for elderly parents.
> >>
> >> Cooking for them can be a rewarding chore but still difficult,
> >> especially when you are trying to make sure they get all the "things"
> >> they need in their diet and it's up to them to eat it.
> >>
> >> I just purchased 3 large containers of Vionate (Jefferspets.com) to
> >> add to dad's food as I cannot always trust him to take his
> >> supplements,
> >
> >>
> >> The only problem with it is it tends to add a slightly gritty texture
> >> due to the mineral content. I'm eating some of the crab and cheese
> >> omelet I just made for dad to test it out. It's not bad.
> >>
> >> Only time will tell...
> >>
> >> It's well hidden in scrambled eggs and meatloaf type items.
> >
> > How about in bread or muffins? Brownies? I.E. something that's
> > FUN to eat.
> >
> > gloria p
>
> She loves ice cream; just had a couple of scoops with butterscotch topping
>
>
> Jill

Can you make some for her? Will have more nutrition in it than the
supermarket airfoam and taste better too. Don't even need an ice cream
maker..just stir it up from time to time as it freezes.

Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>> Gloria P wrote:
>>> Omelet wrote:
>>>> While not everybody has to face this, some of us do.
>>>>
>>>> Caring for elderly parents.
>>>>
>>>> Cooking for them can be a rewarding chore but still difficult,
>>>> especially when you are trying to make sure they get all the
>>>> "things" they need in their diet and it's up to them to eat it.
>>>>
>>>> I just purchased 3 large containers of Vionate (Jefferspets.com) to
>>>> add to dad's food as I cannot always trust him to take his
>>>> supplements,
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The only problem with it is it tends to add a slightly gritty
>>>> texture due to the mineral content. I'm eating some of the crab
>>>> and cheese omelet I just made for dad to test it out. It's not
>>>> bad.
>>>>
>>>> Only time will tell...
>>>>
>>>> It's well hidden in scrambled eggs and meatloaf type items.
>>>
>>> How about in bread or muffins? Brownies? I.E. something that's
>>> FUN to eat.
>>>
>>> gloria p
>>
>> She loves ice cream; just had a couple of scoops with butterscotch
>> topping
>>
>> Jill
>
> Vionate might work in the topping if you added nuts. <g>

Sorry, she can't chew nuts.

jmcquown wrote:

>> Are we artificially prolonging what god and man used to call NATURAL
>> CAUSES for our benefit or theirs?
>>
> I think you know how I feel about people pushing religion. The physical
> therapist (PT) marched in and almost immediately asked what church we go
> to. Excuse me? It has absolutely nothing to do with her medical care.
> (And yes I reported her to the agency who is sending people to the
> house.) It's none of their friggin business.
>
> Jill

Oh geesh... she was probably just making conversation and that question
is very common down south. How have you missed knowing that being that
you've lived in the south so long?
It is asked as a conversation starter not unlike asking what school you
attended?
I think you over reacted entirely.

In article >, Arri London >
wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > Sheldon wrote:
> > > I think you can do better and for a lot less cost buying the Nestle
> > > suppliments... and add it to interesting great tasting smoothies.
> > > Horlicks is good too, and Ovaltine.
> > >
> > I thought for a while all the medical personnel coming over owned stock in
> > Ensure or Boost. Everyone kept asking does she drink it? No, she doesn't
> > like it. Funny, when I said she drinks Instant Breakfast every day they all
> > said "OH! okay, that's good!" Yes, it's fine. Add a little malted milk
> > powder... yum!
> >
> > Jill
>
> Every time my (underweight) mother is in hospital, they try to give her
> something like Ensure. She tried it once and spit it out, as did I LOL.
> It's nasty stuff (as is Pediasure) stuffed full of artificial
> flavourings.
>
> When I make bread, a little oil is added, although would prefer true
> French-type white bread. Home-made custard-base ice cream and various
> milk puddings (bread, rice, semolina etc) go down well. We make
> gelatines which at least contain some protein to make up for the
> artificial colours and flavours. Couldn't convince her to eat flavoured
> Knox gelatine
>
> Now working on trying to make various cakes/pastries more nutritious!
> Carrot and courgette/zucchini cake works well, as do fruit pastries.

And can be cooked ahead and frozen. ;-)
--
Peace! Om

"He who has the gold makes the rules"
--Om

"He who has the guns can get the gold."
-- Steve Rothstein

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > "jmcquown" > wrote:
> >
> >> Gloria P wrote:
> >>> Omelet wrote:
> >>>> While not everybody has to face this, some of us do.
> >>>>
> >>>> Caring for elderly parents.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cooking for them can be a rewarding chore but still difficult,
> >>>> especially when you are trying to make sure they get all the
> >>>> "things" they need in their diet and it's up to them to eat it.
> >>>>
> >>>> I just purchased 3 large containers of Vionate (Jefferspets.com) to
> >>>> add to dad's food as I cannot always trust him to take his
> >>>> supplements,
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The only problem with it is it tends to add a slightly gritty
> >>>> texture due to the mineral content. I'm eating some of the crab
> >>>> and cheese omelet I just made for dad to test it out. It's not
> >>>> bad.
> >>>>
> >>>> Only time will tell...
> >>>>
> >>>> It's well hidden in scrambled eggs and meatloaf type items.
> >>>
> >>> How about in bread or muffins? Brownies? I.E. something that's
> >>> FUN to eat.
> >>>
> >>> gloria p
> >>
> >> She loves ice cream; just had a couple of scoops with butterscotch
> >> topping
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > Vionate might work in the topping if you added nuts. <g>
>
> Sorry, she can't chew nuts.

Ah. Sorry. I have similar issues with dad. He does not have good teeth
and refuses to see a dentist. :-(
--
Peace! Om

"He who has the gold makes the rules"
--Om

"He who has the guns can get the gold."
-- Steve Rothstein

Goomba wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>>> Are we artificially prolonging what god and man used to call NATURAL
>>> CAUSES for our benefit or theirs?
>>>
>> I think you know how I feel about people pushing religion. The
>> physical therapist (PT) marched in and almost immediately asked what
>> church we go to. Excuse me? It has absolutely nothing to do with
>> her medical care. (And yes I reported her to the agency who is
>> sending people to the house.) It's none of their friggin business.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Oh geesh... she was probably just making conversation and that
> question is very common down south. How have you missed knowing that
> being that you've lived in the south so long?
> It is asked as a conversation starter not unlike asking what school
> you attended?
> I think you over reacted entirely.

The south has nothing to do with it. The Director of Operations didn't
think I overreacted. It's not within the scope of the job description to
PUSH her church. She and her husband formed their own church. It's called
the Church of Rock. This sounds very much like a bad Jack Black film, don't
you think?

She took drum lessons because they couldn't find a drummer for their newly
formed Christian rock band. Her father was a minister; he died a week ago
last year. If she was just being chatty I wouldn't know all the details. I
wasn't rude to her but she's not getting paid to preach. She's getting a
salary and billing Medicare and proseletyzing all at the same time. If she
was a Jehovah's Witness knocking at the door I'd have slammed it in her
face.

Jill

The Cook wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 23:45:55 -0400, Goomba >
> wrote:
>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>>> Are we artificially prolonging what god and man used to call
>>>> NATURAL CAUSES for our benefit or theirs?
>>>>
>>> I think you know how I feel about people pushing religion. The
>>> physical therapist (PT) marched in and almost immediately asked
>>> what church we go to. Excuse me? It has absolutely nothing to do
>>> with her medical care. (And yes I reported her to the agency who is
>>> sending people to the house.) It's none of their friggin business.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Oh geesh... she was probably just making conversation and that
>> question is very common down south. How have you missed knowing that
>> being that you've lived in the south so long?
>> It is asked as a conversation starter not unlike asking what school
>> you attended?
>> I think you over reacted entirely.
>
> A preliminary to "Do you know . . .?"


This wasn't ust chat. She was proseletyzing. It's not what she's getting
paid for.

Jill

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 23:45:55 -0400, Goomba >
wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:
>
>>> Are we artificially prolonging what god and man used to call NATURAL
>>> CAUSES for our benefit or theirs?
>>>
>> I think you know how I feel about people pushing religion. The physical
>> therapist (PT) marched in and almost immediately asked what church we go
>> to. Excuse me? It has absolutely nothing to do with her medical care.
>> (And yes I reported her to the agency who is sending people to the
>> house.) It's none of their friggin business.
>>
>> Jill
>
>Oh geesh... she was probably just making conversation and that question
>is very common down south. How have you missed knowing that being that
>you've lived in the south so long?
>It is asked as a conversation starter not unlike asking what school you
>attended?
>I think you over reacted entirely.

A preliminary to "Do you know . . .?"

Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>>> Vionate might work in the topping if you added nuts. <g>
>>
>> Sorry, she can't chew nuts.
>
> Ah. Sorry. I have similar issues with dad. He does not have good
> teeth and refuses to see a dentist. :-(


Mom has had false teeth since she was 40. I found her lower plate in the
dryer a few weeks ago when I washed one of her bathrobes. She stuck it in
her pocket. Imagine my surprise to find teeth staring at me in the washer!
She can't chew nuts, but thanks for the suggestion.

Jill

Arri London wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> She loves ice cream; just had a couple of scoops with butterscotch
>> topping
>>
>> Jill
>
> Can you make some for her? Will have more nutrition in it than the
> supermarket airfoam and taste better too. Don't even need an ice cream
> maker..just stir it up from time to time as it freezes.


I've never made ice cream; I have no idea how to do it. The only kind
she'll eat is vanilla. Got a recipe/method?

Jill

Janet Baraclough wrote:
> The message >
> from "jmcquown" > contains these words:
>
>> Arri London wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> She loves ice cream; just had a couple of scoops with butterscotch
>>>> topping
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Can you make some for her? Will have more nutrition in it than the
>>> supermarket airfoam and taste better too. Don't even need an ice
>>> cream maker..just stir it up from time to time as it freezes.
>
>
>> I've never made ice cream; I have no idea how to do it. The only
>> kind she'll eat is vanilla. Got a recipe/method?
>
>
> Terribly easy and as Arri says you don't need a machine (just take
> it out of the freezer before it sets solid, beat hard, return to
> freezer.) Lots of fat, protein, calcium, and calories..great for
> underweight people.
>
> http://www.ice-cream-recipes.com/ice...pe_vanilla.htm
>
> If you don't have vanilla pods just use essence.
>
> Even easier icecream; strawberries, sugar, cream. Beat strawberries
> and sugar together; stir in cream and mix, freeze.
>
> Janet.

Thanks! She doesn't like strawberries. She's very fussy these days.

Jill

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> Goomba wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >
> >>> Are we artificially prolonging what god and man used to call NATURAL
> >>> CAUSES for our benefit or theirs?
> >>>
> >> I think you know how I feel about people pushing religion. The
> >> physical therapist (PT) marched in and almost immediately asked what
> >> church we go to. Excuse me? It has absolutely nothing to do with
> >> her medical care. (And yes I reported her to the agency who is
> >> sending people to the house.) It's none of their friggin business.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > Oh geesh... she was probably just making conversation and that
> > question is very common down south. How have you missed knowing that
> > being that you've lived in the south so long?
> > It is asked as a conversation starter not unlike asking what school
> > you attended?
> > I think you over reacted entirely.
>
> The south has nothing to do with it. The Director of Operations didn't
> think I overreacted. It's not within the scope of the job description to
> PUSH her church. She and her husband formed their own church. It's called
> the Church of Rock. This sounds very much like a bad Jack Black film, don't
> you think?
>
> She took drum lessons because they couldn't find a drummer for their newly
> formed Christian rock band. Her father was a minister; he died a week ago
> last year. If she was just being chatty I wouldn't know all the details. I
> wasn't rude to her but she's not getting paid to preach. She's getting a
> salary and billing Medicare and proseletyzing all at the same time. If she
> was a Jehovah's Witness knocking at the door I'd have slammed it in her
> face.
>
> Jill

I'm glad you called her down on it. ;-)
--
Peace! Om

"He who has the gold makes the rules"
--Om

"He who has the guns can get the gold."
-- Steve Rothstein

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > "jmcquown" > wrote:
> >
> >>> Vionate might work in the topping if you added nuts. <g>
> >>
> >> Sorry, she can't chew nuts.
> >
> > Ah. Sorry. I have similar issues with dad. He does not have good
> > teeth and refuses to see a dentist. :-(
>
>
> Mom has had false teeth since she was 40. I found her lower plate in the
> dryer a few weeks ago when I washed one of her bathrobes. She stuck it in
> her pocket. Imagine my surprise to find teeth staring at me in the washer!
> She can't chew nuts, but thanks for the suggestion.
>
> Jill

Dad needs bridgework. :-) Just wish I could convince him to get it. VA
does not pay for dental tho' but I could make payments!

That's funny about finding teeth in the dryer. Did you think briefly you
were staring at a Cheshire cat? <g>
--
Peace! Om

"He who has the gold makes the rules"
--Om

"He who has the guns can get the gold."
-- Steve Rothstein

jmcquown wrote:

> The Cook wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 23:45:55 -0400, Goomba >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Are we artificially prolonging what god and man used to call
>>>>> NATURAL CAUSES for our benefit or theirs?
>>>>>
>>>> I think you know how I feel about people pushing religion. The
>>>> physical therapist (PT) marched in and almost immediately asked
>>>> what church we go to. Excuse me? It has absolutely nothing to do
>>>> with her medical care. (And yes I reported her to the agency who is
>>>> sending people to the house.) It's none of their friggin business.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh geesh... she was probably just making conversation and that
>>> question is very common down south. How have you missed knowing that
>>> being that you've lived in the south so long?
>>> It is asked as a conversation starter not unlike asking what school
>>> you attended?
>>> I think you over reacted entirely.
>>
>>
>> A preliminary to "Do you know . . .?"
>
>
>
> This wasn't ust chat. She was proseletyzing. It's not what she's
> getting paid for.

Questions about religion seem to have become much more frequent in the
past few years. I substitute teach in our public school district, K-12,
and get asked, "Are you a Christian?" all the time by grade school kids.
And the more they like you, the more likely they are to ask.

As it happens, I'm not, but have learned to avoid saying so - I've had
kids literally cry at the thought that I might burn in hell for not
believing. And I have to say I think less of their parents and
religious leaders for making them feel that the state of my immortal
souls is something for a child to worry about.

My stock answer has become, "I talk to God all the time, sweetheart.
Now. Where's your math worksheet?" The part about not expecting an
answer goes unsaid.

jmcquown wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>>
>>>> Vionate might work in the topping if you added nuts. <g>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, she can't chew nuts.
>>
>>
>> Ah. Sorry. I have similar issues with dad. He does not have good
>> teeth and refuses to see a dentist. :-(
>
>
>
> Mom has had false teeth since she was 40. I found her lower plate in
> the dryer a few weeks ago when I washed one of her bathrobes. She stuck
> it in her pocket. Imagine my surprise to find teeth staring at me in
> the washer! She can't chew nuts, but thanks for the suggestion.

Nuts chopped or processed to a texture approximating sawdust add flavor
and calories without the need to deal with crunchy texture.

Although I have a vivid memory of my great grandmother removing her
dentures to enjoy black walnut ice cream, nut chunks and all.

If that spectacle won't convince you to floss, nothing will.

In article >,
Kathleen > wrote:

> My stock answer has become, "I talk to God all the time, sweetheart.
> Now. Where's your math worksheet?" The part about not expecting an
> answer goes unsaid.

I talk to Jesus once per month when he's mowing my lawn. <eg>
--
Peace! Om

"He who has the gold makes the rules"
--Om

"He who has the guns can get the gold."
-- Steve Rothstein

In article >,
Kathleen > wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
>
> > Omelet wrote:
> >
> >> In article >,
> >> "jmcquown" > wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Vionate might work in the topping if you added nuts. <g>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sorry, she can't chew nuts.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ah. Sorry. I have similar issues with dad. He does not have good
> >> teeth and refuses to see a dentist. :-(
> >
> >
> >
> > Mom has had false teeth since she was 40. I found her lower plate in
> > the dryer a few weeks ago when I washed one of her bathrobes. She stuck
> > it in her pocket. Imagine my surprise to find teeth staring at me in
> > the washer! She can't chew nuts, but thanks for the suggestion.
>
> Nuts chopped or processed to a texture approximating sawdust add flavor
> and calories without the need to deal with crunchy texture.
>
> Although I have a vivid memory of my great grandmother removing her
> dentures to enjoy black walnut ice cream, nut chunks and all.
>
> If that spectacle won't convince you to floss, nothing will.

<lol> Thanks for that mental picture!
--
Peace! Om

"He who has the gold makes the rules"
--Om

"He who has the guns can get the gold."
-- Steve Rothstein