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Old 30-06-2008, 01:34 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Jean B.[_1_]
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Default OT: Seamonkey Question

My older saved posts seem to be disappearing. Indeed, I did find
one setting that got rid of post that were over 5 days old, and I
fixed that, but they are still disappearing. There must be some
other setting(s). If I can't figure this out, Ill be back to
using Thunderbird.
--
Jean B.
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Old 30-06-2008, 01:44 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
hahabogus
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Default OT: Seamonkey Question

"Jean B." wrote in news:6cs263F3h914eU12
@mid.individual.net:

My older saved posts seem to be disappearing. Indeed, I did find
one setting that got rid of post that were over 5 days old, and I
fixed that, but they are still disappearing. There must be some
other setting(s). If I can't figure this out, Ill be back to
using Thunderbird.


Bite the bullet and get XNEWS or another stand alone dedicated news
reader...XNEWS is free software. Agent is semi free...(free unless you want
to upgrade). There are a slew of other equally affordable (free) stand
alone dedicated news readers out there. A general do everthing...browse, e-
mail, read news application just isn't as newsreader friendly. Either that
or save posts to a file and read from the file.

--

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Old 30-06-2008, 02:01 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Jean B.[_1_]
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Default OT: Seamonkey Question

hahabogus wrote:
"Jean B." wrote in news:6cs263F3h914eU12
@mid.individual.net:

My older saved posts seem to be disappearing. Indeed, I did find
one setting that got rid of post that were over 5 days old, and I
fixed that, but they are still disappearing. There must be some
other setting(s). If I can't figure this out, Ill be back to
using Thunderbird.


Bite the bullet and get XNEWS or another stand alone dedicated news
reader...XNEWS is free software. Agent is semi free...(free unless you want
to upgrade). There are a slew of other equally affordable (free) stand
alone dedicated news readers out there. A general do everthing...browse, e-
mail, read news application just isn't as newsreader friendly. Either that
or save posts to a file and read from the file.

Thanks. I THINK I may have found the other setting that was
causing this. I MIGHT try one of those news readers (I hear good
things about those--and Dialogue), but having been reared on
Netscape, I still like that feel.

--
Jean B.
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Old 30-06-2008, 06:29 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
sf[_3_]
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Default OT: Seamonkey Question

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:44:42 GMT, hahabogus wrote:

Agent is semi free...(free unless you want to upgrade).


That used to be true, but I think with v4 you have to buy it after a
30 trial period.



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Mae West
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Old 30-06-2008, 07:06 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Blinky the Shark
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Default OT: Seamonkey Question

wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:44:42 GMT, hahabogus wrote:

Agent is semi free...(free unless you want to upgrade).


That used to be true, but I think with v4 you have to buy it after a
30 trial period.


I *think* the actual deal is that instead of there being two programs, FA
and A, as there was with 1.x, there's now only one -- and after the 30-day
trial if its not purchased it cripples itself (reduces its feature set)
but can still be used. (Not that even the pay version is all that hot.)

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Old 30-06-2008, 07:45 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
sf[_3_]
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Default OT: Seamonkey Question

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:06:38 -0700, Blinky the Shark
wrote:

I *think* the actual deal is that instead of there being two programs, FA
and A, as there was with 1.x, there's now only one -- and after the 30-day
trial if its not purchased it cripples itself (reduces its feature set)
but can still be used. (Not that even the pay version is all that hot.)


There were never two programs. Free Agent was always a crippled
version of full Agent. You could "try" free agent indefinitely, but
if you wanted features like filtering and spell check, you had to buy
it.

Free Agent http://www.forteinc.com/agent/

Forté has offered Free Agent for more than 10 years. With the release
of Agent 4.0 we have decided to retire Free Agent and focus on
providing Agent customers with exciting new features and timely
upgrades.

I'm sticking with my paid version of 2x. All I want is filtering (by
author & subject are fine with me) and spellcheck. Forget the bells
and whistles they're putting on newer versions. Too much glop I won't
ever use.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West
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Old 30-06-2008, 07:52 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Blinky the Shark
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Default OT: Seamonkey Question

wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:06:38 -0700, Blinky the Shark
wrote:

I *think* the actual deal is that instead of there being two programs, FA
and A, as there was with 1.x, there's now only one -- and after the 30-day
trial if its not purchased it cripples itself (reduces its feature set)
but can still be used. (Not that even the pay version is all that hot.)


There were never two programs. Free Agent was always a crippled
version of full Agent.


Yes, but they used to be separate packages. You could download and
install Free Agent. Because it was packaged separately. As Free Agent.

You could "try" free agent indefinitely


That's because there was a separate Free Agent package. It didn't time
out. It was a separate package.


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Old 30-06-2008, 08:17 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
sf[_3_]
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Default OT: Seamonkey Question

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:52:10 -0700, Blinky the Shark
wrote:

wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:06:38 -0700, Blinky the Shark
wrote:

I *think* the actual deal is that instead of there being two programs, FA
and A, as there was with 1.x, there's now only one -- and after the 30-day
trial if its not purchased it cripples itself (reduces its feature set)
but can still be used. (Not that even the pay version is all that hot.)


There were never two programs. Free Agent was always a crippled
version of full Agent.


Yes, but they used to be separate packages. You could download and
install Free Agent. Because it was packaged separately. As Free Agent.

You could "try" free agent indefinitely


That's because there was a separate Free Agent package. It didn't time
out. It was a separate package.


Did you ever upgrade? I did and it didn't require a different
download.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West
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Old 30-06-2008, 08:19 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Blinky the Shark
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Default OT: Seamonkey Question

wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:52:10 -0700, Blinky the Shark
wrote:

wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:06:38 -0700, Blinky the Shark
wrote:

I *think* the actual deal is that instead of there being two programs, FA
and A, as there was with 1.x, there's now only one -- and after the 30-day
trial if its not purchased it cripples itself (reduces its feature set)
but can still be used. (Not that even the pay version is all that hot.)

There were never two programs. Free Agent was always a crippled
version of full Agent.


Yes, but they used to be separate packages. You could download and
install Free Agent. Because it was packaged separately. As Free Agent.

You could "try" free agent indefinitely


That's because there was a separate Free Agent package. It didn't time
out. It was a separate package.


Did you ever upgrade? I did and it didn't require a different
download.


No. I evaluated it twice and it sucked both times.

So providing a key turned on features? I could swear in the time period
I'm talking about you could download either. This would've been seven or
eight years ago.


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Old 30-06-2008, 08:43 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Janet Wilder[_1_]
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Default OT: Seamonkey Question

Jean B. wrote:
hahabogus wrote:
"Jean B." wrote in news:6cs263F3h914eU12
@mid.individual.net:

My older saved posts seem to be disappearing. Indeed, I did find one
setting that got rid of post that were over 5 days old, and I fixed
that, but they are still disappearing. There must be some other
setting(s). If I can't figure this out, Ill be back to using
Thunderbird.


Bite the bullet and get XNEWS or another stand alone dedicated news
reader...XNEWS is free software. Agent is semi free...(free unless you
want to upgrade). There are a slew of other equally affordable (free)
stand alone dedicated news readers out there. A general do
everthing...browse, e-
mail, read news application just isn't as newsreader friendly. Either
that or save posts to a file and read from the file.

Thanks. I THINK I may have found the other setting that was causing
this. I MIGHT try one of those news readers (I hear good things about
those--and Dialogue), but having been reared on Netscape, I still like
that feel.


I tried the free version of Agent and one other free newsreader whose
name I can't remember. I keep going back to Thunderbird (before that
Mozilla Suite). I was a Netscape-baby, too. Even when I used AOL for
dialup, I would launch Netscape when I got on line g

Just telling you that you might be disappointed in other newsreaders.

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
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Old 30-06-2008, 08:44 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Janet Wilder[_1_]
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Default OT: Seamonkey Question

sf wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:44:42 GMT, hahabogus wrote:

Agent is semi free...(free unless you want to upgrade).


That used to be true, but I think with v4 you have to buy it after a
30 trial period.



I never liked it.

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
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Old 30-06-2008, 10:18 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Blinky the Shark
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Default OT: Seamonkey Question

Blinky the Shark wrote:

wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:52:10 -0700, Blinky the Shark
wrote:

wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:06:38 -0700, Blinky the Shark
wrote:

I *think* the actual deal is that instead of there being two programs, FA
and A, as there was with 1.x, there's now only one -- and after the 30-day
trial if its not purchased it cripples itself (reduces its feature set)
but can still be used. (Not that even the pay version is all that hot.)

There were never two programs. Free Agent was always a crippled
version of full Agent.

Yes, but they used to be separate packages. You could download and
install Free Agent. Because it was packaged separately. As Free Agent.

You could "try" free agent indefinitely

That's because there was a separate Free Agent package. It didn't time
out. It was a separate package.


Did you ever upgrade? I did and it didn't require a different
download.


No. I evaluated it twice and it sucked both times.

So providing a key turned on features? I could swear in the time period
I'm talking about you could download either. This would've been seven or
eight years ago.


The more I think of it, the more I think that *was* it -- buying it did
release the full feature set; it *was* a single download, as you describe.
Then they went in the other direction, to end up with a full release that
cripples itself if not paid and keyed after the trial period. I think my
memory was focused on it not being self-crippling to the extent that I
couldn't remember that it was convertible-to-full without a separate
program download.


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Old 30-06-2008, 10:21 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Blinky the Shark
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Default OT: Seamonkey Question

Janet Wilder wrote:

Jean B. wrote:
hahabogus wrote:
"Jean B." wrote in news:6cs263F3h914eU12
@mid.individual.net:

My older saved posts seem to be disappearing. Indeed, I did find one
setting that got rid of post that were over 5 days old, and I fixed
that, but they are still disappearing. There must be some other
setting(s). If I can't figure this out, Ill be back to using
Thunderbird.

Bite the bullet and get XNEWS or another stand alone dedicated news
reader...XNEWS is free software. Agent is semi free...(free unless you
want to upgrade). There are a slew of other equally affordable (free)
stand alone dedicated news readers out there. A general do
everthing...browse, e-
mail, read news application just isn't as newsreader friendly. Either
that or save posts to a file and read from the file.

Thanks. I THINK I may have found the other setting that was causing
this. I MIGHT try one of those news readers (I hear good things about
those--and Dialogue), but having been reared on Netscape, I still like
that feel.


I tried the free version of Agent and one other free newsreader whose
name I can't remember. I keep going back to Thunderbird (before that


They're probably about a tie. Neither has good filtering. TB takes a lot
of extensions to bring it up to speed with many other clients.

Mozilla Suite). I was a Netscape-baby, too. Even when I used AOL for
dialup, I would launch Netscape when I got on line g

Just telling you that you might be disappointed in other newsreaders.


Only if looking just like the one she's been using is more important to
her than getting something better.


--
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Old 01-07-2008, 01:19 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
Jean B.[_1_]
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Default OT: Seamonkey Question

Janet Wilder wrote:
Jean B. wrote:
hahabogus wrote:
"Jean B." wrote in news:6cs263F3h914eU12
@mid.individual.net:

My older saved posts seem to be disappearing. Indeed, I did find
one setting that got rid of post that were over 5 days old, and I
fixed that, but they are still disappearing. There must be some
other setting(s). If I can't figure this out, Ill be back to using
Thunderbird.

Bite the bullet and get XNEWS or another stand alone dedicated news
reader...XNEWS is free software. Agent is semi free...(free unless
you want to upgrade). There are a slew of other equally affordable
(free) stand alone dedicated news readers out there. A general do
everthing...browse, e-
mail, read news application just isn't as newsreader friendly. Either
that or save posts to a file and read from the file.

Thanks. I THINK I may have found the other setting that was causing
this. I MIGHT try one of those news readers (I hear good things about
those--and Dialogue), but having been reared on Netscape, I still like
that feel.


I tried the free version of Agent and one other free newsreader whose
name I can't remember. I keep going back to Thunderbird (before that
Mozilla Suite). I was a Netscape-baby, too. Even when I used AOL for
dialup, I would launch Netscape when I got on line g

Just telling you that you might be disappointed in other newsreaders.

Realistically, it seems like a toss-up between Seamonkey and
Thunderbird. I was planning to stick with the latter, in part
because of the coming filters, but I quickly defected to Seamonkey.

--
Jean B.
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Old 01-07-2008, 01:20 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
Jean B.[_1_]
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Default OT: Seamonkey Question

Blinky the Shark wrote:
Janet Wilder wrote:

Jean B. wrote:
hahabogus wrote:
"Jean B." wrote in news:6cs263F3h914eU12
@mid.individual.net:

My older saved posts seem to be disappearing. Indeed, I did find one
setting that got rid of post that were over 5 days old, and I fixed
that, but they are still disappearing. There must be some other
setting(s). If I can't figure this out, Ill be back to using
Thunderbird.
Bite the bullet and get XNEWS or another stand alone dedicated news
reader...XNEWS is free software. Agent is semi free...(free unless you
want to upgrade). There are a slew of other equally affordable (free)
stand alone dedicated news readers out there. A general do
everthing...browse, e-
mail, read news application just isn't as newsreader friendly. Either
that or save posts to a file and read from the file.

Thanks. I THINK I may have found the other setting that was causing
this. I MIGHT try one of those news readers (I hear good things about
those--and Dialogue), but having been reared on Netscape, I still like
that feel.

I tried the free version of Agent and one other free newsreader whose
name I can't remember. I keep going back to Thunderbird (before that


They're probably about a tie. Neither has good filtering. TB takes a lot
of extensions to bring it up to speed with many other clients.

Mozilla Suite). I was a Netscape-baby, too. Even when I used AOL for
dialup, I would launch Netscape when I got on line g

Just telling you that you might be disappointed in other newsreaders.


Only if looking just like the one she's been using is more important to
her than getting something better.


Familiarity is very nice.... I think the only way I could
possibly defect is if I just played with something else first and
possibly decided I liked it.

--
Jean B.
 




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