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"O'FAILURE" wrote:
Oh I don't get Shelly's posts. You were one of those kids who in school put their fingers in their ears and hummed whenever they didn't want to hear what the teacher was saying... and you still engage in self censureship... that's why you are so ****ing ignorant. There is a direct correlation between those who maintain killfiles and extremely low IQ. |
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Hi,
It may have been "reduce" not "render". Does one just boil the broth for a time to reduce? Thanks, On Fri, 23 May 2008 10:41:25 -0700 (PDT), John Kane wrote: On May 23, 1:10*pm, Choco wrote: Hi, I saw a recipe that indicated that broth should be rendered. *What and how? Thanks, To me, in cooking it would mean reducing something like pork fat to lard. I have never hear of rendering a soup. I wonder if it is a misprint or mistranslation for 'reduce' which would mean boiling or simmering the broth to "reduce" its volume. This increases the flavour and may thicken the liquid. John Kane Kingston ON Canada |
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Choco wrote:
Hi, It may have been "reduce" not "render". Does one just boil the broth for a time to reduce? It may have been???? Which is it? If you post a request for an explanation it is a good idea to make sure you use the word that has you puzzled, and if you were concerned enough about the recipe to ask the question you have certainly had ample opportunity to check it. |
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On May 24, 8:44*am, Choco wrote:
Hi, It may have been "reduce" not "render". *Does one just boil the broth for a time to reduce? Yes. Thanks, On Fri, 23 May 2008 10:41:25 -0700 (PDT), John Kane wrote: On May 23, 1:10*pm, Choco wrote: Hi, I saw a recipe that indicated that broth should be rendered. *What and how? Thanks, To me, in cooking it would mean reducing something like pork fat to lard. I have never hear *of rendering a soup. *I wonder if it is a misprint or mistranslation for 'reduce' which would mean boiling or simmering the broth to "reduce" its volume. *This increases the flavour and may thicken the liquid. John Kane Kingston ON Canada- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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Andy wrote:
Ophelia said... Andy wrote: Ophelia said... "fat and schmaltz" ?? I thought schmaltz was fat?? Please explain? It is a fat. If you pour drippings into a measuring cup and put it in the fridge overnight, there will be a layer of white solid fat on top which you skim off and throw away, the remaining golden fat is the schmaltz an almost "clarified" chicken fat. That's how I understood it. I roasted two birds and did that. I never did use it. Oh I don't get Shelly's posts. Chicken fat doesn't really solidify, is that schmaltz? Ophelia, Yes, Mine chilled into two layers overnight. After I skimmed off the solid white fat, the golden liquid fat is schmaltz. There is pig and goose schmaltz also. You don't have to roast whole birds to make schmaltz, you can just use chicken fat from your butcher. There are some recipes to be found. This one sounds good although I don't know if it's authentic. Anyone? http://www.girlsaresmarter.com/tammy/schmaltz.html Thank you very much Andy |
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John Kane said...
On May 24, 8:44*am, Choco wrote: Hi, It may have been "reduce" not "render". *Does one just boil the broth fo r a time to reduce? Yes. Thanks, On Fri, 23 May 2008 10:41:25 -0700 (PDT), John Kane jrkrid... @gmail.com wrote: On May 23, 1:10*pm, Choco wrote: Hi, I saw a recipe that indicated that broth should be rendered. *What an d how? Thanks, To me, in cooking it would mean reducing something like pork fat to lard. I have never hear *of rendering a soup. *I wonder if it is a misprint or mistranslation for 'reduce' which would mean boiling or simmering the broth to "reduce" its volume. *This increases the flavour and may thicken the liquid. John Kane Kingston ON Canada- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - OK, Probably repeating but when a slice of bacon is cooked, a lot of the fat is removed/rendered out leaving a crispy slice of bacon (of varying personal preference). Opposed to eating a raw slice of bacon and all it's fat. That DOES present a bad mental image of NOT rendering. Andy |
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"Paul M. Cookless" wrote:
"Choco" wrote: I saw a recipe that indicated that broth should be rendered. � What and how? It's not possible to render broth, you can only render fat. In this case they mean to render the fat, as in to remove it. � The easiest way is to let it cool and skim the fat from the surface. Yes, that's does work well. That's chicken fat, but it's not schmaltz, schmaltz is rendered fat. Schmalts is made by rendering, not by cooking in liquid. Rendering fats enhances and concentrates flavor. When cooking fat in liquid the flavor in the fat is given up to the liquid and the fat is left essentially flavorless, it also has a rather short shelf life even if refrigerated... most folks discard the fat skimed from liquid, it's tasteless and its texture is actually pretty disgusting (greasy slime). Rendered fat is akin to "ghee", is flavorful and has a relatively long shelf life, when properly prepared and strained of solids it can remain at room temperature for months... although chicken schmaltz is traditionally more often refrigerated so it can be used as a spread, like butter. |
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Ophelia said...
Andy wrote: Ophelia said... Andy wrote: Ophelia said... "fat and schmaltz" ?? I thought schmaltz was fat?? Please explain? It is a fat. If you pour drippings into a measuring cup and put it in the fridge overnight, there will be a layer of white solid fat on top which you skim off and throw away, the remaining golden fat is the schmaltz an almost "clarified" chicken fat. That's how I understood it. I roasted two birds and did that. I never did use it. Oh I don't get Shelly's posts. Chicken fat doesn't really solidify, is that schmaltz? Ophelia, Yes, Mine chilled into two layers overnight. After I skimmed off the solid white fat, the golden liquid fat is schmaltz. There is pig and goose schmaltz also. You don't have to roast whole birds to make schmaltz, you can just use chicken fat from your butcher. There are some recipes to be found. This one sounds good although I don't know if it's authentic. Anyone? http://www.girlsaresmarter.com/tammy/schmaltz.html Thank you very much Andy Ophelia, You're very welcome! Best, Andy |
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"Choco" wrote
It may have been "reduce" not "render". Does one just boil the broth for a time to reduce? Yes, though you generally want more of a 'simmer' or you can 'burn' the broth. It depends on how much you are reducing at a time. A small, say 1/2 cup, of broth can be reduced fairly quickly in a frying pan. A larger batch, say a gallon, will often taste 'burned' if you use the same heat factor as it has to be done for a longer time. |