Melba's Jammin' wrote:

In article ,

*"Dimitri" wrote:
The prices of both of these sauces is going through the roof. *

There seem to be *several copy-cat recipes.

Has anyone ever made the copy-cat recipes? *

How did they turn out?

Stan - thank goodness ketchup is still relative bargain.

Thanks

Dimitri

I made an apple ketchup that I thought tasted a lot like Heinz 57 sauce,
D. *It's from one of my *old* canning books (1940s, I think).


I have a banana ketchup I got from my corner Pilipino store, I use it
in Asian sauces. Otherwise it's kinda "odd"...

In some of my canning books there are receipts for ketcups made from
all sortsa stuff, including walnuts...


--
Best
Greg

Dimitri wrote:

The prices of both of these sauces is going through the roof. *

There seem to be *several copy-cat recipes.

Has anyone ever made the copy-cat recipes? *

How did they turn out?

Stan - thank goodness ketchup is still relative bargain.


Remember last year when someone (sqwretz?) here mentioned the
"shortage" of Heinz 57 on shelves? They wrote Heinz and received a
coupon for a free bottle...as a number of us then eventually did. A
pretty good deal...

;-)


--
Best
Greg

"Gregory Morrow" wrote in message
...
Dimitri wrote:

The prices of both of these sauces is going through the roof.

There seem to be several copy-cat recipes.

Has anyone ever made the copy-cat recipes?

How did they turn out?

Stan - thank goodness ketchup is still relative bargain.


Remember last year when someone (sqwretz?) here mentioned the
"shortage" of Heinz 57 on shelves? They wrote Heinz and received a
coupon for a free bottle...as a number of us then eventually did. A
pretty good deal...

;-)


Kewl. I'll give it a try.

Dimitri

--
Best
Greg

On May 20, 2:38*pm, meatnub wrote:
On May 20, 7:57*am, Bobo Bonobo® wrote:





On May 20, 4:51*am, Andy q wrote:

Wayne Boatwright said...

On Mon 19 May 2008 07:07:58p, Stan Horwitz told us...

In article ,
*"Dimitri" wrote:

The prices of both of these sauces is going through the roof. *

There seem to be *several copy-cat recipes.

Has anyone ever made the copy-cat recipes? *

How did they turn out?

Stan - thank goodness ketchup is still relative bargain.

Now that you mention it, I wonder why A1 and Heinz 57 sauces' prices
have risen so much while the price of a bottle of tomato ketchup hasn't
gone up much at all.

Probably because they can. *Steak sauces, whether you like them or not,
are probably thought of as a notch above ketchup by those who eat them,
a more "premium" product. *Marketing knows this and pushes the limit on
items like that. *Also, production is much higher for ketchup, which
keeps productioin costs at a lower level.

Then there's always Hunts!

Andy
Ducking and running

Ewwww. *Hunts is the Arby's of ketchups.

--Bryan

Ha! I thought you were going to say the "McDonald's" of ketchups. So
Hunts isn't all that bad then huh?

Arby's is near the bottom of the ditch. Down there with Subway and
Rally's/Checkers.

"People do crazy things in ads! like eat at Arby's"
-Marge Simpson

--Bryan

Dimitri wrote:


"Gregory Morrow" wrote in message
...
Dimitri wrote:

The prices of both of these sauces is going through the roof.

There seem to be several copy-cat recipes.

Has anyone ever made the copy-cat recipes?

How did they turn out?

Stan - thank goodness ketchup is still relative bargain.


Remember last year when someone (sqwretz?) here mentioned the
"shortage" of Heinz 57 on shelves? They wrote Heinz and received a
coupon for a free bottle...as a number of us then eventually did. A
pretty good deal...

No wonder it was in short supply; they were *giving* it away...

(Alternate: What better time to give out coupons than when nobody can find
the product? g)


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On Tue 20 May 2008 06:14:55a, Andy told us...

Wayne Boatwright said...

On Tue 20 May 2008 02:51:14a, Andy told us...

Wayne Boatwright said...

On Mon 19 May 2008 07:07:58p, Stan Horwitz told us...

In article ,
"Dimitri" wrote:

The prices of both of these sauces is going through the roof.

There seem to be several copy-cat recipes.

Has anyone ever made the copy-cat recipes?

How did they turn out?

Stan - thank goodness ketchup is still relative bargain.

Now that you mention it, I wonder why A1 and Heinz 57 sauces' prices
have risen so much while the price of a bottle of tomato ketchup
hasn't gone up much at all.


Probably because they can. Steak sauces, whether you like them or
not, are probably thought of as a notch above ketchup by those who eat
them, a more "premium" product. Marketing knows this and pushes the
limit on items like that. Also, production is much higher for
ketchup, which keeps productioin costs at a lower level.


Then there's always Hunts!

Andy
Ducking and running.


And there were those folks who made tomato soup at the automat from
ketchup and boiling water.


Besides aging yourself, how would you know that? Wiki? Back kitchen at
Horny Hardarts? LOL!

Best,

Andy


I remember the aging Horn & Hardarts in Manhattan from the 1960s, an
witnessed a couple of people doing that on occasion. Even in its later
years, there were still a few good foods you could pluck out of those
little doors. :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Countdown till Memorial Day
5dys 6hrs 30mins
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A good catchword can obscure analysis
for fifty years. - W. L. Wilkie
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On Tue, 20 May 2008 12:21:23 -0700, "Dimitri"
wrote:


"Kswck" wrote in message
...

"Dimitri" wrote in message
...

The prices of both of these sauces is going through the roof.
There seem to be several copy-cat recipes.

Has anyone ever made the copy-cat recipes?
How did they turn out?

Stan - thank goodness ketchup is still relative bargain.

Thanks

Dimitri

I wouldn't think that an average household would go through enough of
either to worry too much about the price.


Except I LOVE the 57 sauce and could damn near drink the stuff.

If I can save money I'm all for it.

Dimitri

even if you don't use much, there is a price point at which you balk.
at least i do.

your pal,
blake

"blake murphy" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 May 2008 12:21:23 -0700, "Dimitri"
wrote:


"Kswck" wrote in message
...

"Dimitri" wrote in message
...

The prices of both of these sauces is going through the roof.
There seem to be several copy-cat recipes.

Has anyone ever made the copy-cat recipes?
How did they turn out?

Stan - thank goodness ketchup is still relative bargain.

Thanks

Dimitri

I wouldn't think that an average household would go through enough of
either to worry too much about the price.


Except I LOVE the 57 sauce and could damn near drink the stuff.

If I can save money I'm all for it.

Dimitri

even if you don't use much, there is a price point at which you balk.
at least i do.

your pal,
blake

I can see it if the price suddenly becomes $5 a jar-yeah.

On May 20, 5:34*pm, Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
On May 20, 2:38*pm, meatnub wrote:





On May 20, 7:57*am, Bobo Bonobo® wrote:

On May 20, 4:51*am, Andy q wrote:

Wayne Boatwright said...

On Mon 19 May 2008 07:07:58p, Stan Horwitz told us...

In article ,
*"Dimitri" wrote:

The prices of both of these sauces is going through the roof. *

There seem to be *several copy-cat recipes.

Has anyone ever made the copy-cat recipes? *

How did they turn out?

Stan - thank goodness ketchup is still relative bargain.

Now that you mention it, I wonder why A1 and Heinz 57 sauces' prices
have risen so much while the price of a bottle of tomato ketchup hasn't
gone up much at all.

Probably because they can. *Steak sauces, whether you like them or not,
are probably thought of as a notch above ketchup by those who eat them,
a more "premium" product. *Marketing knows this and pushes the limit on
items like that. *Also, production is much higher for ketchup, which
keeps productioin costs at a lower level.

Then there's always Hunts!

Andy
Ducking and running

Ewwww. *Hunts is the Arby's of ketchups.

--Bryan

Ha! I thought you were going to say the "McDonald's" of ketchups. So
Hunts isn't all that bad then huh?

Arby's is near the bottom of the ditch. *Down there with Subway and
Rally's/Checkers.

"People do crazy things in ads! like eat at Arby's"
* -Marge Simpson

--Bryan- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So are you saying McDonald's is better than Arby's? Who'd've thunkit.
I have to remind my wife that, whenever we are stuck in a pinch and
need to eat out, she prefers Arby's roast beef over McDonald's.

"meatnub" wrote in message
...
On May 20, 5:34 pm, Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
On May 20, 2:38 pm, meatnub wrote:





On May 20, 7:57 am, Bobo Bonobo® wrote:

On May 20, 4:51 am, Andy q wrote:

Wayne Boatwright said...

On Mon 19 May 2008 07:07:58p, Stan Horwitz told us...

In article ,
"Dimitri" wrote:

The prices of both of these sauces is going through the roof.

There seem to be several copy-cat recipes.

Has anyone ever made the copy-cat recipes?

How did they turn out?

Stan - thank goodness ketchup is still relative bargain.

Now that you mention it, I wonder why A1 and Heinz 57 sauces'
prices
have risen so much while the price of a bottle of tomato ketchup
hasn't
gone up much at all.

Probably because they can. Steak sauces, whether you like them or
not,
are probably thought of as a notch above ketchup by those who eat
them,
a more "premium" product. Marketing knows this and pushes the
limit on
items like that. Also, production is much higher for ketchup,
which
keeps productioin costs at a lower level.

Then there's always Hunts!

Andy
Ducking and running

Ewwww. Hunts is the Arby's of ketchups.

--Bryan

Ha! I thought you were going to say the "McDonald's" of ketchups. So
Hunts isn't all that bad then huh?

Arby's is near the bottom of the ditch. Down there with Subway and
Rally's/Checkers.

"People do crazy things in ads! like eat at Arby's"
-Marge Simpson

--Bryan- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So are you saying McDonald's is better than Arby's? Who'd've thunkit.
I have to remind my wife that, whenever we are stuck in a pinch and
need to eat out, she prefers Arby's roast beef over McDonald's.

Neither is real food.
I's rather eat a salad dry.

On May 21, 2:27*pm, meatnub wrote:
On May 20, 5:34*pm, Bobo Bonobo® wrote:





On May 20, 2:38*pm, meatnub wrote:

On May 20, 7:57*am, Bobo Bonobo® wrote:

On May 20, 4:51*am, Andy q wrote:

Wayne Boatwright said...

On Mon 19 May 2008 07:07:58p, Stan Horwitz told us...

In article ,
*"Dimitri" wrote:

The prices of both of these sauces is going through the roof. *

There seem to be *several copy-cat recipes.

Has anyone ever made the copy-cat recipes? *

How did they turn out?

Stan - thank goodness ketchup is still relative bargain.

Now that you mention it, I wonder why A1 and Heinz 57 sauces' prices
have risen so much while the price of a bottle of tomato ketchup hasn't
gone up much at all.

Probably because they can. *Steak sauces, whether you like them or not,
are probably thought of as a notch above ketchup by those who eat them,
a more "premium" product. *Marketing knows this and pushes the limit on
items like that. *Also, production is much higher for ketchup, which
keeps productioin costs at a lower level.

Then there's always Hunts!

Andy
Ducking and running

Ewwww. *Hunts is the Arby's of ketchups.

--Bryan

Ha! I thought you were going to say the "McDonald's" of ketchups. So
Hunts isn't all that bad then huh?

Arby's is near the bottom of the ditch. *Down there with Subway and
Rally's/Checkers.

"People do crazy things in ads! like eat at Arby's"
* -Marge Simpson

--Bryan- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So are you saying McDonald's is better than Arby's? *Who'd've thunkit.
I have to remind my wife that, whenever we are stuck in a pinch and
need to eat out, she prefers Arby's roast beef over McDonald's

Arby's is not "roast beef." It is *lunchmeat*.
In this market, Big & Tastys are $1. I order 2, no mayo or ketchup,
extra pickle. I remove the patties and squish each between the bottom
bun and a couple of napkins to extract the grease. Then I toss the
saturated bottom buns, and put it back together as a double burger
with double stuff. Not really *good*, but cheap, and not as bad as
Arby's. I can get my 6 YO a B&T w/ "cheese" for $1.30.

--Bryan

On Mon, 19 May 2008 22:12:39 -0500, Sqwertz
wrote:

Stan Horwitz wrote:

Now that you mention it, I wonder why A1 and Heinz 57 sauces' prices
have risen so much while the price of a bottle of tomato ketchup hasn't
gone up much at all.

Restaurants and foodservice outfits get these products for dirt
cheap as advertising. Then the retail customers get to subsidize
the promotion.

Same thing with soft drinks; fast food places get them dirt cheap
yet you'll pay $1.25 for a 16oz bottle from the quickie mart.


You too can get sopft drinks dirt cheap. Buy 5 gallon bags of syrup
(~$49), 5 lb cylinders of CO2 (~$60 for the cylinder and $10 per
refill), and a soda dispensing machine. Then you can produce sodas for
about 1-1/2 cents per ounce.

You can go to Costco or Smart & Final and buy in bulk for ~4 cents per
ounce.

Or you can pay for the convience of buying just 1 cold one at a time for
~8 cents per ounce.

Robert Klute wrote:

You too can get sopft drinks dirt cheap. Buy 5 gallon bags of syrup
(~$49), 5 lb cylinders of CO2 (~$60 for the cylinder and $10 per
refill), and a soda dispensing machine. Then you can produce sodas for
about 1-1/2 cents per ounce.

The store brand is about that price (.99/6-pack), and it comes
pre-mixed and packaged in single-serving 12oz cans.

-sw

Kswck wrote:

"blake murphy" wrote in message

even if you don't use much, there is a price point at which you balk.
at least i do.

I can see it if the price suddenly becomes $5 a jar-yeah.

It comes in a bottle. The largest non-box, retail size (15-17oz?)
costs $4.99-$5.75 last I priced it.

-sw

On Wed, 21 May 2008 22:48:12 -0500, Sqwertz
wrote:

Kswck wrote:

"blake murphy" wrote in message

even if you don't use much, there is a price point at which you balk.
at least i do.

I can see it if the price suddenly becomes $5 a jar-yeah.

It comes in a bottle. The largest non-box, retail size (15-17oz?)
costs $4.99-$5.75 last I priced it.

-sw

it's pretty damn expensive, as these things go. maybe there will be
home-made bottling parties.

your pal,
blake