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Tomato Bisque vs Tomato Soup (again)



 
 
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Old 17-05-2008, 10:07 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Sheldon
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Default Mello-Roll, WAS: Tomato Bisque vs Tomato Soup (again)

"kilikini" wrote:
Sheldon wrote:

�The ice cream parlors and fountains had
ice cream bars, pops, cups (with pictures under the lids), and melo
rolls (not gonna explain, you either know what a melo roll is or you
don't). �Otherwise there were the Good Humor trucks, Mr. Softee, and
Bungalow Bar trucks... one of my first jobs when I got my drivers
licence was driving a Bungalow Bar truck.


First of all, Sheldon, happy early birthday! �


Thank you for the birthday wishes. And I'm also a new daddy.

See my babies:
http://i29.tinypic.com/4tu1op.jpg

There they a
http://i29.tinypic.com/r1mw5y.jpg
http://i29.tinypic.com/34f1m6g.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/10p1xkp.jpg

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Old 17-05-2008, 10:37 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Sheldon wrote:

Thank you for the birthday wishes. And I'm also a new daddy.

See my babies:
http://i29.tinypic.com/4tu1op.jpg


Happy Birthday, Sheldon. You were born the same year as
I was and my husband also. I thought many of our experiences
and memories were from the same era.

Cute photos, but I definitely see a mama and daddy. I think that
makes you a grandpa, but your grandkids seem to be Canadian.

gloria p
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Old 17-05-2008, 10:47 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Nexis
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Default Tomato Bisque vs Tomato Soup (again)


"Giusi" wrote in message
...
"Wayne Boatwright" ha scritto nel messaggio
.184...
On Fri 16 May 2008 08:24:09p, Sqwertz told us...

All that talk about tomato soup/bisque and grilled cheese sandwiches
gave me that urge. After looking in three grocery stores stores, I
finally found Campbell's Tomato Bisque at Fiesta Mart.

$2.79 for the standard size can!?!?!

-sw

Then I'd say Fiesta Mart was ripping their customers off. I bought some
more Tomato Bisque yesterday at Safeway and paid $1.29/can. It was well
worth the difference to me over their tomato soup slop.


--
Wayne Boatwright


I am reading this after having whipped up a pot of homamde cream of tomato soup
which cost me about euro 1.10 to make and is 6 servings or more. I could have made
tomato bisque just as easily, but I don't like it made with skimmed milk which is
all I have in the house.

It takes almost no time, is great in cold weather with canned tomatoes, or in heat
with fresh ones. And it is obviously much cheaper-- perhaps because I don't have
to put stabilizers and hfsc in it?


The bisque has no HFCS in it....but that's besides the point. What I want to know
is...
WHERE IS THE RECIPE? ;-)

kimberly

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Old 17-05-2008, 10:50 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Nexis
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Default Tomato Bisque vs Tomato Soup (again)


"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
3.184...
On Sat 17 May 2008 01:59:27a, Giusi told us...

"Wayne Boatwright" ha scritto nel
messaggio .184...
On Fri 16 May 2008 08:24:09p, Sqwertz told us...

All that talk about tomato soup/bisque and grilled cheese sandwiches
gave me that urge. After looking in three grocery stores stores, I
finally found Campbell's Tomato Bisque at Fiesta Mart.

$2.79 for the standard size can!?!?!

-sw

Then I'd say Fiesta Mart was ripping their customers off. I bought
some more Tomato Bisque yesterday at Safeway and paid $1.29/can. It
was well worth the difference to me over their tomato soup slop.


--
Wayne Boatwright


I am reading this after having whipped up a pot of homamde cream of
tomato soup which cost me about euro 1.10 to make and is 6 servings or
more. I could have made tomato bisque just as easily, but I don't like
it made with skimmed milk which is all I have in the house.

It takes almost no time, is great in cold weather with canned tomatoes,
or in heat with fresh ones. And it is obviously much cheaper-- perhaps
because I don't have to put stabilizers and hfsc in it?


Heh, I don't like *any* cream of tomato soup or bisque made with skim milk.
Yuk! Well, let's just face it, I can't stand skim milk. We do have it on
hand, but I will only use it in cooking where it will be completely
undetectable.

I make my own cream of tomato soup and bisque, too, but there are times
when it just isn't practical. We don't always have tomatoes (fresh or
canned) on hand, as my SO won't eat them. I buy them when I have a
specific use for them, and it's just usually me who eats them.

Most things are better, fresher, and cheaper when they're homemade, but I
do like having a few cans of soup in the pantry for those times when I
either don't have time or ingredients, or just don't feel like making it
myself.



--
Wayne Boatwright



I'm with you, Wayne! I was at my mom's Wednesday and wanted to have some
malt-o-meal...but all she had was skim milk. I won't even put that in coffee ;-) My
daughter has always called it blue water, and my son swears they just fill the jugs
with water and add a tablespoon of milk lol.

So...care to post your tomato bisque recipe?? Pretty please??

kimberly

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Old 17-05-2008, 10:54 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
James Silverton[_2_]
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Nexis wrote on Sat, 17 May 2008 14:50:41 -0700:


"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in
message
3.184...
On Sat 17 May 2008 01:59:27a, Giusi told us...

"Wayne Boatwright" ha
scritto nel messaggio
.184...
On Fri 16 May 2008 08:24:09p, Sqwertz told us...

All that talk about tomato soup/bisque and grilled cheese
sandwiches gave me that urge. After looking in three
grocery stores stores, I finally found Campbell's Tomato
Bisque at Fiesta Mart.


Would someone please tell me what is the essential difference
between tomato bisgue and tomato soup. I know that seafood
bisques are cooked with the shells but tomatoes don't have
shells do they? :-)

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Old 17-05-2008, 11:14 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Sqwertz wrote:


I settled on the $.69 can of regular tomato soup. So it's grilled
cheese and Campbell's tomato soup (made with half and half and some
chopped tomato) for lunch tomorrow.


One of the things I make for general cooking purposes is pureed
tomatoes (not canned tomato puree). Put a 28oz can of whole tomatoes in
juice into the blender, and puree it good. Then push the resulting
product through a sieve to get the seeds out. That leaves a fairly
liquid, reasonably fresh-tasting tomato puree.

A slug of that into the canned tomato soup reduces the sweetness and
brightens up the flavor substantially.




Brian

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Old 18-05-2008, 12:01 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Default Mello-Roll, WAS: Tomato Bisque vs Tomato Soup (again)

Sheldon wrote:
"kilikini" wrote:
Sheldon wrote:

�The ice cream parlors and fountains had
ice cream bars, pops, cups (with pictures under the lids), and melo
rolls (not gonna explain, you either know what a melo roll is or you
don't). �Otherwise there were the Good Humor trucks, Mr. Softee, and
Bungalow Bar trucks... one of my first jobs when I got my drivers
licence was driving a Bungalow Bar truck.

First of all, Sheldon, happy early birthday! �


Thank you for the birthday wishes. And I'm also a new daddy.

See my babies:
http://i29.tinypic.com/4tu1op.jpg

There they a
http://i29.tinypic.com/r1mw5y.jpg
http://i29.tinypic.com/34f1m6g.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/10p1xkp.jpg

---



At least there aren't any Shelly Jr's to burden humanity.

-dk
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Old 18-05-2008, 02:22 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Default Mello-Roll, WAS: Tomato Bisque vs Tomato Soup (again)

Sheldon wrote:
"kilikini" wrote:
Sheldon wrote:

�The ice cream parlors and fountains had
ice cream bars, pops, cups (with pictures under the lids), and melo
rolls (not gonna explain, you either know what a melo roll is or you
don't). �Otherwise there were the Good Humor trucks, Mr. Softee, and
Bungalow Bar trucks... one of my first jobs when I got my drivers
licence was driving a Bungalow Bar truck.

First of all, Sheldon, happy early birthday! �


Thank you for the birthday wishes. And I'm also a new daddy.

See my babies:
http://i29.tinypic.com/4tu1op.jpg

There they a
http://i29.tinypic.com/r1mw5y.jpg
http://i29.tinypic.com/34f1m6g.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/10p1xkp.jpg

---


It looks like you've got a honkin' big back yard!

(Yes, 'round these parts geese are sometimes called "honkers".)
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Old 18-05-2008, 02:30 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
Jean B.[_1_]
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Default Mello-Roll, WAS: Tomato Bisque vs Tomato Soup (again)

Sheldon wrote:
Thank you for the birthday wishes. And I'm also a new daddy.

See my babies:
http://i29.tinypic.com/4tu1op.jpg

There they a
http://i29.tinypic.com/r1mw5y.jpg
http://i29.tinypic.com/34f1m6g.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/10p1xkp.jpg

---


Awwww. They are so cute! Geese are very good parents too!

Happy Birthday, Sheldon.

--
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Old 18-05-2008, 02:40 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
Jean B.[_1_]
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Default Tomato Bisque vs Tomato Soup (again)

Sqwertz wrote:
All that talk about tomato soup/bisque and grilled cheese sandwiches
gave me that urge. After looking in three grocery stores stores, I
finally found Campbell's Tomato Bisque at Fiesta Mart.

$2.79 for the standard size can!?!?!

Somebody must have bumped their head if they think that can is $2.79
worth of soup. It was set off from the rest of the Campbell's stuff
like it was in a special class of it's own. The ingredients of both
soups looked the same except from some bits of tomato and some cream
(right after 'wheat flour' in the ingredients list - must have been
a lot of cream, eh?). I guess they thought they could get more for
it since it had French on it.

I settled on the $.69 can of regular tomato soup. So it's grilled
cheese and Campbell's tomato soup (made with half and half and some
chopped tomato) for lunch tomorrow.

-sw


Ingredients the same? Does that mean they stopped using HFCS?

--
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Old 18-05-2008, 04:06 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
Wayne Boatwright[_4_]
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On Sat 17 May 2008 02:54:49p, James Silverton told us...

Nexis wrote on Sat, 17 May 2008 14:50:41 -0700:


"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
3.184...
On Sat 17 May 2008 01:59:27a, Giusi told us...

"Wayne Boatwright" ha
scritto nel messaggio
.184...
On Fri 16 May 2008 08:24:09p, Sqwertz told us...

All that talk about tomato soup/bisque and grilled cheese
sandwiches gave me that urge. After looking in three
grocery stores stores, I finally found Campbell's Tomato
Bisque at Fiesta Mart.


Would someone please tell me what is the essential difference
between tomato bisgue and tomato soup. I know that seafood
bisques are cooked with the shells but tomatoes don't have
shells do they? :-)


In regular tomato soup (or cream of), the tomato is fully pureed. In
tomato bisque, there is always milk and/or cream, and there are bits of
tomato (size of your choice) in the creamy base. There can be other
seasoning differences, too.

--
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Saturday, 05(V)/17(XVII)/08(MMVIII)
-------------------------------------------
Today is: Armed Forces Day
Countdown till Memorial Day
1wks 1dys 3hrs 55mins
-------------------------------------------
I didn't *do* it, man, I only *said*
it. --Lenny Bruce
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Old 18-05-2008, 04:22 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
Wayne Boatwright[_4_]
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Default Tomato Bisque vs Tomato Soup (again)

On Sat 17 May 2008 02:50:41p, Nexis told us...


"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
3.184...
On Sat 17 May 2008 01:59:27a, Giusi told us...

"Wayne Boatwright" ha scritto nel
messaggio .184...
On Fri 16 May 2008 08:24:09p, Sqwertz told us...

All that talk about tomato soup/bisque and grilled cheese sandwiches
gave me that urge. After looking in three grocery stores stores, I
finally found Campbell's Tomato Bisque at Fiesta Mart.

$2.79 for the standard size can!?!?!

-sw

Then I'd say Fiesta Mart was ripping their customers off. I bought
some more Tomato Bisque yesterday at Safeway and paid $1.29/can. It
was well worth the difference to me over their tomato soup slop.


--
Wayne Boatwright

I am reading this after having whipped up a pot of homamde cream of
tomato soup which cost me about euro 1.10 to make and is 6 servings or
more. I could have made tomato bisque just as easily, but I don't
like it made with skimmed milk which is all I have in the house.

It takes almost no time, is great in cold weather with canned
tomatoes, or in heat with fresh ones. And it is obviously much
cheaper-- perhaps because I don't have to put stabilizers and hfsc in
it?


Heh, I don't like *any* cream of tomato soup or bisque made with skim
milk. Yuk! Well, let's just face it, I can't stand skim milk. We do
have it on hand, but I will only use it in cooking where it will be
completely undetectable.

I make my own cream of tomato soup and bisque, too, but there are times
when it just isn't practical. We don't always have tomatoes (fresh or
canned) on hand, as my SO won't eat them. I buy them when I have a
specific use for them, and it's just usually me who eats them.

Most things are better, fresher, and cheaper when they're homemade, but
I do like having a few cans of soup in the pantry for those times when
I either don't have time or ingredients, or just don't feel like making
it myself.



--
Wayne Boatwright



I'm with you, Wayne! I was at my mom's Wednesday and wanted to have some
malt-o-meal...but all she had was skim milk. I won't even put that in
coffee ;-) My daughter has always called it blue water, and my son
swears they just fill the jugs with water and add a tablespoon of milk
lol.

So...care to post your tomato bisque recipe?? Pretty please??

kimberly


Kimberly, this is as close to a recipe as I get, as I often change the
seasonings, and sometimes put more tomatoes in.

1/4 cup unsalted butter
1 small onion, chopped
1 clove garlic, minced (optional)
1 15-oz. crushed tomatoes
1 15-oz. can whole tomatoes, coarsely chopped
2 cups vegetable or chicken stock
1/4 cup uncooked rice
salt and pepper
1/4 teaspoon baking soda
1 tablespoon chopped basil fresh basil
1/4 tsp ground allspice
1 cup heavy cream
1 cup half-and-half
several dashes of tabasco or other hot pepper sauce
Garnish: thinly sliced basil leaves or minced parsley

Melt butter in a large saucepan and stir in the onions and garlic. Saute
until soft and golden over medium-low heat. Pour in the entire can of
crushed tomatoes, stock, rice, salt, pepper, basil, and allspice. Bring to
a boil, then reduce heat, partially cover, and simmer for about 30-35
minutes.

Puree the soup in a blender, solids first, then pour back into the
saucepan, add chopped tomatoes and simmer 10 minutes. Stir in the cream and
half-and-half, splash in the hot pepper sauce, and taste for seasoning.
Heat the soup just to a boil, then ladle into bowls. Garnish with sliced
basil leaves or minced parsley.

Note: I think canned tomatoes make a much better soup than fresh tomatoes.


--
Wayne Boatwright
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Saturday, 05(V)/17(XVII)/08(MMVIII)
-------------------------------------------
Today is: Armed Forces Day
Countdown till Memorial Day
1wks 1dys 3hrs 55mins
-------------------------------------------
I didn't *do* it, man, I only *said*
it. --Lenny Bruce
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Old 18-05-2008, 07:47 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
Victor Sack[_1_]
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Default User wrote:

One of the things I make for general cooking purposes is pureed
tomatoes (not canned tomato puree). Put a 28oz can of whole tomatoes in
juice into the blender, and puree it good. Then push the resulting
product through a sieve to get the seeds out. That leaves a fairly
liquid, reasonably fresh-tasting tomato puree.


Don't they sell Italian passata where you live? It is exactly the
product you describe for about the same price as a can of whole
tomatoes. Rigt now I have the Mutti brand passata here. It is
available either as a pure tomato version, or with basil added. Their
whole tomatoes are also good and not really inferior in taste even to
San Marzano tomatoes.

Victor


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Old 18-05-2008, 08:25 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On Sat, 17 May 2008 19:01:20 -0400, DK
wrote:

Sheldon wrote:
"kilikini" wrote:
Sheldon wrote:

?The ice cream parlors and fountains had
ice cream bars, pops, cups (with pictures under the lids), and melo
rolls (not gonna explain, you either know what a melo roll is or you
don't). ?Otherwise there were the Good Humor trucks, Mr. Softee, and
Bungalow Bar trucks... one of my first jobs when I got my drivers
licence was driving a Bungalow Bar truck.
First of all, Sheldon, happy early birthday! ?


Thank you for the birthday wishes. And I'm also a new daddy.

See my babies:
http://i29.tinypic.com/4tu1op.jpg

There they a
http://i29.tinypic.com/r1mw5y.jpg
http://i29.tinypic.com/34f1m6g.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/10p1xkp.jpg

---



At least there aren't any Shelly Jr's to burden humanity.

He should have said he was a "granddaddy". Those babies are really
his step-grandchildren.

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Old 18-05-2008, 08:27 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
Wayne Boatwright[_4_]
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Default Mello-Roll, WAS: Tomato Bisque vs Tomato Soup (again)

On Sun 18 May 2008 12:25:21a, sf told us...

On Sat, 17 May 2008 19:01:20 -0400, DK
wrote:

Sheldon wrote:
"kilikini" wrote:
Sheldon wrote:

?The ice cream parlors and fountains had
ice cream bars, pops, cups (with pictures under the lids), and melo
rolls (not gonna explain, you either know what a melo roll is or you
don't). ?Otherwise there were the Good Humor trucks, Mr. Softee, and
Bungalow Bar trucks... one of my first jobs when I got my drivers
licence was driving a Bungalow Bar truck. First of all, Sheldon,
happy early birthday! ?

Thank you for the birthday wishes. And I'm also a new daddy.

See my babies:
http://i29.tinypic.com/4tu1op.jpg

There they a
http://i29.tinypic.com/r1mw5y.jpg http://i29.tinypic.com/34f1m6g.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/10p1xkp.jpg

---



At least there aren't any Shelly Jr's to burden humanity.

He should have said he was a "granddaddy". Those babies are really
his step-grandchildren.


Heh! I always knew he was "goosey"! But, then, I shouldn't really insult
those pretty geese. :-)

--
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Countdown till Memorial Day
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