On Tue 13 May 2008 05:40:20a, Nancy Young told us...


"Michael "Dog3"" wrote

My contractor is trying to talk me out
of putting in another spigot that shoots out that hot water. Not in this
lifetime. I'd rather get rid of the microwave than the hot water
dispenser. I use it for a LOT of stuff. Iced tea is one of those
things.

I can't imagine why he (or she) is against it. People seem
to love those things, I've never had one. I'd consider it.
What's the argument?

nancy

There are only two arguments I can think of, and neither of which seem all
that relevant to me. One, the very early models tended to have the heating
elements burn out or the tank break down. Two, like your house hot water
heater, the unit uses cycling energy to keep the water hot, so waste of
electricity. Otherwise, no problems. The new units practically never
break down, and the minute amount of power they use is negligible. Also,
you do need an addtional hole in the sink it's intended for, unless you
don't mind having it installed coming up through the counter. Even in the
latter case, the spigot cam be mounted so that the water dispenses over the
sink. If you have a use for instant near-boiling water, they can't be
beat. Anything like tea, or things that have to be dissolved in hot water
are enough of a reason to invest in one. Two of the three I owned I
installed myself. Really very easy.


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On Tue 13 May 2008 06:08:29a, Michael "Dog3" told us...

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"Michael "Dog3"" wrote

My contractor is trying to talk me out
of putting in another spigot that shoots out that hot water. Not in
this lifetime. I'd rather get rid of the microwave than the hot water
dispenser. I use it for a LOT of stuff. Iced tea is one of those
things.

I can't imagine why he (or she) is against it. People seem
to love those things, I've never had one. I'd consider it.
What's the argument?

His reasoning is:

1) They only last 3-4 years (this one is 8 years old and is leaking under
the cabinets but still works)
2) They can be messy and expensive if they break down, which he says they
will. If they leak, they can ruin your cabinets (which this one is
doing).

I'd rather risk it

Michael



The new models are much better, Michael, especially those from In-Sink-
Erator.

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
On Tue 13 May 2008 05:40:20a, Nancy Young told us...

"Michael "Dog3"" wrote

My contractor is trying to talk me out
of putting in another spigot that shoots out that hot water. Not in this
lifetime. I'd rather get rid of the microwave than the hot water
dispenser. I use it for a LOT of stuff. Iced tea is one of those
things.
I can't imagine why he (or she) is against it. People seem
to love those things, I've never had one. I'd consider it.
What's the argument?

nancy

There are only two arguments I can think of, and neither of which seem all
that relevant to me. One, the very early models tended to have the heating
elements burn out or the tank break down. Two, like your house hot water
heater, the unit uses cycling energy to keep the water hot, so waste of
electricity. Otherwise, no problems. The new units practically never
break down, and the minute amount of power they use is negligible. Also,
you do need an addtional hole in the sink it's intended for, unless you
don't mind having it installed coming up through the counter. Even in the
latter case, the spigot cam be mounted so that the water dispenses over the
sink. If you have a use for instant near-boiling water, they can't be
beat. Anything like tea, or things that have to be dissolved in hot water
are enough of a reason to invest in one. Two of the three I owned I
installed myself. Really very easy.


And for anyone who can't install or doesn't want to install a permanent
device this is a nice option:

http://www.amazon.com/Zojirushi-CW-P.../dp/B00009K3TK

They are really common in Japan. I think every house and office I was
ever in there had one. I bought an earlier version of the Zojirushi in
Japan before you could find them here and have been using it for a long
time.

"Michael "Dog3"" wrote

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"Michael "Dog3"" wrote

My contractor is trying to talk me out
of putting in another spigot that shoots out that hot water. Not in
this lifetime. I'd rather get rid of the microwave than the hot water
dispenser. I use it for a LOT of stuff. Iced tea is one of those
things.

I can't imagine why he (or she) is against it. People seem
to love those things, I've never had one. I'd consider it.
What's the argument?

His reasoning is:

1) They only last 3-4 years (this one is 8 years old and is leaking under
the cabinets but still works)
2) They can be messy and expensive if they break down, which he says they
will. If they leak, they can ruin your cabinets (which this one is
doing).

I read both of your replies, got it. I waited so long to get a new
kitchen, I can't have stuff leaking and ruining them. The sink
cabinet is lined with a piece of vinyl flooring. They sell small rolls
specifically for that purpose. If I'm having problems with leaking,
which I have had with the pipes on occasion, there is a small basin
under the pipes. I take no chances.

That's one reason I don't want water or ice cubes from my
refrigerator, all I need is one more leaky setup threat. But that's
another story.

Wayne, I have seen people drill holes in stainless sinks to accomodate
some new thing. For whatever reason, I thought you got a stainless
sink. Just a thought.

nancy

On Tue, 13 May 2008 04:58:36 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
wrote:


http://www.chemex-store.com/

There are also other laboratory glass items (pitchers, beakers, and other
adapted kitchen use items made by other companies. Really nice when you
want glass and you also want durability.

Thanks for the visuals. I thought we were talking about something
I've never run across, but I've seen the ones with a "belt".... which
they call "fitted with a wood collar and leather tie".

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George wrote:
And for anyone who can't install or doesn't want to install a
permanent device this is a nice option:


http://www.amazon.com/Zojirushi-CW-P.../dp/B00009K3TK

They are really common in Japan. I think every house and office I was
ever in there had one. I bought an earlier version of the Zojirushi in
Japan before you could find them here and have been using it for a
long time.

I like the look of that! I don't need hot water all that often, though.

Jill

On Tue 13 May 2008 06:32:15a, Nancy Young told us...


"Michael "Dog3"" wrote

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"Michael "Dog3"" wrote

My contractor is trying to talk me out
of putting in another spigot that shoots out that hot water. Not in
this lifetime. I'd rather get rid of the microwave than the hot water
dispenser. I use it for a LOT of stuff. Iced tea is one of those
things.

I can't imagine why he (or she) is against it. People seem
to love those things, I've never had one. I'd consider it.
What's the argument?

His reasoning is:

1) They only last 3-4 years (this one is 8 years old and is leaking
under
the cabinets but still works)
2) They can be messy and expensive if they break down, which he says
they
will. If they leak, they can ruin your cabinets (which this one is
doing).

I read both of your replies, got it. I waited so long to get a new
kitchen, I can't have stuff leaking and ruining them. The sink
cabinet is lined with a piece of vinyl flooring. They sell small rolls
specifically for that purpose. If I'm having problems with leaking,
which I have had with the pipes on occasion, there is a small basin
under the pipes. I take no chances.

That's one reason I don't want water or ice cubes from my
refrigerator, all I need is one more leaky setup threat. But that's
another story.

I understand your fear. I've been exceedingly lucky. Never in any house
I've owned have I had any kind of leakage problem, kitchen or baths. If I
had, I would be suitably fearful.

Wayne, I have seen people drill holes in stainless sinks to accomodate
some new thing. For whatever reason, I thought you got a stainless
sink. Just a thought.

You're right, it is SS, and it could be drilled or punched for the fixture.
But you know how those things go...rememebering that you want to do it,
then finding someone to do it, then getting it done. :-) I know I was
supposed to post kitchen pictures, but my digital camera has been ill, and
I have to either replace it or get it fixed. Another one of those
"things". One of these days... :-)

nancy






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On Tue 13 May 2008 07:08:39a, sf told us...

On Tue, 13 May 2008 04:58:36 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
wrote:


http://www.chemex-store.com/

There are also other laboratory glass items (pitchers, beakers, and other
adapted kitchen use items made by other companies. Really nice when you
want glass and you also want durability.

Thanks for the visuals. I thought we were talking about something
I've never run across, but I've seen the ones with a "belt".... which
they call "fitted with a wood collar and leather tie".


You're welcome!

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"Nancy Young" wrote:
"Michael "Dog3" wrote

� My contractor is trying to talk me out
of putting in another spigot that shoots out that hot water. Not in this
lifetime. I'd rather get rid of the microwave than the hot water
dispenser. I use it for a LOT of stuff. �Iced tea is one of those things.

I can't imagine why he (or she) is against it. �People seem
to love those things, I've never had one. �I'd consider it.
What's the argument?

Plumbers know that as with all hot water heaters they provide
wonderful environment for bacteria to breed.

The new electric tea kettles are far superior; they cost much less to
buy, can be located/moved anywhere, and cost tremedously less to
operate, plus your water is actually boiling hot, not so with those
sink thingies... with those the water never gets past perhaps 180F and
as soon as you draw hot water off cold water instantaneously enters,
not terrible if all you want is a small cupful of tepid but if you
want to fill a pitcher the best you can hope for is pish vasser warm.
You don't see a lot of them because they're not practical, they're
more a designer kitchen thingie for those to display so people will
think that they can actually cook. They also present a serious
scalding risk to cats and small children. But mostly they're a
harbinger of filth... I wouldn't ingest water from those mini sceptic
tanks.

If you have an extra hole in your sink that you don't know what to do
with install an RO filter.

`

On Mon, 12 May 2008 15:43:21 -0400, Goomba38
wrote:

jmcquown wrote:
Goomba38 wrote:
Many years ago I had a Pyrex drink pitcher. It was perfect for pouring
boiling water over for iced tea. Needless to say I lost or broke
it...and they are IMPOSSIBLE to find nowadays!

If a pitcher is advertised as "dishwasher and microwave safe" would
you assume you could pour boiling water into it?


http://www.target.com/Simplicity-Cla...338285-6697435

Oooh, I love the style of that pitcher! I would assume you could pour
boiling water into it since dishwashers get pretty darned hot. And I can't
imagine why else you'd put a pitcher like that into a microwave? I don't
see the name of the Mfg (unless it's "Simplicity") otherwise I'd suggest
contacting them for clarification.

Jill

I use a Fiesta pitcher for daily use, but need something larger. I wish
Fiesta made a 3+ quart size. This one at Target would be handy for the
size.
Why in the world doesn't Pyrex sell pitchers anymore, I wonder!??!

they got ****ed off because people kept losing or breaking them.

your pal,
blake

On May 12, 3:26�pm, Goomba38 wrote:
Many years ago I had a Pyrex drink pitcher. It was perfect for pouring
boiling water over for iced tea. Needless to say I lost or broke
it...and they are IMPOSSIBLE to find nowadays!

If a pitcher is advertised as "dishwasher and microwave safe" would you
assume you could pour boiling water into it?

http://www.target.com/Simplicity-Cla...0TADU3U/ref=sc...

Nice pitcher and will be fine if hand washed, but like all fine
glassware it won't hold up well to auto dishwashing compounds... it'll
become etched... after like a dozen cycles it'll begin to become
opaque.

On May 13, 7:15*am, "Michael \"Dog3\"" wrote:
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jmcquown wrote:
Wayne Boatwright wrote:

There are a lot of things that Pyrex used to make that they no
longer offer. *I always liked the small (half-quart and quart) size
Pyrex dishes with matching Pyrex lids because they were perfect for
microwaving 1 or 2 portions of almost anything. *I used to have
several of each size, but now I'm down to one of each. :-(

Corningware (same co?) still sells "Grab-Its" (with lids) which are
perfect for what you describe. *I haven't seen them in stores for a
while but they have 'em on the web site

Jill

While searching the Pyrex site for a pitcher, I noticed they have a
place to order replacement lids. I have a casserole dish that I've
lost the lid for and will go back to order one. I was on a tear to
find a pitcher today so didn't dawdle there.....

(one pitcher and one mortar/pestle set ordered today... I ought to be
shopped out, huh?)

I like the pitcher. *I've got one of those water spouts in the kitchen
that pours out nothing but 190 degree water. *I love it but have had
things crack when I put the hot water in them. *I'd find out from the
manufacturer before I bought it. *My contractor is trying to talk me out
of putting in another spigot that shoots out that hot water. Not in this
lifetime. I'd rather get rid of the microwave than the hot water
dispenser. I use it for a LOT of stuff. *Iced tea is one of those things..

Michael

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I hope it isn't hot soft water - most homes with added water softener
equipment have only the kitchen cold water as regular tap water. I
never use already-hot water for cooking because of that.

N.

On Mon, 12 May 2008 18:34:24 -0400, "Nancy Young"
wrote:

These just happen to be my personal favorite, I have a thing for
those refrigerator storage glass containers:

http://www.crateandbarrel.com/family.aspx?c=850&f=5413

nancy


ooh, ooh, i used to have one like this that i gooped from my mother.
(of course, i broke the container part.) still use the top as a spoon
rest sometimes. it has a bas-relief of two tomatoes and a sheaf of
asparagus. maybe i'll go to crate and barrel and check it out.

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 13 May 2008 04:58:36 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
wrote:

On Mon 12 May 2008 09:53:54p, sf told us...

On Tue, 13 May 2008 04:46:30 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
wrote:

Chemex is great stuff, but it is pricey. It's an offshoot of laboratory
glassware that's been developed for home use.

Aaha, so it must be pronounced Kemex, not *ch*emix. Either way, I've
never heard of it. LOL


http://www.chemex-store.com/

There are also other laboratory glass items (pitchers, beakers, and other
adapted kitchen use items made by other companies. Really nice when you
want glass and you also want durability.

american science and surplus is a good online source for this kind of
thing, and adult and kid's scientific toys.

http://www.sciplus.com/

it's kind of a remainder house for laboratory tools and other doodads.
sign up for their catalog, it's kind of a hoot the way trader joe's
is.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:

http://www.sciplus.com/

it's kind of a remainder house for laboratory tools and other doodads.
sign up for their catalog, it's kind of a hoot the way trader joe's
is.

your pal,
blake

Very cool site I'd love to have a 2500 mL Erlanger beaker for an
iced tea pitcher. Alas they have smaller ones only...but I'll keep looking.