http://www.recfoodcooking.com/

Hmmmm.

http://tinyurl.com/46mm37
or
http://www.news24.com/News24/Technol...308479,00.html

quote
Eating disorders 'contagious'
19/04/2008 21:41 - (SA)


New York - Eating disorders may be contagious, according to a study of
high school students in the United States.

Researchers from the VA Iowa City Health Care System found that binging,
fasting, diet pill use and other eating disorder symptoms clustered within
counties, particularly among female students.

"These findings confirm the strong social influences on female adolescents
in the US to be thin, sometimes using unhealthy behaviours to achieve this
goal," said Dr Valerie L Forman-Hoffman and Cassie L Cunningham.

In a study published in the International Journal of Eating Disorders they
said research in the 1980s in female college students first suggested that
disordered eating behaviour spread through "social contagion,"
demonstrating that binge eating clustered within sororities.

In the current study, they looked at whether a similar pattern would be
seen among high school students at the county-wide level by analysing
nationally representative data on 15 349 high school students.

Clustering Effect

There was a small but significant clustering effect, the researchers
found.

A pair of students from the same county was 4% to 10% more likely to share
an eating-disordered behaviour when compared to pairs in which each person
came from a different county.

Severe food intake restriction, dieting, exercising and diet pill use all
showed clustering by county, as did any weight control symptom overall or
any eating disorder symptom.

But no clustering was seen for purging, possibly due to the "secretive,"
less socially acceptable nature of this behaviour, the researchers
suggest.

Clustering patterns were the same in rural, suburban and urban counties.

While the study wasn't designed to look at why these behaviours might be
clustering in certain counties, the researchers suggest that peer
pressure, information sharing or students modelling their behaviour on one
another are possible mechanisms.

Based on their results, the researchers think it may be more effective to
target eating disorder prevention efforts to counties or schools where
they are more common, rather than individual students.

/quote

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Is that chip on your shoulder edible?

ChattyCathy wrote:

http://www.recfoodcooking.com/

Hmmmm.

http://tinyurl.com/46mm37
or
http://www.news24.com/News24/Technol...308479,00.html

quote
Eating disorders 'contagious'
19/04/2008 21:41 - (SA)

New York - Eating disorders may be contagious, according to a study of
high school students in the United States.

Researchers from the VA Iowa City Health Care System found that binging,
fasting, diet pill use and other eating disorder symptoms clustered within
counties, particularly among female students.

"These findings confirm the strong social influences on female adolescents
in the US to be thin, sometimes using unhealthy behaviours to achieve this
goal," said Dr Valerie L Forman-Hoffman and Cassie L Cunningham.

In a study published in the International Journal of Eating Disorders they
said research in the 1980s in female college students first suggested that
disordered eating behaviour spread through "social contagion,"
demonstrating that binge eating clustered within sororities.

In the current study, they looked at whether a similar pattern would be
seen among high school students at the county-wide level by analysing
nationally representative data on 15 349 high school students.

Clustering Effect

There was a small but significant clustering effect, the researchers
found.

A pair of students from the same county was 4% to 10% more likely to share
an eating-disordered behaviour when compared to pairs in which each person
came from a different county.

Severe food intake restriction, dieting, exercising and diet pill use all
showed clustering by county, as did any weight control symptom overall or
any eating disorder symptom.

But no clustering was seen for purging, possibly due to the "secretive,"
less socially acceptable nature of this behaviour, the researchers
suggest.

Clustering patterns were the same in rural, suburban and urban counties.

While the study wasn't designed to look at why these behaviours might be
clustering in certain counties, the researchers suggest that peer
pressure, information sharing or students modelling their behaviour on one
another are possible mechanisms.

Based on their results, the researchers think it may be more effective to
target eating disorder prevention efforts to counties or schools where
they are more common, rather than individual students.

/quote

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Is that chip on your shoulder edible?

"Peer pressure" is itself psyco-babble utter nonsense, just a PC version
of the "They made me do it" crap. Females appear to be predisposed to
eating disorders and the noted clusters are simply the result of the
same trigger affecting multiple susceptible persons.

Pete C. wrote:

"Peer pressure" is itself psyco-babble utter nonsense, just a PC version
of the "They made me do it" crap. Females appear to be predisposed to
eating disorders and the noted clusters are simply the result of the
same trigger affecting multiple susceptible persons.

I disagree that the term "peer pressure" is psycho-babble. It is an
easily understood concept which encompasses insecurities, a desire to
please, to fit in, etc.
Females are not "predisposed" to eating disorders. This is a learned
action, not a genetic one. Society imposes an image of beauty on females
and some do whatever it takes to meet that image whether it is logical
or not.

ChattyCathy wrote:
http://www.recfoodcooking.com/

Eating disorders 'contagious'

Nope... TIAD is definitely genetic.

On Apr 22, 10:47 am, ChattyCathy wrote:
http://www.recfoodcooking.com/

Hmmmm.

http://tinyurl.com/46mm37
orhttp://www.news24.com/News24/Technology/News/0,,2-13-1443_2308479,00....

quote
Eating disorders 'contagious'
19/04/2008 21:41 - (SA)

Well, they did say that obesity was "contagious", that people who hung
around together tended to normalize at the higher end of the group
weight range.

But Eating Disorders as a psychological term seem from my limited
experience, to be control issues (or lack thereof). And not just
girls. A couple of the ones I've met have been males into their
twenties.

maxine in ri

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:31:56 -0400, Goomba38 wrote:

Pete C. wrote:

"Peer pressure" is itself psyco-babble utter nonsense, just a PC
version of the "They made me do it" crap. Females appear to be
predisposed to eating disorders and the noted clusters are simply the
result of the same trigger affecting multiple susceptible persons.

I disagree that the term "peer pressure" is psycho-babble. It is an
easily understood concept which encompasses insecurities, a desire to
please, to fit in, etc.

Quite so. Most teenagers (of either sex) I've come across want to dress
alike, talk alike etc. - if that's not peer pressure, then I dunno. Mind
you, that's not restricted to teenagers - just look at all those fashion
channels on TV, not to mention all the fashion mags that sell by the
millions...

Females are not "predisposed" to eating disorders. This is a learned
action, not a genetic one. Society imposes an image of beauty on females
and some do whatever it takes to meet that image whether it is logical
or not.


Funnily enough, I know of two people who have suffered from eating
disorders and they were both female... Would be interested to know if
anyone has known a male that has/had an eating disorder e.g. anorexia
nervosa or bulimia nervosa.

Anybody?

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Is that chip on your shoulder edible?

"ChattyCathy" wrote in message
. ..

Funnily enough, I know of two people who have suffered from eating
disorders and they were both female...

I don't personally know any males who have suffered from eating disorders,
but I have known many females--other teens (when I was a teenager), as well
as women in their 20's and 30's.

When I was in my mid-20's, I got down to 100 lbs (at 5'4") from running
everyday and eating just one meal a day (lunch). Very unhealthy thing to do.

Mary

In article ,
"Pete C." wrote:


"Peer pressure" is itself psyco-babble utter nonsense, just a PC version
of the "They made me do it" crap. Females appear to be predisposed to
eating disorders and the noted clusters are simply the result of the
same trigger affecting multiple susceptible persons.

Just like germs infecting susceptible people?

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

ChattyCathy said...

Funnily enough, I know of two people who have suffered from eating
disorders and they were both female... Would be interested to know if
anyone has known a male that has/had an eating disorder e.g. anorexia
nervosa or bulimia nervosa.

Anybody?


5 years ago, I was seeing a woman my age who was bulimic. I didn't know it
for almost a year.

I'd cook for us or we'd go out for dinner and dancing at some pretty
upscale restaurants. She'd eat well and then after meals she would excuse
herself to the restroom and throw up her food. I found her over the toilet
vomiting. She finished, wiped her mouth, gargled some mouthwash and said "I
feel much better," and walked by like nothing had happened. She said it was
so she wouldn't gain weight or have to exercise. She even had visible marks
across her stomach from the spasms her stomach had gone through for so many
years she couldn't remember. I then realized she was a waste of my time,
money and TLC so I ended the relationship.

No regrets.

Andy

On Tue 22 Apr 2008 09:32:12a, ChattyCathy told us...

Funnily enough, I know of two people who have suffered from eating
disorders and they were both female... Would be interested to know if
anyone has known a male that has/had an eating disorder e.g. anorexia
nervosa or bulimia nervosa.

Anybody?


Nada. All males I've ever known were at least adequate eaters or voracious
eaters, the adequate eaters maintaining normal body weight, the latter
often engaging in vigorous exercise to balance the additional calorie
intake. I can't think of one who was either anorexic or bulimic.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Countdown till Memorial Day
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Just as Schopenhauer predicted,
absolutely nothing is happening.
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ChattyCathy wrote:

Funnily enough, I know of two people who have suffered from eating
disorders and they were both female... Would be interested to know if
anyone has known a male that has/had an eating disorder e.g. anorexia
nervosa or bulimia nervosa.

Anybody?

Yes, they exist, but obviously are much fewer.

Goomba38 wrote:

Pete C. wrote:

"Peer pressure" is itself psyco-babble utter nonsense, just a PC version
of the "They made me do it" crap. Females appear to be predisposed to
eating disorders and the noted clusters are simply the result of the
same trigger affecting multiple susceptible persons.

I disagree that the term "peer pressure" is psycho-babble. It is an
easily understood concept which encompasses insecurities, a desire to
please, to fit in, etc.

It's psycho-babble. It's an easily understood cop out is all, the same
old "they made me do it" excuse when someone makes a bad or unpopular
decision.

Females are not "predisposed" to eating disorders. This is a learned
action, not a genetic one. Society imposes an image of beauty on females
and some do whatever it takes to meet that image whether it is logical
or not.

No, they are most certainly predisposed to eating disorders. It is not
society that imposes an image of beauty, it is evolution that has
females competing to attract the best potential mate. If it was not an
evolutionary predisposition, eating disorder rates would be comparable
in males, who are equally subjected to images of beauty. PC or not, it
is a fact that female behavior is more driven by mating instinct than
that of males.

Dan Abel wrote:

In article ,
"Pete C." wrote:

"Peer pressure" is itself psyco-babble utter nonsense, just a PC version
of the "They made me do it" crap. Females appear to be predisposed to
eating disorders and the noted clusters are simply the result of the
same trigger affecting multiple susceptible persons.

Just like germs infecting susceptible people?

Not just like, but similar. I expect that in those clusters the trigger
is most likely the presence of a particularly attractive female i.e.
competition for the more desirable potential mates, and it is this local
competition triggering the disorder, not any "peer pressure" or media
barrages of attractive females. There can be tons of images of
attractive females in the media, but if they aren't in the local
population then they aren't competition.

Pete C. wrote:

No, they are most certainly predisposed to eating disorders. It is not
society that imposes an image of beauty, it is evolution that has
females competing to attract the best potential mate. If it was not an
evolutionary predisposition, eating disorder rates would be comparable
in males, who are equally subjected to images of beauty. PC or not, it
is a fact that female behavior is more driven by mating instinct than
that of males.

Men (whether they realize it or not) seek out women with curves and
shape. Child bearing and nuturing features, y'know? So they (the men)
can sow their seed and spread their own DNA most effectively....
Women getting bizarrely skinny does not match this image. It is a
psychological abberation rather than predisposition.

Goomba38 wrote:

Pete C. wrote:

No, they are most certainly predisposed to eating disorders. It is not
society that imposes an image of beauty, it is evolution that has
females competing to attract the best potential mate. If it was not an
evolutionary predisposition, eating disorder rates would be comparable
in males, who are equally subjected to images of beauty. PC or not, it
is a fact that female behavior is more driven by mating instinct than
that of males.

Men (whether they realize it or not) seek out women with curves and
shape. Child bearing and nuturing features, y'know? So they (the men)
can sow their seed and spread their own DNA most effectively....
Women getting bizarrely skinny does not match this image. It is a
psychological abberation rather than predisposition.

First off, having "curves and shape" requires being in better shape and
not being significantly overweight. The increasing population of 300#ers
do not have "curves and shape", they have "ripples and weight".

Secondly, women getting bizarrely skinny represent the extreme of the
eating disorder, not the typical, though they are certainly more
recognizable.

The bulk of women with eating disorders are going to either be slightly
overweight or seemingly a reasonable weight and the eating disorder will
be a hidden one such as seemingly normal eating and then purging in
secret.