"cybercat" wrote
"Serene" wrote in message

Why dry beans? Is there any disadvantage to canned beans for soup *other
than cost*?

Salt levels.

That's a good point. I actually like using dried beans because they store
so well, and produce less waste. (Meaning the can.) But now that you speak
of it, they are also more pure. I use so much garlic in my black beans
that I don't think I have ever added salt. Pepper, for sure, and a bit of
vinegar, but not salt.

Yup, main reason in my house too is salt and other preservatives.

"cshenk" wrote in message
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"cybercat" wrote
"Serene" wrote in message

Why dry beans? Is there any disadvantage to canned beans for soup
*other than cost*?

Salt levels.

That's a good point. I actually like using dried beans because they store
so well, and produce less waste. (Meaning the can.) But now that you
speak of it, they are also more pure. I use so much garlic in my black
beans that I don't think I have ever added salt. Pepper, for sure, and a
bit of vinegar, but not salt.

Yup, main reason in my house too is salt and other preservatives.


I don't have any pressing reason to avoid salt, I just don't like a lot of
it.
Almost all packaged snacks, like chips or popcorn or nuts have too much.
The taste of it grosses me out and it makes me feel bad if I eat oversalted
stuff.

From the prepared things I have had, it seems most people like things
saltier than I do.

One thing I will never understand is people who add salt without even
tasting their food first. I have seen people add salt to canned SOUP, which
can have as much as a gram of salt per serving. Ugh.

"cybercat" wrote
"cshenk" wrote

*other than cost*?

Salt levels.

That's a good point. I actually like using dried beans because they
store

Yup, main reason in my house too is salt and other preservatives.

I don't have any pressing reason to avoid salt, I just don't like a lot of
it.

We don't have to be super careful, but Don has blood pressure problems if he
goes too much on the salt kick. Had a mini-stroke scare 3 years ago. After
careful testing, we found if he stays within the 2,000mg a day recommended,
he's fine. Thats not a hard target to hit but easy to slip over in a single
meal if you don't pay attention.

Almost all packaged snacks, like chips or popcorn or nuts have too much.
The taste of it grosses me out and it makes me feel bad if I eat
oversalted
stuff.

Same here. Same for Don. When you say 'makes you feel bad' do you have any
specific symptoms? Email me if you prefer, I promise I'm cool G. Address
is not munged.

One early sign fairly common to people who are salt reactive, is they can
hear the blood whooshing in their ears after a very salty meal. This is a
'not good thing' but it doesnt mean you are gonna suddenly keel over.

Oh, and don't worry about all the salt hype either. Recent studies show
that most folks are not very salt reactive or if they are, its often due to
a combination with a medication or a temporary thing like being pregnant.
That doesnt mean some are not reactive (Don is, I am not) but it's not quite
what it at first seems. It's a rote diagnosis from Docs to 'reduce your
salt intake' based not so much on true diagnostics of an individual's
reaction to it, as malpractice suits.

From the prepared things I have had, it seems most people like things
saltier than I do.

I've noticed as we have taken our salt down for Don, both Charlotte and I
are finding things too salty. We built a tolerance to it over the years and
were just not aware of it.

One thing I will never understand is people who add salt without even
tasting their food first. I have seen people add salt to canned SOUP,
which
can have as much as a gram of salt per serving. Ugh.

Grin, I used to do that.

One coda on the canned beans and salt. I havent noticed it being all that
high in most of them (there was one brand that was, but it was supposed to
be I think. A salty garlicy black bean paste meant as a condiment). It's
more like 'every little bit helps' in this case. If I shave off 200mg
sodium from a bean dish, I can use that for a family comfort food of salty
daikon pickles g.

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:22:56 -0400, "cshenk" wrote:

"kilikini" wrote
Sheldon wrote:

No disadvantage whatsoever... and dried beans ain't so cheap anymore
(typically over $1.25/lb in those one pound bags)..

My husband has been rather upset at the price of dried beans, lately.
Didn't they used to be about $.69 a bag? Now they're $1.25 to, in some
stores, $1.79 and the selection is really limited. Even in the Mexican
market it's the same deal.

Yup, they have gone up but not quite as much as that here. I think what is
going on is the stores see a cheap food and added a higher profit margin to
that one, so the overall other prices can stay a little lower?

You're absolutely correct about the canned beans. Save yourself some
money, time and energy and just buy those.

The cooking time on a stove is too much for me. With a crockpot, I still
like making my own but agree that in many recipes it's just sensible to use
a can. As Sheldon says, the small amount I *may* save isnt worth the time
and depending on your cooking method and energy costs, may be more expensive
in the long run to do dried!



for me, it depends on what i'm making. bean soup gets dried, chili
gets canned. (maybe i should try chili again with dried; i had tough
beans once, but maybe they were just old.)

your pal,
blake

"blake murphy"
"cshenk" wrote:

like making my own but agree that in many recipes it's just sensible to
use
a can. As Sheldon says, the small amount I *may* save isnt worth the time
and depending on your cooking method and energy costs, may be more
expensive
in the long run to do dried!

for me, it depends on what i'm making. bean soup gets dried, chili
gets canned. (maybe i should try chili again with dried; i had tough
beans once, but maybe they were just old.)

Same here except I do dried in chili too now. Could have been old beans
there. I'll add a reminder that for us, most of the reason for dried is a
small salt reduction (so we can save up that little bit for use in something
else and still fit in mandated Doc's limits for Don).

cshenk wrote:

"blake murphy"
"cshenk" wrote:

like making my own but agree that in many recipes it's just
sensible to use a can. As Sheldon says, the small amount I may
save isnt worth the time and depending on your cooking method and
energy costs, may be more expensive in the long run to do dried!

for me, it depends on what i'm making. bean soup gets dried, chili
gets canned. (maybe i should try chili again with dried; i had
tough beans once, but maybe they were just old.)

Same here except I do dried in chili too now. Could have been old
beans there. I'll add a reminder that for us, most of the reason for
dried is a small salt reduction (so we can save up that little bit
for use in something else and still fit in mandated Doc's limits for
Don).

Back when misc.survivalism discussed survival and survivalism, one
poster found some dried beans about ten years old. He cooked them;
they came out fine, but took a looong time to cook.

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"cshenk" wrote Almost all packaged snacks, like chips
or popcorn or nuts have too much.
The taste of it grosses me out and it makes me feel bad if I eat
oversalted
stuff.

Same here. Same for Don. When you say 'makes you feel bad' do you have
any specific symptoms?

What an interesting question. I tried to figure it out--I guess I feel
dehydrated
or something similar, like the salt is drawing me up and wrinkling me out,
lol!
It makes my throat feel bad. I guess it is almost like an irritant to me.
And of
course I mean too much, not just enough.

There is one salty food I can eat--feta! I love feta. I think the good
earthy
stink of the cheese overpowers the salt for me.

One early sign fairly common to people who are salt reactive, is they can
hear the blood whooshing in their ears after a very salty meal. This is a
'not good thing' but it doesnt mean you are gonna suddenly keel over.

Hmmm .... I don't think I hear this. I remember having fevers as a child
and hearing my heartbeat, thinking it was "devils marching."


Oh, and don't worry about all the salt hype either. Recent studies show
that most folks are not very salt reactive or if they are, its often due
to a combination with a medication or a temporary thing like being
pregnant. That doesnt mean some are not reactive (Don is, I am not) but
it's not quite what it at first seems. It's a rote diagnosis from Docs to
'reduce your salt intake' based not so much on true diagnostics of an
individual's reaction to it, as malpractice suits.

I definitley retain water, but eat a lot of potassium. Part of being the
Bean Queen and eating raw vegetables a lot. And cooked.


From the prepared things I have had, it seems most people like things
saltier than I do.

I've noticed as we have taken our salt down for Don, both Charlotte and I
are finding things too salty. We built a tolerance to it over the years
and were just not aware of it.

This makes sense. I have a sister, though who seems to have craved salt
from birth. I remember her shaking salt into her hand and eating it as a
child. She still eats salty snacks.

"cybercat" wrote
"cshenk" wrote

The taste of it grosses me out and it makes me feel bad if I eat
oversalted stuff.
Same here. Same for Don. When you say 'makes you feel bad' do you have
any specific symptoms?

What an interesting question. I tried to figure it out--I guess I feel
dehydrated or something similar, like the salt is drawing me up and
wrinkling me out, lol!

Humm! Not a hypertensive reaction there. Just a normal one.

It makes my throat feel bad. I guess it is almost like an irritant to me.
And of course I mean too much, not just enough.
There is one salty food I can eat--feta! I love feta. I think the good
earthy stink of the cheese overpowers the salt for me.

Grin, I *luv* feta!

One early sign fairly common to people who are salt reactive, is they can
hear the blood whooshing in their ears after a very salty meal. This is
a 'not good thing' but it doesnt mean you are gonna suddenly keel over.

Hmmm .... I don't think I hear this. I remember having fevers as a child
and hearing my heartbeat, thinking it was "devils marching."

No problem! It's just one of many things folks do not know can indicate
there might be a shift in blood pressure going on.

Oh, and don't worry about all the salt hype either. Recent studies show
that most folks are not very salt reactive or if they are, its often due
(snip)

I definitley retain water, but eat a lot of potassium. Part of being the
Bean Queen and eating raw vegetables a lot. And cooked.

Unless you retain water the the point of shoes not fitting, probably not an
issue there. Your Doc would know best of course, but seems to me from the
little bits we've discussed, you may well not have any medical need to
reduce salt intake. Rote diagnosis would be more likely (all peaople shold
eat less salt runs the rote, regardless if it affects you or not).

From the prepared things I have had, it seems most people like things
saltier than I do.

I've noticed as we have taken our salt down for Don, both Charlotte and I
are finding things too salty. We built a tolerance to it over the years
and were just not aware of it.

This makes sense. I have a sister, though who seems to have craved salt
from birth. I remember her shaking salt into her hand and eating it as a
child. She still eats salty snacks.

Hehe take her salt away for a 2 week time and see if she adds as much later
g. Yeah I know, she'd kill ya but think about it. The less salt one
eats, the less tolerance in taste for it one has. It never totally goes
away, but the tastebuds get more sensitive to it so a little goes a longer
way.

cyberBLOW sucked:


"cshenk" wrote Almost all packaged snacks, like chips
or popcorn or nuts have too much.

The taste of it grosses me out and it makes me feel bad if I eat
oversalted
stuff.

Same here. *Same for Don. *When you say 'makes you feel bad' do you have
any specific symptoms?

What an interesting question. I tried to figure it out--I guess I feel
dehydrated
or something similar, like the salt is drawing me up and wrinkling me out,
lol!
It makes my throat feel bad. I guess it is almost like an irritant to me.
And of
course I mean too much, not just enough.


You need to better master the fine points of the art of fellatio,
cyberpussy...

Or ask yer hubbie to drink pineapple juice, his ejaculate will taste
sweeter...


;-p


--
Best
Greg

"Gregory Morrow" wrote

oversalted stuff.

You need to better master the fine points of the art of fellatio,
cyberpussy...

Greg, you really should chill out. This was a perfectly normal conversation
on sodium reduction.