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Old 02-04-2008, 07:46 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
James Silverton[_2_]
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Hello, All!

It almost seems possible that there will be a change. Perhaps,
barbequed Mugabe with Sauce Robert might be appropriate (sorry).

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

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Old 02-04-2008, 08:07 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Dave Smith[_1_]
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James Silverton wrote:

Hello, All!

It almost seems possible that there will be a change. Perhaps,
barbequed Mugabe with Sauce Robert might be appropriate (sorry).


Good luck to them. It used to be a nice country and exported a lot
of agricultural products. The world blackballed Rhodesia because the
white government excluded blacks. The blacks won the civil war and
took it upon themselves to screw the whites. Mugabe's government
expropriated white owned farms, even those that the white had bought
from the government after the war. The land was then given to so
called veterans of the civil war, even though many of them were not
even born at the time of the war.

I recommend reading "When A Crocodile Eats The Sun" to see the
impact that Mugabe's regime has had on Zimbabwe. It left me
thinking that any group of people that can act so spitefully and so
stupidly do not deserve any help from the outside world. Some people
just need to let Darwinism do its job.


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Old 02-04-2008, 08:37 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Dave Bugg
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Dave Smith wrote:

....snip
I recommend reading "When A Crocodile Eats The Sun" to see the
impact that Mugabe's regime has had on Zimbabwe. It left me
thinking that any group of people that can act so spitefully and so
stupidly do not deserve any help from the outside world. Some people
just need to let Darwinism do its job.


Well stated, Dave.

--
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"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."


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Old 02-04-2008, 09:10 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Dave Smith[_1_]
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Blinky the Shark wrote:


I recommend reading "When A Crocodile Eats The Sun" to see the
impact that Mugabe's regime has had on Zimbabwe. It left me
thinking that any group of people that can act so spitefully and so
stupidly do not deserve any help from the outside world. Some people
just need to let Darwinism do its job.


On the whole, note how much more functional the African states are as a
result of the big push for independence starting about 50 years ago.
Right.


They are? Some of them had law and order and growing economies before
independence. Most of them seem to have regressed. Countries like
Zimbabwe used to export food but now they can't even feed themselves.
Billions of dollars in aid is sent in to help the people but it never seems
to get past those in a position to to demand a bribe.

FWIW, my nephew went to Uganda when he was in his late 20s. He was under
contract to an aid agency to organize some coops to market corn. He ended
up hiring my son, who was 19 at the time, to come over and help him because
he could not find anyone he could trust. Both he and my son were shaken
down by the cops a few times. Most of their agents could be trusted. After
a few years he packed it in.

My nephew recently forwarded a progress report from one of his more
reliable former employees over there. The company he was working for was
about to go under. They had bid on a contract to an aid
agency...indirectly. The were the 8th subcontractor down the line from the
original contract and could not afford to do the work for the amount bid.
Seven other contractors had raked off the profits.



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Old 02-04-2008, 09:14 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Blinky the Shark
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Dave Smith wrote:

James Silverton wrote:

Hello, All!

It almost seems possible that there will be a change. Perhaps,
barbequed Mugabe with Sauce Robert might be appropriate (sorry).


Good luck to them. It used to be a nice country and exported a lot
of agricultural products. The world blackballed Rhodesia because the
white government excluded blacks. The blacks won the civil war and
took it upon themselves to screw the whites. Mugabe's government
expropriated white owned farms, even those that the white had bought
from the government after the war. The land was then given to so
called veterans of the civil war, even though many of them were not
even born at the time of the war.

I recommend reading "When A Crocodile Eats The Sun" to see the
impact that Mugabe's regime has had on Zimbabwe. It left me
thinking that any group of people that can act so spitefully and so
stupidly do not deserve any help from the outside world. Some people
just need to let Darwinism do its job.


On the whole, note how much more functional the African states are as a
result of the big push for independence starting about 50 years ago.
Right.

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Old 02-04-2008, 09:36 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Pete C.
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Mark Thorson wrote:

Dave Smith wrote:

Blinky the Shark wrote:

On the whole, note how much more functional the African states are as a
result of the big push for independence starting about 50 years ago.
Right.


They are? Some of them had law and order and growing economies before
independence. Most of them seem to have regressed. Countries like
Zimbabwe used to export food but now they can't even feed themselves.
Billions of dollars in aid is sent in to help the people but it never seems
to get past those in a position to to demand a bribe.


I believe he was being sarcastic.


Unfortunately what many countries need is an iron fisted benevolent
dictator for the three or four generations it takes to develop the
critical mass of socio-political maturity to handle self governance.
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Old 02-04-2008, 09:58 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Dave Smith[_1_]
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"Pete C." wrote:


Unfortunately what many countries need is an iron fisted benevolent
dictator for the three or four generations it takes to develop the
critical mass of socio-political maturity to handle self governance.


We have had various international theme years. Maybe this year should be the
International Year of Honesty and Integrity where governments and aid agencies
review their programs to rid them of bribery and corruption. No more bribes for
police, no more rake-offs on aid contracts etc. If governments in these third
world country were run honestly there should be a little more credibility and, in
turn, greater respect for the current regimes. That should eliminate the constant
cycle of rebellion and reprisals that have kept most of them down for so many
years.


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Old 02-04-2008, 10:24 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Mark Thorson
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Default Zimbabwe

Dave Smith wrote:

Blinky the Shark wrote:

On the whole, note how much more functional the African states are as a
result of the big push for independence starting about 50 years ago.
Right.


They are? Some of them had law and order and growing economies before
independence. Most of them seem to have regressed. Countries like
Zimbabwe used to export food but now they can't even feed themselves.
Billions of dollars in aid is sent in to help the people but it never seems
to get past those in a position to to demand a bribe.


I believe he was being sarcastic.
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Old 03-04-2008, 12:21 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
Gregory Morrow[_2_]
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Pete C. wrote:

Mark Thorson wrote:

Dave Smith wrote:


Blinky the Shark wrote:


On the whole, note how much more functional the African states are as a
result of the big push for independence starting about 50 years ago.
Right.


They are? Some of them had law and order and growing economies before
independence. *Most of them seem to have regressed. *Countries like
Zimbabwe used to export food but now they can't even feed themselves.
Billions of dollars in aid is sent in to help the people but it never seems
to get past those in a position to to demand a bribe.


I believe he was being sarcastic.


Unfortunately what many countries need is an iron fisted benevolent
dictator for the three or four generations it takes to develop the
critical mass of socio-political maturity to handle self governance.- Hide quoted text -



Africa fared *far* better under colonialism...

Additionally, *all* aid to Africa should be ended, it does nothing but
go into the coffers of the wealthy few and props up the onerous
regimes...


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Greg


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Old 03-04-2008, 12:43 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
Dave Smith[_1_]
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Blinky the Shark wrote:


Apparently I needed big blinking sarcasm /sarcasm tags around what I
said. I guess the sarcastic negation "Right" with which I closed what I
said wasn't obvious enough.


He's Canadian, Blink. Naive is second only to maple syrup in their
national output.


Far too many handicaps have been sighted in the wild for me to be able
to keep them all straight.


I apologize for my naivety, but I have encountered too many PC types who would
actually believe that was true.


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Old 03-04-2008, 12:54 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
Blinky the Shark
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Default Zimbabwe

Dave Smith wrote:

Blinky the Shark wrote:


I recommend reading "When A Crocodile Eats The Sun" to see the impact
that Mugabe's regime has had on Zimbabwe. It left me thinking that
any group of people that can act so spitefully and so stupidly do not
deserve any help from the outside world. Some people just need to let
Darwinism do its job.


On the whole, note how much more functional the African states are as a
result of the big push for independence starting about 50 years ago.
Right.


They are? Some of them had law and order and growing economies before
independence. Most of them seem to have regressed.


Apparently I needed big blinking sarcasm /sarcasm tags around what I
said. I guess the sarcastic negation "Right" with which I closed what I
said wasn't obvious enough.


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Old 03-04-2008, 12:55 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
Blinky the Shark
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Default Zimbabwe

Mark Thorson wrote:

Dave Smith wrote:

Blinky the Shark wrote:

On the whole, note how much more functional the African states are as
a result of the big push for independence starting about 50 years ago.
Right.


They are? Some of them had law and order and growing economies before
independence. Most of them seem to have regressed. Countries like
Zimbabwe used to export food but now they can't even feed themselves.
Billions of dollars in aid is sent in to help the people but it never
seems to get past those in a position to to demand a bribe.


I believe he was being sarcastic.


I applaud your ability to read with comprehension, Mark. Thank you.


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Old 03-04-2008, 12:59 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
PeterLucas[_4_]
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"James Silverton" wrote in news:LvQIj.6287
$s27.979@trnddc02:

Hello, All!

It almost seems possible that there will be a change. Perhaps,
barbequed Mugabe with Sauce Robert might be appropriate (sorry).



What's the bet the Presidential candidate suddely dies?



--
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Brisbane
Australia

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

Edmund Burke.
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Old 03-04-2008, 01:00 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
Mark Thorson
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Default Zimbabwe

Blinky the Shark wrote:

Dave Smith wrote:

Blinky the Shark wrote:

On the whole, note how much more functional the African states are as a
result of the big push for independence starting about 50 years ago.
Right.


They are? Some of them had law and order and growing economies before
independence. Most of them seem to have regressed.


Apparently I needed big blinking sarcasm /sarcasm tags around what I
said. I guess the sarcastic negation "Right" with which I closed what I
said wasn't obvious enough.


He's Canadian, Blink. Naive is second only to maple syrup
in their national output.
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Old 03-04-2008, 01:08 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
Blinky the Shark
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Default Zimbabwe

Mark Thorson wrote:

Blinky the Shark wrote:

Dave Smith wrote:

Blinky the Shark wrote:

On the whole, note how much more functional the African states are as
a result of the big push for independence starting about 50 years
ago. Right.

They are? Some of them had law and order and growing economies before
independence. Most of them seem to have regressed.


Apparently I needed big blinking sarcasm /sarcasm tags around what I
said. I guess the sarcastic negation "Right" with which I closed what I
said wasn't obvious enough.


He's Canadian, Blink. Naive is second only to maple syrup in their
national output.


Far too many handicaps have been sighted in the wild for me to be able
to keep them all straight.


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