"Ophelia" wrote:

We have shallow pans like that to make pancakes/crepes on.

Do you mean "on" as opposed to off?

One would think someone from the UK would have at least a modicum of
English language skills... Ofailure she be tawkin' ebonics.

Sheldon wrote:
"Ophelia" wrote:

We have shallow pans like that to make pancakes/crepes on.

Do you mean "on" as opposed to off?

One would think someone from the UK would have at least a modicum of
English language skills... Ofailure she be tawkin' ebonics.

LOLOL that really is very funny coming from you)))

yes btw, we do cook the crepes ON the pan. What do you cook on, the
handle??

If you really want to play this game.. watch out)

Sheldon Sheldon wrote:

Commercial
kitchens use no cast iron cookware, there's no cooking benefit plus
it's highly reactive, requires maintenence, and is much too heavy...

They don't use it because they have more efficient heating and
because it's too heavy for all-day use. But for the casual home
cook, cast iron is great for searing steaks and retaining heat.

You'll never realize this, though, since you're ignorant.

I didn't have cast iron until just a couple years ago and I'm glad I
discovered it. My opinion was of course undecided until then.

-sw

They warp easily and require massive attention to prevent burning food.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Only if you don't know how to behave in a kitchen.

N.

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:13:32 -0700 (PDT), Sheldon
wrote:

. anyway all burning, regardless which cookware, even if food
is cooked on a stick over a flame, is due exclusively to the inability
of the cook and no other reason whatsoever.

You can blame it on the crystal palace.

Lou

In article ,
Julia Altshuler wrote:

There are more variables than just the type of metal.
Aluminum is generally nice to cook with because it's relatively
inexpensive and can therefore be made thicker which distributes heat
evenly. On the other hand, thicker can mean heavier which can be a
disadvantage for things like flipping pancakes.
There's also how well the pan is made, whether the bottom is even,
whether the surface is smooth. There's good quality aluminum and bad.
You're going to have to try your pan and get back to us with how you
liked it.

As you say, the way the pan is made is most important. Still, it's
interesting to look at the basic metal also.

Aluminum is one of the most expensive of the common metals. It runs
something under a dollar a pound (US dollar). It is a also the lightest.

Copper is a little more expensive, more like a dollar a pound.

Steel is about twenty cents a pound.


http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pu...prices1998.pdf

[and yes, it's more expensive ten years later]


The main Alzheimer's objection to aluminum is based on a tiny news story
that spun out of control until it became urban myth. More information he

http://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/valentino.asp


And to this day, many people still won't use aluminum cookware because
"they've heard bad things about it".

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Dan Abel Dan Abel wrote:

Copper is a little more expensive, more like a dollar a pound.

We had a guy in Austina couple weeks ago who fried himself nearly
to death breaking into a electric substation to steal copper wire.
He didn't do it for $1/lb. More like $4/lb.

Of course the years of skin grafting and hospital bills will be in
the millions, all at taxpayers expense (since he's technically in
custody for burglary and theft).

Dan Abel wrote:

As you say, the way the pan is made is most important. Still, it's
interesting to look at the basic metal also.

Aluminum is one of the most expensive of the common metals. It runs
something under a dollar a pound (US dollar). It is a also the lightest.

Copper is a little more expensive, more like a dollar a pound.

Steel is about twenty cents a pound.


Good information to have, thanks. That's the cost of the raw
ingredient. What about differences in cost for forging the metal into
cookware? Usually, the cost of the ingredients in only a small part of
the cost of the finished product. There's also: labor, transportation,
equipment to make the product, supply and demand considerations. (If
gadgient metal is less expensive in its raw state and less expensive to
produce, but no one wants it because they prefer widgient cookware, the
cost of a finished widgient pot in a gourmet store might be less because
the factory is producing widgient pots by the hundreds of thousands
where they're only producing gadgient pots by the hundreds.)


Like everyone else, I had to make decisions on what cookware to own
based on cost, what I already had, what I like, and shelf space. I
don't have a different pot for every dish. I have heavy stainless pots
and pans, one quite heavy cast iron fry pan, an iron and enamel dutch
oven, and I bake in glass.


--Lia

"Dan Abel" wrote in message

Aluminum is one of the most expensive of the common metals. It runs
something under a dollar a pound (US dollar). It is a also the lightest.

Copper is a little more expensive, more like a dollar a pound.

Steel is about twenty cents a pound.


http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pu...prices1998.pdf

[and yes, it's more expensive ten years later]

Not just a little, but incredibly higher. Check out metal prices today and
you'll be shocked. Try buying steel pipe for $15 to $50 a foot depending on
size. Copper tubing will put you in shock.

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
"Dan Abel" wrote in message

Aluminum is one of the most expensive of the common metals. It runs
something under a dollar a pound (US dollar). It is a also the
lightest. Copper is a little more expensive, more like a dollar a pound.

Steel is about twenty cents a pound.


http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pu...prices1998.pdf

[and yes, it's more expensive ten years later]

Not just a little, but incredibly higher. Check out metal prices
today and you'll be shocked. Try buying steel pipe for $15 to $50 a
foot depending on size. Copper tubing will put you in shock.

We have theft of copper wire and tubing around here. Construction sites are
locked down, locked up and have security 24/7.
Janet

Janet Bostwick wrote:

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

Not just a little, but incredibly higher. Check out metal prices
today and you'll be shocked. Try buying steel pipe for $15 to $50 a
foot depending on size. Copper tubing will put you in shock.

We have theft of copper wire and tubing around here. Construction
sites are locked down, locked up and have security 24/7. Janet

Also thieves are targeting empty houses, stripping out copper pipes.




Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:11:52 -0400, Julia Altshuler
wrote:

Lou Decruss wrote:

This is more a curiosity thing. I've got lots of SS and cast. I just
want to know what the aluminum is like to cook with. Kinda like a
spice I'm not familiar with.


There are more variables than just the type of metal.
Aluminum is generally nice to cook with because it's relatively
inexpensive and can therefore be made thicker which distributes heat
evenly. On the other hand, thicker can mean heavier which can be a
disadvantage for things like flipping pancakes.
There's also how well the pan is made, whether the bottom is even,
whether the surface is smooth. There's good quality aluminum and bad.
You're going to have to try your pan and get back to us with how you
liked it.

I finally used it to "try" to make crepes. I didn't like it. I'll
keep making them with non-stick. Crepes are the only thing I use
non-stick for.

The main Alzheimer's objection to aluminum is based on a tiny news story
that spun out of control until it became urban myth. More information he

http://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/valentino.asp


Take especial look at the last paragraph.

Thanks for the link. I was aware of the myth. Personally I'd be more
afraid of non-stick.

Lou

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 02:19:03 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


"Dan Abel" wrote in message

Aluminum is one of the most expensive of the common metals. It runs
something under a dollar a pound (US dollar). It is a also the lightest.

Copper is a little more expensive, more like a dollar a pound.

Steel is about twenty cents a pound.


http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pu...prices1998.pdf

[and yes, it's more expensive ten years later]

Not just a little, but incredibly higher. Check out metal prices today and
you'll be shocked. Try buying steel pipe for $15 to $50 a foot depending on
size. Copper tubing will put you in shock.

I had to put a water heater in for a friend a few months ago and had
to make a few pipe changes. I was astonished at the price. Even
electrical conduit is crazy.

Lou

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:40:55 -0400, George
wrote:

Lou Decruss wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:48:48 +0200, ChattyCathy
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:32:32 -0600, Lou Decruss wrote:



Someone here was saying how nice the heat distribution was with them so
I wanted to try cooking in one as I've never used one. What's the
objection to aluminum?
Heh. In my younger (and more stupid) days I had some aluminum pots and
pans. Bloody awful things. They warped, stained easily (I found them a
b*tch to clean) - and I am almost convinced they were not good for my
health either... Needless to say, I don't own any aluminum cookware
anymore. Good quality SS is the way to go, IMHO.

This is more a curiosity thing. I've got lots of SS and cast. I just
want to know what the aluminum is like to cook with. Kinda like a
spice I'm not familiar with.

Lou

They warp easily and require massive attention to prevent burning food.

This isn't warped, but it did stick pretty bad.

Lou

Lou Decruss wrote:

The main Alzheimer's objection to aluminum is based on a tiny news story
that spun out of control until it became urban myth. More information he

http://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/valentino.asp


Take especial look at the last paragraph.

Thanks for the link. I was aware of the myth. Personally I'd be more
afraid of non-stick.

What? Even after reading this?

http://www.caic.org.au/jws/medical/aluminum.htm