On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:18:27 -0400, Goomba38
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Our little Dinner Club chose Scotland as one of its countries last
year, and I must say that the colcannon was an absolute hit. I don't
even like cabbage and we don't often have potatoes, but I agree. It
was a really good taste and I didn't expect it, and I am glad I have
had it.

How does colcannon differ from bubble and squeak? I grew up eating that
with leftover cabbage and potatoes, so fail to understand the difference
here?

I maybe be wrong, since I'm not British.... but I think the main
difference is a wee bit o' meat in the bubble & squeak.

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sf wrote on Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:12:17 -0700:

?? wrote:
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?? Our little Dinner Club chose Scotland as one of its
?? countries last year, and I must say that the colcannon
?? was an absolute hit. I don't even like cabbage and we
?? don't often have potatoes, but I agree. It was a really
?? good taste and I didn't expect it, and I am glad I
?? have had it.
??
?? How does colcannon differ from bubble and squeak? I grew
?? up eating that with leftover cabbage and potatoes, so fail
?? to understand the difference here?

s I maybe be wrong, since I'm not British.... but I think the
s main difference is a wee bit o' meat in the bubble & squeak.

I mentioned I had not previously wanted to try colcannon and
the same applied to "Bubble and Squeak". My impression is that
colcannon is not fried and B&S is. My one attempt to make
colcannon used sliced cabbage cooked for 5 minutes.

Tho' colcannon may add other vegetables, B&S is more likely to
use any left-overs and sometimes meat is added to it. Pictures I
have seen of B&S make me suspect that the cabbage may have
received the traditional British cooking (20 minutes or more)
and then cooked agan! Now, where the name bubble and squeak
comes from, I'm not inclined investigate :-)

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

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"James Silverton" wrote in message
news:LR7Ej.4374Pictures I
have seen of B&S make me suspect that the cabbage may have received the
traditional British cooking (20 minutes or more)

LOL true in the old days but not now)

I steam all my greens very lightly

James Silverton wrote:

I mentioned I had not previously wanted to try colcannon and the same
applied to "Bubble and Squeak". My impression is that colcannon is not
fried and B&S is. My one attempt to make colcannon used sliced cabbage
cooked for 5 minutes.

Tho' colcannon may add other vegetables, B&S is more likely to use any
left-overs and sometimes meat is added to it. Pictures I have seen of
B&S make me suspect that the cabbage may have received the traditional
British cooking (20 minutes or more) and then cooked agan! Now, where
the name bubble and squeak comes from, I'm not inclined investigate :-)

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

My mother said it came from the sound of the steam building up and
causing bubbles and pipsqueak type sounds as you fried it.
She always used leftover cabbage, potatoes (perhaps a few odd cooked
carrots) from an Italian version of "New England boiled dinner" that we
made using pepperoni instead of any other cut of meat. It was delicious
the first time and then again recreated into bubble and squeak.

On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:16:00 -0700 (PDT), Sheldon
wrote:

"Dan Rouse wrote:
"Terry" wrote
... I am not much of a fruit or vegetable kind of guy.
I eat meat and potatoes.

A friend suggested those new V8 juices. ?I still have to force myself
to have one, but they are quite good and good for you.

Regular V8 tastes like tomato juice but the Fusion drinks are like
fruit juice.

According to the ingredients label, the V8 V-Fusion drinks are a
reconstituted blend of vegetables (such as sweet potatoes and purple
carrots) combined with a blend of fruit juices from concentrate (such as
apple, white grape, pomegranite, blueberry). If I recall correctly, these
are also fortified with Vitamin C (Ascorbic acid). It doesn't appear that
these drinks have any added sugar either.

So far, I have seen that there are four varieties of the V-Fusion drinks:
Peach Mango, Strawberry Banana, Pomegranite Blueberry, and Acai Berry. The
actual blend of vegetables and fruit juices varies depending on the specific
V-Fusion variety.

Tastewise--I would also agree, they taste more like fruit juice.

Check their nutritional values... I don't think any of those products
are beneficially healthful to any meaningful degree. You are much
better off eating real fruit and vegies.

http://www.campbellwellness.com/prod....asp?brandID=8

You gotta be pretty friggin' lazy to get your fruit as juice outta a
can... don't you have teeth, I bet you haven't been to a dentist since
3rd grade... how much effort is it to peel and chew a juicy navel
orange or a ruby red grapefruit. The market always has a selection of
beautiful fresh fruit and veggies... and you can see what you're
eating. Eating your fruit and veggies out of a can is tantamount to
eating pre ground mystery meat... they gotta do something with all the
buggy bruised rotting produce that's truly only fit for the
composter... squish it all up, strain out the maggots, can it, and
sell it to the pinheads. What a bunch of imbeciles, they'll eat shit
if it's served up in a purty package.

I never really got the point of telling people to eat fruit instead of
drinking juice at *all*. I don't drink juice as a substitute for
fruit. I eat as much fruit and vegetables as I want AND I have a glass
of juice now and then because I like juice and it's healthful. A piece
of fruit or vegetable is not a beverage, so it doesn't fulfill the
same desire.

I normally buy the V8 Fusion juices when they're on sale or the
not-from-concentrate orange juices or orange-pineapple juices. I'm not
big on red juices.

Laurie

On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:46:10 +0000 (UTC), enigma
wrote:

Terry wrote in

oups.com:

I am not much of a fruit or vegetable kind of guy.
I eat meat and potatoes.

A friend suggested those new V8 juices. I still have to
force myself to have one, but they are quite good and good
for you.

they're not nearly as good for you as real juice. they are
also *way* too sweet.

They are real juice.

You might be thinking of V8 Splash, which is a juice drink. I really
like most of the V8 Fusion flavors (not fond of Tropical Orange but
love Peach Mango), but I've only tried the V8 Splash a couple of
times. I think I tried the low-cal ones. They were thin and pretty
sweet; there's more body to the Fusion drinks.

Regular V8 tastes like tomato juice but the Fusion drinks
are like fruit juice.

regular V8 tastes like a salt lick. i much prefer Knudsen's
Very Veggie, if i'm not juicing my own.
really, why should there be HFCS in juice?
lee

I like V8, but I've never tried anything else other than store brands.
My mom gave me an ancient juicer, but it was missing the thing that
pushes the food down, so I tried shoving celery with a knife handle
and ended up with about 1/4 cup of bright-green yuck. At some point
I'll try juicing at home again. I really enjoy utilizing fresh
veggies.

As far as HFCS, it isn't in juice of course so there isn't any in V8
Fusion. But I didn't realize it was in V8 splash. It's one thing to
have it in junk products, but it's really bad when it's in stuff
that's touted as healthful. Then again, I pretty much automatically
consider juice drinks to be more of a soft drink than a juice. It's
unfortunate that people are so in the habit of calling it *juice* when
it's not 100 percent juice.

I also find it bothersome that HFCS is in yogurt -- in lots of brands.
I didn't do an extensive search, but I saw it on several different
labels.

Laurei

Laurie S. wrote in
:

On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:46:10 +0000 (UTC), enigma
wrote:
they're not nearly as good for you as real juice. they are
also *way* too sweet.

They are real juice.

You might be thinking of V8 Splash, which is a juice drink.
I really like most of the V8 Fusion flavors (not fond of
Tropical Orange but love Peach Mango), but I've only tried
the V8 Splash a couple of times. I think I tried the
low-cal ones. They were thin and pretty sweet; there's more
body to the Fusion drinks.

Regular V8 tastes like tomato juice but the Fusion drinks
are like fruit juice.

regular V8 tastes like a salt lick. i much prefer
Knudsen's
Very Veggie, if i'm not juicing my own.
really, why should there be HFCS in juice?

I like V8, but I've never tried anything else other than
store brands.

store brands will likely be relabelled V8. try finding some
Knudsen's. it's really better than V8.

As far as HFCS, it isn't in juice of course so there isn't
any in V8 Fusion. But I didn't realize it was in V8 splash.
It's one thing to have it in junk products, but it's really
bad when it's in stuff that's touted as healthful. Then
again, I pretty much automatically consider juice drinks to
be more of a soft drink than a juice. It's unfortunate that
people are so in the habit of calling it *juice* when it's
not 100 percent juice.

many products are touted as "healthful" in the US, even when
they obviously are NOT. i just saw a 2 page ad in a women's
magazine at the doctor's office that was pushing potato chips
{!} as a part of a "busy family's healthy diet". ok, suuuure.
V8 Splash is a junk drink.

i like this from the V8 Fusion FAQ:

What vegetable and fruit juices are included in V8
V-Fusion®? Strawberry Banana contains the juice of 10
vegetables and fruits: sweet potatoes, carrots, tomatoes,
beets, white grapes, oranges, apples, strawberries,
bananas, banana puree.

that's really 9, not 10. banana & banana puree might be
different ingredients but they are the same fruit.

Tropical Orange contains the juice of 6 vegetables and
fruits: sweet potatoes, carrots, yellow tomatoes, white
grapes, oranges, pineapple.

ok

Peach Mango contains the juice of 8 vegetables and fruits:
sweet potatoes, yellow tomatoes, yellow carrots, carrots,
white grapes, oranges, peaches, mango puree.

again, carrots are carrots. so one is orange & one is
yellow...

Pomegranate Blueberry contains the juice of 8 vegetables
and fruits: sweet potatoes, purple carrots, tomatoes,
carrots, apples, white grapes, pomegranates, blueberries.

2 colors of carrot again.

Açai Mixed Berry contains the juice of 8 vegetables and
fruits: sweet potatoes, purple carrots, carrots, apples,
white grapes, açai, blueberries, limes.

and again...
not to mention that white grape & apple juices are both empty
calorie sweeteners.

funny how marketing works.


I also find it bothersome that HFCS is in yogurt -- in lots
of brands. I didn't do an extensive search, but I saw it on
several different labels.

unless it's labelled "organic", any yogurt in the US probably
has HFCS. have you read your bread labels recently?
i just sent Ben & Jerry's a blistering email because *all*
their ice cream labels say "all natural" in a big banner at
the top, but most of them contain HFCS, which is NOT a
natural product & is therefore false advertising. it takes
me a long time to shop for groceries because i read every
damn label, even on items i've previously purchased, because
you never know when a company will start using cheap crap
ingredients to save a dime. pickles! HFCS in freaking
pickles! sigh
lee sent the child back to the cereal aisle when he brought
me something with artificial sweetener, & said it didn't have
HFCS... told him to get *sugar*
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