"Dan Rouse wrote:
"Terry" wrote
... I am not much of a fruit or vegetable kind of guy.
I eat meat and potatoes.

A friend suggested those new V8 juices. �I still have to force myself
to have one, but they are quite good and good for you.

Regular V8 tastes like tomato juice but the Fusion drinks are like
fruit juice.

According to the ingredients label, the V8 V-Fusion drinks are a
reconstituted blend of vegetables (such as sweet potatoes and purple
carrots) combined with a blend of fruit juices from concentrate (such as
apple, white grape, pomegranite, blueberry). If I recall correctly, these
are also fortified with Vitamin C (Ascorbic acid). It doesn't appear that
these drinks have any added sugar either.

So far, I have seen that there are four varieties of the V-Fusion drinks:
Peach Mango, Strawberry Banana, Pomegranite Blueberry, and Acai Berry. The
actual blend of vegetables and fruit juices varies depending on the specific
V-Fusion variety.

Tastewise--I would also agree, they taste more like fruit juice.

Check their nutritional values... I don't think any of those products
are beneficially healthful to any meaningful degree. You are much
better off eating real fruit and vegies.

http://www.campbellwellness.com/prod....asp?brandID=8

You gotta be pretty friggin' lazy to get your fruit as juice outta a
can... don't you have teeth, I bet you haven't been to a dentist since
3rd grade... how much effort is it to peel and chew a juicy navel
orange or a ruby red grapefruit. The market always has a selection of
beautiful fresh fruit and veggies... and you can see what you're
eating. Eating your fruit and veggies out of a can is tantamount to
eating pre ground mystery meat... they gotta do something with all the
buggy bruised rotting produce that's truly only fit for the
composter... squish it all up, strain out the maggots, can it, and
sell it to the pinheads. What a bunch of imbeciles, they'll eat shit
if it's served up in a purty package.

"Sheldon" wrote in message
...
"Dan Rouse wrote:
"Terry" wrote
.... I am not much of a fruit or vegetable kind of guy.
I eat meat and potatoes.

A friend suggested those new V8 juices. ?I still have to force myself
to have one, but they are quite good and good for you.

Regular V8 tastes like tomato juice but the Fusion drinks are like
fruit juice.

According to the ingredients label, the V8 V-Fusion drinks are a
reconstituted blend of vegetables (such as sweet potatoes and purple
carrots) combined with a blend of fruit juices from concentrate (such as
apple, white grape, pomegranite, blueberry). If I recall correctly, these
are also fortified with Vitamin C (Ascorbic acid). It doesn't appear that
these drinks have any added sugar either.

So far, I have seen that there are four varieties of the V-Fusion drinks:
Peach Mango, Strawberry Banana, Pomegranite Blueberry, and Acai Berry. The
actual blend of vegetables and fruit juices varies depending on the
specific
V-Fusion variety.

Tastewise--I would also agree, they taste more like fruit juice.

Check their nutritional values... I don't think any of those products
are beneficially healthful to any meaningful degree. You are much
better off eating real fruit and vegies.

http://www.campbellwellness.com/prod....asp?brandID=8

[snip...]

(To which I reply...)

Quoted from that same website--

Acai Berry:

V8® V.Fusion Juice
Acai Berry
Nutrition Facts*
Amount Per Serving (serving size) = 8 oz.

Calories 110
Total Fat 0g
Sat. Fat 0g
Trans Fat 0g
Cholesterol 0mg
Sodium 70mg
Potassium 240mg
Total Carb. 27g
Dietary Fiber 0g

Sugars 26g
Protein 0g


% Daily Values**
Vitamin A 15%
Vitamin C 100%
Calcium 2%
Iron 2%


V8® V.Fusion Juice
Peach Mango
Nutrition Facts*
Amount Per Serving (serving size) = 8 oz.

Calories 120
Total Fat 0g
Sat. Fat 0g
Trans Fat 0g
Cholesterol 0mg
Sodium 70mg
Potassium 210mg
Total Carb. 28g
Dietary Fiber 0g

Sugars 26g
Protein 1g


% Daily Values**
Vitamin A 20%
Vitamin C 100%
Vitamin E 10%
Calcium 2%
Iron 2%
Folic Acid 2%
Magnesium 4%


V8® V.Fusion Juice
Pomegranate Blueberry
Nutrition Facts*
Amount Per Serving (serving size) = 8 oz.

Calories 100
Total Fat 0g
Sat. Fat 0g
Trans Fat 0g
Cholesterol 0mg
Sodium 60mg
Potassium 280mg
Total Carb. 25g
Dietary Fiber 0g

Sugars 23g
Protein 0g


% Daily Values**
Vitamin A 15%
Vitamin C 100%
Vitamin E 10%
Calcium 2%
Iron 2%
Folic Acid 2%
Magnesium 4%


V8® V.Fusion Juice
Strawberry Banana
Nutrition Facts*
Amount Per Serving (serving size) = 8 oz.

Calories 120
Total Fat 0g
Sat. Fat 0g
Trans Fat 0g
Cholesterol 0mg
Sodium 70mg
Potassium 250mg
Total Carb. 28g
Dietary Fiber 0g

Sugars 25g
Protein 1g


% Daily Values**
Vitamin A 70%
Vitamin C 100%
Vitamin E 10%
Calcium 2%
Iron 2%
Folic Acid 2%
Magnesium 4%


.... and so on, since they actually list seven different varieties of
V-Fusion drinks. I wasn't aware there was also a Tropical Orange, and they
also have three light varieties. The asterisks listed in the nutrition
information quoted from that website represent:

* The nutrition information contained in this list of Nutrition Facts is
based on our current data. However, because the data may change from time to
time, this information may not always be identical to the nutritional label
information of products on shelf.

** % Daily Values (DV) are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.

Either way, I'll drink a V-Fusion instead of drinking a soda drink (since
the soda is almost all sugar/corn syrup and artificial flavor with
essentially zero nutritional value). I still like the Acai Berry and
Pomegranate Blueberry varieties among all the other varieties.

Others may vary in their own opinions.

On Mar 16, 7:16 pm, Sheldon wrote:
"Dan Rouse wrote:
"Terry" wrote

... I am not much of a fruit or vegetable kind of guy.



I eat meat and potatoes.

A friend suggested those new V8 juices. �I still have to force myself
to have one, but they are quite good and good for you.

Regular V8 tastes like tomato juice but the Fusion drinks are like
fruit juice.

According to the ingredients label, the V8 V-Fusion drinks are a
reconstituted blend of vegetables (such as sweet potatoes and purple
carrots) combined with a blend of fruit juices from concentrate (such as
apple, white grape, pomegranite, blueberry). If I recall correctly, these
are also fortified with Vitamin C (Ascorbic acid). It doesn't appear that
these drinks have any added sugar either.

So far, I have seen that there are four varieties of the V-Fusion drinks:
Peach Mango, Strawberry Banana, Pomegranite Blueberry, and Acai Berry. The
actual blend of vegetables and fruit juices varies depending on the specific
V-Fusion variety.

Tastewise--I would also agree, they taste more like fruit juice.

Check their nutritional values... I don't think any of those products
are beneficially healthful to any meaningful degree. You are much
better off eating real fruit and vegies.

http://www.campbellwellness.com/prod....asp?brandID=8

You gotta be pretty friggin' lazy to get your fruit as juice outta a
can... don't you have teeth, I bet you haven't been to a dentist since
3rd grade... how much effort is it to peel and chew a juicy navel
orange or a ruby red grapefruit. The market always has a selection of
beautiful fresh fruit and veggies... and you can see what you're
eating. Eating your fruit and veggies out of a can is tantamount to
eating pre ground mystery meat... they gotta do something with all the
buggy bruised rotting produce that's truly only fit for the
composter... squish it all up, strain out the maggots, can it, and
sell it to the pinheads. What a bunch of imbeciles, they'll eat shit
if it's served up in a purty package.

You should like such a nice guy.
I bet you are the life of any party.

Terry wrote on Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:47:29 -0700 (PDT):

T I am not much of a fruit or vegetable kind of guy.
T I eat meat and potatoes.

I wonder how many people are with Terry?

I have to remind myself frequently to eat an adequate amount of
non-starchy vegetables and I seldom have a craving for any of
them. Asparagus perhaps, since I cannot bring myself to afford
it during a good deal of the year and cauliflower, which goes
well with the common sauces. French beans are another vegetable
that rather like.

I find also that I mostly eat fruit at breakfast time: banana
and grapefruit or melons mostly. I also have a glass of orange
juice at breakfast so I suppose I am eating an "adequate" amount
of fruit. One of the problems I find with fruit, call me lazy if
you wish, is that you usually can't eat the whole thing and you
have to find a place to dispose of a core or rind if you are
eating it outside a meal. A banana is not bad, non-messy and you
can remove the peel at once and hold the fruit especially if you
like them barely ripe as I do. The seedless grape is about the
only other fruit that I like eating between meals. Of course, if
you can find wild berries and eat them then and there, they are
also good but store-bought berries usually require extra sugar
for my taste.
..



James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On Mar 17, 8:41*am, "James Silverton"
wrote:
*Terry *wrote *on Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:47:29 -0700 (PDT):

T I am not much of a fruit or vegetable kind of guy.
*T I eat meat and potatoes.

*I wonder how many people are with Terry?

I have to remind myself frequently to eat an adequate amount of
non-starchy vegetables and I seldom have a craving for any of
them. Asparagus perhaps, since I cannot bring myself to afford
it during a good deal of the year and cauliflower, which goes
well with the common sauces. French beans are another vegetable
that rather like.

I find also that I mostly eat fruit at breakfast time: banana
and grapefruit or melons mostly. I also have a glass of orange
juice at breakfast so I suppose I am eating an "adequate" amount
of fruit. One of the problems I find with fruit, call me lazy if
you wish, is that you usually can't eat the whole thing and you
have to find a place to dispose of a core or rind if you are
eating it outside a meal. A banana is not bad, non-messy and you
can remove the peel at once and hold the fruit especially if you
like them barely ripe as I do. The seedless grape is about the
only other fruit that I like eating between meals. Of course, if
you can find wild berries and eat them then and there, they are
also good but store-bought berries usually require extra sugar
for my taste.

Not me. From a kid who wouldn't eat any vegetables, I grew up into
an adult who positively craves them on a daily basis. If I had only
myself to cook for, I'd consider what vegetables I'd like to eat and
then
think about what meat would go with them.

I'm rarely anywhere that I couldn't find a place to dispose of fruit
remains.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy wrote on Mon, 17 Mar 2008 06:31:10 -0700 (PDT):

CH On Mar 17, 8:41 am, "James Silverton"
CH wrote:
?? Terry wrote on Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:47:29 -0700 (PDT):
??
T I am not much of a fruit or vegetable kind of guy.
T I eat meat and potatoes.
??
?? I wonder how many people are with Terry?
??
?? I have to remind myself frequently to eat an adequate
?? amount of non-starchy vegetables and I seldom have a
?? craving for any of them. Asparagus perhaps, since I cannot
?? bring myself to afford it during a good deal of the year
?? and cauliflower, which goes well with the common sauces.
?? French beans are another vegetable that rather like.
??
?? I find also that I mostly eat fruit at breakfast time:
banana
?? and grapefruit or melons mostly. I also have a glass of
?? orange juice at breakfast so I suppose I am eating an
?? "adequate" amount of fruit. One of the problems I find
?? with fruit, call me lazy if you wish, is that you usually
?? can't eat the whole thing and you have to find a place to
?? dispose of a core or rind if you are eating it outside a
?? meal. A banana is not bad, non-messy and you can remove
?? the peel at once and hold the fruit especially if you like
?? them barely ripe as I do. The seedless grape is about the
?? only other fruit that I like eating between meals. Of
?? course, if you can find wild berries and eat them then and
?? there, they are also good but store-bought berries usually
?? require extra sugar for my taste.

CH Not me. From a kid who wouldn't eat any vegetables, I grew
CH up into an adult who positively craves them on a daily
CH basis. If I had only myself to cook for, I'd consider what
CH vegetables I'd like to eat and then
CH think about what meat would go with them.

CH I'm rarely anywhere that I couldn't find a place to dispose
CH of fruit remains.

A minor problem, especially if I use a waste basket, is that I
can smell the remains after an houtr or two!


James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

"l, not -l" wrote in message
et...

On 17-Mar-2008, "James Silverton"
wrote:

Terry wrote on Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:47:29 -0700 (PDT):

T I am not much of a fruit or vegetable kind of guy.
T I eat meat and potatoes.

I wonder how many people are with Terry?

I used to be; but, had to change my ways for health reasons.
Now I eat, and
enjoy, many cruciferous vegetables, tomatoes and onions. I
regularly
marinate and roast zuchinni and yellow squash with peppers and
onions,
sometimes mushrooms (are they considered vegetables?). I
have always
enjoyed spinach and greens (mustard, turnip and especially
collard, but
didn't eat them much in days-gone-by, now I also have them
regularly; greens
with smoked pork shanks are among my favorite things to eat.

Along these lines, I was in Whole Foods today and they were
giving out samples of Colcannon. This is mashed potatoes with
finely chopped cooked cabbage, an Irish dish. I'd never wanted
to try it but it was surprisingly good, Here's a recipe from a
Scottish source:
http://tinyurl.com/yuvrf7

It's a bit sweeter and more fluid than mashed potatoes. If you
don't want to use butter or margarine, Butter Flavor: Molly
Butter and the like, work too and the ratio of cabbage to potato
(1:1) can be reduced. Don't cook the cabbage for more than 6
minutes. I suspect the cabbage was cooked to death in the
original Irish recipe :-) It can be made in a food processor.



--
Jim Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

James Silverton wrote:

Along these lines, I was in Whole Foods today and they were
giving out samples of Colcannon. This is mashed potatoes with
finely chopped cooked cabbage, an Irish dish. I'd never wanted
to try it but it was surprisingly good, Here's a recipe from a
Scottish source:
http://tinyurl.com/yuvrf7

It's a bit sweeter and more fluid than mashed potatoes. If you
don't want to use butter or margarine, Butter Flavor: Molly
Butter and the like, work too and the ratio of cabbage to potato

That's Molly McButter to you, pal:

http://www.mollymcbutter.com/

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:30:56 GMT, "James Silverton"
wrote:

Along these lines, I was in Whole Foods today and they were
giving out samples of Colcannon. This is mashed potatoes with
finely chopped cooked cabbage, an Irish dish. I'd never wanted
to try it but it was surprisingly good, Here's a recipe from a
Scottish source:
http://tinyurl.com/yuvrf7

I went to Dublin summer before last and actually looked for
Calcannon... but it was nowhere to be found. The staff at my B&B said
they'd heard of it, but had never eaten it. Not a popular dish over
there anymore, at least in the city. Calcannon reminds me of Bubble
and Squeak, which was my DD's favorite meal as a kid.
http://www.anenglishmaninamerica.co....eak-recipe.php

Here's my favorite version

BUBBLE-AND-SQUEAK
ala: The Frugal Gourmet

3 or more unpeeled potatoes (depending on size, boiled
(this meal is perfect for left over potatoes, so plan ahead)
4 cups cabbage, chopped, blanched
1/2 med yellow onion, peeled, chopped
1 zucchini, shredded or julienned
3 or more slices bacon, browned, chopped; reserve the fat
1/4 cup diced ham (optional)
fresh coarse-ground black pepper, to taste
salt to taste

Fry the bacon and boil the potatoes, which may be cut up into thirds
if you like; blanch the chopped cabbage in the potato water. Mash the
potatoes into rough lumps with your hands by squeezing them once
through your fingers. Just break them up. Add everything else but
the reserved bacon fat and stir it all together in a big mixing bowl.

Heat a frying pan of any size that is appropriate for the amount,
nonstick is okay. Put the bacon fat in the pan, heat, then press the
potato mixture into the pan. Fry it over medium-low to medium heat,
until the bottom is golden brown. This may take half an hour, but the
time depends on how thickly you've packed the pan. Loosen it with a
spatula and check the bottom. When it's browned enough around the
edges and underneath, put an inverted plate on top of the frying pan
and turn the whole thing over so the bubble-and-squeak falls out onto
the plate.

Serve.


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James Silverton wrote:
Terry wrote on Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:47:29 -0700 (PDT):

I am not much of a fruit or vegetable kind of guy.
I eat meat and potatoes.

I wonder how many people are with Terry?

Not me. I love vegetables (cooked). As with some fresh fruits there's
something about the texture of most raw vegetables I dislike. You wouldn't
catch me biting into an apple (or an onion! LOL). But I love apple juice
(the real deal, not some sugar-added wannabe) and I certainly cook with
onions.

I love most cruciferous veggies (I could live without radishes, rutabaga and
turnips but like turnip greens); all sorts of squash (except for spaghetti
squash, it's that texture thing again), legumes, corn...

I like bananas, pineapple and most berries.

Jill

James Silverton wrote:
Cindy wrote on Mon, 17 Mar 2008 06:31:10 -0700 (PDT):

CH On Mar 17, 8:41 am, "James Silverton"
CH wrote:
?? Terry wrote on Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:47:29 -0700 (PDT):
??
T I am not much of a fruit or vegetable kind of guy.
T I eat meat and potatoes.
??
?? I wonder how many people are with Terry?
??
?? I have to remind myself frequently to eat an adequate
?? amount of non-starchy vegetables and I seldom have a
?? craving for any of them. Asparagus perhaps, since I cannot
?? bring myself to afford it during a good deal of the year
?? and cauliflower, which goes well with the common sauces.
?? French beans are another vegetable that rather like.
??
?? I find also that I mostly eat fruit at breakfast time: banana
?? and grapefruit or melons mostly. I also have a glass of
?? orange juice at breakfast so I suppose I am eating an
?? "adequate" amount of fruit. One of the problems I find
?? with fruit, call me lazy if you wish, is that you usually
?? can't eat the whole thing and you have to find a place to
?? dispose of a core or rind if you are eating it outside a
?? meal. A banana is not bad, non-messy and you can remove
?? the peel at once and hold the fruit especially if you like
?? them barely ripe as I do. The seedless grape is about the
?? only other fruit that I like eating between meals. Of
?? course, if you can find wild berries and eat them then and
?? there, they are also good but store-bought berries usually
?? require extra sugar for my taste.

CH Not me. From a kid who wouldn't eat any vegetables, I grew
CH up into an adult who positively craves them on a daily
CH basis. If I had only myself to cook for, I'd consider what
CH vegetables I'd like to eat and then
CH think about what meat would go with them.

CH I'm rarely anywhere that I couldn't find a place to dispose
CH of fruit remains.

A minor problem, especially if I use a waste basket, is that I can smell
the remains after an houtr or two!


James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
When at work I carefully make sure that I drop things like banana skins
and orange peel in the kitchen garbage. Never use your own wastepaper
basket. It's messy trying to find the key notes for the meeting that
you accidently tossed.

--
John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

Janet Baraclough wrote:
The message
from sf contains these words:


I went to Dublin summer before last and actually looked for
Calcannon... but it was nowhere to be found.

Like bubble and squeak it's a home-cooking economy dish to use up
leftovers.
My son's GF is rural-Irish and a wonderful cook; colcannon is one of
her "comfort food" recipes from home.

Janet.


While I might expect to find it served at a B&B, I can't quite picture it on
a restaurant menu

Jill

jmcquown wrote on Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:20:19 -0400:

j Janet Baraclough wrote:
?? The message
?? from sf contains these words:
??
?? I went to Dublin summer before last and actually looked
?? for Calcannon... but it was nowhere to be found.
??
?? Like bubble and squeak it's a home-cooking economy dish
?? to use up leftovers. My son's GF is rural-Irish and a
?? wonderful cook; colcannon is one of her "comfort food"
?? recipes from home.
??
?? Janet.
??
j While I might expect to find it served at a B&B, I can't
j quite picture it on a restaurant menu

Neither can I but what amazed me was how good it tastes
especially since I had absolutely no interest in it before the
free sample! As my reference http://tinyurl.com/yuvrf7
indicates, colcannon can be browned in an oven and might then be
more suitable for a restaurant.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:39:45 GMT, "James Silverton"
wrote:


Neither can I but what amazed me was how good it tastes
especially since I had absolutely no interest in it before the
free sample! As my reference http://tinyurl.com/yuvrf7
indicates, colcannon can be browned in an oven and might then be
more suitable for a restaurant.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

Our little Dinner Club chose Scotland as one of its countries last
year, and I must say that the colcannon was an absolute hit. I don't
even like cabbage and we don't often have potatoes, but I agree. It
was a really good taste and I didn't expect it, and I am glad I have
had it.

aloha,
beans

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farmers of Pure Kona

wrote:

Our little Dinner Club chose Scotland as one of its countries last
year, and I must say that the colcannon was an absolute hit. I don't
even like cabbage and we don't often have potatoes, but I agree. It
was a really good taste and I didn't expect it, and I am glad I have
had it.

How does colcannon differ from bubble and squeak? I grew up eating that
with leftover cabbage and potatoes, so fail to understand the difference
here?