Wayne Boatwright wrote:
Oh pshaw, on Thu 01 Nov 2007 04:25:03p, Sqwertz meant to say...

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:14:13 GMT, Ted Campanelli wrote:

Sorry. I did not realize the groups were not moderated. I am just
getting tired wading through ads for Nike shoes, pocketbooks, sex pills,
etc. to find the food related items.

You need to killfile everything posted from Google. Show no
mercy to those Google-whiners. If somebody gets offended, spit
on them.

-sw

It's not just Google, Steve. It's better (at least for me) to filter by
keywords.

It's best to filter on Google Groups -- and other things *too*.

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Sqwertz wrote:
On 2 Nov 2007 02:17:36 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:

Ted Campanelli wrote:
Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes
not so great) words of knowledge:
The moderator of this forum needs to step in and do something about
all the posts for "EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOOD RELATED ITEMS".

Sorry. I did not realize the groups were not moderated. I am just
getting tired wading through ads for Nike shoes, pocketbooks, sex
pills, etc. to find the food related items.

I never see those in here. Neither do many others. Use a feed
that's adequately filtered.

Even if your Google filter is turned off, you won't see them? That's
where they're all coming from.

I also mentioned filtering Gropers in another post to the thread, as
well as using a cleaner feed.

As for the mix:

1. If they're from GG *and* trigger the usual bulk mail filters at
news.individual.net (and other well-filtered servers) then the servers
would, of course, dump them and they wouldn't get as far as local client
GG filtering.

2. If they're from GG but *don't* trigger server bulk mail filters, then
local client GG filters would whack them.

And the way to filter posts from GG is, of course, to filter on their
*Message-ID" headers, not their email addresses, since many non-spammers
and other objectionables use a gmail address (but *all* GG posters have a
filterable GG string in their Message-ID headers).


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jmcquown wrote:
Ted Campanelli wrote:
Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes
not so great) words of knowledge:
The moderator of this forum needs to step in and do something about
all the posts for "EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOOD RELATED ITEMS".

Sorry. I did not realize the groups were not moderated. I am just
getting tired wading through ads for Nike shoes, pocketbooks, sex
pills, etc. to find the food related items.

Do like I did, Ted. Filter out @gmail and you'll eliminate a lot of
that crap. Some of it still comes through but not nearly as much.

And a lot of innocent posters with gmail accounts, too. This is a
stupid an attempt to filter GG posters as it has been the other times
you've tried to sell it. GG posters and gmail from addresses do NOT map
one-to-one. But GG posters and their identifiable Message-ID headers
DO. You may be a great cook and a fine person, but you're peddling
bullshit with this gmail filtering. The problem is googlegroups.


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Sqwertz wrote:
On 2 Nov 2007 03:14:01 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:

Sqwertz wrote:
On 2 Nov 2007 02:17:36 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:

Ted Campanelli wrote:
Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and
sometimes not so great) words of knowledge:
The moderator of this forum needs to step in and do something
about all the posts for "EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOOD RELATED ITEMS".

Sorry. I did not realize the groups were not moderated. I am
just getting tired wading through ads for Nike shoes, pocketbooks,
sex pills, etc. to find the food related items.

I never see those in here. Neither do many others. Use a feed
that's adequately filtered.

Even if your Google filter is turned off, you won't see them?
That's where they're all coming from.

I also mentioned filtering Gropers in another post to the thread, as
well as using a cleaner feed.

But in your response you implied that news.individual.net was
filtering the Google-Spam. I was trying to find out if your NSP was
filtering them, or your google filter was clearing them out.

Because I don't *see* the spam, I don't know where it's from. So you
pointed out that *this* spam is GG spam. So NOW I know that it needs to
be locally filtered (i.e. that it's my local filtering that's killing
these and not server filtering), and we're discussing THAT. When new
information presents itself, the discussion changes to accomodate it. I
don't see a problem with this.

As far as I know, none of the NSP's have taken a stance against the
Google-spam.

Agreed. It's a shame.


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"jmcquown" wrote

LOL Actually, I recognized Ted's name. He's not a newbie so I was quite
surprised to find he was surprised this is an unmoderated ng!

I recognise Ted, too, so I thought ... do I recognise him from a
different newsgroup? Didn't think so.

nancy

Sarah Gray wrote:
Sheldon wrote:
On Nov 1, 4:54?pm, Dave Smith wrote:
Ted Campanelli wrote:

The moderator of this forum needs to step in and do something
about all the posts for "EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOOD RELATED ITEMS".
Your first post here and all you can write is an off topic comment
to the non-existent moderator in an unmoderated newsgroup. Go back
to lurking.

This is far from his first post here. Ted Campanelli has posted to
rfc longer than you or anyone who's joined this thread so far except
me.


I knew I recognized his name; I was wondering how a regular would
think rfc was moderated...

Or that OT posts are a surprise!

Ted Campanelli wrote:
Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes
not so great) words of knowledge:
The moderator of this forum needs to step in and do something about
all the posts for "EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOOD RELATED ITEMS".

Sorry. I did not realize the groups were not moderated. I am just
getting tired wading through ads for Nike shoes, pocketbooks, sex
pills, etc. to find the food related items.

Do like I did, Ted. Filter out @gmail and you'll eliminate a lot of that
crap. Some of it still comes through but not nearly as much.

Jill

Christine Dabney wrote in
:

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:49:56 -0400, Goomba38
wrote:


I hear ya Ted. The worst offenders are actually some of the regulars...
that's more annoying to me than the drive by spam.
I don't mind "thread drift" but the enormous amount of off topic
threads
started from the get go *is* annoying.

I decided to try a reverse tactic...to do the thread drift thing, but
to drift it back to food. Probably won't work...but what the
hell...LOL.

Christine


don't tell miss Y but I'm making the dreaded grape jelly meatballs for a
office potluck on Nov 14th....SHHHH! It's a secret! It was requested of
me.

--

The house of the burning beet-Alan

It'll be a sunny day in August, when the Moon will shine that night-
Elbonian Folklore

Oh pshaw, on Thu 01 Nov 2007 08:48:16p, hahabogus meant to say...

Christine Dabney wrote in
:

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:49:56 -0400, Goomba38
wrote:


I hear ya Ted. The worst offenders are actually some of the regulars...
that's more annoying to me than the drive by spam.
I don't mind "thread drift" but the enormous amount of off topic
threads started from the get go *is* annoying.

I decided to try a reverse tactic...to do the thread drift thing, but
to drift it back to food. Probably won't work...but what the
hell...LOL.

Christine


don't tell miss Y but I'm making the dreaded grape jelly meatballs for a
office potluck on Nov 14th....SHHHH! It's a secret! It was requested of
me.


I like them better when made with cranberry sauce.

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On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 03:48:16 GMT, hahabogus wrote:


don't tell miss Y but I'm making the dreaded grape jelly meatballs for a
office potluck on Nov 14th....SHHHH! It's a secret! It was requested of
me.

Well..you know how she is about ferreting out secrets..so she is bound
to find out....

Christine

"hahabogus" wrote

don't tell miss Y but I'm making the dreaded grape jelly meatballs for a
office potluck on Nov 14th....SHHHH! It's a secret! It was requested of
me.

(glaring) It's those new chicks you had moved into your office,
isn't it? I knew it.

nancy

On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 00:01:03 -0400, "Nancy Young"
wrote:


"hahabogus" wrote

don't tell miss Y but I'm making the dreaded grape jelly meatballs for a
office potluck on Nov 14th....SHHHH! It's a secret! It was requested of
me.

(glaring) It's those new chicks you had moved into your office,
isn't it? I knew it.

nancy



I swear I didn't tell her, Alan!!!!!! See, I told you she could
ferret out secrets...LOL. She has radar when someone mentions grape
jelly meatballs..

But I think I would do what Wayne does, and make them with cranberry
sauce...

Christine

"Christine Dabney" wrote

On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 00:01:03 -0400, "Nancy Young"
wrote:

"hahabogus" wrote

don't tell miss Y but I'm making the dreaded grape jelly meatballs for a
office potluck on Nov 14th....SHHHH! It's a secret! It was requested of
me.

(glaring) It's those new chicks you had moved into your office,
isn't it? I knew it.

I swear I didn't tell her, Alan!!!!!! See, I told you she could
ferret out secrets...LOL. She has radar when someone mentions grape
jelly meatballs..

I get this baaad taste and I know someone's up to no good.

nancy

Dave Smith wrote:
Sqwertz wrote:

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:03:07 GMT, Ted Campanelli wrote:

The moderator of this forum needs to step in and do something about
all the posts for "EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOOD RELATED ITEMS".

OK, Jill. Now you can come in and cry, "Troll!" (watch her come
in and give a serious response)

Are you trying to suggests that Jill gets carried away with pointing
out trolls when that seems that you just sported one?

LOL Actually, I recognized Ted's name. He's not a newbie so I was quite
surprised to find he was surprised this is an unmoderated ng!

Sqwertz wrote:
On 2 Nov 2007 03:23:35 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:

Sqwertz wrote:
On 2 Nov 2007 03:14:01 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:

Sqwertz wrote:
On 2 Nov 2007 02:17:36 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:

Ted Campanelli wrote:
Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and
sometimes not so great) words of knowledge:
The moderator of this forum needs to step in and do something
about all the posts for "EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOOD RELATED ITEMS".

Sorry. I did not realize the groups were not moderated. I am
just getting tired wading through ads for Nike shoes, pocketbooks,
sex pills, etc. to find the food related items.

I never see those in here. Neither do many others. Use a feed
that's adequately filtered.

Even if your Google filter is turned off, you won't see them?
That's where they're all coming from.

I also mentioned filtering Gropers in another post to the thread, as
well as using a cleaner feed.

But in your response you implied that news.individual.net was
filtering the Google-Spam. I was trying to find out if your NSP was
filtering them, or your google filter was clearing them out.

Because I don't *see* the spam, I don't know where it's from. So you
pointed out that *this* spam is GG spam. So NOW I know that it needs to
be locally filtered (i.e. that it's my local filtering that's killing
these and not server filtering), and we're discussing THAT. When new
information presents itself, the discussion changes to accomodate it. I
don't see a problem with this.

It was what I thought was a simple question. With you being the
CEO of the Usenet Improvement Project, and the keeper of all
filters for Google, I would have thought you would have known for
sure whether your NSP or your client-side filters are filtering
it. I guess you really don't know.

Please read for comprehension. I'll repeat and type slowly for you.

Since I wasn't SEEING it, I couldn't tell which was filtering it.

When you said it was GG then I knew it was my own filters.

But I suspect it's not NIN that's filtering it for you.

I just SAID that it was my local GG filter -- once you mentioned that it
*WAS* GG spam. Jesus, Steve -- you're not usually this dim; but you
can still prove me wrong.

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