I want to know if once a frozen turkey has thawed out in the
refrigerator, how long can it stay in without changing the flavor or
tenderness?

On Nov 1, 11:40?am, "
> wrote:
> I want to know if once a frozen turkey has thawed out in the
> refrigerator, how long can it stay in without changing the flavor or
> tenderness?

Forget about flavor and tenderness and instead think about safety.
After 2 days a fresh killed or thawed turkey is considered unsafe.

http://dhfs.wisconsin.gov/hometips/dhp/Turkey.htm

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> On Nov 1, 11:40?am, "
> > wrote:
>> I want to know if once a frozen turkey has thawed out in the
>> refrigerator, how long can it stay in without changing the flavor or
>> tenderness?
>
> Forget about flavor and tenderness and instead think about safety.
> After 2 days a fresh killed or thawed turkey is considered unsafe.
>
> http://dhfs.wisconsin.gov/hometips/dhp/Turkey.htm
>

I found the question odd, too. This is why I sometimes ask how old people
are, which, of course, never gets a response because the reason for the
question is obvious. Born yesterday?

On Nov 1, 9:00 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> "Sheldon" > wrote in message
>
> ups.com...
>
> > On Nov 1, 11:40?am, "
> > > wrote:
> >> I want to know if once a frozen turkey has thawed out in the
> >> refrigerator, how long can it stay in without changing the flavor or
> >> tenderness?
>
> > Forget about flavor and tenderness and instead think about safety.
> > After 2 days a fresh killed or thawed turkey is considered unsafe.
>
> >http://dhfs.wisconsin.gov/hometips/dhp/Turkey.htm
>
> I found the question odd, too. This is why I sometimes ask how old people
> are, which, of course, never gets a response because the reason for the
> question is obvious. Born yesterday?
I'm 55 and not a cook. I was just trying to time it so it would be
thawed out by Thanksgiving, but if i thawed out earlier would it be
safe? My family wants a fresh organic turkey, but i can only find
places that has them frozen.

shareyourknowle wrote:
>"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
> > "Sheldon" wrote:
> > >"shareyourknowle wrote:
> > >> I want to know if once a frozen turkey has thawed out in the
> > >> refrigerator, how long can it stay in without changing the flavor or
> > >> tenderness?
>
> > > Forget about flavor and tenderness and instead think about safety.
> > > After 2 days a fresh killed or thawed turkey is considered unsafe.
>
> > >http://dhfs.wisconsin.gov/hometips/dhp/Turkey.htm
>
> > I found the question odd, too. This is why I sometimes ask how old people
> > are, which, of course, never gets a response because the reason for the
> > question is obvious. Born yesterday?
>
> I'm 55 and not a cook. I was just trying to time it so it would be
> thawed out by Thanksgiving, but if i thawed out earlier would it be
> safe? My family wants a fresh organic turkey, but i can only find
> places that has them frozen.

I didn't find yopur question odd at all... every holiday season people
ask all kinds of questions regarding handling turkey... even many who
claim to be experienced cooks actually know nothing about safe
handling for poultry. Your's is a very legitimate query... time for
the real imbecile inquiries is fast approaching, usually the most
inane by certain rfc regulars.

You can find more detailed information at the various major national
brands turkey/poultry web sites; butterball, empire, norbest, etal.
Some even have a hotline you can phone to ask for info. I would
strongly recommend following the safe food handling directions
exactly, do not improvise, otherwise people can become quite ill, some
can die (the very young, the elderly, and those with compromised
immune systems are most at risk).

Sheldon

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> On Nov 1, 9:00 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>> "Sheldon" > wrote in message
>>
>> ups.com...
>>
>>> On Nov 1, 11:40?am, "
>>> > wrote:
>>>> I want to know if once a frozen turkey has thawed out in the
>>>> refrigerator, how long can it stay in without changing the flavor
>>>> or tenderness?
>>
>>> Forget about flavor and tenderness and instead think about safety.
>>> After 2 days a fresh killed or thawed turkey is considered unsafe.
>>
>>> http://dhfs.wisconsin.gov/hometips/dhp/Turkey.htm
>>
>> I found the question odd, too. This is why I sometimes ask how old
>> people are, which, of course, never gets a response because the
>> reason for the question is obvious. Born yesterday?

> I'm 55 and not a cook. I was just trying to time it so it would be
> thawed out by Thanksgiving, but if i thawed out earlier would it be
> safe? My family wants a fresh organic turkey, but i can only find
> places that has them frozen.

Thawed out and left 21 days until Thanksgiving??? Even a 5 year old knows
better. You're not 55, you're a troll. Trolls taste especially good if
they are roasted slowly over an open spit on a rotisserie.

Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> " >
> dropped this
> ups.com: in
> rec.food.cooking
>
>> I'm 55 and not a cook. I was just trying to time it so it would be
>> thawed out by Thanksgiving, but if i thawed out earlier would it be
>> safe? My family wants a fresh organic turkey, but i can only find
>> places that has them frozen.
>
> I strongly suggest you peruse the entire article at the site below.
> I've put an excerpt in this post that should help you out:
>
I strongly suggest he fry a turkey inside his garage with the door closed.
No one can have lived 55 years, cook or not, and not have a clue.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>> " >
>> dropped this
>> ups.com: in
>> rec.food.cooking
>>
>>> I'm 55 and not a cook. I was just trying to time it so it would be
>>> thawed out by Thanksgiving, but if i thawed out earlier would it be
>>> safe? My family wants a fresh organic turkey, but i can only find
>>> places that has them frozen.
>>
>> I strongly suggest you peruse the entire article at the site below.
>> I've put an excerpt in this post that should help you out:
>>
> I strongly suggest he fry a turkey inside his garage with the door closed.
> No one can have lived 55 years, cook or not, and not have a clue.
>

I thought you were too old for pms.

On Nov 1, 11:34 am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> > " >
> > dropped this
> oups.com:in
> > rec.food.cooking
>
> >> I'm 55 and not a cook. I was just trying to time it so it would be
> >> thawed out by Thanksgiving, but if i thawed out earlier would it be
> >> safe? My family wants a fresh organic turkey, but i can only find
> >> places that has them frozen.
>
> > I strongly suggest you peruse the entire article at the site below.
> > I've put an excerpt in this post that should help you out:
>
> I strongly suggest he fry a turkey inside his garage with the door closed.
> No one can have lived 55 years, cook or not, and not have a clue.

Well, i guess i don't have a clue. I can blame that on my wife who's a
great cook. But i do do all the home repairs-plumbing, electrical,
auto,that makes up for it. Sorry, but offensive remarks won't affect
me. You'll have to insult someone else. By the way, have a Happy
Thanksgiving.

On Nov 1, 10:09 am, "Michael \"Dog3\"" > wrote:
> Sheldon > dropped egroups.com:in
> rec.food.cooking
>
> > I didn't find yopur question odd at all... every holiday season people
> > ask all kinds of questions regarding handling turkey... even many who
> > claim to be experienced cooks actually know nothing about safe
> > handling for poultry.
>
> I agree. I would much rather post some useful info for the query than not
> post it. I have it in bookmarks anyway. While I think safe poultry
> handling and preparation is very necessary, I've seen people go to
> absolute extremes regarding the issue.
>
> > Your's is a very legitimate query... time for
> > the real imbecile inquiries is fast approaching, usually the most
> > inane by certain rfc regulars.
>
> OMG...I can only *imagine* what you would consider an "imbecile" inquiry
> from one of the regulars ...LOL
>
> <snip for space>
>
> Michael
> --
> Last words spoken before execution . . .
>
> "Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel."
> Executed in electric chair in New York.
> ~~ George Appel, d. 1928
>
> Send email to: michael at lonergan dot us dot com

Nice to hear a rational response. Thanks for the reply and info.
Regards.

On Nov 1, 11:48 am, Barb > wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:23:25 -0600, jmcquown wrote:
> > wrote:
>
> >> I'm 55 and not a cook. I was just trying to time it so it would be
> >> thawed out by Thanksgiving, but if i thawed out earlier would it be
> >> safe? My family wants a fresh organic turkey, but i can only find
> >> places that has them frozen.
>
> > Thawed out and left 21 days until Thanksgiving??? Even a 5 year old knows
> > better. You're not 55, you're a troll. Trolls taste especially good if
> > they are roasted slowly over an open spit on a rotisserie.
>
> She didn't say she was going to thaw it out *now*, you bumbling
> dip-stick.
>
> And it's not a troll, just somebody who doesn't know any better.
> It was a straight-forward question, that is, for somebody with at
> least half a brain.
>
> -sw

I didn't mention anything about 21 days before Thanksgiving. You did.

> wrote in message
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> On Nov 1, 11:48 am, Barb > wrote:
>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:23:25 -0600, jmcquown wrote:
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >> I'm 55 and not a cook. I was just trying to time it so it would be
>> >> thawed out by Thanksgiving, but if i thawed out earlier would it be
>> >> safe? My family wants a fresh organic turkey, but i can only find
>> >> places that has them frozen.
>>
>> > Thawed out and left 21 days until Thanksgiving??? Even a 5 year old
>> > knows
>> > better. You're not 55, you're a troll. Trolls taste especially good
>> > if
>> > they are roasted slowly over an open spit on a rotisserie.
>>
>> She didn't say she was going to thaw it out *now*, you bumbling
>> dip-stick.
>>
>> And it's not a troll, just somebody who doesn't know any better.
>> It was a straight-forward question, that is, for somebody with at
>> least half a brain.
>>
>> -sw
>
> I didn't mention anything about 21 days before Thanksgiving. You did.
>

Err, Barb didn't, but we know who you mean :-)

On Nov 1, 2:34?pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> > " >
> > dropped this
> oups.com:in
> > rec.food.cooking
>
> >> I'm 55 and not a cook. I was just trying to time it so it would be
> >> thawed out by Thanksgiving, but if i thawed out earlier would it be
> >> safe? My family wants a fresh organic turkey, but i can only find
> >> places that has them frozen.
>
> > I strongly suggest you peruse the entire article at the site below.
> > I've put an excerpt in this post that should help you out:
>
> I strongly suggest he fry a turkey inside his garage with the door closed.
> No one can have lived 55 years, cook or not, and not have a clue.

You're not 55 yet.

Sheldon wrote:
> On Nov 1, 2:34?pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>> Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>>> " >
>>> dropped this
>>> ups.com:in
>>> rec.food.cooking
>>>> I'm 55 and not a cook. I was just trying to time it so it would be
>>>> thawed out by Thanksgiving, but if i thawed out earlier would it be
>>>> safe? My family wants a fresh organic turkey, but i can only find
>>>> places that has them frozen.
>>> I strongly suggest you peruse the entire article at the site below.
>>> I've put an excerpt in this post that should help you out:
>> I strongly suggest he fry a turkey inside his garage with the door closed.
>> No one can have lived 55 years, cook or not, and not have a clue.
>
> You're not 55 yet.
>
>

Why are you still here? You should take a long break.

Really.

On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:34:16 -0600, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>> " >
>> dropped this
>> ups.com: in
>> rec.food.cooking
>>
>>> I'm 55 and not a cook. I was just trying to time it so it would be
>>> thawed out by Thanksgiving, but if i thawed out earlier would it be
>>> safe? My family wants a fresh organic turkey, but i can only find
>>> places that has them frozen.
>>
>> I strongly suggest you peruse the entire article at the site below.
>> I've put an excerpt in this post that should help you out:
>>
>I strongly suggest he fry a turkey inside his garage with the door closed.
>No one can have lived 55 years, cook or not, and not have a clue.
>

jill, if were you, i would think very carefully before i espousing
capital punishment for cluelessness.

your pal,
blake

> wrote:

>I'm 55 and not a cook. I was just trying to time it so it would be
>thawed out by Thanksgiving, but if i thawed out earlier would it be
>safe? My family wants a fresh organic turkey, but i can only find
>places that has them frozen.

Many turkeys these days -- especially better organic ones --
are not hard-frozen but are instead stored and shipped "chilled",
meaning just a couple days before freezing. The best thing
to do is pre-order your turkey and pick it out the day
before thanksgiving. Overnight in the fridge it will lose
those couple degrees of "chill" and be perfect for roasting.

That's really the best plan. If you truly want to buy a
frozen turkey, use something like the chart Sheldon posted
a link to for thawing, but there is some risk it will thaw
faster or slower than predicted by the chart.

Steve

Steve Pope wrote:

> That's really the best plan. If you truly want to buy a
> frozen turkey, use something like the chart Sheldon posted
> a link to for thawing, but there is some risk it will thaw
> faster or slower than predicted by the chart.

Good point. The charts are based on an ambient temperature of 40F. Most
people keep their refrigerators in the 34 to 36F range. So, folks should use
a calibrated refrigerature thermometer (or a Polder-type probe thermometer)
to check the actual temperature. Just be sure to allow at least 30 minutes
of closed door time before checking the thermometer, as each time the door
is opened the temperature will increase.

--
Dave

Dave Bugg > wrote:

>Steve Pope wrote:

>> That's really the best plan. If you truly want to buy a
>> frozen turkey, use something like the chart Sheldon posted
>> a link to for thawing, but there is some risk it will thaw
>> faster or slower than predicted by the chart.

>Good point. The charts are based on an ambient temperature of 40F. Most
>people keep their refrigerators in the 34 to 36F range. So, folks should use
>a calibrated refrigerature thermometer (or a Polder-type probe thermometer)
>to check the actual temperature. Just be sure to allow at least 30 minutes
>of closed door time before checking the thermometer, as each time the door
>is opened the temperature will increase.

Another variable is to what temperature the turkey might be frozen.
I'm not sure that's completely standard.

Steve

Steve Pope wrote:
> Dave Bugg > wrote:
>
>> Steve Pope wrote:
>
>>> That's really the best plan. If you truly want to buy a
>>> frozen turkey, use something like the chart Sheldon posted
>>> a link to for thawing, but there is some risk it will thaw
>>> faster or slower than predicted by the chart.
>
>> Good point. The charts are based on an ambient temperature of 40F.
>> Most people keep their refrigerators in the 34 to 36F range. So,
>> folks should use a calibrated refrigerature thermometer (or a
>> Polder-type probe thermometer) to check the actual temperature. Just
>> be sure to allow at least 30 minutes of closed door time before
>> checking the thermometer, as each time the door is opened the
>> temperature will increase.
>
> Another variable is to what temperature the turkey might be frozen.
> I'm not sure that's completely standard.

Believe it or not, there are standard definitions. This from
http://www.the-perfect-turkey.com/thawing-a-turkey.html
<begin quote>
Why is thawing a turkey necessary? A turkey is sold "ready to cook." No
butchering and little if any feather removal is necessary. But because the
standard is to deliver at least a "chilled," if not a "frozen" product, your
bird will require some defrosting.

Turkeys may also be sold as "hard chilled", or "refrigerated", which means
that these birds are between 0 degrees F and 25 degrees F.
Turkeys labeled "fresh" by definition can never have been chilled below 26
degrees F. As you can see, although they don't meet the US government
definition of frozen, they still pretty cold birds. When thawing a "fresh"
turkey it won't take as long to defrost it as a solidly frozen bird. But it
can slow you down, if you are in a hurry. <end quote>


--
Dave

On Thursday, November 1, 2007 at 11:40:07 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> I want to know if once a frozen turkey has thawed out in the
> refrigerator, how long can it stay in without changing the flavor or
> tenderness?

On 4/14/2019 11:40 AM, wrote:
> On Thursday, November 1, 2007 at 11:40:07 AM UTC-4, wrote:
>> I want to know if once a frozen turkey has thawed out in the
>> refrigerator, how long can it stay in without changing the flavor or
>> tenderness?
>

Since the original post goes back to 2007, I'd say it is already been
two long. I'd throw it out. The flavor may have changed.

It ould stay in there for years but it'd stink after awhile.

On 4/14/2019 11:40 AM, wrote:
> On Thursday, November 1, 2007 at 11:40:07 AM UTC-4, wrote:
>> I want to know if once a frozen turkey has thawed out in the
>> refrigerator, how long can it stay in without changing the flavor or
>> tenderness?
>
Well... if it's been thawing since 2007 I'd say it should be quite tender!

Jill

On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 12:01:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 4/14/2019 11:40 AM, wrote:
>> On Thursday, November 1, 2007 at 11:40:07 AM UTC-4, wrote:
>>> I want to know if once a frozen turkey has thawed out in the
>>> refrigerator, how long can it stay in without changing the flavor or
>>> tenderness?
>>
>
>Since the original post goes back to 2007, I'd say it is already been
>two long. I'd throw it out. The flavor may have changed.

I often ignore BB dates but in this case I think you're spot on

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> On 4/14/2019 11:40 AM, wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 1, 2007 at 11:40:07 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> >> I want to know if once a frozen turkey has thawed out in the
> >> refrigerator, how long can it stay in without changing the flavor or
> >> tenderness?
> >
>
> Since the original post goes back to 2007, I'd say it is already been
> two long. I'd throw it out. The flavor may have changed.

Yep. It's been thawing too long, imo.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Thursday, November 1, 2007 at 11:40:07 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> > I want to know if once a frozen turkey has thawed out in the
> > refrigerator, how long can it stay in without changing the flavor or
> > tenderness?

12 years is a bit too long.

If you're still alive, you'd better throw it out.

Janet UK

On Sunday, April 14, 2019 at 11:01:53 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/14/2019 11:40 AM, wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 1, 2007 at 11:40:07 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> >> I want to know if once a frozen turkey has thawed out in the
> >> refrigerator, how long can it stay in without changing the flavor or
> >> tenderness?
> >
>
> Since the original post goes back to 2007, I'd say it is already been
> two long. I'd throw it out. The flavor may have changed.

"TOO" LONG! Two, Too, To, Etc.

My sandwich on an Asiago Cheese Bagel today was from 2018 FROZEN Turkey Meat and HAM! And it was GOOD! YUM! :-)

:-)

John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Baker Boy!

On Sunday, April 14, 2019 at 11:06:58 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> It ould stay in there for years but it'd stink after awhile.

YOU would stink, yes! But well killed TURKEY, not so much!

;-)

John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Well Preserved CHEF!