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Food processor meat grinding? pasta mixing? dough kneading?



 
 
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Old 26-10-2007, 03:04 AM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.equipment
Sheldon
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Default Food processor meat grinding? pasta mixing? dough kneading?

On Oct 25, 4:42?pm, (Steve Pope) wrote:
Peter wrote:
Is it worth my time in effort to grind my own meat with it? I was thinking
a coarser grind would be nicer compared to the usual store bought ground
meats for many dishes. Does anyone here do this regularly and can comment or
offer advice? I don't envision buying a proper meat grinder anytime soon.


This is secondhand, but according to Julia Child, a meat grinder works
better because you do not end up with chopped gristle in the meat.
Instead, the gristle stays in the screen of the grinder, where
you can manually remove it from time to time.


Not true. I never saw a meat grinder with a screen. If you put
gristle in it will grind it... will even grind small bones, will grind
poultry bones easily.

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Old 26-10-2007, 03:23 AM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.equipment
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Sheldon wrote:


Not true. I never saw a meat grinder with a screen. If you put
gristle in it will grind it... will even grind small bones, will grind
poultry bones easily.


I have only seen a few small hand powered meat grinders and they all had a
screen in them There is a disk that screws into the end with holes in it
through which the ground meat is extruded.
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Old 26-10-2007, 03:28 AM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.equipment
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Default Food processor meat grinding? pasta mixing? dough kneading?

On Oct 25, 3:24 pm, "Peter" wrote:
Received a cuisinart food processor for a wedding gift, a 7 cup model (came
with a second mini food processor as well).

http://www.cuisinart.com/catalog/pro...=30&item_id=59...


I don't think that one has a citrus juicer.

I've only had it 3 days but so far made a nice cheese dip and used to it
fine chop cabbage for chinese dumplings :-)

Is it worth my time in effort to grind my own meat with it? I was thinking
a coarser grind would be nicer compared to the usual store bought ground
meats for many dishes. Does anyone here do this regularly and can comment or
offer advice? I don't envision buying a proper meat grinder anytime soon.


The only time I grind meat is to use for stuffing pasta like ravioli
and manicotti. It pulverizes the beef and spinach nicely.

How well does it work for bread kneading? Better to do by hand? Same for
for pasta. I *love* home made pasta and I do not have a pasta maker. I
usualy do it by hand every couple weeks and roll it out myself. Is it
possible to use this machine to mix my pasta for me or am I hoping for too
much? Rolling is the easy part IMHO, mixing is the annoying part :-)


I looked at the website, and you can order a dough blade for that
model. I'd say that if Cuisinart says it works, it probably does. I
love my Little Pro Plus.

--Bryan

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Old 26-10-2007, 03:37 AM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.equipment
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On Oct 25, 9:23?pm, Dave Smith wrote:
Sheldon wrote:

Not true. I never saw a meat grinder with a screen. If you put
gristle in it will grind it... will even grind small bones, will grind
poultry bones easily.


I have only seen a few small hand powered meat grinders and they all had a
screen in them There is a disk that screws into the end with holes in it
through which the ground meat is extruded.


That's the grinding plate, won't hold anything back

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Old 26-10-2007, 05:32 AM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.equipment
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:45:38 -0400, "Peter" wrote:

A food processor is far better than mystery meat... but you really
ought to buy a meat grinder.


Sheldon, I'll probably give this a go and if it does not satisfy my needs I
may end up doing so. Suggestions for brand names and models? I don't want
to sacrifice an early retirement on one but I would want one that lasts for
life.


Jeez, I've never agreed with Sheldon before, but he's right about this. 8;(

Food processors shred the meed rather than extruding it. Two important points:
you need to first chill the meat and cut the meet into 3/4 or 1 inch cubes, then
pulse it in the processor, and you will get something usable for burgers, meat
loaf, and such.

However, a meat grinder is far, far better. The meat grinder attachment for
Kitchen Aid mixers does fine, but something much beefier (NPI) with standard
grinder plates is better yet. Avoid the common WalMart / Target names like Rival
-- their toys are not nearly as capable as others available for the same price.

Two excellent sources a

http://www.pleasanthillgrain.com/mea...ders_food.aspx (scroll past the
commercial grinders to the bottom of the page for the Maverick ($99.95) and
Back-to-Basics ($89.95) grinders).

and http://www.sausagemaker.com/ (the TSM-8 at $99.95, as well as a great
selection of grinder plates and parts).

These or similar grinders are often available on eBay, but -- shipping
considered -- no better buys, in my experience.

I have the Maverick, with an extra coarse plate for making chili, and I'm very
happy with it. I do at least ten pounds at a time, and it doesn't break a sweat.
Much better than the KA attachment I used before.

-- Larry
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Old 26-10-2007, 02:40 PM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.equipment
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Default Food processor meat grinding? pasta mixing? dough kneading?

In article ,
says...
Received a cuisinart food processor for a wedding gift, a 7 cup model (came
with a second mini food processor as well).

http://www.cuisinart.com/catalog/pro...id=59&cat_id=7

I've only had it 3 days but so far made a nice cheese dip and used to it
fine chop cabbage for chinese dumplings :-)

Is it worth my time in effort to grind my own meat with it? I was thinking
a coarser grind would be nicer compared to the usual store bought ground
meats for many dishes. Does anyone here do this regularly and can comment or
offer advice? I don't envision buying a proper meat grinder anytime soon.

How well does it work for bread kneading? Better to do by hand? Same for
for pasta. I *love* home made pasta and I do not have a pasta maker. I
usualy do it by hand every couple weeks and roll it out myself. Is it
possible to use this machine to mix my pasta for me or am I hoping for too
much? Rolling is the easy part IMHO, mixing is the annoying part :-)

I use my food processor to make pasta dough. I use approximately 2/3 cup
of flour to each egg. In the machine, turn it on and let 'er rip.

If you want to use it for bread kneading, there are many bread cookbooks
that include food processor versions of the recipes.

Not so great for grinding meat. I use the attachment for my Kenwood
mixer. Fast and good.
--
Jerry Bank
Trenton, New Jersey
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Old 26-10-2007, 04:01 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Sheldon wrote:
On Oct 25, 8:14?pm, "limey" wrote:


Scratch what I said, Peter. I got mixed up - I haven't ground meat
using the Cuisinart but have ground it using my Kitchenaid mixer with a
grinder attachment. My apologies. I'm tired.


Good thing you don't do circumcisions. hehe

ROFL

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Old 26-10-2007, 04:25 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Default Food processor meat grinding? pasta mixing? dough kneading?

On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:42:49 -0700, Sheldon wrote:


You can spend a lot more but I bought this Waring as a step up from my
slightly smaller Moulinex and it works great:
http://www.chefscatalog.com/product/...t-grinder.aspx

Ooh..it can stuff sausages too. I see this in my future. (Shaddup,
Boli!!)
Seriously, I have been wanting a meat grinder too, with a sausage
stuffer. The book Charcuterie has some great sausages in it..that I
am dying to try. Andouille, anyone?

Christine
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Old 26-10-2007, 04:53 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Christine Dabney wrote:
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:42:49 -0700, Sheldon wrote:


You can spend a lot more but I bought this Waring as a step up from
my slightly smaller Moulinex and it works great:
http://www.chefscatalog.com/product/...t-grinder.aspx

Ooh..it can stuff sausages too. I see this in my future. (Shaddup,
Boli!!)
Seriously, I have been wanting a meat grinder too, with a sausage
stuffer. The book Charcuterie has some great sausages in it..that I
am dying to try. Andouille, anyone?


You recipe please young lady)


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Old 26-10-2007, 04:58 PM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.equipment
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Sheldon wrote:

On Oct 25, 9:23?pm, Dave Smith wrote:
Sheldon wrote:

Not true. I never saw a meat grinder with a screen. If you put
gristle in it will grind it... will even grind small bones, will grind
poultry bones easily.


I have only seen a few small hand powered meat grinders and they all had a
screen in them There is a disk that screws into the end with holes in it
through which the ground meat is extruded.


That's the grinding plate, won't hold anything back


Call is a grinding plate if you want. It has holes in it so it qualifies as
a screen.
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Old 26-10-2007, 05:06 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Christine Dabney
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On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:53:52 +0100, "Ophelia" wrote:

Christine Dabney wrote:


Ooh..it can stuff sausages too. I see this in my future. (Shaddup,
Boli!!)
Seriously, I have been wanting a meat grinder too, with a sausage
stuffer. The book Charcuterie has some great sausages in it..that I
am dying to try. Andouille, anyone?


You recipe please young lady)


Oh, I just have the book Charcuterie, by Michael Ruhlman. I haven't
looked lately....

You really, really expect me to be that diligent and copy out that
recipe? Surely you jest...LOL. I am so lazy..I can't even get
myself to copy a simple recipe for anyone, much less a complicated one
like that!!! I have recipes on backlog...that I should copy out..and
post..but I haven't.....

I am so very bad...

Christine, hanging head in a little bit of shame...
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Old 26-10-2007, 05:57 PM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.equipment
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On Oct 25, 3:38 pm, "Peter" wrote:
"Nancy2" wrote in message

ups.com...





On Oct 25, 3:24 pm, "Peter" wrote:
Received a cuisinart food processor for a wedding gift, a 7 cup model
(came
with a second mini food processor as well).


http://www.cuisinart.com/catalog/pro...=30&item_id=59...


I've only had it 3 days but so far made a nice cheese dip and used to it
fine chop cabbage for chinese dumplings :-)


Is it worth my time in effort to grind my own meat with it? I was
thinking
a coarser grind would be nicer compared to the usual store bought ground
meats for many dishes. Does anyone here do this regularly and can comment
or
offer advice? I don't envision buying a proper meat grinder anytime
soon.


How well does it work for bread kneading? Better to do by hand? Same
for
for pasta. I *love* home made pasta and I do not have a pasta maker. I
usualy do it by hand every couple weeks and roll it out myself. Is it
possible to use this machine to mix my pasta for me or am I hoping for
too
much? Rolling is the easy part IMHO, mixing is the annoying part :-)


What does the book that came with it say about pasta? I've never done
dough or pasta in a FP, only by hand or in my KitchenAid.


N.


It does not say anything about pasta at all, that was a prayer :-) It has
a bread dough attachment but the things I've read online are sort of hit and
miss. Some like, some don't but don't say why. I've never made bread.
Have you ever ground meat in yours?- Hide quoted text -

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Only cooked meat, like leftover ham or turkey for ham salad or turkey
croquettes, but I've done those with my KitchenAid mixer's grinding
attachment.

I'd think using the FP might make something more like a meat paste,
but maybe your FP has slower speeds. I've got kind of an old Hamilton
Beach one that has one speed.

N.

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Old 26-10-2007, 06:03 PM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.equipment
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On Oct 25, 7:42 pm, Sheldon wrote:
On Oct 25, 6:45?pm, "Peter" wrote:





"Sheldon" wrote in message


oups.com...


On Oct 25, 4:24?pm, "Peter" wrote:
Received a cuisinart food processor for a wedding gift, a 7 cup model
(came
with a second mini food processor as well).


http://www.cuisinart.com/catalog/pro...=30&item_id=59...


I've only had it 3 days but so far made a nice cheese dip and used to it
fine chop cabbage for chinese dumplings :-)


Is it worth my time in effort to grind my own meat with it? I was
thinking
a coarser grind would be nicer compared to the usual store bought ground
meats for many dishes. Does anyone here do this regularly and can comment
or
offer advice? I don't envision buying a proper meat grinder anytime
soon.


A food processor is far better than mystery meat... but you really
ought to buy a meat grinder.


Sheldon


Sheldon, I'll probably give this a go and if it does not satisfy my needs I
may end up doing so. Suggestions for brand names and models? I don't want
to sacrifice an early retirement on one but I would want one that lasts for
life.


You can spend a lot more but I bought this Waring as a step up from my
slightly smaller Moulinex and it works great:http://www.chefscatalog.com/product/...sional-meat-gr...

I think if you shop around you can find it for less, I paid $160 two
years ago... hehttp://www.homeclick.com/web/catalog...x?pid=115252&c...

Sheldon- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You can buy a hand grinder - the kind like grandma used to clamp onto
the edge of the kitchen table. They work great; they're easy to
clean, and there's nothing that ever breaks, really.

http://tinyurl.com/ypyfxv

Lehmans is a great source for old-fashioned, reliable stuff - and
grinding meat isn't so hard, even for me. The one I have is probably
at least 75 years old - and there's nothing wrong with it at all.

N.

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Old 26-10-2007, 06:05 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Christine Dabney wrote:
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:53:52 +0100, "Ophelia" wrote:

Christine Dabney wrote:


Ooh..it can stuff sausages too. I see this in my future. (Shaddup,
Boli!!)
Seriously, I have been wanting a meat grinder too, with a sausage
stuffer. The book Charcuterie has some great sausages in it..that I
am dying to try. Andouille, anyone?


You recipe please young lady)


Oh, I just have the book Charcuterie, by Michael Ruhlman. I haven't
looked lately....

You really, really expect me to be that diligent and copy out that
recipe? Surely you jest...LOL. I am so lazy..I can't even get
myself to copy a simple recipe for anyone, much less a complicated one
like that!!! I have recipes on backlog...that I should copy out..and
post..but I haven't.....

I am so very bad...

Christine, hanging head in a little bit of shame...


Nahh don't do that) I forgive you) xxx


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Old 26-10-2007, 06:07 PM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.equipment
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Default Food processor meat grinding? pasta mixing? dough kneading?

Nancy2 wrote:
Is it worth my time in effort to grind my own meat with it? I was
thinking
a coarser grind would be nicer compared to the usual store bought
ground meats for many dishes. Does anyone here do this regularly
and can comment or
offer advice? I don't envision buying a proper meat grinder
anytime soon.


Whatever kind of grinder you have, it can only be better than buying ready
ground meat.

How do you know 'what' they put in with that ewwwwwwwwww!! Much better to
buy a piece of meat and grind it yourself!!




 




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