In article ,
wrote:

Received mine yesterday from Amazon and what I have read
so far has been interesting for local color. It sounds
as though the author has done a good job soliciting recipes
from various talented Minnesotans including our own
Ms. Schaller. That coffee cake sounds luscious. I guess
next year's jam/jelly production is safe.

;-)
gloria p

Ref: "A Cook's Tour of Minnesota" by Ann L. Burckhardt
ISBN 0-87351-468-8

Thanks, Gloria. I agree about her research and solicitations -- she
put two years + into the book. I'm about halfway through it and have
identified a couple recipes to try. I'm forwarding your note to Ann as
I know she'll be pleased to know you're enjoying it. Be sure to note my
comments in the long thread I posted yesterday -- it REALLY should be
made six at a time; Ann didn't want those directions because she figured
it would be too complicated-looking for anyone who just wanted to 'try
it.' I suppose she's right, but I put this into the category of "if
you're going to make one, you might as well make two, -- or six." I
will probably be including the coffeecake in Christmas gift packs for my
friends: Coffeecake, Holiday Conserve, small loaf of bread, 1# ground
pork, small jar of Penzeys Breakfast Sausage Seasoning. Can't believe
I'm even thinking of it already -- actually, what I'm thinking of is how
to package it -- I'd like to do a box rather than a bag, I think.
--
-Barb (www.jamlady.eboard.com updated 10-16-03; check the PickleHats tab, too.)

In article , Dog3
wrote:


I still use plain old SOS pads. I know, I know, bad. Still they work well.
I'm still in strike mode and out of everything. The Dawn is a good tip.
Thanks.

Michael - Hoping American Arilines is not on strike 12/05/2003

They work well on flat open spaces but not the crevices along the top.
You always miss something. That's why I was looking for a spray and
soak method.

I'm going to try the Oven cleaner method because I have a whole can of
that stuff left over from the last oven clean.

Vox Humana wrote:
"jmcquown" wrote in message
...
John Gaughan wrote:
ShivaTiger wrote:
So, I'm wondering if anybody has some good ways to clean those
Pyrex baking dishes after they got build up crud on them?

Soak them in hot water and dishsoap for an hour or two. Scrub and
rinse, soak again. Scrub and rinse. Then run them through a cycle in
the dishwasher. This works for me, although I am anal about soaking
them right away after use.

I am sure the other suggestions about lye and oven cleaner will
work, but this way is a bit safer. Those other cleaners can hurt.

Okay, I'm not bashing you. But the OP said they didn't want to have
to scrub and scrub. I wouldn't use lye but the home use oven
cleaners are safe enough if you don't spray them on yourself. I'd
be sure to wear rubber gloves and I would spray the pan *before* I
put it into the garbage bag. Fumes, doncha know.

The oven cleaner will do bad things to your skin, so gloves are a
good idea. You can also use the bag to manipulate the item.
Definitely don't spray before it goes in the bag because you will
just have a mess. Unfortunately, I find that the cleaner in the
yellow can (original) is much better than the fume-fee stuff in the
blue can. I also think that scrubbing with abrasives is ultimately
counterproductive. Once a surface has been abraded it will stain
more easily. Scrubbing leads to the need for more scrubbing.

So do you recommend a face mask? I'm not being facetious, but before I got
a self-cleaning oven and sprayed that oven cleaner, the fumes literally made
me choke.

Jill

John Gaughan wrote in
:

I am sure the other suggestions about lye and oven cleaner will work,
but this way is a bit safer. Those other cleaners can hurt.



There is lye in Dishwasher soap...That's why it isn't reccomened you put
knives in the dishwasher...it'll eat the edge off a knife (dull it).

I like to cover the burnt on crud with water and microwave it till the
water boils, add soap then let rest and then scrub it and repeat. A sponge
in a pantyhose foot works well.

Hahabogus wrote:
John Gaughan wrote in
:

I am sure the other suggestions about lye and oven cleaner will work,
but this way is a bit safer. Those other cleaners can hurt.



I like to cover the burnt on crud with water and microwave it till the
water boils, add soap then let rest and then scrub it and repeat. A
sponge in a pantyhose foot works well.

Uh... I don't have to ask the obvious question pantyhose, do I?
(laughing)

Jill (watching a live eBay auction, gonna win!)

"jmcquown" wrote in message
...
Vox Humana wrote:
"jmcquown" wrote in message
...
John Gaughan wrote:
ShivaTiger wrote:
So, I'm wondering if anybody has some good ways to clean those
Pyrex baking dishes after they got build up crud on them?

Soak them in hot water and dishsoap for an hour or two. Scrub and
rinse, soak again. Scrub and rinse. Then run them through a cycle in
the dishwasher. This works for me, although I am anal about soaking
them right away after use.

I am sure the other suggestions about lye and oven cleaner will
work, but this way is a bit safer. Those other cleaners can hurt.

Okay, I'm not bashing you. But the OP said they didn't want to have
to scrub and scrub. I wouldn't use lye but the home use oven
cleaners are safe enough if you don't spray them on yourself. I'd
be sure to wear rubber gloves and I would spray the pan *before* I
put it into the garbage bag. Fumes, doncha know.

The oven cleaner will do bad things to your skin, so gloves are a
good idea. You can also use the bag to manipulate the item.
Definitely don't spray before it goes in the bag because you will
just have a mess. Unfortunately, I find that the cleaner in the
yellow can (original) is much better than the fume-fee stuff in the
blue can. I also think that scrubbing with abrasives is ultimately
counterproductive. Once a surface has been abraded it will stain
more easily. Scrubbing leads to the need for more scrubbing.

So do you recommend a face mask? I'm not being facetious, but before I
got
a self-cleaning oven and sprayed that oven cleaner, the fumes literally
made
me choke.

I think that the bag minimizes the fumes, but a mask wouldn't hurt. I
suppose in lieu of a mask, good ventilation would help. I have the
occasional choking fit if I'm not careful. I wish I could find the old oven
cleaner that came in a jar with a brush. There wasn't a problem with the
stuff being aerosolized. I looked online thinking that someone, somewhere
must still sell the paint-on cleaner, but no luck. Being a compulsive neat
freak is hazardous to your health!

"jmcquown" wrote in
:

Uh... I don't have to ask the obvious question pantyhose, do I?
(laughing)

Jill (watching a live eBay auction, gonna win!)



Well I do know several woman who will give me their run panyhose (well one
my daughter). Works great to strain paint as well.

in article , John Gaughan at
wrote on 10/17/03 5:02 PM:

ShivaTiger wrote:
So, I'm wondering if anybody has some good ways to clean those Pyrex
baking dishes after they got build up crud on them?

Soak them in hot water and dishsoap for an hour or two. Scrub and rinse,
soak again. Scrub and rinse. Then run them through a cycle in the
dishwasher. This works for me, although I am anal about soaking them
right away after use.

I am sure the other suggestions about lye and oven cleaner will work,
but this way is a bit safer. Those other cleaners can hurt.

--
John Gaughan
http://www.johngaughan.net/



Using Sheldon's method is cheap, easy and effective.

Go outside with your dirty pans, a bottle of ammonia, a custard cup and a
big green trash bag with a twist tie.

Place the pans in the bag.
Pour a small amount of ammonia into the custard cup. (Like, half-full). set
the cup of ammonia inside the bag. No need to put the ammonia IN the dirty
pan, it's the fumes that do the job. Tie the bag up good and tight. Leave it
alone overnight. The next day, be careful opening the bag, the fumes can be
overwhelming...but remove the pans from the bag and hose them down. Crud
will come right off, no elbow grease.

Try it. It works!

jmcquown wrote:
Okay, I'm not bashing you. But the OP said they didn't want to have
to scrub and scrub.

Maybe "wipe and wipe" is a better description. If you soak the pans, you
should not have to scrub them. Grab a plastic srub pad and just wipe,
most of the crap should come right off.

I wouldn't use lye but the home use oven cleaners are safe enough if
you don't spray them on yourself.

Well, you are responding to my post... I am the man who is clumsy enough
to trip over his own feet, to bite his own tongue (literally), to fall
over while sitting on the floor (and while sober). Never underestimate
the clumsiness of a Gaughan :-)

--
John Gaughan
http://www.johngaughan.net/

"Vox Humana" wrote in
:


"jmcquown" wrote in message
...
Vox Humana wrote:
"jmcquown" wrote in message
...
John Gaughan wrote:
ShivaTiger wrote:
So, I'm wondering if anybody has some good ways to clean those
Pyrex baking dishes after they got build up crud on them?

Soak them in hot water and dishsoap for an hour or two. Scrub and
rinse, soak again. Scrub and rinse. Then run them through a cycle
in the dishwasher. This works for me, although I am anal about
soaking them right away after use.

I am sure the other suggestions about lye and oven cleaner will
work, but this way is a bit safer. Those other cleaners can hurt.

Okay, I'm not bashing you. But the OP said they didn't want to
have to scrub and scrub. I wouldn't use lye but the home use oven
cleaners are safe enough if you don't spray them on yourself. I'd
be sure to wear rubber gloves and I would spray the pan *before* I
put it into the garbage bag. Fumes, doncha know.

The oven cleaner will do bad things to your skin, so gloves are a
good idea. You can also use the bag to manipulate the item.
Definitely don't spray before it goes in the bag because you will
just have a mess. Unfortunately, I find that the cleaner in the
yellow can (original) is much better than the fume-fee stuff in the
blue can. I also think that scrubbing with abrasives is ultimately
counterproductive. Once a surface has been abraded it will stain
more easily. Scrubbing leads to the need for more scrubbing.

So do you recommend a face mask? I'm not being facetious, but before
I
got
a self-cleaning oven and sprayed that oven cleaner, the fumes
literally
made
me choke.

I think that the bag minimizes the fumes, but a mask wouldn't hurt. I
suppose in lieu of a mask, good ventilation would help. I have the
occasional choking fit if I'm not careful. I wish I could find the
old oven cleaner that came in a jar with a brush. There wasn't a
problem with the stuff being aerosolized. I looked online thinking
that someone, somewhere must still sell the paint-on cleaner, but no
luck. Being a compulsive neat freak is hazardous to your health!

You might try writing to Easy-Off, who was one of the manufacturers of
the brush-on cleaner. I seem to recall seeing it online not so long ago,
but I cannot remember where.

Wayne

In article , John Gaughan
wrote:
(snip)
Well, you are responding to my post... I am the man who is clumsy enough
to trip over his own feet, to bite his own tongue (literally), to fall
over while sitting on the floor (and while sober). Never underestimate
the clumsiness of a Gaughan :-)

So, we should all be praying for your son? "-)
--
-Barb (www.jamlady.eboard.com updated 10-16-03; check the PickleHats tab, too.)

ShivaTiger wrote:
So, I'm wondering if anybody has some good ways to clean those Pyrex
baking dishes after they got build up crud on them?

There's always the scrubbing method but I'm wondering if there's
anything you can soak them in (Kaboom, Oxystain?) that would allow you
to reduce the scrubbing and mucsle needed?

Any tips worth sharing? TW, I did a search on Google and all I could
come up with was tips for cleaning pyrex sex toys. Cute but not what I
was looking for.

I use Mr. Muscle oven cleaner. It works great and does not harm the
Pyrex dish. Other oven cleaners may work just as well.

Wayne

--


The more sand has escaped from the hour glass of our life, the clearer
we should see through it.

Richter (1763 - 1825)

ShivaTiger wrote:
So, I'm wondering if anybody has some good ways to clean those Pyrex
baking dishes after they got build up crud on them?

I let them soak in hot water over night, then I wash them with
one of those plastic no-scratch scrubbing pad and some dish soap.
That procedure works fine for me.

"candeh" writes:

ShivaTiger wrote:

I did a search on Google and all I could come up with
was tips for cleaning pyrex sex toys.

There's such a thing as Pyrex sex toys?

Anyway, after you follow the
advice given in this thread in order to clean the burned on crud, my
advice is to get them clean before the crud gets a chance to become
permanent. Clean it SOON. Don't let it get to that state.

If steel wool doesn't cut it, use a heavy duty steel wire brush.
Actually, if you use a steel wire brush, you could forget about
soaking and scrape the shit off anyway, dry.

You better know a good Proctologist, 'cause if you wire brush your asshole,
especially dry, shitting will probably be mighty painful. LOL


---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
Sheldon
````````````
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

(Sheryl=A0Rosen) wrote:

Using Sheldon's method is cheap, easy and effective.
Go outside with your dirty pans, a bottle of ammonia, a custard cup and
a big green trash bag with a twist tie.
snip
Try it. It works!
///////////////

No kidding!!! I've been looking for a good way to clean the racks in our
smoker. I don't see why this wouldn't work.... less time, less mess, and
probably would come out a lot cleaner than what we've been doing. Just
got done with some jerky earlier this week, will clean them today.

Thanks to you both.
Sincerely, Helen