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Pizza dough - how to copy supermarket recipe?



 
 
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Old 22-09-2007, 11:50 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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I wonder how people tell that "good cooks" have not used MSG


Umm....stand next to them and watch?

no good cooks you've watched have used it, so therefore no good cooks
do. gotcha.

your pal,
blake



I can't watch them all. I'm busy.


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Old 22-09-2007, 11:51 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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That's a pretty stupid statement, even if it is directed as
Sheldon. MSG is fine when used at the right time and place.
Just like salt.

Nah. It's a cob job in the world of food.

Just like salt and pepper, right?

-sw


I'll agree when you can show me an ongoing debate about people feeling
ill
from eating pepper.

MSG does nothing but make your mouth water.


you have heard of umami?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami

your pal,
blake

No - that's interesting.

And you're the same guy that just zzzzzzzz's when someone said
it was made from seaweed?

I would have thought anyone arguing about MSG would know about
umami.

-sw


What is so strange about not wanting (prepare to read three time)

MAN MADE
MAN MADE
MAN MADE

additives in my food?


then maybe you should have said, 'i don't use m.s.g. because i don't
like man-made ingredients in my food' rather than 'no good cook uses
m.s.g.'

your pal,
blake


And around we go in circles.

No good cook adds MSG. I know because I just know these things. I am
omniscient. Scary, but true.


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Old 23-09-2007, 01:19 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Default Pizza dough - how to copy supermarket recipe?

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That's a pretty stupid statement, even if it is directed as
Sheldon. MSG is fine when used at the right time and place.
Just like salt.

Nah. It's a cob job in the world of food.

Just like salt and pepper, right?

I'll agree when you can show me an ongoing debate about people
feeling
ill
from eating pepper.

sigh That's too easy:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...&btnG=S earch
Almost as many hits as MSG.

I notice you didn't want to bring up salt - which is supposedly
killing people VIA hypertension.

Not to mention fat, another crucial flavoring that is killing
people.

So what's different about MSG, salt, fat, and pepper? MSG isn't
killing people like salt - that I've heard of, at least.

-sw

How do you explain the fact that good cooks can make fabulous food
without
adding MSG?


most good cooks would not completely rule out any ingredient,
especially a spice-type ingredient.

your pal,
blake

Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices, I
tend
to think mostly of things which come from plants.


polysorbate-80 is not remotely like m.s.g., or a spice for that
matter. don't be stupider than you have to be.

your pal,
blake


We're all done here. It has become a game, not a discussion.

Heh heh. So, you admit you've lost? Typical post from the loser.


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Old 23-09-2007, 01:21 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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"Bob" wrote in message ...
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices, I
tend
to think mostly of things which come from plants.


polysorbate-80 is not remotely like m.s.g., or a spice for that
matter. don't be stupider than you have to be.

your pal,
blake


We're all done here. It has become a game, not a discussion.

Heh heh. So, you admit you've lost? Typical post from the loser.



You must feel powerful. What's next? Beat the little wife?


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Old 23-09-2007, 01:22 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"Steve Wertz" wrote in message

That's a pretty stupid statement, even if it is directed as
Sheldon. MSG is fine when used at the right time and place.
Just like salt.

Nah. It's a cob job in the world of food.

Just like salt and pepper, right?

-sw


I'll agree when you can show me an ongoing debate about people
feeling
ill
from eating pepper.

MSG does nothing but make your mouth water.


you have heard of umami?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami

your pal,
blake

No - that's interesting.

And you're the same guy that just zzzzzzzz's when someone said
it was made from seaweed?

I would have thought anyone arguing about MSG would know about
umami.

-sw

What is so strange about not wanting (prepare to read three time)

MAN MADE
MAN MADE
MAN MADE

additives in my food?


then maybe you should have said, 'i don't use m.s.g. because i don't
like man-made ingredients in my food' rather than 'no good cook uses
m.s.g.'

your pal,
blake


And around we go in circles.

No good cook adds MSG. I know because I just know these things. I am
omniscient. Scary, but true.

You said that you were done with this in another post (one minute earlier),
virtually admitting defeat. Now you're back for more? I bet Blake can keep
on kicking you around if you let him.


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Old 23-09-2007, 01:29 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"Bob" wrote in message ...
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices, I
tend
to think mostly of things which come from plants.


polysorbate-80 is not remotely like m.s.g., or a spice for that
matter. don't be stupider than you have to be.

your pal,
blake

We're all done here. It has become a game, not a discussion.

Heh heh. So, you admit you've lost? Typical post from the loser.



You must feel powerful. What's next? Beat the little wife?

Non-sequitor. You do that a lot when you've lost a discussion or an
argument. You do have a knack for turning discussions into arguments..

Oh, and no, unlike you, I don't beat my wife.


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Old 23-09-2007, 01:37 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Default Pizza dough - how to copy supermarket recipe?

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bob" wrote in message ...
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices, I
tend
to think mostly of things which come from plants.

polysorbate-80 is not remotely like m.s.g., or a spice for that
matter. don't be stupider than you have to be.

your pal,
blake
We're all done here. It has become a game, not a discussion.

Heh heh. So, you admit you've lost? Typical post from the loser.



You must feel powerful. What's next? Beat the little wife?




You **** people off everywhere you post, Doug. You might want to reel
it in a bit or your "buddies" from your other groups will attack this
group, too.
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Old 23-09-2007, 06:19 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bob" wrote in message ...
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices,
I tend
to think mostly of things which come from plants.

polysorbate-80 is not remotely like m.s.g., or a spice for that
matter. don't be stupider than you have to be.

your pal,
blake
We're all done here. It has become a game, not a discussion.

Heh heh. So, you admit you've lost? Typical post from the loser.



You must feel powerful. What's next? Beat the little wife?



You **** people off everywhere you post, Doug. You might want to reel it
in a bit or your "buddies" from your other groups will attack this group,
too.



Your presence is proof of this, Dan. You like to follow me around.

Why is that?


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Old 23-09-2007, 07:09 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:50:32 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"blake murphy" wrote in message
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I wonder how people tell that "good cooks" have not used MSG

Umm....stand next to them and watch?

I like watching. Problem is, most people won't let you.

--Bryan


I spent a year socializing off & on with a chef trained at Culinary
Institute. We discussed MSG once, after ordering at a Chinese restaurant.
He
said the subject never comes up in classes at CIA. This doesn't address
all
the exceptions which others will now introduce to the discussion, but we
can't control that and who cares.

well, if you can't trust one chef at the c.i.a., who can you trust?

your pal,
blake


How about all his teachers, who never mentioned MSG?


if they all cooked european-style food, it's very plausible. there
are other styles of cooking.

your pal,
blake
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Old 23-09-2007, 07:10 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:51:34 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"blake murphy" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:46:39 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"Sqwertz" wrote in message
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On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:14:38 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"blake murphy" wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:37:38 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Steve Wertz" wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:13:16 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Steve Wertz" wrote in message

That's a pretty stupid statement, even if it is directed as
Sheldon. MSG is fine when used at the right time and place.
Just like salt.

Nah. It's a cob job in the world of food.

Just like salt and pepper, right?

-sw


I'll agree when you can show me an ongoing debate about people feeling
ill
from eating pepper.

MSG does nothing but make your mouth water.


you have heard of umami?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami

your pal,
blake

No - that's interesting.

And you're the same guy that just zzzzzzzz's when someone said
it was made from seaweed?

I would have thought anyone arguing about MSG would know about
umami.

-sw

What is so strange about not wanting (prepare to read three time)

MAN MADE
MAN MADE
MAN MADE

additives in my food?


then maybe you should have said, 'i don't use m.s.g. because i don't
like man-made ingredients in my food' rather than 'no good cook uses
m.s.g.'

your pal,
blake


And around we go in circles.

No good cook adds MSG. I know because I just know these things. I am
omniscient. Scary, but true.


then you must know that a lot of people think you're wrong. i know,
silly them.

your pal,
blake
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Old 23-09-2007, 07:12 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:50:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"blake murphy" wrote in message
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Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices, I
tend
to think mostly of things which come from plants.


polysorbate-80 is not remotely like m.s.g., or a spice for that
matter. don't be stupider than you have to be.

your pal,
blake


We're all done here. It has become a game, not a discussion.


and you're taking your ball and going home. well done.

your pal,
blake
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Old 23-09-2007, 07:15 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Default Pizza dough - how to copy supermarket recipe?

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:29:12 -0400, "Bob" wrote:


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Bob" wrote in message ...
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices, I
tend
to think mostly of things which come from plants.


polysorbate-80 is not remotely like m.s.g., or a spice for that
matter. don't be stupider than you have to be.

your pal,
blake

We're all done here. It has become a game, not a discussion.

Heh heh. So, you admit you've lost? Typical post from the loser.



You must feel powerful. What's next? Beat the little wife?

Non-sequitor. You do that a lot when you've lost a discussion or an
argument. You do have a knack for turning discussions into arguments..

Oh, and no, unlike you, I don't beat my wife.

you should try it. it's more satisfying than making ding-dongs on the
net look foolish.

your pal,
blake
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Old 23-09-2007, 10:48 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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"blake murphy" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:50:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"blake murphy" wrote in message
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Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices, I
tend
to think mostly of things which come from plants.


polysorbate-80 is not remotely like m.s.g., or a spice for that
matter. don't be stupider than you have to be.

your pal,
blake


We're all done here. It has become a game, not a discussion.


and you're taking your ball and going home. well done.

your pal,
blake


After 23 innings, it gets a bit silly, don't you think?

Anything added to food is an additive. Wanna debate semantics for another
week?


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Old 23-09-2007, 11:45 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"blake murphy" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:50:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"blake murphy" wrote in message
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Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices, I
tend
to think mostly of things which come from plants.


polysorbate-80 is not remotely like m.s.g., or a spice for that
matter. don't be stupider than you have to be.

your pal,
blake

We're all done here. It has become a game, not a discussion.


and you're taking your ball and going home. well done.

your pal,
blake


After 23 innings, it gets a bit silly, don't you think?


And 23 of them were you getting your butt kicked.

Anything added to food is an additive. Wanna debate semantics for another
week?


With you? You can't ever answer a direct question, and then you try to turn
everything into an argument. When you're proven wrong, you selectively
snip and twist words.




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Old 24-09-2007, 02:21 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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"Bob" wrote in message ...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"blake murphy" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:50:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"blake murphy" wrote in message
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Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices, I
tend
to think mostly of things which come from plants.


polysorbate-80 is not remotely like m.s.g., or a spice for that
matter. don't be stupider than you have to be.

your pal,
blake

We're all done here. It has become a game, not a discussion.


and you're taking your ball and going home. well done.

your pal,
blake


After 23 innings, it gets a bit silly, don't you think?


And 23 of them were you getting your butt kicked.

Anything added to food is an additive. Wanna debate semantics for another
week?


With you? You can't ever answer a direct question, and then you try to
turn everything into an argument. When you're proven wrong, you
selectively snip and twist words.


That's fun, don't you think?


 




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