"Peter A" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...
Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices, I
tend
to think mostly of things which come from plants.


MSG originally came from seaweed.

--
Peter Aitken

zzzzzzzz........

On Sep 21, 1:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"James Silverton" wrote in message

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I wonder how people tell that "good cooks" have not used MSG

Umm....stand next to them and watch?

I like watching. Problem is, most people won't let you.

--Bryan

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On Sep 21, 1:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"James Silverton" wrote in message

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I wonder how people tell that "good cooks" have not used MSG

Umm....stand next to them and watch?

I like watching. Problem is, most people won't let you.

--Bryan


I spent a year socializing off & on with a chef trained at Culinary
Institute. We discussed MSG once, after ordering at a Chinese restaurant. He
said the subject never comes up in classes at CIA. This doesn't address all
the exceptions which others will now introduce to the discussion, but we
can't control that and who cares.

"Sqwertz" wrote in message
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On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:14:38 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"blake murphy" wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:37:38 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Steve Wertz" wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:13:16 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Steve Wertz" wrote in message

That's a pretty stupid statement, even if it is directed as
Sheldon. MSG is fine when used at the right time and place.
Just like salt.

Nah. It's a cob job in the world of food.

Just like salt and pepper, right?

-sw


I'll agree when you can show me an ongoing debate about people feeling
ill
from eating pepper.

MSG does nothing but make your mouth water.


you have heard of umami?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami

your pal,
blake

No - that's interesting.

And you're the same guy that just zzzzzzzz's when someone said
it was made from seaweed?

I would have thought anyone arguing about MSG would know about
umami.

-sw

What is so strange about not wanting (prepare to read three time)

MAN MADE
MAN MADE
MAN MADE

additives in my food?

On Sep 21, 7:25?pm, Sqwertz wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:14:38 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"blake murphy" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:37:38 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Steve Wertz" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:13:16 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Steve Wertz" wrote in message

That's a pretty stupid statement, even if it is directed as
Sheldon. MSG is fine when used at the right time and place.
Just like salt.

Nah. It's a cob job in the world of food.

Just like salt and pepper, right?

-sw

I'll agree when you can show me an ongoing debate about people feeling ill
from eating pepper.

MSG does nothing but make your mouth water.

you have heard of umami?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami

your pal,
blake

No - that's interesting.

And you're the same guy that just zzzzzzzz's when someone said
it was made from seaweed?

I would have thought anyone arguing about MSG would know about
umami.

Because of his avoidance of all glutamate containing foods this may
help explain joespareouthouse's low IQ.

http://www.glutamate.org/media/pdfs/nutrgb.pdf
http://www.glutamate.org/default.asp

Sheldon

"Sheldon" wrote in message
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Because of his avoidance of all glutamate containing foods this may
help explain joespareouthouse's low IQ.

http://www.glutamate.org/media/pdfs/nutrgb.pdf
http://www.glutamate.org/default.asp

Sheldon



You never saw me say I avoided all foods which contain glutamate.

In article ,
Peter A wrote:

In article ,
says...

zzzzzzzz........


And what exactly is that supposed to mean? Oh, I get it. You have a
chance to learn something and put a small dent in your enormous
ignorance, but instead you pretend to be bored as if you can't be
bothered, like some mentally defective teenager. Shouldn't you say
"whatever?"

Nah, saying "whatever" takes too much effort. These days the cool kids
say "wev".

Miche

--
In the monastery office --
Before enlightenment: fetch mail, shuffle paper
After enlightenment: fetch mail, shuffle paper

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:12:50 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"blake murphy" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:03:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Steve Wertz" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:37:38 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Steve Wertz" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:13:16 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Steve Wertz" wrote in message

That's a pretty stupid statement, even if it is directed as
Sheldon. MSG is fine when used at the right time and place.
Just like salt.

Nah. It's a cob job in the world of food.

Just like salt and pepper, right?

I'll agree when you can show me an ongoing debate about people feeling
ill
from eating pepper.

sigh That's too easy:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...&btnG=S earch
Almost as many hits as MSG.

I notice you didn't want to bring up salt - which is supposedly
killing people VIA hypertension.

Not to mention fat, another crucial flavoring that is killing
people.

So what's different about MSG, salt, fat, and pepper? MSG isn't
killing people like salt - that I've heard of, at least.

-sw

How do you explain the fact that good cooks can make fabulous food without
adding MSG?


most good cooks would not completely rule out any ingredient,
especially a spice-type ingredient.

your pal,
blake

Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices, I tend
to think mostly of things which come from plants.


polysorbate-80 is not remotely like m.s.g., or a spice for that
matter. don't be stupider than you have to be.

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:41:01 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Peter A" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices, I
tend
to think mostly of things which come from plants.


MSG originally came from seaweed.

--
Peter Aitken

zzzzzzzz........

uh-oh, peter, you're confusing him with facts...

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:54:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"James Silverton" wrote in message
news:PdVIi.17$9r4.8@trnddc04...


I wonder how people tell that "good cooks" have not used MSG

Umm....stand next to them and watch?

no good cooks you've watched have used it, so therefore no good cooks
do. gotcha.

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:55:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Bobo Bonobo®" wrote in message
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On Sep 21, 1:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"James Silverton" wrote in message

news:PdVIi.17$9r4.8@trnddc04...

I wonder how people tell that "good cooks" have not used MSG

Umm....stand next to them and watch?

I like watching. Problem is, most people won't let you.

--Bryan


I spent a year socializing off & on with a chef trained at Culinary
Institute. We discussed MSG once, after ordering at a Chinese restaurant. He
said the subject never comes up in classes at CIA. This doesn't address all
the exceptions which others will now introduce to the discussion, but we
can't control that and who cares.

well, if you can't trust one chef at the c.i.a., who can you trust?

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:14:38 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"blake murphy" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:37:38 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Steve Wertz" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:13:16 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Steve Wertz" wrote in message

That's a pretty stupid statement, even if it is directed as
Sheldon. MSG is fine when used at the right time and place.
Just like salt.

Nah. It's a cob job in the world of food.

Just like salt and pepper, right?

-sw


I'll agree when you can show me an ongoing debate about people feeling ill
from eating pepper.

MSG does nothing but make your mouth water.


you have heard of umami?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami

your pal,
blake

No - that's interesting.

well, it explains why some good cooks use it.

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:46:39 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Sqwertz" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:14:38 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"blake murphy" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:37:38 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Steve Wertz" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:13:16 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Steve Wertz" wrote in message

That's a pretty stupid statement, even if it is directed as
Sheldon. MSG is fine when used at the right time and place.
Just like salt.

Nah. It's a cob job in the world of food.

Just like salt and pepper, right?

-sw


I'll agree when you can show me an ongoing debate about people feeling
ill
from eating pepper.

MSG does nothing but make your mouth water.


you have heard of umami?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami

your pal,
blake

No - that's interesting.

And you're the same guy that just zzzzzzzz's when someone said
it was made from seaweed?

I would have thought anyone arguing about MSG would know about
umami.

-sw

What is so strange about not wanting (prepare to read three time)

MAN MADE
MAN MADE
MAN MADE

additives in my food?


then maybe you should have said, 'i don't use m.s.g. because i don't
like man-made ingredients in my food' rather than 'no good cook uses
m.s.g.'

your pal,
blake

"blake murphy" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:12:50 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"blake murphy" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:03:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Steve Wertz" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:37:38 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Steve Wertz" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:13:16 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Steve Wertz" wrote in message

That's a pretty stupid statement, even if it is directed as
Sheldon. MSG is fine when used at the right time and place.
Just like salt.

Nah. It's a cob job in the world of food.

Just like salt and pepper, right?

I'll agree when you can show me an ongoing debate about people
feeling
ill
from eating pepper.

sigh That's too easy:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...&btnG=S earch
Almost as many hits as MSG.

I notice you didn't want to bring up salt - which is supposedly
killing people VIA hypertension.

Not to mention fat, another crucial flavoring that is killing
people.

So what's different about MSG, salt, fat, and pepper? MSG isn't
killing people like salt - that I've heard of, at least.

-sw

How do you explain the fact that good cooks can make fabulous food
without
adding MSG?


most good cooks would not completely rule out any ingredient,
especially a spice-type ingredient.

your pal,
blake

Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices, I
tend
to think mostly of things which come from plants.


polysorbate-80 is not remotely like m.s.g., or a spice for that
matter. don't be stupider than you have to be.

your pal,
blake

We're all done here. It has become a game, not a discussion.

"blake murphy" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:55:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Bobo Bonobo®" wrote in message
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On Sep 21, 1:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"James Silverton" wrote in message

news:PdVIi.17$9r4.8@trnddc04...

I wonder how people tell that "good cooks" have not used MSG

Umm....stand next to them and watch?

I like watching. Problem is, most people won't let you.

--Bryan


I spent a year socializing off & on with a chef trained at Culinary
Institute. We discussed MSG once, after ordering at a Chinese restaurant.
He
said the subject never comes up in classes at CIA. This doesn't address
all
the exceptions which others will now introduce to the discussion, but we
can't control that and who cares.

well, if you can't trust one chef at the c.i.a., who can you trust?

your pal,
blake

How about all his teachers, who never mentioned MSG?