Just returned from Sam's. Their chicken is all that Perdue brined crap now.
In the past, it wasn't pre-brined. It wasn't Perdue, either.

Yes, I complained in the meat department, they had not noticed the change and
told me that their chickens were "all natural".
I handed them a package and told them to read. Shrugged shoulders. I then
explained that basically, we (as customers) are paying 12% of our chicken
money for salt water. Another shrug.

When I explained that my mother was on a sodium restricted diet, and couldn't
eat that stuff, they began to listen.

At the service counter, I complained again, explaining that we were paying
for salt water, and several other customers were listening intently, and we
all filled out the comment cards.

When I got home, I called and spoke to a manager. He was surprised, and
seemed even more surprised that the people in the meat department hadn't
noticed the difference. (yeah, right!)

I am doing my part. One person can't make a change, but the squeaky wheel...

BOB
off the soapbox to build a fire for some pulled pork for tomorrow

" BOB" wrote in message
...
Just returned from Sam's. Their chicken is all that Perdue brined crap
now.
In the past, it wasn't pre-brined. It wasn't Perdue, either.

Yes, I complained in the meat department, they had not noticed the change
and
told me that their chickens were "all natural".
I handed them a package and told them to read. Shrugged shoulders. I
then
explained that basically, we (as customers) are paying 12% of our chicken
money for salt water. Another shrug.

When I explained that my mother was on a sodium restricted diet, and
couldn't
eat that stuff, they began to listen.

At the service counter, I complained again, explaining that we were paying
for salt water, and several other customers were listening intently, and
we
all filled out the comment cards.

When I got home, I called and spoke to a manager. He was surprised, and
seemed even more surprised that the people in the meat department hadn't
noticed the difference. (yeah, right!)

I am doing my part. One person can't make a change, but the squeaky
wheel...


Is that the only problem you have with Wal-Mart?

Vox Humana typed:
" BOB" wrote in message
...
Just returned from Sam's. Their chicken is all that Perdue brined crap
now.
In the past, it wasn't pre-brined. It wasn't Perdue, either.

Yes, I complained in the meat department, they had not noticed the change
and
told me that their chickens were "all natural".
I handed them a package and told them to read. Shrugged shoulders. I
then
explained that basically, we (as customers) are paying 12% of our chicken
money for salt water. Another shrug.

When I explained that my mother was on a sodium restricted diet, and
couldn't
eat that stuff, they began to listen.

At the service counter, I complained again, explaining that we were paying
for salt water, and several other customers were listening intently, and
we
all filled out the comment cards.

When I got home, I called and spoke to a manager. He was surprised, and
seemed even more surprised that the people in the meat department hadn't
noticed the difference. (yeah, right!)

I am doing my part. One person can't make a change, but the squeaky
wheel...


Is that the only problem you have with Wal-Mart?

Sam's, not Wal-mart. Yes, I know it's the same parent company, but they're
*not* run the same.

BOB

" BOB" wrote in message
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Vox Humana typed:
" BOB" wrote in message
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Just returned from Sam's. Their chicken is all that Perdue brined crap
now.
In the past, it wasn't pre-brined. It wasn't Perdue, either.

Yes, I complained in the meat department, they had not noticed the
change
and
told me that their chickens were "all natural".
I handed them a package and told them to read. Shrugged shoulders. I
then
explained that basically, we (as customers) are paying 12% of our
chicken
money for salt water. Another shrug.

When I explained that my mother was on a sodium restricted diet, and
couldn't
eat that stuff, they began to listen.

At the service counter, I complained again, explaining that we were
paying
for salt water, and several other customers were listening intently,
and
we
all filled out the comment cards.

When I got home, I called and spoke to a manager. He was surprised,
and
seemed even more surprised that the people in the meat department
hadn't
noticed the difference. (yeah, right!)

I am doing my part. One person can't make a change, but the squeaky
wheel...


Is that the only problem you have with Wal-Mart?

Sam's, not Wal-mart. Yes, I know it's the same parent company, but
they're
*not* run the same.

BOB

Yes, but I think it was on this newsgroup that I learned about the beef at
WalMart. I had been satisfied with it and then several times in a row, I
got beef that was tough and tasteless and I couldn't seem to do anything
with it. Someone pointed out that WalMart had gone to a lesser quality of
beef. I was so relieved to find out that it wasn't me and now I go
elsewhere for beef!

j

" BOB" wrote in message
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Vox Humana typed:
" BOB" wrote in message
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Just returned from Sam's. Their chicken is all that Perdue brined crap
now.
In the past, it wasn't pre-brined. It wasn't Perdue, either.

Yes, I complained in the meat department, they had not noticed the
change
and
told me that their chickens were "all natural".
I handed them a package and told them to read. Shrugged shoulders. I
then
explained that basically, we (as customers) are paying 12% of our
chicken
money for salt water. Another shrug.

When I explained that my mother was on a sodium restricted diet, and
couldn't
eat that stuff, they began to listen.

At the service counter, I complained again, explaining that we were
paying
for salt water, and several other customers were listening intently,
and
we
all filled out the comment cards.

When I got home, I called and spoke to a manager. He was surprised,
and
seemed even more surprised that the people in the meat department
hadn't
noticed the difference. (yeah, right!)

I am doing my part. One person can't make a change, but the squeaky
wheel...


Is that the only problem you have with Wal-Mart?

Sam's, not Wal-mart. Yes, I know it's the same parent company, but
they're
*not* run the same.

Why is Sam's better?

BOB wrote:

Vox Humana typed:

" BOB" wrote in message
.. .

Just returned from Sam's. Their chicken is all that Perdue brined crap

now.

In the past, it wasn't pre-brined. It wasn't Perdue, either.

Yes, I complained in the meat department, they had not noticed the change

and

told me that their chickens were "all natural".
I handed them a package and told them to read. Shrugged shoulders. I

then

explained that basically, we (as customers) are paying 12% of our chicken
money for salt water. Another shrug.

When I explained that my mother was on a sodium restricted diet, and

couldn't

eat that stuff, they began to listen.

At the service counter, I complained again, explaining that we were paying
for salt water, and several other customers were listening intently, and

we

all filled out the comment cards.

When I got home, I called and spoke to a manager. He was surprised, and
seemed even more surprised that the people in the meat department hadn't
noticed the difference. (yeah, right!)

I am doing my part. One person can't make a change, but the squeaky

wheel...

Is that the only problem you have with Wal-Mart?


Sam's, not Wal-mart. Yes, I know it's the same parent company, but they're
*not* run the same.

BOB



But purchasing is.

--
Alan

"If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion, and
avoid the people, you might better stay home."
--James Michener

"Steve Wertz" wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:08:48 GMT, "Vox Humana"
wrote:

" BOB" wrote in message

Sam's, not Wal-mart. Yes, I know it's the same parent company, but
they're *not* run the same.

Why is Sam's better?

Sams has real meat, cut by real on-site butchers, not all that
case-ready crap like Walmart.


I was thinking in more global terms. I think that the issue with their meat
is symptomatic of their approach to business. Wal-Mart tends to cut corner
and cheapen everything it can to squeeze the last penny of profit out of
each transaction. They take the same approach with their employees and
apparently discriminate in their hiring and promotion practices. Wal-Mart
can move in to a small town and cause the death of the local business
district. That they put some brine in their chicken seems like a minor
issue to me.

Vox Humana wrote:
I was thinking in more global terms. I think that the issue with
their meat is symptomatic of their approach to business. Wal-Mart
tends to cut corner and cheapen everything it can to squeeze the last
penny of profit out of each transaction. They take the same approach
with their employees and apparently discriminate in their hiring and
promotion practices. Wal-Mart can move in to a small town and cause
the death of the local business district. That they put some brine
in their chicken seems like a minor issue to me.

There is a dark side to capitalism, and its name is "Wal-Mart."

--
John Gaughan
http://www.johngaughan.net/

On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:30:33 -0500, John Gaughan
wrote:

Vox Humana wrote:
I was thinking in more global terms. I think that the issue with
their meat is symptomatic of their approach to business. Wal-Mart
tends to cut corner and cheapen everything it can to squeeze the last
penny of profit out of each transaction. They take the same approach
with their employees and apparently discriminate in their hiring and
promotion practices. Wal-Mart can move in to a small town and cause
the death of the local business district. That they put some brine
in their chicken seems like a minor issue to me.

There is a dark side to capitalism, and its name is "Wal-Mart."

"We have met the enemy and he is us." We go for cheap mass-marketing
and then complain that individual service and high quality is missing.
I often think of the "savings" of WalMart (3mi drive, parking in the
next county, wandering at least an aisle-mile inside, waiting in line)
compared to the now vanished Woolworth's, A&P, pharmacy, and barber
within walking distance. If enough are willing to decide "it's cheaper
at the Big Box," they can't mutter about things not being like they
used to. Of *course* WalMart is interested in max profit -- what
businessperson isn't? If they can use a huge purchasing power to
deliver pseudo-chicken that a huge market will buy, it's scarcely in
their interest to carry a 'gourmet' free-range chicken at a premium
price. Who knows -- in 10 years, there may be no Real foods at all,
just mass-produced imitations. Businesses sell what people will buy.
Look at your supermarket. Mine, of what I'd call moderate size, has
one side of one aisle entirely full of chips and snacks, and another
of breakfast cereals. I'm guessing these are fast-moving, high-profit
items. (In advance of a weather diasaster, people stock up on bottled
water, batteries, and...chips.) WalMart is actually large enough
(here) to occasionally feature some off-center products -- Mexican
cheeses and somewhat exotic veg.

"Soilent Green" Yikes!