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Whatever Happened to Spaghetti?



 
 
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Old 28-08-2007, 10:09 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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From the time I was born some 50 years ago, it was called spaghetti.
My mother made it, we got it in the school cafeteria. we ate it in
restaurants, and my relatives served it. It was always called
SPAGHETTI. All of a sudden it seems the name has changed to pasta.
What the hell is PASTA?

I thought I was just over reacting and the word Pasta was just
something used by the ultra-wealthy because they always seem to use a
fancy name for something in order to raise the price, such as calling
coffee, java. Everyone knows that java costs two, three or more times
the price of a cup of coffee, and its the same darn thing.

It was not until the other day when I went to the grocery store and
asked this 20ish looking store employee where to find the spaghetti
sauce. He looked at me and said "what's that"? I was shocked and
felt like telling the idiot to find a different job if he dont know
what the #$%^ spaghetti sauce is, but I did my best to remain calm and
say "pasta sauce". He knew right where that was.......

Has the word "spaghetti" been banned for some reason? Is there some
sort of politically incorrect sexual connotation to that word that
offends the religious right, or what? Or does it just cost more
because they now call it pasta?

JB
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Old 28-08-2007, 10:48 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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wrote

From the time I was born some 50 years ago, it was called spaghetti.
My mother made it, we got it in the school cafeteria. we ate it in
restaurants, and my relatives served it. It was always called
SPAGHETTI. All of a sudden it seems the name has changed to pasta.
What the hell is PASTA?


The big family which spaghetti belong to, along with maccheroni,
tagliatelle, capellini... then there is the main subdivision between
egg based and non egg based. Then in the non-egg pastas we find the
wheat ones and the hard wheat ones. There are also many other
subdivisions.

It was not until the other day when I went to the grocery store and
asked this 20ish looking store employee where to find the spaghetti
sauce. He looked at me and said "what's that"? I was shocked and
felt like telling the idiot to find a different job if he dont know
what the #$%^ spaghetti sauce is, but I did my best to remain calm

and
say "pasta sauce". He knew right where that was.......

Has the word "spaghetti" been banned for some reason? Is there some
sort of politically incorrect sexual connotation to that word that
offends the religious right, or what? Or does it just cost more
because they now call it pasta?


It's strange, since spaghetti are both "spaghetti" and "pasta". One
should simply know that pasta is the family and spaghetti is just one
format, usually belonging to the non egg-based branch but who knows?
Someone could be calling theyr capellini (usually egg-based)
"spaghetti", or doing capellini without eggs...
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Old 28-08-2007, 11:17 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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From the time I was born some 50 years ago, it was called spaghetti.
My mother made it, we got it in the school cafeteria. we ate it in
restaurants, and my relatives served it. It was always called
SPAGHETTI. All of a sudden it seems the name has changed to pasta.
What the hell is PASTA?


The name hasn't been changed. Spaghetti is a form of pasta. Just like
Penne, Macaroni, and other shapes. Spaghetti is the shape. My husband's
Italian grandma called all pasta Macaroni, no matter the shape.

I thought I was just over reacting and the word Pasta was just
something used by the ultra-wealthy because they always seem to use a
fancy name for something in order to raise the price, such as calling
coffee, java. Everyone knows that java costs two, three or more times
the price of a cup of coffee, and its the same darn thing.

It was not until the other day when I went to the grocery store and
asked this 20ish looking store employee where to find the spaghetti
sauce. He looked at me and said "what's that"? I was shocked and
felt like telling the idiot to find a different job if he dont know
what the #$%^ spaghetti sauce is, but I did my best to remain calm and
say "pasta sauce". He knew right where that was.......


Huh? Some of it even says Spaghetti sauce right on the can.

Has the word "spaghetti" been banned for some reason? Is there some
sort of politically incorrect sexual connotation to that word that
offends the religious right, or what? Or does it just cost more
because they now call it pasta?


It has been called pasta for years, because that's what it is.


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Old 28-08-2007, 12:05 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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In article EKRAi.110$Lz5.21@trndny04,
"Julie Bove" wrote:

Has the word "spaghetti" been banned for some reason? Is there some
sort of politically incorrect sexual connotation to that word that
offends the religious right, or what? Or does it just cost more
because they now call it pasta?


It has been called pasta for years, because that's what it is.


"Pasta" covers the entire massive spectrum of flour based Italian
noodles.

I rather like Fusilli personally.

Holds more sauce.
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Old 28-08-2007, 02:11 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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In article ,
wrote:

From the time I was born some 50 years ago, it was called spaghetti.
My mother made it, we got it in the school cafeteria. we ate it in
restaurants, and my relatives served it. It was always called
SPAGHETTI. All of a sudden it seems the name has changed to pasta.
What the hell is PASTA?

I thought I was just over reacting and the word Pasta was just
something used by the ultra-wealthy because they always seem to use a
fancy name for something in order to raise the price, such as calling
coffee, java. Everyone knows that java costs two, three or more times
the price of a cup of coffee, and its the same darn thing.

It was not until the other day when I went to the grocery store and
asked this 20ish looking store employee where to find the spaghetti
sauce. He looked at me and said "what's that"? I was shocked and
felt like telling the idiot to find a different job if he dont know
what the #$%^ spaghetti sauce is, but I did my best to remain calm and
say "pasta sauce". He knew right where that was.......

Has the word "spaghetti" been banned for some reason? Is there some
sort of politically incorrect sexual connotation to that word that
offends the religious right, or what? Or does it just cost more
because they now call it pasta?

JB


Fifty years ago, huh? Fifty years ago *spaghetti noodles* were the most
common kind of pasta in the supermarket, I'll bet (I'm not including
short flat pasta called egg noodles). Ring noodles and shell mac and
elbow mac, too, but, I don't think there was so much rigatoni,
canneloni, ziti, fusilli, penne, vermicelli, bow ties, capellini,
linguine *in your average generic supermarket.* Creamette makes at
least two kinds of boxed spaghetti (noodles/pasta), regular and thin
(not to be confused with vermicelli).

Pasta's not a fancy word, it's the name of a group of 'noodle' products.

Fifty years ago there weren't seventy-eleven cooking shows on television
touting recipes to use the various kinds of pasta available. It was a
different time. If I tell my family we're having spaghetti for dinner
they know what they're getting. If I say we're having spaghetti with
bolognese sauce, they'll ask what that is.

Don't be too hard on your grocery clerk -- what you call spaghetti sauce
can dress other pastas besides spaghetti. :-) Changing times and all.
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Old 28-08-2007, 02:21 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Ward Abbott said...

My issue is linguine, spaghetti, manicotti, rotini, etc. It is as
if changing the shape of a flour/water concoction is going to alter
the flavor of the finished dish.



Ok, I'll chime in here.

The shape doesn't change the flavor, rather it can increase flavor!

I wouldn't think of using my pesto with linguine. I'll use rotini for pesto
since it can cling to a whole lot more of it than linguine! So while pesto
on linguine may taste good, a few rotini clogged with pesto will taste more
of pesto! It's just a change in the ratio.

Well that and with rotini, it's so much easier to stab a few onto a fork
and indulge!

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Imho,

Andy
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Old 28-08-2007, 02:31 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 07:45:30 -0400, Ward Abbott
wrote:

My issue is linguine, spaghetti, manicotti, rotini, etc. It is as
if changing the shape of a flour/water concoction is going to alter
the flavor of the finished dish.


Spaghetti, pasta, or dumplings. All tastes good to me.

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Old 28-08-2007, 03:04 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On Aug 28, 3:09 am, wrote:

Has the word "spaghetti" been banned for some reason?


It has been deemed disciminatory since children can't pronounce it
properly.

-sw

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Old 28-08-2007, 03:17 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On Aug 28, 6:14 am, Melba's Jammin'
wrote:


I believe the rule is the lighter the sauce, the lighter the pasta.
Angel hair doesn't get bolognese sauce (unless you're at my house), it
gets olive oil and fresh tomatoes and garlic and basil. Like that. :-)


It sometimes gets bolognese at my house as well.

I like capellini with meatball sauce.
I make meatballs with (oh, I can already hear the insults coming) fat
free saltines and EVOO. I brown them nicely on all sides and simmer
them in a sauce consisting of tomato paste, water and bay leaf. I
serve it over (often buttered) capellini.
Cooked spinach is a very nice accompaniment.

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