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Whatever Happened to Spaghetti?



 
 
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Old 29-08-2007, 06:14 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On Aug 28, 12:37 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Omelet" wrote in message

news
In article ,
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


I have a serious question. In most schools, there is a problem with the
water fountains. They're adjusted so hardly any water comes out, so you
have
to come into contact with the metal spout, which no sane person will do.
Is
there a secret society of janitors which requires this?


Actually, this janitor has often had to struggle with the maintenance
guys to get them to rectify that very problem. Oooh, speaking of
rectify, my lead player just bought himself a Mesa Boogie.

Why are you drinking out of water fountains?
I carry my own water bottles. shudder


And you accuse ME of being white trash? shrugs


There is nothing wrong with drinking from water fountains which are working
properly.


Some folks live in areas where the tap water is awful. Others live
where the tap water is good, but they either have a touch of the ol'
OCD, or they're just plain fools.

--Bryan

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Old 29-08-2007, 06:44 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
Blair P. Houghton
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wrote:
From the time I was born some 50 years ago, it was called spaghetti.
My mother made it, we got it in the school cafeteria. we ate it in
restaurants, and my relatives served it. It was always called
SPAGHETTI. All of a sudden it seems the name has changed to pasta.
What the hell is PASTA?


Pasta is what Spaghetti was before American marketing
limited our choices to what was familiar.

It was not until the other day when I went to the grocery store and
asked this 20ish looking store employee where to find the spaghetti
sauce. He looked at me and said "what's that"?


You are so full of it.

I was shocked and
felt like telling the idiot to find a different job if he dont know
what the #$%^ spaghetti sauce is, but I did my best to remain calm and
say "pasta sauce". He knew right where that was.......

Has the word "spaghetti" been banned for some reason? Is there some
sort of politically incorrect sexual connotation to that word that
offends the religious right, or what? Or does it just cost more
because they now call it pasta?


I think you were had. There's no way that person didn't
recognize "spaghetti". Just not possible.

--Blair
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Old 29-08-2007, 06:46 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On Aug 28, 3:09 am, wrote:
From the time I was born some 50 years ago, it was called spaghetti.
My mother made it, we got it in the school cafeteria. we ate it in
restaurants, and my relatives served it. It was always called
SPAGHETTI. All of a sudden it seems the name has changed to pasta.
What the hell is PASTA?


All of a sudden? What is this, 1988?


I thought I was just over reacting and the word Pasta was just
something used by the ultra-wealthy because they always seem to use a
fancy name for something in order to raise the price, such as calling
coffee, java. Everyone knows that java costs two, three or more times
the price of a cup of coffee, and its the same darn thing.

It was not until the other day when I went to the grocery store and
asked this 20ish looking store employee where to find the spaghetti
sauce. He looked at me and said "what's that"? I was shocked and
felt like telling the idiot to find a different job if he dont know
what the #$%^ spaghetti sauce is, but I did my best to remain calm and
say "pasta sauce". He knew right where that was.......

Has the word "spaghetti" been banned for some reason? Is there some
sort of politically incorrect sexual connotation to that word that
offends the religious right, or what? Or does it just cost more
because they now call it pasta?


Wow. You really need to get on some medication, and get a damn
hobby.

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Old 29-08-2007, 08:26 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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http://www.judithgreenwood.com
"Andy" q ha scritto nel messaggio
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cybercat said...

Is Vermicelli "little worms?"



That would be orzo?

Andy


Orzo is barley and although I think it looks like rice, it seems early
Italians thought barley.


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Old 29-08-2007, 08:30 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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"Melba's Jammin'" ha scritto nel messaggio
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"Melba's Jammin'" ha scritto nel messaggio
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I don't think it changes the flavor; it's a matter of which pasta
complements a particular kind of sauce so as to maximize one's
enjoyment
of the sauce.


Sure it can!


All righty, then. And I do.

Example: fresh egg pasta is not suitable for lots of sauces. Even the
scale
of the pasta vs the scale of what's with it can alter it. Tubular ones
carry runny sauces inside. Creamy sauces need some corners to catch on
to.



Come to Rome and go to the Pasta Museum! It's not far from the Trevi
Fountain.


Well, where were you last November when I was in Rome?!! g
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In Umbria, as always, or almost always. I often do meet people I meet on my
blog. It's fun and something I've been doing for many years. I once went
to Oslo for a long weekend at the invitation of an electronic acquaintance.
That was, however, when I was in a more lucrative career than cooking.

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Old 29-08-2007, 12:40 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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cybercat MEOWED:

"Robert L Bass" wrote

I like to cook different types with various recipes. Once I try one out
and it works as written I will usually start experimenting.


I love spiral pasta (rotini) for cheesy, meaty, garlicky things, because
each individual noodle catches good stuff.



You should use it for tampons, then, dear...

;-D

--
Best
Greg



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Old 29-08-2007, 12:47 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Joseph Littleshoes wrote:

wrote:
From the time I was born some 50 years ago, it was called spaghetti.
My mother made it, we got it in the school cafeteria. we ate it in
restaurants, and my relatives served it. It was always called
SPAGHETTI. All of a sudden it seems the name has changed to pasta.
What the hell is PASTA?


I thought I was just over reacting and the word Pasta was just
something used by the ultra-wealthy because they always seem to use a
fancy name for something in order to raise the price, such as calling
coffee, java. Everyone knows that java costs two, three or more times
the price of a cup of coffee, and its the same darn thing.


It was not until the other day when I went to the grocery store and
asked this 20ish looking store employee where to find the spaghetti
sauce. He looked at me and said "what's that"? I was shocked and
felt like telling the idiot to find a different job if he dont know
what the #$%^ spaghetti sauce is, but I did my best to remain calm and
say "pasta sauce". He knew right where that was.......


Has the word "spaghetti" been banned for some reason? Is there some
sort of politically incorrect sexual connotation to that word that
offends the religious right, or what? Or does it just cost more
because they now call it pasta?


JB


Ever hear of the reorient "Spago"? which means string, spaghetti is just
the diminutive form of spago.

Your experience sounds sort of like the one i had at a whole foods store
when i asked where they kept the coke and pepsi and i was informed they
did not sell "such things."

It is a form of snobbery, nothing else.



Gotta love the Whole Foods "ethos"...a new one opened up in my 'hood
and when I asked for a plastic bag the blissninnie checkout droid said
kiddingly, "Are you SURE...!!!???". I said, "Oh, why should I geel
guilty about a plastic bag when most every vehicle in your lot is a
monster SUV driven by ONE yuppie person...". Sheesh...

Won't be going to WH very much, lol...


--
Best
Greg



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Old 29-08-2007, 01:02 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Blair P. Houghton wrote:

Pasta is what Spaghetti was before American marketing
limited our choices to what was familiar.




"Wednesday Is Prince Spaghetti Day"...

IIRC some of this started during WWII when meat was rationed,
spaghetti was promoted as a "meatless" alternative...along with
macaroni.

I collect old magazines and there are ads in say, WWII era _Life_
magazines that push this. To a lot of middle Americans, spaghetti
(let alone pasta) was something a little bit exotic, there was a big
push by marketers to make it "acceptable". In movies of the day,
Italian restaurants were often featured as something slightly exotic
and urbane, replete with the checked tablecloths, spaghetti and meat
balls, and the straw chianti bottle on the table...

I have _Life_, etc. mags from the mid - 50's when modern
"convenience" - type foods became the rage. There are these HUGE - ass
color double - page spreads by Chef Boyardee and the like promoting
"Ravioli -- now in a CAN...!!!". It's presented like some kind of
space age miracle...pretty interesting, that age of Madison Avenue
overkill.


;-)


--
Best
Greg




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Old 29-08-2007, 02:16 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On Aug 29, 5:40 am, Gregory Morrow
wrote:
cybercat MEOWED:

"Robert L Bass" wrote


I like to cook different types with various recipes. Once I try one out
and it works as written I will usually start experimenting.


I love spiral pasta (rotini) for cheesy, meaty, garlicky things, because
each individual noodle catches good stuff.


You should use it for tampons, then, dear...


You have some interesting sexual interests. "Good stuff?" Hmmm?

;-D

--
Best
Greg


--Bryan

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Old 29-08-2007, 02:18 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On Aug 29, 5:47 am, Gregory Morrow
wrote:
Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
wrote:
From the time I was born some 50 years ago, it was called spaghetti.
My mother made it, we got it in the school cafeteria. we ate it in
restaurants, and my relatives served it. It was always called
SPAGHETTI. All of a sudden it seems the name has changed to pasta.
What the hell is PASTA?


I thought I was just over reacting and the word Pasta was just
something used by the ultra-wealthy because they always seem to use a
fancy name for something in order to raise the price, such as calling
coffee, java. Everyone knows that java costs two, three or more times
the price of a cup of coffee, and its the same darn thing.


It was not until the other day when I went to the grocery store and
asked this 20ish looking store employee where to find the spaghetti
sauce. He looked at me and said "what's that"? I was shocked and
felt like telling the idiot to find a different job if he dont know
what the #$%^ spaghetti sauce is, but I did my best to remain calm and
say "pasta sauce". He knew right where that was.......


Has the word "spaghetti" been banned for some reason? Is there some
sort of politically incorrect sexual connotation to that word that
offends the religious right, or what? Or does it just cost more
because they now call it pasta?


JB


Ever hear of the reorient "Spago"? which means string, spaghetti is just
the diminutive form of spago.


Your experience sounds sort of like the one i had at a whole foods store
when i asked where they kept the coke and pepsi and i was informed they
did not sell "such things."


It is a form of snobbery, nothing else.


Gotta love the Whole Foods "ethos"...a new one opened up in my 'hood
and when I asked for a plastic bag the blissninnie checkout droid said
kiddingly, "Are you SURE...!!!???". I said, "Oh, why should I geel
guilty about a plastic bag when most every vehicle in your lot is a
monster SUV driven by ONE yuppie person...". Sheesh...


That was a great "Snappy Answer."

Won't be going to WH very much, lol...


They are very expensive.

--
Best
Greg


--Bryan

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Old 29-08-2007, 04:05 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On 2007-08-29, Blair P Houghton wrote:

I think you were had. There's no way that person didn't
recognize "spaghetti". Just not possible.


You must not interact much with today's astonishingly ignorant kids. I
had a garage sale and a kid in his late teens or early 20s (gen y?)
pulled up in his car and asked me if I had any recording equipment. I
was standing right next to a large stereo reel-to-reel tape recorder.
I was speechless, so just turned a half-way around and pointed at the
recorder. He said, "What's that?" This appears to be the norm rather
then the exception with the latest generation that seems completely
oblivious to anything beyond the sphere of an ipod or cell phone.

nb
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Old 29-08-2007, 04:49 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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notbob wrote:
On 2007-08-29, Blair P Houghton wrote:

I think you were had. There's no way that person didn't
recognize "spaghetti". Just not possible.


You must not interact much with today's astonishingly ignorant kids. I
had a garage sale and a kid in his late teens or early 20s (gen y?)
pulled up in his car and asked me if I had any recording equipment. I
was standing right next to a large stereo reel-to-reel tape recorder.
I was speechless, so just turned a half-way around and pointed at the
recorder. He said, "What's that?" This appears to be the norm rather
then the exception with the latest generation that seems completely
oblivious to anything beyond the sphere of an ipod or cell phone.


In our supermarket, I am often asked by the (young) check out operator the
name of simple vegetables. Peppers, leeks and broccoli are just some!


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Old 29-08-2007, 05:47 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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"Ophelia" wrote in message
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notbob wrote:
On 2007-08-29, Blair P Houghton wrote:

I think you were had. There's no way that person didn't
recognize "spaghetti". Just not possible.


You must not interact much with today's astonishingly ignorant kids. I
had a garage sale and a kid in his late teens or early 20s (gen y?)
pulled up in his car and asked me if I had any recording equipment. I
was standing right next to a large stereo reel-to-reel tape recorder.
I was speechless, so just turned a half-way around and pointed at the
recorder. He said, "What's that?" This appears to be the norm rather
then the exception with the latest generation that seems completely
oblivious to anything beyond the sphere of an ipod or cell phone.


In our supermarket, I am often asked by the (young) check out operator the
name of simple vegetables. Peppers, leeks and broccoli are just some!

There, too, heh?
Same here -- all the time. Except in the Asian markets -- the check-out
women never skip a beat.
Dee Dee


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Old 29-08-2007, 05:54 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Ophelia wrote:

In our supermarket, I am often asked by the (young) check out operator the
name of simple vegetables. Peppers, leeks and broccoli are just some!

Jaime Oliver did that same test for school kids when he kicked off his
program to improve school food. Sad to say way too many couldn't
identify even the most common of vegetables.
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Old 29-08-2007, 09:57 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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"notbob" wrote in message
. ..
On 2007-08-29, Blair P Houghton wrote:

I think you were had. There's no way that person didn't
recognize "spaghetti". Just not possible.


You must not interact much with today's astonishingly ignorant kids. I
had a garage sale and a kid in his late teens or early 20s (gen y?)
pulled up in his car and asked me if I had any recording equipment. I
was standing right next to a large stereo reel-to-reel tape recorder.
I was speechless, so just turned a half-way around and pointed at the
recorder. He said, "What's that?" This appears to be the norm rather
then the exception with the latest generation that seems completely
oblivious to anything beyond the sphere of an ipod or cell phone.

nb


Cut the kid some slack they haven't made a reel to reel recorder since
before he was probably born. LOL Actually the last one I bought was back in
about 1980 and they where hard to find then.

Joe Cilinceon


 




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