"Dee Dee" wrote in message
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I just read an article yesterday about almonds. From what I understand
they will be pasteurized from now on -- not made into milk and then
pasteurized, but the whole almond. With the guidelines now in place, or
almost-in-place as to GMO and irradiation, I wondered if this pasteurized
is a euphamism in this case for irradiated, which granted, some say is a
good thing ;-))

But I believe there had been some problems with almonds in the last few
years. I cannot recite it now, maybe someone else can who is interested
in this sort of inquiry. But as a result I have cut back on my almond
intake, and upped my intake of fish oil, being as careful as I can to buy
fish oil from Norway and hoping they don't buy it from other suspect
countries.

Dee Dee


Because of salmonella. Myself, I wish they'd leave well enough alone. At
least for organics, my purchase of preference anyway. Which have not had
any salmonella outbreaks.

Lynne A

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"Dee Dee" wrote:

Geez Dee Dee! If you need calcium, there is nothing wrong with pills!
Just be sure to take a balanced supplement, not calcium tabs. They work
better. The ones I take work great according to my blood levels.

"Now" brand "Full spectrum Minerals". They are not expensive either.

Om, I had been taking calcium supplements, did a lot of homework on them.
The last dexascan in 2006 my bone density had risen up to the point of
almost normal, but still diagnosed as osteopenia, (a warning!) and in the
span of 2 years before it has gone up 6%. That's pretty good for a person
my age. But in January I will have another Dexascan to see where I am. The
doctor suggested I cut back cheese and ice cream and whole milk because of
cholesterol, and on that I have done pretty good, but not totally on my good
behavior.

But cheese and bread, I could live on it -- you can guess what my favorite
book was when I was a kid. HEIDI.
Dee Dee

Calcium supplements are worthless...

After having some serious Calcium deficiency problems several years ago
(early 30's), I consulted with an MD that specialized in sports
nutrition. I was lifting heavy weights at the time and experiencing
Quadricep cramps from time to time. (Talk about serious pain!!!)

I'd tried several different calcium formulas.

Cohen told me that my problem is that I was taking CALCIUM. He said that
it needs to be balanced. Calcium/magnesium/phosphorous have to be in a
set ratio to be absorbed and used properly.

I should have learned that when I was rehabbing baby birds. Their
mineral BALANCE is critical due to their ungodly metabolic rate. Many
baby birds go from hatching to flight in under 4 weeks!

He said to take a balanced mineral supplement that included all three
and it was even better if it was a mixed mineral supplement. That is why
I recommended that one in my post.

I've not had a leg cramp one since I started using it, even with a high
protein diet that tends to cause an increase in renal calcium loss.

Dr. Cohen was right.

:-)

It's one of the reasons dairy calcium works. It's not JUST calcium. If
you wish to avoid the drawbacks of a high dairy diet (for me it's milk
sugar/Lactose), take a balanced mineral supplement. "Now" and "Twinlabs"
both make a good one.

I use "Now" and my serum Calcium/Phosphorous levels are always in normal
range. I still have to supplement additional Magnesium, but that is a
separate problem, probably not one you have to worry about.
--
Peace, Om

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"LynneA" wrote:

I'll have to look for that, I haven't heard of it up till now. I will be
ordering some Sheeze once the weather cools off enough. It's supposed to
actually melt-we'll seeG

Soy Kaas was one of the few I found that actually did melt.
I found it at Whole Foods and Central Market.

Hm. Having trouble googling it. Looks like I mis-spelled it. Soya Kaas
but I'm wondering if it's not made any more. Bummer if it's not. :-(

I adore coconut! I want to try an *ice cream* recipe I found that uses
coconut milk intead of dairy, it sounds to DIE for. I try to take it easy
on the coconut, though, it's SO high fat. Although. Once I start the
Anabolic Diet, it's fair game!

Lynne A

I'd rather use coconut milk than soy milk, but that's a personal
preference. ;-)
--
Peace, Om

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"Omelet" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Dee Dee" wrote:

"Now" brand "Full spectrum Minerals". They are not expensive either.

Om, I had been taking calcium supplements, did a lot of homework on them.
Dee Dee

Calcium supplements are worthless...

After having some serious Calcium deficiency problems several years ago
(early 30's), I consulted with an MD that specialized in sports
nutrition. I was lifting heavy weights at the time and experiencing
Quadricep cramps from time to time. (Talk about serious pain!!!)

I'd tried several different calcium formulas.

Cohen told me that my problem is that I was taking CALCIUM. He said that
it needs to be balanced. Calcium/magnesium/phosphorous have to be in a
set ratio to be absorbed and used properly.

I should have learned that when I was rehabbing baby birds. Their
mineral BALANCE is critical due to their ungodly metabolic rate. Many
baby birds go from hatching to flight in under 4 weeks!

He said to take a balanced mineral supplement that included all three
and it was even better if it was a mixed mineral supplement. That is why
I recommended that one in my post.

I've not had a leg cramp one since I started using it, even with a high
protein diet that tends to cause an increase in renal calcium loss.

Dr. Cohen was right.

:-)

It's one of the reasons dairy calcium works. It's not JUST calcium. If
you wish to avoid the drawbacks of a high dairy diet (for me it's milk
sugar/Lactose), take a balanced mineral supplement. "Now" and "Twinlabs"
both make a good one.

I use "Now" and my serum Calcium/Phosphorous levels are always in normal
range. I still have to supplement additional Magnesium, but that is a
separate problem, probably not one you have to worry about.
--
Peace, Om

Yes, I agree with everything you said above. When I said calcium
supplements, I meant a well-balanced group of minerals.

There was a bunch of citations years ago -- perhaps it's still valid, that
B-vitamins if not taken in a correct balance will create a deficit in
another particular B-vitamin. I have not read this in the last decade,
nor can I find any mention of it, but it was in literature.


I'm not saying that is true with calcium/phosphorous/etc.mineral tabs, that
if they are not completely balanced that they will create an imbalance as I
stated above.

But even at that, if one is eating at all, I would think that one would
create an imbalance by the mere fact that one perhaps eats something with
some of those three that you mentioned -- or for that matter, any other
touted 'balanced' supplement.

Even though I've taken 'balanced' tabs, I've always thought this strange.
One other reason that made me think about it is that I've for the past 10
years I've purchased every tablet separately in order to balance out my
intake. This has not been an easy task; and believe me if I were in another
state of mind; i.e., not post cancer, I wouldn't have even considered it.
But the vitamin and food world has been learning experience for me.

But I don't think one is really capable of determining the other food intake
that may contribute to an imbalance, in spite of taking a balanced formula.

OB: FOOD: Just finished a salad garden grown basil, tomatoes with plenty of
juice, 100% grain bread soaked in the tomato juice, parm regg (not too much
of,) some great Italian olives. Soooo happy.
Dee Dee

"LynneA" wrote in message
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You say that yogurt is a problem for you? Have you tried several brands?
Milk allergies are supposed not so prominent with eating yogurt. There
is a reason for that as written about here on rfc some months ago. Very
interesting.

DeeDee

Exactly so, Dee! Rash and cystic acne and a horrible odour to my
breathYUK

I've heard the same about yogurt, but I want to wait a bit, until all my
symptoms have settled down, and then try it again. This is all very new
to me. I also will be trying goat cheese at some point since I have been
told that I may/may not be able to tolerate it. Here's hopin'!

Lynne A

Umm - I love goat cheese - Hope you'll be able to do it.
Dee Dee

On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:34:07 -0400, "Dee Dee"
wrote:

But cheese and bread, I could live on it -- you can guess what my favorite
book was when I was a kid. HEIDI.

Heidi is such a lovely book and one of my favorites. It made me want
to drink goats milk and eat goat cheese and spend all day hiking the
mountains with the goat herder and sleep on a bed of straw at night. I
remember the taste of goats milk was described as tasting like milk
with sugar and cinnamon added. I wish I liked goat cheese. I try
it again every so often to see if my tastes have changed, just for
Heidi's sake.

Tara

wrote:
I am an 57 year old man. Recently I was told that men should not
drink soy milk because there is some sort of estrogen or something
like that in it which will cause men to grow breasts. I'm lactose
intolerant and cant drink regular cow milk. I missed the milk, and my
doctor said I was extremely low on calcium too, so I tried soy milk
and really liked it quite a lot. I had expected a bland tasteless
drink but was surprised how good the soy milk was. I have had quite a
few gallons of it over the last few years and never had any problems.
However now that I heard this thing about breasts I tend to wonder if
this could be true. Actually I thought it was a joke until I read the
container and it says "phytoesrogens help releive menopausal
symptoms". That does sound like there may be some truth to this. I
have not had any since I read that. What's the truth here?

The next time I'm in his office, I'll try to remember to ask my doctor,
James Milo "Big Titties" Sorensen.


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roy__ wrote:
I am an 57 year old man. Recently I was told that men should not
drink soy milk because there is some sort of estrogen or something
like that in it which will cause men to grow breasts. I'm lactose
intolerant and cant drink regular cow milk.

Hey, if you drink soy milk and grow breasts your cow milk intolerance
problem is over... you can just latch on whenever, guilt free.

ShelDon

"Omelet" wrote in message
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In article ,
"LynneA" wrote:

I'll have to look for that, I haven't heard of it up till now. I will be
ordering some Sheeze once the weather cools off enough. It's supposed to
actually melt-we'll seeG

Soy Kaas was one of the few I found that actually did melt.
I found it at Whole Foods and Central Market.

Hm. Having trouble googling it. Looks like I mis-spelled it. Soya Kaas
but I'm wondering if it's not made any more. Bummer if it's not. :-(

I adore coconut! I want to try an *ice cream* recipe I found that uses
coconut milk intead of dairy, it sounds to DIE for. I try to take it
easy
on the coconut, though, it's SO high fat. Although. Once I start the
Anabolic Diet, it's fair game!

Lynne A

I'd rather use coconut milk than soy milk, but that's a personal
preference. ;-)
--
Peace, Om

Well, if not, what can ya do? Thanks for looking, though, I do appreciate
it. What I don't get is all the *vegetarian* cheeses that use casein or
whey. Who is eating that? Vegans won't touch it, nor will those with dairy
allergies, and vegetarians can eat GOOD cheese. Whatever!LOL

I use everything but dairy, in moderation. So one day it might be soy milk,
another time rice or almond, or coconut. Really depends on what it is, too.
Almond milk is excellent in anything sweet, plain rice or soy is good for
savories, and coconut is just damned good! And the cream on the top reminds
me of my beloved cream on the top yogurt-scrape it off with a spoon and make
yourself sick eating such richnessG

Lynne A

"Dee Dee" wrote in message
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Umm - I love goat cheese - Hope you'll be able to do it.
Dee Dee



Me too, I have always LOVED cheese. A really sharp Irish cheddar being the
favorite. I've heard goat cheese is tangy, so I should like it as long as
it likes me.

Lynne A

wrote in message
...
I am an 57 year old man. Recently I was told that men should not
drink soy milk because there is some sort of estrogen or something
like that in it which will cause men to grow breasts. I'm lactose
intolerant and cant drink regular cow milk. I missed the milk, and my
doctor said I was extremely low on calcium too, so I tried soy milk
and really liked it quite a lot. I had expected a bland tasteless
drink but was surprised how good the soy milk was. I have had quite a
few gallons of it over the last few years and never had any problems.
However now that I heard this thing about breasts I tend to wonder if
this could be true. Actually I thought it was a joke until I read the
container and it says "phytoesrogens help releive menopausal
symptoms". That does sound like there may be some truth to this. I
have not had any since I read that. What's the truth here?

I personally think soy is bad for a lot of reasons. For one thing, most of
it is GMO. It can also exacerbate thyroid problems. I used to consume
quite a lot of it in the form of Tiger's Milk bars, roasted soynuts, canned
soybeans, Edamame and Bocca burgers. Then there's the soybean oil that's in
everything! I totally quit the soy except for some things that have soy
lecithin (also have an egg allergy and most lecithin comes from one or the
other) and my thyroid problem went away. Daughter is also allergic to soy
as well as dairy.

Daughter uses rice milk. She likes it. For baking we use Vance's Dari
Replacer. I buy it online. There's also almond milk or hazelnut milk.

I can't say for sure one way or the other if soy would make men grow
breasts. But I've seen evidence that it could and I've got enough other
stuff against it that I just wouldn't use it.

"LynneA" wrote in message
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"Dee Dee" wrote in message
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Umm - I love goat cheese - Hope you'll be able to do it.
Dee Dee



Me too, I have always LOVED cheese. A really sharp Irish cheddar being
the favorite. I've heard goat cheese is tangy, so I should like it as
long as it likes me.

Lynne A

Yes, to me, the tangy-ness is very similar to a thick strained yogurt, but
the cheese is smoother.
Dee Dee

"Omelet" wrote in message
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Why don't you just take a balanced mineral supplement that contains
Calcium? There are several on the market. I personally use "Now" brand
full spectrum minerals. Take them with meals.

I never drink any milk any more and only eat a small amount of dairy
products (cheese, yogurt and cottage cheese) when I am in the mood for
them.

If you do some googling, you will find the opinions on the effects of
phytoestrogens in Soy to be a hotly debated topic.

I think the jury is still out on that one.

Discover http://www.google.com
It is your friend. ;-)

Leafy greens are also a good source of calcium. I find that Swiss Chard cut
into slivers can be added to pretty much anything and my family will eat it.
I put it in tonight's chicken and vegetable soup. It's also good in salads.

"Dee Dee" wrote in message
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Cannot you make yourself almond milk.. I'm not sure -- perhaps too gritty?

You can. They sell nut milk bags. I frequent a raw food forum and from
what I have read there it sounds easy to make. Don't know the particulars
though since I am allergic to almonds.

"Julie Bove" wrote in message
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"Omelet" wrote in message
news
Why don't you just take a balanced mineral supplement that contains
Calcium? There are several on the market. I personally use "Now" brand
full spectrum minerals. Take them with meals.

I never drink any milk any more and only eat a small amount of dairy
products (cheese, yogurt and cottage cheese) when I am in the mood for
them.

If you do some googling, you will find the opinions on the effects of
phytoestrogens in Soy to be a hotly debated topic.

I think the jury is still out on that one.

Discover http://www.google.com
It is your friend. ;-)

Leafy greens are also a good source of calcium. I find that Swiss Chard
cut into slivers can be added to pretty much anything and my family will
eat it. I put it in tonight's chicken and vegetable soup. It's also good
in salads.


I do this with sorrel - it goes into lots of my cooked dishes. I even have
it on BLT instead of lettuce.
Dee Dee