"Omelet" wrote in message
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It's a beverage in my coffeeG I drink a LOT of iced coffee in the
summer.
My darling daughter is now ovo-lacto, so milk is pretty prominent in her
diet. Which is ok, I guess, since she can drink a gallon a day by
herselfshudder

And I'm jealous of you. I really miss cream, butter, and cheese! And
yogurt. Man, do I miss yogurt.

Lynne A


There is less lactose in cream and butter than there is in Milk.

Why are you avoiding yogurt if you drink milk in your iced coffee?
Or am I mis-understanding something here?
--
Peace, Om

Soy, rice, or almond milk in my coffee. I'm not intolerant, I'm allergic.
And none too happy about it, may I add?LOL But I feel a lot better since I
ditched all dairy, so I guess I'll quit whining now. ;)

Lynne A

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"Dee Dee" wrote in message
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Cannot you make yourself almond milk.. I'm not sure -- perhaps too
gritty?
Dee Dee

No, you absolutely can, you filter it through cheesecloth. But almonds
are
bloody expensive here too, and then there's the time involved in making
it.
So I don't bother. If I could get almonds in bulk for a good price I
would,
though.

Lynne A


http://www.nextag.com/bulk-almonds/search-html

;-)
--
Peace, Om

Thanks, Om! I'll have to look at the recipes I've seen for making homemade
and see if I can figure out how it compares pricewise. Shipping might be
the deal-breaker, but I won't know till I do the math.

Lynne A

"notbob" wrote in message
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On 2007-08-27, LynneA wrote:

Cause cereal with water is GROSS. ;^)

True dat! OJ or beer is even worse. Fortunately, I finally broke my
near life-long addiction to cold cereal. Cap'n Crunch free for 3 yrs.
Woo-hoo!

Mashed potatoes, cakes and icings on rare occasions, that sort
of thing. For me, anyway.

Thank goodness they still sell those little cartons of milk. Kinda
pricey, but better than dumping .92 gals of sour milk.

nb

Nothing personal, notbob, but Cap'n Crunch? Ewwww. Congrats on kicking the
habit, though.G I was thinking more along the lines of Kashi, myself. Or
hot cereal. Cap'n Crunch just tastes like chemicals to me.

Lynne A

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"LynneA" wrote:

"Omelet" wrote in message
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In article ,
"LynneA" wrote:

It's a beverage in my coffeeG I drink a LOT of iced coffee in the
summer.
My darling daughter is now ovo-lacto, so milk is pretty prominent in her
diet. Which is ok, I guess, since she can drink a gallon a day by
herselfshudder

And I'm jealous of you. I really miss cream, butter, and cheese! And
yogurt. Man, do I miss yogurt.

Lynne A


There is less lactose in cream and butter than there is in Milk.

Why are you avoiding yogurt if you drink milk in your iced coffee?
Or am I mis-understanding something here?
--
Peace, Om

Soy, rice, or almond milk in my coffee. I'm not intolerant, I'm allergic.
And none too happy about it, may I add?LOL But I feel a lot better since I
ditched all dairy, so I guess I'll quit whining now. ;)

Lynne A


Oog, ok, I can empathize for sure.

You miss cheese? Try Soy Kaas brand.

When I was avoiding dairy fats for awhile, I found that one to be most
satisfying.

For "cream", take a look at coconut products instead of soy. Yum!
--
Peace, Om

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"Dee Dee" wrote in message
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Cannot you make yourself almond milk.. I'm not sure -- perhaps too
gritty?
Dee Dee

No, you absolutely can, you filter it through cheesecloth. But almonds
are
bloody expensive here too, and then there's the time involved in making
it.
So I don't bother. If I could get almonds in bulk for a good price I
would,
though.

Lynne A


http://www.nextag.com/bulk-almonds/search-html

;-)
--
Peace, Om

Thanks, Om! I'll have to look at the recipes I've seen for making homemade
and see if I can figure out how it compares pricewise. Shipping might be
the deal-breaker, but I won't know till I do the math.

Lynne A


I understand...

Have you looked at coconuts yet?
--
Peace, Om

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Omelet wrote:
Surprisingly, some green veggies have a decent amount of calcium. Not as
high as dairy but they are also high in fiber and other nutrients:

The problem with calcium is twofold, in many forms the body can't
absorb it (typically in tablet form and in some leafy vegetables), and
without adequate Vitamin D the body can't use calcium. The calcium in
dairy is best, especially when it's Vitamin D fortified. With many of
the calcium fortified foods the form of calcium can now be absorbed
and they now add Vitamin D, and some tablets are now using calcium in
a form that can be absorbed and including Vitamin D as well so the
body can use the calcium. The OTC vitamin and herb business is for
the most part a giant scam... the drug stores make a fortune pushing
that crap, is why they give it so much display space and advertise it
so heavily in their circulars. The next time you plan to buy one of
the dose-a-day vitamins for you or your kids remember that you will
literally be wiser to spend that ten bucks on dinner for some poor
homeless person instead... never give homeless people cash, it's
quickly converted to booze and/or drugs. Those multi vitamins do no
good whatsoever and can do harm. And you'd be amazed at how many
double and triple the dose, thinking if one is good, three is superb.
And it's typically those who can least afford the snake oil who buy
the most. Moroons.

Btw, the human body doesn't need lots of calcium, it stores it very
well... and if there is some medical reason why it's not being stored
then you need to see a medical doctor, not a snake oil pushing
charlatan... ingesting excess calcium will just cause constipation,
not that the moroons ain't already full of it.

On Aug 27, 7:55 am, "Robert L Bass" wrote:
Recently I was told that men should not drink
soy milk because there is some sort of estrogen
or something like that in it which will cause men
to grow breasts...

Roy,

There's nothing to worry about. I've been drinking soy milk
for over 10 years. My bra size has not increased at all. :^)

Robert
Keep trying

On Aug 27, 3:48 am, wrote:
I am an 57 year old man. Recently I was told that men should not
drink soy milk because there is some sort of estrogen or something
like that in it which will cause men to grow breasts. I'm lactose
intolerant and cant drink regular cow milk. I missed the milk, and my
doctor said I was extremely low on calcium too, so I tried soy milk
and really liked it quite a lot. I had expected a bland tasteless
drink but was surprised how good the soy milk was. I have had quite a
few gallons of it over the last few years and never had any problems.
However now that I heard this thing about breasts I tend to wonder if
this could be true. Actually I thought it was a joke until I read the
container and it says "phytoesrogens help releive menopausal
symptoms". That does sound like there may be some truth to this. I
have not had any since I read that. What's the truth here?

Roy

There are how many male chinese wearing D cups?
John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

"LynneA" wrote in message
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"Dee Dee" wrote in message
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"LynneA" wrote in message
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Or almond milk, my personal fav. It's a little expensive, but really
good.

Lynne A

Cannot you make yourself almond milk.. I'm not sure -- perhaps too
gritty?
Dee Dee

No, you absolutely can, you filter it through cheesecloth. But almonds
are bloody expensive here too, and then there's the time involved in
making it. So I don't bother. If I could get almonds in bulk for a good
price I would, though.

Lynne A

I just read an article yesterday about almonds. From what I understand they
will be pasteurized from now on -- not made into milk and then pasteurized,
but the whole almond. With the guidelines now in place, or almost-in-place
as to GMO and irradiation, I wondered if this pasteurized is a euphamism in
this case for irradiated, which granted, some say is a good thing ;-))

But I believe there had been some problems with almonds in the last few
years. I cannot recite it now, maybe someone else can who is interested in
this sort of inquiry. But as a result I have cut back on my almond intake,
and upped my intake of fish oil, being as careful as I can to buy fish oil
from Norway and hoping they don't buy it from other suspect countries.

Dee Dee

"Omelet" wrote in message
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"Dee Dee" wrote:

"notbob" wrote in message
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On 2007-08-27, LynneA wrote:

Cause cereal with water is GROSS. ;^)

True dat! OJ or beer is even worse. Fortunately, I finally broke my
near life-long addiction to cold cereal. Cap'n Crunch free for 3 yrs.
Woo-hoo!

Mashed potatoes, cakes and icings on rare occasions, that sort
of thing. For me, anyway.

Thank goodness they still sell those little cartons of milk. Kinda
pricey, but better than dumping .92 gals of sour milk.

nb

I've never cared for milk, but since we are now buying a gallon a week, I
have compiled my own list for using it up. All things I really like and
are
extremely hard on your arteries: bechamel, (paneer) cheese, cream of
potato/leek/sorrel, etc. soup, ice cream, rice puddings, ganache,
macaroni
& cheese, hot cocoa, butter....

My blood sugar is OK, but my cholesterol is high so I have cut down on
using
the cream -

All this I hope controls my osteo-penia (not osteo-porosis).

Dee Dee

Geez Dee Dee! If you need calcium, there is nothing wrong with pills!
Just be sure to take a balanced supplement, not calcium tabs. They work
better. The ones I take work great according to my blood levels.

"Now" brand "Full spectrum Minerals". They are not expensive either.
--
Peace, Om

Om, I had been taking calcium supplements, did a lot of homework on them.
The last dexascan in 2006 my bone density had risen up to the point of
almost normal, but still diagnosed as osteopenia, (a warning!) and in the
span of 2 years before it has gone up 6%. That's pretty good for a person
my age. But in January I will have another Dexascan to see where I am. The
doctor suggested I cut back cheese and ice cream and whole milk because of
cholesterol, and on that I have done pretty good, but not totally on my good
behavior.

But cheese and bread, I could live on it -- you can guess what my favorite
book was when I was a kid. HEIDI.
Dee Dee

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"Omelet" wrote in message
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In article ,
"LynneA" wrote:

It's a beverage in my coffeeG I drink a LOT of iced coffee in the
summer.
My darling daughter is now ovo-lacto, so milk is pretty prominent in her
diet. Which is ok, I guess, since she can drink a gallon a day by
herselfshudder

And I'm jealous of you. I really miss cream, butter, and cheese! And
yogurt. Man, do I miss yogurt.

Lynne A


There is less lactose in cream and butter than there is in Milk.

Why are you avoiding yogurt if you drink milk in your iced coffee?
Or am I mis-understanding something here?
--
Peace, Om

Soy, rice, or almond milk in my coffee. I'm not intolerant, I'm allergic.
And none too happy about it, may I add?LOL But I feel a lot better since
I ditched all dairy, so I guess I'll quit whining now. ;)

Lynne A


Yes, there are other problems than gassing and bloating. I've seen young
women with red spots all over their arms - god knows where else -- that are
milk allergies.

You say that yogurt is a problem for you? Have you tried several brands?
Milk allergies are supposed not so prominent with eating yogurt. There is a
reason for that as written about here on rfc some months ago. Very
interesting.

DeeDee

"KIB" wrote in message
...
High calcium levels can be caused by Sarcoidosis also, which I have and
not necessarily diet. My doctors monitor my calcium levels along with
other tests to see how active it is. If your doctor is running blood
tests you could always ask for an ACE (Angiotensin Converting Enzyme).
ACE is primarily ordered to help diagnose and monitor sarcoidosis.

Very interesting, this sarcoidosis. Regarding high calcium levels, I spoke
with my doctor about this telling her that a 40-some year old chest exray
was shown to have granules indicating sarcoidosis. She said, well you don't
have symptoms, so you don't have it. I was thankful in that I did not want
a chest exray. It seems with this disease, there are a lot of other
diseases that it mimics.

I believe it is one of the diseases that is prevalent in the group of people
called Melungeons, if you have not heard of this.
Hope you are getting along fine.
Dee Dee

"Omelet" wrote in message
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"LynneA" wrote:


Soy, rice, or almond milk in my coffee. I'm not intolerant, I'm
allergic.
And none too happy about it, may I add?LOL But I feel a lot better since
I
ditched all dairy, so I guess I'll quit whining now. ;)

Lynne A


Oog, ok, I can empathize for sure.

You miss cheese? Try Soy Kaas brand.

When I was avoiding dairy fats for awhile, I found that one to be most
satisfying.

For "cream", take a look at coconut products instead of soy. Yum!
--
Peace, Om

I'll have to look for that, I haven't heard of it up till now. I will be
ordering some Sheeze once the weather cools off enough. It's supposed to
actually melt-we'll seeG

I adore coconut! I want to try an *ice cream* recipe I found that uses
coconut milk intead of dairy, it sounds to DIE for. I try to take it easy
on the coconut, though, it's SO high fat. Although. Once I start the
Anabolic Diet, it's fair game!

Lynne A

"Dee Dee" wrote in message
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"LynneA" wrote in message
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Soy, rice, or almond milk in my coffee. I'm not intolerant, I'm
allergic. And none too happy about it, may I add?LOL But I feel a lot
better since I ditched all dairy, so I guess I'll quit whining now. ;)

Lynne A


Yes, there are other problems than gassing and bloating. I've seen young
women with red spots all over their arms - god knows where else -- that
are milk allergies.

You say that yogurt is a problem for you? Have you tried several brands?
Milk allergies are supposed not so prominent with eating yogurt. There is
a reason for that as written about here on rfc some months ago. Very
interesting.

DeeDee

Exactly so, Dee! Rash and cystic acne and a horrible odour to my
breathYUK

I've heard the same about yogurt, but I want to wait a bit, until all my
symptoms have settled down, and then try it again. This is all very new to
me. I also will be trying goat cheese at some point since I have been told
that I may/may not be able to tolerate it. Here's hopin'!

Lynne A

"Omelet" wrote in message
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"LynneA" wrote:

http://www.nextag.com/bulk-almonds/search-html

;-)
--
Peace, Om

Thanks, Om! I'll have to look at the recipes I've seen for making
homemade
and see if I can figure out how it compares pricewise. Shipping might be
the deal-breaker, but I won't know till I do the math.

Lynne A


I understand...

Have you looked at coconuts yet?
--
Peace, Om

I've found a couple of sources for coconut powder, yep. As soon as $$$
loosens up I will invest, right now I just buy it by the can as needed.

Lynne A