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zxcvbob wrote:

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Who has time or wants to wash/
scrub a bag of green potatoes you get from the grocery store?



Because you are so busy doing what?


Are you kidding? Five kids under the age of six?

If they are her biological kids (not adopted), then she's lying about having
that many kids.

It is possible.
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
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In article ,
zxcvbob wrote:

wrote:
Who has time or wants to wash/
scrub a bag of green potatoes you get from the grocery store?


Because you are so busy doing what?

Are you kidding? Five kids under the age of six?

If they are her biological kids (not adopted), then she's lying about having
that many kids.




Very easy to accomplish if one or two sets of twins. Well, easy except
for finding the energy to have sex with a house full of toddlers.

Bob

Omelet wrote:

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Peter A wrote:

This is the main point - too many people consider any large, whole,
cooked potato to be "baked" when a microwaved potato is in fact steamed.

Even so, when I have been in a hurry for a real baked potato, I have
found that a few minutes in the microwave followed by finishing in the
oven will cut your cooking time in half and give a result that is hard
to tell from the real thing.

I'm wondering what kind of results I'm going to get from a solar oven
when I finally get around to building one.
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Good solar ovens will produce results directly comparable to a
conventional oven as they produce an environment of dry external
non-radient heat. Be aware however, that a good many of the designs
you'll find are not good solar ovens and have undersized collector area
relative to the cooking area and won't generate enough heat for normal
oven type cooking. The small box ovens with reflector "petals" aren't
really adequate for cooking, really only for heating to consumption
temperature, say 160 degrees.

An example of a good solar oven would be a steel oven box, insulated on
5 sides and not the bottom, with a diffuser "pizza stone" type device
inside on the bottom, located at the focal point of a good sized
parabolic collector. Figure a good 6' dia collector for a cubic foot
sized oven. This setup will put sufficiently concentrated energy on the
bottom of the box to heat the oven interior to "normal" oven
temperatures like 350 degrees. With this design you can also interchange
the oven box with a pot holder so you can boil or simmer food. You do
have to periodically re-aim the collector, which is also how you
regulate the temp by aiming a little off to reduce the heat.

Pete C. wrote:

You can certainly cook a potato in the microwave and get the same result
as famous industrial chain food restaurants but it isn't a baked potato.

This is the main point - too many people consider any large, whole,
cooked potato to be "baked" when a microwaved potato is in fact steamed.

A microwaved potato is no more steamed than a baked one. In both cases
the heat introduced produces some internal steam.

I think there is a difference. If you bake a potato by simply putting it
on the oven rack the skin will develop crispness and there will be some
browning and the skin will have a slightly nutty flavor. If you prepare
a restaurant style potato as found in "famous chain places" you would
wrap it in AL foil which retains the moisture and steams the potato.
There is no browning or change of skin texture. If you microwave a
potato you get the same result as wrapping in foil likely because the
quick cooking doesn't liberate the moisture and lack of infrared for
crisping.


Of course this assumes that you have enough energy and time left after
washing the potatoes...




Even so, when I have been in a hurry for a real baked potato, I have
found that a few minutes in the microwave followed by finishing in the
oven will cut your cooking time in half and give a result that is hard
to tell from the real thing.

That technique certainly works, indeed very often my use of the
microwave it to trim cooking time of an ingredient or two, like nuking
diced green peppers for a couple minutes to sync them with the rest of
the dish they are going in.

George wrote:

Pete C. wrote:

You can certainly cook a potato in the microwave and get the same result
as famous industrial chain food restaurants but it isn't a baked potato.

This is the main point - too many people consider any large, whole,
cooked potato to be "baked" when a microwaved potato is in fact steamed.

A microwaved potato is no more steamed than a baked one. In both cases
the heat introduced produces some internal steam.

I think there is a difference. If you bake a potato by simply putting it
on the oven rack the skin will develop crispness and there will be some
browning and the skin will have a slightly nutty flavor. If you prepare
a restaurant style potato as found in "famous chain places" you would
wrap it in AL foil which retains the moisture and steams the potato.
There is no browning or change of skin texture. If you microwave a
potato you get the same result as wrapping in foil likely because the
quick cooking doesn't liberate the moisture and lack of infrared for
crisping.

I didn't claim there was no difference between a baked and microwaved
potato. I indicated that both methods generate some internal steam in
the potato. Neither is actually "steamed".


Of course this assumes that you have enough energy and time left after
washing the potatoes...

Yea, that extraordinarily difficult step applies in both cases.

"Sheldon" wrote in message
oups.com...
Omelet wrote:
andreahunte wrote:
For those of you who are interested, there is a place out there where
you can buy frozen, fully baked potatoes that microwave in 3-4 minutes
and taste like fresh, oven baked potatoes.

I doubt that they will taste like just baked... and you can cook a
potato from raw in a microwave oven in 3-4 minutes. And a person can
bake a bunch of spuds and refrigerate for later.. in fact whenever I
bake potatoes I bake the entire five pound bag, they can easily be
reheated later but I like them cold too, I like to dice them into a
salad. Cold baked potatoes make a very satisfying and healthful snack
too, and I like them plain, cold it's like eating a piece of fruit.

If you are nuking, you can nuke/bake a fresh potato too. It takes a bit
longer, but not significantly so and it'll save you a LOT of money!

I used to wrap a spud in waxed paper to nuke but graduated to placing
them inside of a covered corningware baking dish with a little water.

But that's steamed. You cannot bake anything in a microwave oven.

I cook potatoes often in a microwave, but I'd never confuse them with
baked... I wouldn't confuse them with boiled either, boiled potatoes
are far better because they're more evenly cooked. I'll nuke a couple
of spuds (becaue it's quick and no pot to clean) but have never yet
had one that cooked evenly or any two that cooked to the same degree
of doneness.

I think you need to take a hint and snack on plain cold potatoes
instead of all that salty crap you pig out on. Potaotes are very low
calorie and high in nutrition... of course if you're gonna blend
potatoes with your ham, olives, anchovie, and tons of mayo then you're
just ****ing yourself. Well, if you can get your tits to swell
instead of your fingers... heheheh

I do potatoes in the microwave on occasion. Daughter is fond of those
plastic wrapped ones that you just nuke. I think they leave something to be
desired.

Mainly when I make baked potatoes, I do them ahead of time, cool and stuff
them using plain rice milk, olive oil, nutritional yeast and green onions,
then a sprinkling of Hungarian Sweet Paprika. Works for me!

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On Aug 25, 10:43 am, "Pete C." wrote:
wrote:

For those of you who are interested, there is a place out there where
you can buy frozen, fully baked potatoes that microwave in 3-4 minutes
and taste like fresh, oven baked potatoes. Check it out at
www.worldwidefoodsinc.com. Also find free recipes for baked
potatoes. These are very convenient. I have 5 kids, age 6 and under
and I use them at home often as they save me a lot of time in the
kitchen.

What a pathetic shill / spam post. Nuking a fresh, raw potato take a
couple minutes longer and is more convenient and of course a lot
cheaper.

Nothing shill about telling you guys about a good potato. This company
supplies national restaurant chains and now their potato is online.
You are wrong about it being more convenient to use a fresh potato.
Cheaper maybe but not more convenient. Who has time or wants to wash/
scrub a bag of green potatoes you get from the grocery store?

I don't buy the green ones and it doesn't take long to wash them. But you
can buy pre-washed ones these days. Wrapped in plastic and ready to nuke.

"Pete C." wrote in message
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wrote:

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Anyone who has time to eat said potato has the 30 seconds it takes to
clean said potato before placing in the microwave. I suppose you also go
to those stores that assemble a ready to "cook" meal kit for you while
stroking your ego telling you that your life is too busy and your time
is too valuable to spend the 15 minutes preparing the ingredients, the
very same 15 minutes you spend at that store.

Shill.

I just don't understand those places. There is one near me and I took a
peek in there after all these people I know were raving about what a good
thing it was. Wouldn't work for me since we have food allergies and there
were cross contamination issues everywhere. Plus most of the menus they
have wouldn't go over well with us either.

But I just couldn't see it. No appeal whatever to me. Why would I want to
drive to a place to assemble a meal then bring it home and freeze it? Not
for me.

My mom tried to tell me if I didn't have the food allergies and I was
working, I would love it. Well, no I would not. I can't see myself ever
liking that. Oddly, I've never seen anyone in there making a meal. Never.

"zxcvbob" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Dan Abel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
zxcvbob wrote:

wrote:
Who has time or wants to wash/
scrub a bag of green potatoes you get from the grocery store?


Because you are so busy doing what?

Are you kidding? Five kids under the age of six?

If they are her biological kids (not adopted), then she's lying about
having that many kids.


Very easy to accomplish if one or two sets of twins. Well, easy except
for finding the energy to have sex with a house full of toddlers.

Bob

That, and thinking you can divide your attention between that many kids. Or,
maybe she's one of those parents who gives no attention to the kids, so any
number will do.

"Pete C." wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Dan Abel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
zxcvbob wrote:

wrote:
Who has time or wants to wash/
scrub a bag of green potatoes you get from the grocery store?



Because you are so busy doing what?


Are you kidding? Five kids under the age of six?

If they are her biological kids (not adopted), then she's lying about
having
that many kids.

With all the IVF (and other technique) induced multiple births these
days, I don't think you have any grounds for that comment.


Forget biology & medicine, and think about sanity (or lack of it).

In article ,
"Pete C." wrote:

Good solar ovens will produce results directly comparable to a
conventional oven as they produce an environment of dry external
non-radient heat. Be aware however, that a good many of the designs
you'll find are not good solar ovens and have undersized collector area
relative to the cooking area and won't generate enough heat for normal
oven type cooking. The small box ovens with reflector "petals" aren't
really adequate for cooking, really only for heating to consumption
temperature, say 160 degrees.

An example of a good solar oven would be a steel oven box, insulated on
5 sides and not the bottom, with a diffuser "pizza stone" type device
inside on the bottom, located at the focal point of a good sized
parabolic collector. Figure a good 6' dia collector for a cubic foot
sized oven. This setup will put sufficiently concentrated energy on the
bottom of the box to heat the oven interior to "normal" oven
temperatures like 350 degrees. With this design you can also interchange
the oven box with a pot holder so you can boil or simmer food. You do
have to periodically re-aim the collector, which is also how you
regulate the temp by aiming a little off to reduce the heat.

When I was in Junior high, we made some solar ovens. Some of them got up
to 300 degrees or more and they used them to bake bread. They were
fairly simple but the main thing that seemed to make the difference is
that they used Mirror tiles, epoxied to the sides of a metal box with
the heavy glass front.

For a solar stove, I've managed to get (thru freecycle) an old satellite
antennae. One of those little ones.

I plan to use mirror tile on it (I'm sure I can get free broken mirror
at the local glass shop) and then locate the focal point on it to locate
the "burner" for pan or pot cooking.

I'm still playing with the concept. :-)
I understand that I'll have to "track" the sun with it.
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Julie Bove wrote:

"Pete C." wrote in message
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wrote:

snip

Anyone who has time to eat said potato has the 30 seconds it takes to
clean said potato before placing in the microwave. I suppose you also go
to those stores that assemble a ready to "cook" meal kit for you while
stroking your ego telling you that your life is too busy and your time
is too valuable to spend the 15 minutes preparing the ingredients, the
very same 15 minutes you spend at that store.

Shill.

I just don't understand those places. There is one near me and I took a
peek in there after all these people I know were raving about what a good
thing it was. Wouldn't work for me since we have food allergies and there
were cross contamination issues everywhere. Plus most of the menus they
have wouldn't go over well with us either.

But I just couldn't see it. No appeal whatever to me. Why would I want to
drive to a place to assemble a meal then bring it home and freeze it? Not
for me.

My mom tried to tell me if I didn't have the food allergies and I was
working, I would love it. Well, no I would not. I can't see myself ever
liking that. Oddly, I've never seen anyone in there making a meal. Never.

Like I said, that store concept like a lot of other similarly stupid
things all work on the principle of extracting money from the clueless
by stroking their egos. Instead of say, teaching the subject how to
cook, you instead tell them that they are too busy (read lazy) and their
time is too valuable (they're self absorbed and neglecting their kids)
for them to spend the huge amount of time (15 minutes) it takes to
prepare ingredients for cooking. It's simply a yuppified TV dinner at a
yuppified price.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Pete C." wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Dan Abel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
zxcvbob wrote:

wrote:
Who has time or wants to wash/
scrub a bag of green potatoes you get from the grocery store?



Because you are so busy doing what?


Are you kidding? Five kids under the age of six?

If they are her biological kids (not adopted), then she's lying about
having
that many kids.

With all the IVF (and other technique) induced multiple births these
days, I don't think you have any grounds for that comment.

Forget biology & medicine, and think about sanity (or lack of it).

Of course, anyone who wants to have more than two children should
automatically be tossed in the loony bin.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"zxcvbob" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Dan Abel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
zxcvbob wrote:

wrote:
Who has time or wants to wash/
scrub a bag of green potatoes you get from the grocery store?


Because you are so busy doing what?

Are you kidding? Five kids under the age of six?

If they are her biological kids (not adopted), then she's lying about
having that many kids.


Very easy to accomplish if one or two sets of twins. Well, easy except
for finding the energy to have sex with a house full of toddlers.

Bob

That, and thinking you can divide your attention between that many kids. Or,
maybe she's one of those parents who gives no attention to the kids, so any
number will do.

Simply a superficial collector. Her life is built around possessions as
a substitute for any character, children are simply another possession
to try to show off, just like the micro mansion and yuppmobile.

"Pete C." wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Pete C." wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Dan Abel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
zxcvbob wrote:

wrote:
Who has time or wants to wash/
scrub a bag of green potatoes you get from the grocery store?



Because you are so busy doing what?


Are you kidding? Five kids under the age of six?

If they are her biological kids (not adopted), then she's lying about
having
that many kids.

With all the IVF (and other technique) induced multiple births these
days, I don't think you have any grounds for that comment.

Forget biology & medicine, and think about sanity (or lack of it).

Of course, anyone who wants to have more than two children should
automatically be tossed in the loony bin.


It's a safe bet that if you asked most women if they wanted that many kids
in that length of time, the best situation would be that they'd say "no".
But, I think most would punch your lights out just for asking. :-)