On Aug 27, 7:08 am, Cindy Hamilton
wrote:
On Aug 27, 8:21 am, Bobo Bonobo® wrote:



On Aug 24, 9:03 am, "pavane" wrote:

"Bobo Bonobo®" wrote in message

roups.com...

Alton said, "There are no bad foods, only bad food habits." What
kind of ignorant bullshit is THAT?
source--
http://interviews.slashdot.org/inter....shtml?tid=129
--Bryan

Much less ignorant bullshit than your deliberately quoting Alton out
of context, which was:

"Alton: There are no bad foods, only bad food habits. I eat cream,
butter, and bacon; I just don't eat pounds of it at a time. I use
these things when they are needed in recipes and leave them
out when they're not needed. As for substitutes, I only agree with
them if they really don't change a person's response to a dish."

OK, buddy. Take a look at his "shortening" recipes:http://www.recipezaar.com/141557
Here's one that containg "butter flavored shortening." Ick:http://fooddownunder.com/cgi-bin/rec...//www.recipeza......

I could go on, but you get the point. Or maybe you don't.
So:
1. "Alton: There are no bad foods, only bad food habits..."
2. "...the NAS* has concluded there is no safe level of trans fat
consumption."

I suppose it's possible that someone might not give a crap what the NAS
says and eat trans fats anyhow. I don't go out of my way to avoid trans
fats, but I don't encounter them terribly frequently, either. I don't use
hydrogenated vegetable shortening in my own cooking, because I feel it
contributes nothing to the flavor of my cooking. I'd rather use
butter or lard.

If some restaurant slips me a little in my dessert or something, I
just can't be worried about it.

Not everyone is motivated chiefly by health concerns, and everybody
should follow their own inclinations on whether or not (and how often) to
consume trans fats.

He's a professional, so he's got a responsibility not to give patently
bad advice.
pavane accused me of taking his quote "out of context." I think my
reply shows otherwise.

Cindy Hamilton

--Bryan

On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 05:21:36 -0700, Bobo Bonobo®
wrote:


1. "Alton: There are no bad foods, only bad food habits..."

Alton obviously has never eaten a durian. It is the only food I have
ever seen gag Andrew Zimmern.

On Aug 27, 10:20 am, raymond wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 05:21:36 -0700, Bobo Bonobo®
wrote:

1. "Alton: There are no bad foods, only bad food habits..."

Alton obviously has never eaten a durian. It is the only food I have
ever seen gag Andrew Zimmern.

I much prefer Fear Factor where they have hot young women, rather than
guys my age, eating disgusting things.

--Bryan

"pavane" wrote in message
...

Alton obviously has never eaten a durian. It is the only food I have
ever seen gag Andrew Zimmern.


He didn't do too well with the stinky tofu or the
preserved meat in fat...but what a constitution
he must have!

pavane
I believe he could tolerate the first stinky tofu, but that last BLACK batch
was horrific. No matter what, I'd have to give it a passs.
Dee Dee

On Aug 27, 12:20 pm, raymond wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 05:21:36 -0700, Bobo Bonobo®
wrote:

1. "Alton: There are no bad foods, only bad food habits..."

Alton obviously has never eaten a durian. It is the only food I have
ever seen gag Andrew Zimmern.

Zimmern had a lot of trouble with yakitori in Japan, and Thai sausages
-- accessible stuff which most foodies would love. Zimmern couldn't
handle horchata (basically a liquid rice pudding -- totally pleasant
and unchallenging). So I wouldn't assume durian tastes bad based on
AZ's reaction to it. Anthony Bourdain loves durian -- though he
admits you shouldn't expect to be making out after ingesting it.

I think Zimmern's tastes are pretty standard American tastes. His
supposed "love" of "bizarre foods" is just a schtick. If you look at
what he gorges on, it's usually something any American would eat.
Conversely, watch closely when he's "eating" something weird; he will
often take a *tiny* portion of it, and sometimes I think he's not
trying the item at all.

On Aug 27, 6:11 pm, "Dee Dee" wrote:
"pavane" wrote in message

...

Alton obviously has never eaten a durian. It is the only food I have
ever seen gag Andrew Zimmern.

He didn't do too well with the stinky tofu or the
preserved meat in fat...but what a constitution
he must have!

pavane

I believe he could tolerate the first stinky tofu, but that last BLACK batch
was horrific. No matter what, I'd have to give it a passs.

Why would anyone want to eat something that their sense of smell found
objectionable?
Perhaps if you're being paid to do so.

Dee Dee

--Bryan

On Aug 27, 6:47 pm, Kyle wrote:
On Aug 27, 12:20 pm, raymond wrote:

On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 05:21:36 -0700, Bobo Bonobo®
wrote:

1. "Alton: There are no bad foods, only bad food habits..."

Alton obviously has never eaten a durian. It is the only food I have
ever seen gag Andrew Zimmern.

Zimmern had a lot of trouble with yakitori in Japan, and Thai sausages
-- accessible stuff which most foodies would love. Zimmern couldn't
handle horchata (basically a liquid rice pudding -- totally pleasant
and unchallenging). So I wouldn't assume durian tastes bad based on
AZ's reaction to it. Anthony Bourdain loves durian -- though he
admits you shouldn't expect to be making out after ingesting it.

I think Zimmern's tastes are pretty standard American tastes. His
supposed "love" of "bizarre foods" is just a schtick. If you look at
what he gorges on, it's usually something any American would eat.
Conversely, watch closely when he's "eating" something weird; he will
often take a *tiny* portion of it, and sometimes I think he's not
trying the item at all.

Of course it's a schtick. It's like watching the losers on Jerry
Springer, or the misfits on Cops. I used to (a few years ago) turn on
Fear Factor for the middle stunt, which often involved hotties eating
really gross stuff like cockroaches.
Perhaps it's a twisted sort of prurience that is de-sexualized, if
that makes any sense

--Bryan

On Aug 27, 9:04 pm, Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
On Aug 27, 6:47 pm, Kyle wrote:





On Aug 27, 12:20 pm, raymond wrote:

On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 05:21:36 -0700, Bobo Bonobo®
wrote:

1. "Alton: There are no bad foods, only bad food habits..."

Alton obviously has never eaten a durian. It is the only food I have
ever seen gag Andrew Zimmern.

Zimmern had a lot of trouble with yakitori in Japan, and Thai sausages
-- accessible stuff which most foodies would love. Zimmern couldn't
handle horchata (basically a liquid rice pudding -- totally pleasant
and unchallenging). So I wouldn't assume durian tastes bad based on
AZ's reaction to it. Anthony Bourdain loves durian -- though he
admits you shouldn't expect to be making out after ingesting it.

I think Zimmern's tastes are pretty standard American tastes. His
supposed "love" of "bizarre foods" is just a schtick. If you look at
what he gorges on, it's usually something any American would eat.
Conversely, watch closely when he's "eating" something weird; he will
often take a *tiny* portion of it, and sometimes I think he's not
trying the item at all.

Of course it's a schtick. It's like watching the losers on Jerry
Springer, or the misfits on Cops. I used to (a few years ago) turn on
Fear Factor for the middle stunt, which often involved hotties eating
really gross stuff like cockroaches.
Perhaps it's a twisted sort of prurience that is de-sexualized, if
that makes any sense

Well, I don't dislike Zimmern or consider him pathetic and repugnant
like many of the personalities one encounters on the shows you
mention. I just think his palate is a lot less brave than he lets
on.

AZ's Gulf Coast show is on right now. He's stuffing himself with
turducken (chicken, duck, and turkey wrapped up and cooked together)
and pork sausage. Bizarre foods?

On Aug 27, 7:23 pm, Kyle wrote:
On Aug 27, 9:04 pm, Bobo Bonobo® wrote:



On Aug 27, 6:47 pm, Kyle wrote:

On Aug 27, 12:20 pm, raymond wrote:

On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 05:21:36 -0700, Bobo Bonobo®
wrote:

1. "Alton: There are no bad foods, only bad food habits..."

Alton obviously has never eaten a durian. It is the only food I have
ever seen gag Andrew Zimmern.

Zimmern had a lot of trouble with yakitori in Japan, and Thai sausages
-- accessible stuff which most foodies would love. Zimmern couldn't
handle horchata (basically a liquid rice pudding -- totally pleasant
and unchallenging). So I wouldn't assume durian tastes bad based on
AZ's reaction to it. Anthony Bourdain loves durian -- though he
admits you shouldn't expect to be making out after ingesting it.

I think Zimmern's tastes are pretty standard American tastes. His
supposed "love" of "bizarre foods" is just a schtick. If you look at
what he gorges on, it's usually something any American would eat.
Conversely, watch closely when he's "eating" something weird; he will
often take a *tiny* portion of it, and sometimes I think he's not
trying the item at all.

Of course it's a schtick. It's like watching the losers on Jerry
Springer, or the misfits on Cops. I used to (a few years ago) turn on
Fear Factor for the middle stunt, which often involved hotties eating
really gross stuff like cockroaches.
Perhaps it's a twisted sort of prurience that is de-sexualized, if
that makes any sense

Well, I don't dislike Zimmern or consider him pathetic and repugnant
like many of the personalities one encounters on the shows you
mention. I just think his palate is a lot less brave than he lets
on.

AZ's Gulf Coast show is on right now. He's stuffing himself with
turducken (chicken, duck, and turkey wrapped up and cooked together)
and pork sausage. Bizarre foods?

They talk about turducken every year on NPR. Seems like a lot of
hassle to go through. I like my Thanksgiving very traditional, minus
the crappy stuff like green bean casserole made with condensed
mushroom soup and those horrifying canned fried onions.
I know that nothing's static, but freshly made mashed potatoes, gravy,
dressing...
Extended family and wonderful food are a joy to me. Get creative the
other 364 days.

--Bryan