On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 05:33:23 -0700, Bobo Bonobo®
wrote:

On Aug 9, 3:08 am, "Jack Kennedy" wrote:
"zxcvbob" wrote in message

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I know how to make mayonnaise, but (except for in egg salad) I like
Miracle Whip better. (It's what I grew up with) Especially the old
Miracle Whip that had soybean oil as the first ingredient instead of the
second. So what do I need to mix into homemade mayo to make homemade
Salad Dressing. Corn starch and water paste, paprika, and sugar?

Thanks,
Bob

Do as the Belgians ... make your mayonaise with lemon juice, or just add
lemonjuice to ordinary mayonaise.

All decent mayo is made with lemon juice. Vinegar does not belong in
mayo, nor does sugar, nor do egg whites, nor does corn starch, and for
what it's worth, nor does soybean oil. Reasonable tasting oils are
not that pricey.

Jack

--Bryan

jesus, what do you have against vinegar?

your pal,
blake

l, not -l wrote:

On 9-Aug-2007, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

Absurd. You say it that way out of some fake sense of propriety. If you
pronounced "map" like "mop", any good English teacher would beat you with
a
ruler, and be totally justified in doing so.
According to the M-W online dictionary, croppie is the correct
pronunciation. Click on the little speaker symbol to hear it pronounced, if
you don't believe what you see.

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?crappie

They don't even offer "crappy" as a correct alternative pronunciation.

Ditto American Heritage Dictionary. Nothing there but pron croppy. I
didn't know that. As I mentioned elsewhere, I knew it as pron like
"crappy" back in the USan Midwest.

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Becca wrote:

LOL Two of my elderly aunts were visiting. The fight started when Aunt
Reba shook the Bible at Aunt Ruby, and said there was nothing in that
book but a bunch of hogwash. I thought Aunt Ruby would have a stroke.
Then, Aunt Reba jumped in the car and backed out of the garage.
Unfortunately, she forgot to open the garage door, first.

Didn't take God long to fix *her* ass, did it?


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On Aug 9, 2:45?pm, Blinky the Shark wrote:

Ditto American Heritage Dictionary. Nothing there
but pron croppy. I didn't know that. As I mentioned
elsewhere, I knew it as pron like "crappy" back in the
USan Midwest.

Looking at the American Heritage Dictionary. circa
1969, I see:

crappie: either of two edible North American freshwater
fishes, Pomoxsis nigromaculatus, the black crappie,
or P. annularis, the white crappie, related to the
sunfishes [Canadian French: crapet]

"a" pronounced as in "pat".

This reminds me of a guy who ran for Congress
from Idaho (I think) - Mike Crapo, now a senator.
When he first ran for the House, he ran ads that
said "IT'S CRAPO", somehow indicating "a" as
in "drape".

On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 07:23:43 -0400, Ward Abbott
wrote:

On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 01:44:14 -0400, "Dee Dee"
wrote:

buy Hellman's mayo, add a little vinegar and sugar to taste.

I bought Hellman's for thirty years. A couple of months ago, Fine
Cooking did a review of jarred mayo from regional to national brands.
They rated Kraft Mayo, not Miracle Whip over all brands including Duke
brand.

I tried the Kraft Mayo and will NEVER buy anything but Kraft mayo
again. It is just like homemade. Smooth and creamy....very nice.


OTOH, I wish my homemade mayo would come out like Hellman's! The
recipes I've tried for homemade mayo are indeed like Kraft's mayo...
smooth and creamy yes, but bland and boring

On Aug 9, 9:57 am, (TammyM) wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 06:07:17 -0700, Cindy Hamilton

wrote:
On Aug 9, 7:35 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

Do you say catsup, or ketchup?

There are people who say catsup? Huh. I say ketchup no matter how
it's spelled. Midwestern born and bred.

I'm a native Californicator.

I'm a regular fornicator.

TammyM

--Bryan

On Aug 9, 8:14 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message

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On Aug 9, 7:35 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

Do you say catsup, or ketchup?

There are people who say catsup? Huh. I say ketchup no matter how
it's spelled. Midwestern born and bred.

Cindy Hamilton

Any fisherpersons in your circle of acquaintances? If so, how do they
pronounce this fish:

crappie

Do they turn it into "croppie", to avoid the bad word that will bring sin
and destruction upon their houses?

The fish is pronounced croppie. Jarred mayo is pronounced crappy.

--Bryan

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On Aug 9, 9:00 am, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
Any fisherpersons in your circle of acquaintances? If so, how do they
pronounce this fish:

crappie

Do they turn it into "croppie", to avoid the bad word that will bring
sin
and destruction upon their houses?

No, we say "croppie" because that's the correct way to pronounce it. "-)
--
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pics of Ronald McDonald House dinner posted 6-24-2007

Us, too, down here in Iowa. ;-) I've never heard anyone NOT say
"croppie."

N.


Here in Oregon it's pronounced "croppie." To say it otherwise marks the
speaker as an out-of-stater, most likely from the East.

~~ Shelly ~~

On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:43:26 -0700, Nancy2
wrote:

On Aug 9, 9:00 am, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
In article ,

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
Any fisherpersons in your circle of acquaintances? If so, how do they
pronounce this fish:

crappie

Do they turn it into "croppie", to avoid the bad word that will bring sin
and destruction upon their houses?

No, we say "croppie" because that's the correct way to pronounce it. "-)
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJhttp://www.jamlady.eboard.com- story and
pics of Ronald McDonald House dinner posted 6-24-2007

Us, too, down here in Iowa. ;-) I've never heard anyone NOT say
"croppie."

It's pronounced "croppie" in Tennessee as well. My grandfather and I
used to catch them all the time when I was a kid.

Regards,
Tracy R.

"l, not -l" wrote in message
news

On 9-Aug-2007, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

On 9-Aug-2007, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

Are you questioning the rules of pronunciation? I hope not.

As far as the specific word we're discussing, read zxcvbob's
explanation,
which makes sense, to an extent.

Nice try. I never questioned the rules of pronunciation, only your
adamant
assertion that yours was the authoritative pronunciation of the word
crappie. You were mistaken.


And yet, Kevin found my pronunciation in another dictionary. That's
interesting, don't you think?

Interesting? Yes. That was in the "circa 1969" edition of the American
Heritage Dictionary; a dictionary whose current edition offers "croppy" as
correct. I suggest you take a cue from them and drop the erroneous 1969
pronunciation for the correct one.

It has become painfully obvious that you are one of those fellows that,
even
when obviously wrong, will never admit to error. It is further evident
that
you are one who must always get in the last word; I do not suffer that
character flaw (though admit to others) and will make this my last post on
the subject.

Good!

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On Aug 9, 2:45?pm, Blinky the Shark wrote:

Ditto American Heritage Dictionary. Nothing there
but pron croppy. I didn't know that. As I mentioned
elsewhere, I knew it as pron like "crappy" back in the
USan Midwest.

Looking at the American Heritage Dictionary. circa
1969, I see:

crappie: either of two edible North American freshwater
fishes, Pomoxsis nigromaculatus, the black crappie,
or P. annularis, the white crappie, related to the
sunfishes [Canadian French: crapet]

"a" pronounced as in "pat".

This reminds me of a guy who ran for Congress
from Idaho (I think) - Mike Crapo, now a senator.
When he first ran for the House, he ran ads that
said "IT'S CRAPO", somehow indicating "a" as
in "drape".



And, let's not forget what politicians love to say when a horrible crime
requires public comment:

"We must do something about heinous crimes like this one!", pronouncing
"heinous" like "penis".

Melba's Jammin' wrote in news:barbschaller-
:

In article ,
"KW" keith_warrennospamatallteldotnet wrote:

My deep south (Central Alabama) grandparents often fought over this very
thing. Memaw claimed the long a variant (Croppie)

Errr, long a? Wouldn't that make it a CRAY-pee?



I thought long 'a' would be 'aa', and 'ay' a dipthong (really 'ei').

But I'm only a wannabe amateur linguist, and could stand to be corrected

K

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On Aug 9, 2:45?pm, Blinky the Shark wrote:

Ditto American Heritage Dictionary. Nothing there
but pron croppy. I didn't know that. As I mentioned
elsewhere, I knew it as pron like "crappy" back in the
USan Midwest.

Looking at the American Heritage Dictionary. circa
1969, I see:

crappie: either of two edible North American freshwater
fishes, Pomoxsis nigromaculatus, the black crappie,
or P. annularis, the white crappie, related to the
sunfishes [Canadian French: crapet]

"a" pronounced as in "pat".

This reminds me of a guy who ran for Congress
from Idaho (I think) - Mike Crapo, now a senator.
When he first ran for the House, he ran ads that
said "IT'S CRAPO", somehow indicating "a" as
in "drape".



And, let's not forget what politicians love to say when a horrible crime
requires public comment:

"We must do something about heinous crimes like this one!", pronouncing
"heinous" like "penis".
I've always heard it pronounced it as 'hey-nous.'

~~ Shelly ~~

"~ Shelly ~" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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On Aug 9, 2:45?pm, Blinky the Shark wrote:

Ditto American Heritage Dictionary. Nothing there
but pron croppy. I didn't know that. As I mentioned
elsewhere, I knew it as pron like "crappy" back in the
USan Midwest.

Looking at the American Heritage Dictionary. circa
1969, I see:

crappie: either of two edible North American freshwater
fishes, Pomoxsis nigromaculatus, the black crappie,
or P. annularis, the white crappie, related to the
sunfishes [Canadian French: crapet]

"a" pronounced as in "pat".

This reminds me of a guy who ran for Congress
from Idaho (I think) - Mike Crapo, now a senator.
When he first ran for the House, he ran ads that
said "IT'S CRAPO", somehow indicating "a" as
in "drape".



And, let's not forget what politicians love to say when a horrible crime
requires public comment:

"We must do something about heinous crimes like this one!", pronouncing
"heinous" like "penis".
I've always heard it pronounced it as 'hey-nous.'

~~ Shelly ~~


Yes, that's the right way. But, I've heard a few Washington blowhards
mispronounce the word.

In article ,
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

"zxcvbob" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"zxcvbob" wrote in message
...
I know how to make mayonnaise, but (except for in egg salad) I like
Miracle Whip better. (It's what I grew up with) Especially the old
Miracle Whip that had soybean oil as the first ingredient instead of the
second. So what do I need to mix into homemade mayo to make homemade
Salad Dressing. Corn starch and water paste, paprika, and sugar?

Thanks,
Bob


First you say you like Miracle Whip (branding yourself as a mutant), and
then you ask about salad dressing, which you had to reason to capitalize.
Are you asking how to make your mayo taste like Miracle Whip, or some
other thing?


I thought that was obvious. Yes, I want to make my own Miracle Whip clone
to use on sandwiches and in salads. I've made "boiled salad dressing"
before, but it isn't fatty enough. I'll continue to use real mayo when I
make egg salad or deviled eggs, which are the two legitimate uses for it.
Bob

Maybe try adding sugar to your mayo, and maybe some of those colored
sprinkles kids put on ice cream. That should give you a pretty good Miracle
Whip imitation.

Now you're just being snotty.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
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pics of Ronald McDonald House dinner posted 6-24-2007