Omelet wrote in
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Got my first prescription for Bifocals this morning.
I've chosen to try the line-less right off the bat rather
than "graduating" to them.

that's what i did.

I'm told by both the Doctor and the Op tech at the store
that I may have trouble adjusting to them for a week or
two, Dizziness, etc.

take someone with you that can drive when you pick them up.
mine made me not only dizzy, but nauseous.

Expensive suckers! Oh well.

yeah, they were. too expensive.

Should I keep my old pair for driving for now just for
safety? The Dr. says it's a bad idea to switch back and
forth.

i had mine put in my old frames, so no chance of using my old
glasses. i had them for just over a year & i could NOT get
"used to" them. i hated them with a passion rarely reserved
for mere glasses i couldn't see either distance or close up
clearly.
in fact, they sucked so badly that i drove Boo to school
several times without realizing i had forgotten to put on my
glasses...
i resorted to drugstore 2x magnifying glasses to do close up
work & only wore the bifocals when i absolutely had to.
now i have distance glasses & close-up glasses. sometimes
it's a PITA to have to swop them, but i'm no longer dizzy &
nauseous...
however, i do have an ongoing sinus infection that causes my
eyes to change frequently, so that often my perscription is
'off'. i try to get a lot of close work done on days when the
perscription actually works, because it can be days before
i'll be able to see clearly again. and there are days i don't
drive because i can't read streetsigns until i get within 15'.
lee

Dave Smith wrote:
Omelet wrote:

I've had opticians (one recently as 1995) argue with me for 45-minutes that
it was my fault, they wouldn't make any money if they re-did everyone's
prescription who couldn't adjust, perhaps I had something else wrong with
me. Give me a break!
He would not re-do them.
I'd not go back.


That is why I never went back to Lenscrafters. While the distance
correction was fine, I had a hell of a time reading with them. When I went
back to complain about them the gave me a song and dance about how you have
to learn to hold books, newspapers etc. and look down through them. It was
like wearing half glass reading glasses. Even when doing as instructed I
had a hard time. I could not scan a page, I had to move my head back and
forth and up and down. The next pair I got was from a local optician. I had
to wait a week for them, but when they came they were infinitely better
than the glasses I had from Lenscrafter. I discussed the situation with
the optician. She said that when you get the one hour glasses you sacrifice
quality workmanship and materials and assured me that I would be happier
with their glasses. I was. I have no problem with everyday reading. I
find it hard to believe that it was just me. I had had the old pair for 2
1/2 years and still hard trouble holding things just right to read them
because I had no problem at all with the new pair.


Likely what you ran into is that the big box places often use cheap labs
to make the glasses.

A family member got new glasses from a big box place (low prices
everyday) and she couldn't see well with them. They gave her the usual
song and dance that she had to get used to them. On my insistence she
asked to have them tested and they told her the lenses were perfect and
told her again that she needed to "adjust" to them. I asked that they
give her the lab report but they wouldn't do that (can't get that if you
put them in the drawer for a week and just give the "tested" glasses
back to the customer).

My buddy provides services to a local lens lab. I gave the glasses to
him to bring in to the lab to have them check the lenses. They checked
them and determined they were total crap caused by bad process control.

I went back to the big box store with her and we asked to see the most
responsible person there. I asked her for the report from the lab and
she said she didn't have it. I explained to her that I had the lenses
tested and that her one option was to make a complete refund (she did)
which one not prevent my relative from pursuing other action.






It is not all that glum as I probably sounded-- just saying, if you are
dizzy from your glasses, think about it. Glasses are just wonderful!
Expensive, yes! A non-wearer doesn't usually realize the price tag that is
hanging from one's nose.

Dee Dee
Thanks ;-)
--
Peace, Om

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Dave Smith wrote:
Sheldon wrote:

Ditto with Walmart glasses... they use inferior lenses kept in stock -
the ones they tried to pawn off on me were already full of tiny
scratches), they have only low end butt ugli frames, and have trainees
take measurements and make adjustments. You only think you're saving
money. I went to the local optician in town... sure I had to wait a
week but they worked perfectly right out of the box... just a wee bit
of adjustment with the ear pieces and it was like they were made for
me. I love Flexon frames, nothing else like them. In fact it's been
a year and I have an appointment this Friday for a check up.


It's a damned shame that so many people are hell bent on saving a few
bucks that they are happy to settle for a third rate product. Our vision is
too important for that. Besides that, it is a false economy. They get your
money by saving you 10\205 but you end up having to go back when they fail
so you end up paying even more.

Marketing is a powerful thing. Many people have been convinced that big
box places are better than sex.

George wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:
Omelet wrote:

I've had opticians (one recently as 1995) argue with me for
45-minutes that
it was my fault, they wouldn't make any money if they re-did everyone's
prescription who couldn't adjust, perhaps I had something else wrong
with
me. Give me a break!
He would not re-do them.
I'd not go back.


That is why I never went back to Lenscrafters. While the distance
correction was fine, I had a hell of a time reading with them. When I
went
back to complain about them the gave me a song and dance about how you
have
to learn to hold books, newspapers etc. and look down through them. It
was
like wearing half glass reading glasses. Even when doing as instructed I
had a hard time. I could not scan a page, I had to move my head back and
forth and up and down. The next pair I got was from a local optician.
I had
to wait a week for them, but when they came they were infinitely better
than the glasses I had from Lenscrafter. I discussed the situation with
the optician. She said that when you get the one hour glasses you
sacrifice
quality workmanship and materials and assured me that I would be happier
with their glasses. I was. I have no problem with everyday reading. I
find it hard to believe that it was just me. I had had the old pair for 2
1/2 years and still hard trouble holding things just right to read them
because I had no problem at all with the new pair.


Likely what you ran into is that the big box places often use cheap labs
to make the glasses.

A family member got new glasses from a big box place (low prices
everyday) and she couldn't see well with them. They gave her the usual
song and dance that she had to get used to them. On my insistence she
asked to have them tested and they told her the lenses were perfect and
told her again that she needed to "adjust" to them. I asked that they
give her the lab report but they wouldn't do that (can't get that if you
put them in the drawer for a week and just give the "tested" glasses
back to the customer).

My buddy provides services to a local lens lab. I gave the glasses to
him to bring in to the lab to have them check the lenses. They checked
them and determined they were total crap caused by bad process control.

I went back to the big box store with her and we asked to see the most
responsible person there. I asked her for the report from the lab and
she said she didn't have it. I explained to her that I had the lenses
tested and that her one option was to make a complete refund (she did)
which one not prevent my relative from pursuing other action.




I forgot to mention that she then went to a local (non big box)
optometrist and was instantly able to use the glasses they had made for
her.




It is not all that glum as I probably sounded-- just saying, if you are
dizzy from your glasses, think about it. Glasses are just wonderful!
Expensive, yes! A non-wearer doesn't usually realize the price tag
that is
hanging from one's nose.

Dee Dee
Thanks ;-)
--
Peace, Om

Remove _ to validate e-mails.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" --
Jack Nicholson

On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:09:50 -0500, Omelet
wrote:

Got my first prescription for Bifocals this morning.
I've chosen to try the line-less right off the bat rather than
"graduating" to them.

I'm told by both the Doctor and the Op tech at the store that I may have
trouble adjusting to them for a week or two, Dizziness, etc.

I'm open to advice, suggestions and hints. I should have them in a week
or so.....

Expensive suckers! Oh well.

I'm getting old. :-(

I've worn lined bifocals for years and this year I got lineless. I
also got lineless sunglasses for driving so I can see my XMRadio face
without reaching for the drugstores. I like them. The only problem I
have with them is that they fade in the peripheral vision and I have
to turn my head to see something to the side.

"enigma" wrote in message
. ..
Omelet wrote in
news
Got my first prescription for Bifocals this morning.
I've chosen to try the line-less right off the bat rather
than "graduating" to them.

that's what i did.

I'm told by both the Doctor and the Op tech at the store
that I may have trouble adjusting to them for a week or
two, Dizziness, etc.

take someone with you that can drive when you pick them up.
mine made me not only dizzy, but nauseous.

lee


Don't put them on when you leave the doctor's office and you won't have that
problem. Don't put them on until first thing the next morning.


Ms P

George wrote:
A family member got new glasses from a big box place (low prices
everyday) and she couldn't see well with them. They gave her the usual
song and dance that she had to get used to them. On my insistence she
asked to have them tested and they told her the lenses were perfect
and told her again that she needed to "adjust" to them. I asked that
they give her the lab report but they wouldn't do that (can't get
that if you put them in the drawer for a week and just give the
"tested" glasses back to the customer).

Our opticians are required by law to provide the patient with a copy of the
prescription.

They may then take that prescription anywhere they want to have it filled!

I've worn lined bifocals for years and this year I got lineless. I
also got lineless sunglasses for driving so I can see my XMRadio face
without reaching for the drugstores. I like them. The only problem I
have with them is that they fade in the peripheral vision and I have
to turn my head to see something to the side.

Driving, by law, you have to physically turn your head (not look thru the
side-view mirror) to check on traffic coming on either side, in order to
pass your drivers' test. So that's at least one plus, but repeating myself,
that is why I pay extra to have the lens prescription ground to a larger
area.

(at least in one state, at one time [covering my a-- on this, because I
don't want any flamers]

"George" wrote in message
. ..
Marketing is a powerful thing. Many people have been convinced that big
box places are better than sex.

You can well-get screwed over some little greedy guy running his own shop,
just as well. Some with good reputations, too.
Although I won't disagree with you on your statement above.
Dee Dee

On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 18:14:46 -0500, Tracy R.
wrote:

Fortunately I also have
monofit contact lenses (they fit your weaker eye for reading and your
dominate one for distance) and those work out fairly well

OMG, I'd be seasick all the time. I get glasses to correct my vision,
not make it worse.


--

A husband is someone who takes out the trash and gives the impression he just cleaned the whole house.

George wrote:


Likely what you ran into is that the big box places often use cheap labs
to make the glasses.

It was Lenscrafters. They make them on site.... in an hour.

As a matter of fact, I specifically made a point of mentioning Lenscrafters
several times and in several posts so that if anyone was thinking of goring
to Lenscrafters they might be swayed by my dissatisfaction.

On Aug 7, 6:44?pm, Dave Smith wrote:
Sheldon wrote:

Ditto with Walmart glasses... they use inferior lenses kept in stock -
the ones they tried to pawn off on me were already full of tiny
scratches), they have only low end butt ugli frames, and have trainees
take measurements and make adjustments. You only think you're saving
money. I went to the local optician in town... sure I had to wait a
week but they worked perfectly right out of the box... just a wee bit
of adjustment with the ear pieces and it was like they were made for
me. I love Flexon frames, nothing else like them. In fact it's been
a year and I have an appointment this Friday for a check up.

It's a damned shame that so many people are hell bent on saving a few
bucks that they are happy to settle for a third rate product. Our vision is
too important for that. Besides that, it is a false economy. They get your
money by saving you 10\205 but you end up having to go back when they fail
so you end up paying even more.

In my case I went to Walmart because I had just moved and it was too
much hassle to drive nearly 400 miles round trip to go back to my old
source for glasses. And I happened to be at the local Super Walmart
and noticed that they had an eyeglass department (I hadn't previosuly
known this, in fact it was my first time ever in a Walmart), I figured
I'd give them a shot... was a big mistake. In the end I got my
deposit back but I was out the $40 for the exam... I consider it a
cheap lesson.

For all my life I've always had my eyes examined by an Opthalmologist
(a real medical doctor), I can also claim this on my medical
insurance. This way I'd always get an expert *independant* opinion,
Opthalmologists don't sell glasses, they're not permitted by law.
Only an Opthalmologist can give a through eye exam. If it was
determined I needed a new prescription then I'd go to a optometry
store (optometrist or optician) to have the prescription filled. If
you have the same guy who sellls glasses examine your eyes you can bet
your bipee they will tell you you need new glasses even if you really
don't, not just new lenses, they will also convince you that you need
new frames too, even though your old frames are perfectly functional.

Since I've moved I haven't found an Opthamologist, actually I haven't
looked as I know they are all quite a distance, in the medical centers
near the big Albany hospitals. So I tried the optometrist in town, so
far I've been satisfied that they didn't sell me something I didn't
need, but Friday it will be only a year and will be my second visit,
so I will see. I do have a feeling I need a different prescription,
but my frames are like brand new... the problem is that if I use my
old frames for new lenses I won't be able to use these present lenses
as back up glasses. That's a bridge I'll have to cross when I get
there... I do have my last pair of glasses as a back up, and they're
good enough to get by for a few days if need be. Actually I have a
drawer full of old glasses... before I retired my employer insisted on
safety glasses, naturally they paid for them, as many as needed (just
bring a new prescription or show they were scratched), so everyone
accumulated a collection. And I can't tell you how many pairs of
steel toed shoes I own, all styles from full dress to hunting boots,
many never worn. I've always detested having to wear steel toed
shoes, they never broke in. I didn't like safety glasses either, the
lenses were thick and heavy, ditto the frames. I didn't wear the
safety shoes or safety glasses at home. Btw, there were 5,000
employees where I worked, everyone had to be issued saftey glasses....
which proves how really cheap glasses are, when you pay big bucks for
glasses it's all mark-up... my company was very frugal, they only
mandated safety equipment to lower their insurance rates, not because
they cared a fig about their employees. Eyeglasses retail at 1,000pct
mark up. That $300 pair of designer glasses costs about $30 to the
eyeglass store... why do you think you can come in for free
adjustments as many times as needed... in fact you can have your
glasses adjusted for free at any eyeglass store, didn't have to buy
them there, the eyeglass cartel long ago initiated a system of
reciprocity.

Sheldon

Sheldon wrote in
ups.com:



5,000 employees where you work, hey?


A little fish............ in a *big* pond.

Sheds some light on your postings though.



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"People sleep safely in their beds because rough men stand ready in
the night to do violence to those who would do them harm"
-- George Orwell

On 2007-08-08, Ms P wrote:

"enigma" wrote in message
. ..
Omelet wrote in
news
Got my first prescription for Bifocals this morning.
I've chosen to try the line-less right off the bat rather
than "graduating" to them.

that's what i did.

I'm told by both the Doctor and the Op tech at the store
that I may have trouble adjusting to them for a week or
two, Dizziness, etc.

take someone with you that can drive when you pick them up.
mine made me not only dizzy, but nauseous.

lee


Don't put them on when you leave the doctor's office and you won't have that
problem. Don't put them on until first thing the next morning.

I can't imagine having any of this trouble. I can see a little
weirdness in the first few minutes of wearing new glasses, but weeks
of nausea? Sounds like you're getting screwed. If my new glasses
aren't working and comfortable by the end of the intitial fitting at
the optometrist's office, I'm not going anywhere, at least not with
those glasses and an empty wallet. You are paying for optics to solve
your vision problems, not create new one's.

nb

Ophelia wrote:
George wrote:
A family member got new glasses from a big box place (low prices
everyday) and she couldn't see well with them. They gave her the usual
song and dance that she had to get used to them. On my insistence she
asked to have them tested and they told her the lenses were perfect
and told her again that she needed to "adjust" to them. I asked that
they give her the lab report but they wouldn't do that (can't get
that if you put them in the drawer for a week and just give the
"tested" glasses back to the customer).

Our opticians are required by law to provide the patient with a copy of the
prescription.


Same here. I didn't ask for or want the the prescription.

They outright lied to her that it was her and not the lenses.

They specifically claimed they sent the lenses back to be tested. I
wanted the report from the lab certifying that the lenses were good not
the prescription. I would have really did my best to embarrass and show
them for what they really are but unless they gave me some documentation
it would be "he said-she said".



They may then take that prescription anywhere they want to have it filled!