In article
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Dan Abel wrote:

In article ,
Omelet wrote:


I'm not at trifocals... yet. ;-) All in good time.

So just jump right in in the morning.


If you are in progressives (and I have no clue about "medium
progressives"), then you are already past trifocals.

The Dr. (MD not just an Op) said they were bifocals.
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In article ,
"Dee Dee" wrote:

Dear Om,
I've worn bi-focals, then tri-focals since 1975. One thing I've found is
that if I couldn't adjust to the prescription, then the prescription was
off. Other people may adjust, but I could not. If I had trouble, I kept
taking them back until they got it right. And they always worked.

Cool.

The Op tech said if I had problems, she'd be happy to work with me, as
did the Dr.


I've had opticians (one recently as 1995) argue with me for 45-minutes that
it was my fault, they wouldn't make any money if they re-did everyone's
prescription who couldn't adjust, perhaps I had something else wrong with
me. Give me a break!
He would not re-do them.

I'd not go back.


It is not all that glum as I probably sounded-- just saying, if you are
dizzy from your glasses, think about it. Glasses are just wonderful!
Expensive, yes! A non-wearer doesn't usually realize the price tag that is
hanging from one's nose.

Dee Dee

Thanks ;-)
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In article
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Dan Abel wrote:

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Sheldon wrote:

Omelet wrote:
Got my first prescription for Bifocals this morning.
I've chosen to try the line-less right off the bat rather than
"graduating" to them.

I'm told by both the Doctor and the Op tech at the store that I may have
trouble adjusting to them for a week or two, Dizziness, etc.

I'm open to advice, suggestions and hints. I should have them in a week
or so.....

Expensive suckers! Oh well.

If they're lineless they're not bifocals... you have Varilux lenses
(or some other brand of progressive lenses).

There are lineless bifocals, but as Sheldon says, most get progressives
now.

Be sure to tell the doc if they don't work. They take some adjustment.
I'm not even interested in trying. That's just me.

Thanks.
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zxcvbob wrote:

Check out zennioptical.com. They are cheap enough that you can play
around with your prescription a little. My favorite pair is .25
diopters weaker than my prescription says it should be. I can see at a
distance or read normal print with single-vision lenses at that strength
and just take them off to read fine print.

Bifocals, phooey. I wasted $200 on a pair a couple of years ago and
never could adjust to them. I see better with this $8 pair of glasses
(and better than that with my stronger $15 pair, but I have to take them
off to read)

Bob

Just spent $414.00.

Time will tell.
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Omelet wrote:
Got my first prescription for Bifocals this morning.
I've chosen to try the line-less right off the bat rather than
"graduating" to them.

I'm told by both the Doctor and the Op tech at the store that I may
have
trouble adjusting to them for a week or two, Dizziness, etc.

I'm open to advice, suggestions and hints. I should have them in a
week
or so.....

Expensive suckers! Oh well.

I've worn progressives for years and years, and never had any problems,
although backing up in the car took a little adjustment.

Just keep wearing them (do NOT switch between prescriptions) and chances are
you'll learn very quickly to love them.

Felice

Omelet wrote:


I've had opticians (one recently as 1995) argue with me for 45-minutes that
it was my fault, they wouldn't make any money if they re-did everyone's
prescription who couldn't adjust, perhaps I had something else wrong with
me. Give me a break!
He would not re-do them.

I'd not go back.


That is why I never went back to Lenscrafters. While the distance
correction was fine, I had a hell of a time reading with them. When I went
back to complain about them the gave me a song and dance about how you have
to learn to hold books, newspapers etc. and look down through them. It was
like wearing half glass reading glasses. Even when doing as instructed I
had a hard time. I could not scan a page, I had to move my head back and
forth and up and down. The next pair I got was from a local optician. I had
to wait a week for them, but when they came they were infinitely better
than the glasses I had from Lenscrafter. I discussed the situation with
the optician. She said that when you get the one hour glasses you sacrifice
quality workmanship and materials and assured me that I would be happier
with their glasses. I was. I have no problem with everyday reading. I
find it hard to believe that it was just me. I had had the old pair for 2
1/2 years and still hard trouble holding things just right to read them
because I had no problem at all with the new pair.




It is not all that glum as I probably sounded-- just saying, if you are
dizzy from your glasses, think about it. Glasses are just wonderful!
Expensive, yes! A non-wearer doesn't usually realize the price tag that is
hanging from one's nose.

Dee Dee

Thanks ;-)
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On 2007-08-07, Steve Wertz wrote:

I think it would be pretty easy to get hex focals "right".

I guess they are called progressives or some such. Whatever. I got
mine over 15 yrs ago and need some new ones, my reading focus having
gotten worse. Lately, I just use my single vision farsighted and some
cheapo reading glasses, but the progressives are still nice for
computer use, the reason I got them in the first place.

nb

On 2007-08-07, Dee Dee wrote:

I've had opticians (one recently as 1995) argue with me for 45-minutes that
it was my fault, they wouldn't make any money if they re-did everyone's
prescription who couldn't adjust, perhaps I had something else wrong with
me. Give me a break!
He would not re-do them.

Watta lying dirtbag! The profit margin in the eyeglass industry is
enormous. If he's losing money, it's because he sucks at his job.

There is a certain amount of physiological eyeball adjustment that
occurs with changing glasses and your eye will adjust, within limits.
But, if after a few days you can't adjust, the doc or OT just plain
screwed up and it's not your fault. Always make sure of your rights
as a consumer and demand them. If your doc/opt won't agree to cover
it going in, find another.

nb





It is not all that glum as I probably sounded-- just saying, if you are
dizzy from your glasses, think about it. Glasses are just wonderful!
Expensive, yes! A non-wearer doesn't usually realize the price tag that is
hanging from one's nose.

Dee Dee

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"Omelet" wrote in message
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Got my first prescription for Bifocals this morning.
I've chosen to try the line-less right off the bat rather than
"graduating" to them.



I prefer to have a separate pair of reading glasses. I wear my regular
glasses outside and wear the reading glasses inside. I had bifocals but I
developed a very painful problem with the veterbrae in my neck from holding
my head at funny angles. The idea that everything below is near and
everything above is far didn't work for me in the laboratory, at the
computer terminal, or reading in bed.

If I had saved all my old pairs of glasses from when I was a child and a
teenager I would be able to use them now as reading glasses - tell your
kids!

On Aug 7, 5:22?pm, Dave Smith wrote:
Omelet wrote:

I've had opticians (one recently as 1995) argue with me for 45-minutes that
it was my fault, they wouldn't make any money if they re-did everyone's
prescription who couldn't adjust, perhaps I had something else wrong with
me. Give me a break!
He would not re-do them.

I'd not go back.

That is why I never went back to Lenscrafters. While the distance
correction was fine, I had a hell of a time reading with them. When I went
back to complain about them the gave me a song and dance about how you have
to learn to hold books, newspapers etc. and look down through them. It was
like wearing half glass reading glasses. Even when doing as instructed I
had a hard time. I could not scan a page, I had to move my head back and
forth and up and down. The next pair I got was from a local optician. I had
to wait a week for them, but when they came they were infinitely better
than the glasses I had from Lenscrafter. I discussed the situation with
the optician. She said that when you get the one hour glasses you sacrifice
quality workmanship and materials and assured me that I would be happier
with their glasses. I was. I have no problem with everyday reading. I
find it hard to believe that it was just me. I had had the old pair for 2
1/2 years and still hard trouble holding things just right to read them
because I had no problem at all with the new pair.

Ditto with Walmart glasses... they use inferior lenses kept in stock -
the ones they tried to pawn off on me were already full of tiny
scratches), they have only low end butt ugli frames, and have trainees
take measurements and make adjustments. You only think you're saving
money. I went to the local optician in town... sure I had to wait a
week but they worked perfectly right out of the box... just a wee bit
of adjustment with the ear pieces and it was like they were made for
me. I love Flexon frames, nothing else like them. In fact it's been
a year and I have an appointment this Friday for a check up.

http://www.marchon.com/htmls_2004/flexon.asp

Sheldon

On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 16:40:27 -0500, notbob wrote:

On 2007-08-07, Steve Wertz wrote:

I think it would be pretty easy to get hex focals "right".

I guess they are called progressives or some such. Whatever. I got
mine over 15 yrs ago and need some new ones, my reading focus having
gotten worse. Lately, I just use my single vision farsighted and some
cheapo reading glasses, but the progressives are still nice for
computer use, the reason I got them in the first place.

nb

I have "web lenses" and love them. They are progressives with only
two ranges- intermediate (4-6 ft) and reading. I do have the full
progressives for general use, but when I read or work on the computer,
the web lenses are so much better. Although the reading glasses work
fine for both activities, I don't have to remove them when looking up
or across the room. I have small rooms .

engv9q2ghqa wrote:

I prefer to have a separate pair of reading glasses. I wear my regular
glasses outside and wear the reading glasses inside. I had bifocals but I

I got a pair of glasses with sunglass clip-ons and had them replace
the dark lenses with my reading prescription in the clip-ons. That way
when I'm in the office and reading computer screens and whatnot I just
put the clip on and everything is good. Take the clip off to go outside
or walking around.

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.

zxcvbob wrote:

Check out zennioptical.com. They are cheap enough that you can play
around with your prescription a little. My favorite pair is .25
diopters weaker than my prescription says it should be. I can see at a
distance or read normal print with single-vision lenses at that strength
and just take them off to read fine print.

That is where my sister ordered her glasses. She paid $400, but she
could only see straight ahead. When she looked to the right or left,
her vision was blurry. When she talked to the optician, he wanted an
extra $160 to regrind her glasses. She asked for a refund, and she got
it. She ordered glasses (bifocal, progressive, titanium) from Zenni
optical and they were perfect. They were about $89 and that included
the postage. They came with a hard carrying case and a cleansing cloth.

Her problem, was choosing the frames, they had so many to choose from.
After her glasses arrived, she ordered a pair of Rx sunglasses from
Zenni, since they were so inexpensive.

Becca

Sheldon wrote:



Ditto with Walmart glasses... they use inferior lenses kept in stock -
the ones they tried to pawn off on me were already full of tiny
scratches), they have only low end butt ugli frames, and have trainees
take measurements and make adjustments. You only think you're saving
money. I went to the local optician in town... sure I had to wait a
week but they worked perfectly right out of the box... just a wee bit
of adjustment with the ear pieces and it was like they were made for
me. I love Flexon frames, nothing else like them. In fact it's been
a year and I have an appointment this Friday for a check up.


It's a damned shame that so many people are hell bent on saving a few
bucks that they are happy to settle for a third rate product. Our vision is
too important for that. Besides that, it is a false economy. They get your
money by saving you 10\205 but you end up having to go back when they fail
so you end up paying even more.

engv9q2ghqa wrote:


I prefer to have a separate pair of reading glasses. I wear my regular
glasses outside and wear the reading glasses inside. I had bifocals but I
developed a very painful problem with the veterbrae in my neck from holding
my head at funny angles. The idea that everything below is near and
everything above is far didn't work for me in the laboratory, at the
computer terminal, or reading in bed.

Did you get them from Walmart or some other cheap... or one hour service?
If you can wear reading glasses around the house your correction must no be
too bad. If you need a stronger prescription, do yourself a favour and go
to a proper optician and spend a few dollars more for quality glasses. It
is no bargain to save maybe as much as $50 to get glasses you don't like.