Steve Pope wrote:

It's always correct to drink a basic red wine out of a tumbler, but
for that I have the thick Mexican ones made from melted-down coke
bottles, with the blue-ish rims. And red wine in any sort of
cut crystal is straight out unpleasant for me.

Ha. Almost every Italian family I know (or knew) drinks family red outta
small juice glasses, lol. Something that probably once came in a box of
laundry soap or dish soap box fifty years ago. The Murano glass is in
the dining room, sure...but the everyday stuff came outta a soap box. Or
perhaps a frozen shrimp cocktail from the grocery store many years ago. LOL

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
"modom (palindrome guy)" moc.etoyok@modom wrote in message
Martini is exactly what is called for. Regardless of the shape of the
glass, freeze it, pour in a little dry vermouth, swish it around, pour
out what's not frozen to the glass of any shape, add very cold Bombay
Sapphire and two olives.


Not liking olives all that much, I use onions, but the method is a good one.
Just a hint of vermouth; any more overpowers the gin and wastes the money
spent on the botanicals.


My father always liked his with a lemon twist. We always seemed to have
a poor slowly denuded lemon drying up in the fridge later to be tossed
down the disposal once all the peel was gone.

On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 22:30:21 -0400, Goomba38
magnanimously proffered:

Steve Pope wrote:

It's always correct to drink a basic red wine out of a tumbler, but
for that I have the thick Mexican ones made from melted-down coke
bottles, with the blue-ish rims. And red wine in any sort of
cut crystal is straight out unpleasant for me.

Ha. Almost every Italian family I know (or knew) drinks family red outta
small juice glasses, lol. Something that probably once came in a box of
laundry soap or dish soap box fifty years ago. The Murano glass is in
the dining room, sure...but the everyday stuff came outta a soap box. Or
perhaps a frozen shrimp cocktail from the grocery store many years ago. LOL

Got tired of people spilling wine - especially red - and having to
hand wash tall, fragile & expensive wine glasses instead of being able
to use the dishwasher. So unless it's a really REALLY special occasion
that includes our adult children (who love drinking out of the
surviving family crystal), we serve wine in nice, big glasses with
heavy, weighted bottoms (like good whisky tumblers). Doesn't mean we
still don't have the occasional spill, but at least they're now few
and far between.


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una cerveza mas por favor ...

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zxcvbob wrote:

I bought a bottle of expensivish gin yesterday, instead of the
moderately cheap stuff I usually get. It cost twice as much than my
Seagram's, and is about 20% stronger. I just wanted to see what the
difference was.

Is there anything I need to try with it that I normally wouldn't drink
with cheaper gin? I usually have gin & tonic in the summer, or
sometimes gin & Fresca. I had a shot last night, chilled and it did
taste better like that than Seagram's, but that could have just been the
higher alcohol content which numbs ones taste buds.

A real Martini, maybe? (Can I still call it a Martini if I use the
wrong shaped glass?)

Bob

Dunno, I like the Tanqueray Ten personally. I think it qualifies as
expensive, but since a bottle lasts me about five years the price is
pretty much irrelevant. It's nearly always used for gin and tonic.

Pete C.

zxcvbob wrote:
Is there anything I need to try with it that I normally wouldn't drink
with cheaper gin? I usually have gin & tonic in the summer, or
sometimes gin & Fresca. I had a shot last night, chilled and it did
taste better like that than Seagram's, but that could have just been the
higher alcohol content which numbs ones taste buds.

Do it with your normal G&T setup. You'll notice the
difference and realize it's always worth the premium
price.

A real Martini, maybe? (Can I still call it a Martini if I use the
wrong shaped glass?)

Yes. That's a cocktail glass. Martinis are properly
served in DOFs.

--Blair
"And stirred."

Blair P. Houghton wrote:

That's a cocktail glass. Martinis are properly
served in DOFs.

Double Old-Fashioned glasses?

Why, or from when and where, was this proper for Martinis?

Steve

On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:47:25 -0500, zxcvbob
magnanimously proffered:

I bought a bottle of expensivish gin yesterday, instead of the
moderately cheap stuff I usually get. It cost twice as much than my
Seagram's, and is about 20% stronger. I just wanted to see what the
difference was.

Is there anything I need to try with it that I normally wouldn't drink
with cheaper gin? I usually have gin & tonic in the summer, or
sometimes gin & Fresca. I had a shot last night, chilled and it did
taste better like that than Seagram's, but that could have just been the
higher alcohol content which numbs ones taste buds.

I'm not a gin drinker. In fact, I dislike the taste. However, my wife
is a gin & tonic drinker and usually buys Seagram.

One of our houseguests brought her a bottle of Bombay Sapphire in a
royal blue velvet bag (which I inherited), and she used it for G&T's
for the two nights he was staying with us. But after he went, what was
left went into the back of the drinks cupboard until his next visit.

Since I don't drink gin I wasn't aware that, to a gin drinker, there
can be a lot of difference between the tastes of various brands ...
and my wife found the Bombay Sapphire a bit too sweet for her taste.

I suppose it's a bit like the differences between vodkas, only less
subtle. My favourite is vodka Abosult or ... if I'm flush ... 42 Below
(a New Zealand vodka). Wonderful in a martini, regardless of the glass
.... but even better straight out of the freezer or on its own over
crushed ice.

BTW - someone who had an office on the same floor of the building I
worked in years ago was partial to drinking gin straight or with a
little water. No tonic. No lemon or lime.

His office was right next to a well known restaurant and wine critic
who, like me, couldn't stand the taste of gin whatever it was or was
not mixed with. But when the gin drinker retired, we all shared a
drink of gin & water with him in his office on his final day (before
adjourning to the pub on the opposite corner for some serious
drinking).


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una cerveza mas por favor ...

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Wax-up and drop-in of Surfing's Golden Years: http://www.surfwriter.net
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Melba's Jammin' wrote:
In article ,
Goomba38 wrote:

I'm more approving of a real martini in the wrong glass than I ever
could be about the wrong ingredients being called a martini just because
it comes in a "martini" glass.

I salute you!


I frosted an Old Fashioned glass -- a least I think that's what kind of
glass it is, a short glass tumbler with a thick heavy bottom. I put a
few tiny ice cubes in it, added 1/2 ounce of Stock white vermouth and 4
1/2 ounces of the 94 proof fancy-pants gin. Stirred it up real good
with my finger, scooped out the ice, and added 2 olives.

I've decided I don't like Martinis. I guess I'm not old enough yet.
Time for a beer.

Bob

zxcvbob wrote:

I frosted an Old Fashioned glass -- a least I think that's what kind of
glass it is, a short glass tumbler with a thick heavy bottom.

I always knew those as "lowball" glasses, but I've heard them referred
to as Old Fashioned glasses too.

On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:47:25 -0500, zxcvbob
wrote:

A real Martini, maybe? (Can I still call it a Martini if I use the
wrong shaped glass?)

Sapphire is perfect for a dry martini.
--

History is a vast early warning system
Norman Cousins

On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 22:30:21 -0400, Goomba38
wrote:

Steve Pope wrote:

It's always correct to drink a basic red wine out of a tumbler, but
for that I have the thick Mexican ones made from melted-down coke
bottles, with the blue-ish rims. And red wine in any sort of
cut crystal is straight out unpleasant for me.

Ha. Almost every Italian family I know (or knew) drinks family red outta
small juice glasses, lol. Something that probably once came in a box of
laundry soap or dish soap box fifty years ago. The Murano glass is in
the dining room, sure...but the everyday stuff came outta a soap box. Or
perhaps a frozen shrimp cocktail from the grocery store many years ago. LOL

Not a jelly glass?


--

History is a vast early warning system
Norman Cousins

On 2007-07-07, bob wrote:

Got tired of people spilling wine - especially red - and having to
hand wash tall, fragile & expensive wine glasses instead of being able
to use the dishwasher.....

In prep for move, offed all glassware. Crystal decanters, martini glasses,
Reidel, etc. Keeping one set, four 8oz glasses from France. They are my
wine, cocktail, water, etc, glasses and I love 'em. Handy, practical, and
damned near bullet-proof, not to mention kinda classy looking. I recommend
them above all others:

http://www.le-tom.com/duralex-picardie-small

Places like Sur Hi Tab and W-S used to carry them.

nb

sf wrote:

Ha. Almost every Italian family I know (or knew) drinks family red outta
small juice glasses, lol. Something that probably once came in a box of
laundry soap or dish soap box fifty years ago. The Murano glass is in
the dining room, sure...but the everyday stuff came outta a soap box. Or
perhaps a frozen shrimp cocktail from the grocery store many years ago. LOL

Not a jelly glass?


oh yeah.. jelly glasses too! they're actually just like a lot of those
old laundry soap depression glasses.

notbob wrote:

In prep for move, offed all glassware. Crystal decanters, martini glasses,
Reidel, etc. Keeping one set, four 8oz glasses from France.

Only four sort of makes a party hard to hold...?

On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 01:43:07 +0000 (UTC), (Steve
Pope) wrote:

In my opinion, Sapphire is pretty inferior for gin and tonics, but
is okay for a martini occasionally (although nowhere near the best).
Beefeaters makes a somewhat better traditional martini, a vastly better
G&T, and costs considerably less. A step up from Beefeaters is Boodles.

Then there is the category of "martini gins" designed to be used
without vermouth. A very good straight-ahead example is Junipero.
Some others are Hendricks, 209, Tanqueray 10, and the newly-introduced
Tanqueray Rangpur. All of these have too many botanical flavors
to be a really good choice for a G&T, but may have what you want
in a martini.

Sapphire makes a great dry martini and Beefeaters is my top choice for
G & T. Tanqueray is good for G & T too, but not as good as
Beefeaters... I've never heard of Tanqueray 10 or Rangpur. They are
probably like the gin Chris D talks about.... Plymouth? You have to
search for where it's sold and bars don't serve it (I've asked).

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History is a vast early warning system
Norman Cousins