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bworthey[_2_] 28-06-2007 04:11 AM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 
Okay, just read something disturbing, just read somewhere, NOT to cook
lasagna in an aluminum foil pan because something about it reacting with the
tomato sauce.....I'm the one that posted about cooking for the large group
and this is what I had planned to do. Any thoughts on this?

B-Worthey



[email protected] 28-06-2007 04:19 AM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 
On Jun 28, 1:11 pm, "bworthey" > wrote:
> Okay, just read something disturbing, just read somewhere, NOT to cook
> lasagna in an aluminum foil pan because something about it reacting with the
> tomato sauce.....I'm the one that posted about cooking for the large group
> and this is what I had planned to do. Any thoughts on this?
>
> B-Worthey


The foil pan is no more or less harmful than any other aluminium
cookware, that is to say quite benign. There was a scare about
aluminium concerning altzheimers (spelling?) disease but it has been
debunked. Millions of people have been using aluminium cookware for
decades and come to no harm. Yes it is true that acidic sauces (eg
with tomato) will dissolve aluminium a lttle faster than plain water
but it is not significant for health.

David



Edwin Pawlowski 28-06-2007 04:47 AM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 

"bworthey" > wrote in message
...
> Okay, just read something disturbing, just read somewhere, NOT to cook
> lasagna in an aluminum foil pan because something about it reacting with
> the tomato sauce.....I'm the one that posted about cooking for the large
> group and this is what I had planned to do. Any thoughts on this?
>
> B-Worthey


Sometimes the tomato sauce, being acidic, can give a metalic off taste. You
can always line the pan with parchment paper.
>
>




wandrew 28-06-2007 08:42 AM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:19:03 -0700, "
> wrote:

>On Jun 28, 1:11 pm, "bworthey" > wrote:
>> Okay, just read something disturbing, just read somewhere, NOT to cook
>> lasagna in an aluminum foil pan because something about it reacting with the
>> tomato sauce.....I'm the one that posted about cooking for the large group
>> and this is what I had planned to do. Any thoughts on this?
>>
>> B-Worthey

>
>The foil pan is no more or less harmful than any other aluminium
>cookware, that is to say quite benign. There was a scare about
>aluminium concerning altzheimers (spelling?) disease but it has been
>debunked. Millions of people have been using aluminium cookware for
>decades and come to no harm. Yes it is true that acidic sauces (eg
>with tomato) will dissolve aluminium a lttle faster than plain water
>but it is not significant for health.
>
>David
>


so you say... aluminum still scares me

Sheldon 28-06-2007 12:54 PM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 
On Jun 27, 11:11?pm, "bworthey" > wrote:
> Okay, just read something disturbing, just read somewhere, NOT to cook
> lasagna in an aluminum foil pan because something about it reacting with the
> tomato sauce.....I'm the one that posted about cooking for the large group
> and this is what I had planned to do. Any thoughts on this?
>
> B-Worthey


The aluminum pan won't harm the lasagna but the lasagna can harm the
aluminum pan. Acidic food such as tomato will set off an electrolytic
reaction (same as an acid cell battery) that will cause the aluminum
to decay. With thin foil pans the acidic tomato will cause holes to
form. It's okay to cook in the aluminum pans but not a good idea to
store foods in aluminum for any lenth of time, no more than 24 hours.
Actually the electrolytic reaction will not occur where there is
direct contact, only where there is a very narrow air gap, such as
when using foil as a cover, then pin holes will form where the
aluminuun comes very near the acidic food but not where it actually
makes contact. If you cook your lasagna in disposable aluminum pans
use plastic wrap to cover the left overs and it will be fine... but
still do not store foods in aluminum (or any metasl cookware for that
matter, not stainless steel either) for more than 24 hours. With
strongly flavored foods such as lasagna most people will not detect an
off flavor, but when cooking delicately flavored foods such as fish
(especially seafood) and veal it's best not to use aluminum,
especially if citrus is involved. Also, those who use iodized salt,
get rid of your aluminum cookware... all seafood contains iodine, the
reaction with aluminum is nasty.



Omelet 28-06-2007 03:50 PM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 
In article >,
"bworthey" > wrote:

> Okay, just read something disturbing, just read somewhere, NOT to cook
> lasagna in an aluminum foil pan because something about it reacting with the
> tomato sauce.....I'm the one that posted about cooking for the large group
> and this is what I had planned to do. Any thoughts on this?
>
> B-Worthey


Yes.

The acid in tomato dissolves the aluminum.

Never cook ANYTHING acidic in aluminum.

I once made the mistake of covering a tomato based dish with aluminum
foil and it ate holes in the foil leaving nasty black bitter spots on
top of my food, and visible holes in the foil.

I had to scrape it all off.

It's a very bad idea to combine tomato and aluminum.

I no longer own any aluminum cookware and I'm a lot more careful now
with foil.
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Omelet 28-06-2007 03:51 PM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 
In article . com>,
" > wrote:

> On Jun 28, 1:11 pm, "bworthey" > wrote:
> > Okay, just read something disturbing, just read somewhere, NOT to cook
> > lasagna in an aluminum foil pan because something about it reacting with the
> > tomato sauce.....I'm the one that posted about cooking for the large group
> > and this is what I had planned to do. Any thoughts on this?
> >
> > B-Worthey

>
> The foil pan is no more or less harmful than any other aluminium
> cookware, that is to say quite benign. There was a scare about
> aluminium concerning altzheimers (spelling?) disease but it has been
> debunked. Millions of people have been using aluminium cookware for
> decades and come to no harm. Yes it is true that acidic sauces (eg
> with tomato) will dissolve aluminium a lttle faster than plain water
> but it is not significant for health.
>
> David


I don't worry about health with it as much as appearance and flavor.

Aluminum oxide in your food is ugly and tastes bad.
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Goomba38 28-06-2007 03:55 PM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 
Omelet wrote:

> The acid in tomato dissolves the aluminum.
>
> Never cook ANYTHING acidic in aluminum.
>
> I once made the mistake of covering a tomato based dish with aluminum
> foil and it ate holes in the foil leaving nasty black bitter spots on
> top of my food, and visible holes in the foil.


I've often covered lasagna in foil (when doing the uncooked pasta
method) and have NEVER seen holes develop, and somehow commercial frozen
lasagna uses aluminum all the time without problem.

[email protected] 28-06-2007 04:28 PM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 
: Omelet wrote:

: > The acid in tomato dissolves the aluminum.
: >
: > Never cook ANYTHING acidic in aluminum.
: >
: > I once made the mistake of covering a tomato based dish with aluminum
: > foil and it ate holes in the foil leaving nasty black bitter spots on
: > top of my food, and visible holes in the foil.

: I've often covered lasagna in foil (when doing the uncooked pasta
: method) and have NEVER seen holes develop, and somehow commercial frozen
: lasagna uses aluminum all the time without problem.

Your lasagna may not have tomato sauce directly in contact with the
foil, or else you didn't look closely enough. I've seen it quite
a few times! Do a simple test - put a piece of foil into a dish
containing tomato sauce overnight. Then put your glasses on and
take a good look.

Omelet 28-06-2007 04:42 PM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 
In article >,
Goomba38 > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> > The acid in tomato dissolves the aluminum.
> >
> > Never cook ANYTHING acidic in aluminum.
> >
> > I once made the mistake of covering a tomato based dish with aluminum
> > foil and it ate holes in the foil leaving nasty black bitter spots on
> > top of my food, and visible holes in the foil.

>
> I've often covered lasagna in foil (when doing the uncooked pasta
> method) and have NEVER seen holes develop, and somehow commercial frozen
> lasagna uses aluminum all the time without problem.


Yep.

I'm always wrong and you are always right.

I made a mistake clearing you from my killfile.

I took it hot to a potluck.

The tomato ate holes in regular reynolds wrap and left black spots on my
food. Mom chewed me out for the error.

Whatever floats your boat.
--
Peace, Om

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Omelet 28-06-2007 05:07 PM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 
In article >,
wrote:

> : Omelet wrote:
>
> : > The acid in tomato dissolves the aluminum.
> : >
> : > Never cook ANYTHING acidic in aluminum.
> : >
> : > I once made the mistake of covering a tomato based dish with aluminum
> : > foil and it ate holes in the foil leaving nasty black bitter spots on
> : > top of my food, and visible holes in the foil.
>
> : I've often covered lasagna in foil (when doing the uncooked pasta
> : method) and have NEVER seen holes develop, and somehow commercial frozen
> : lasagna uses aluminum all the time without problem.
>
> Your lasagna may not have tomato sauce directly in contact with the
> foil, or else you didn't look closely enough. I've seen it quite
> a few times! Do a simple test - put a piece of foil into a dish
> containing tomato sauce overnight. Then put your glasses on and
> take a good look.


ROFL!!!

Thanks Joebob!
No matter what I write, she attacks my posts and disagrees.

I just don't get that.
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bworthey[_2_] 28-06-2007 06:15 PM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 

"Omelet" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Goomba38 > wrote:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>>
>> > The acid in tomato dissolves the aluminum.
>> >
>> > Never cook ANYTHING acidic in aluminum.
>> >


Well, I'm not sure, either, I cover my lasagna with aluminum foil and have
never had that problem, but it may not have come in contact either. I need
to figure this out because I'm getting ready to cook a lot of lasagna and
had planned on doing it in aluminum foil pans, I"m not going to leave it
stored in there, just cook it in there. But I don't knwo what to do know.
My church does not have enough of the big pans for me to not have to cook at
least 2 batches of it, but then I don't know what I'd do with what was
already cooked. I don't know what to do, and I have to do something before
tomorrow!!!!

Freaking out here!

B-Worthey



Omelet 28-06-2007 06:23 PM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 
In article >,
"bworthey" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > Goomba38 > wrote:
> >
> >> Omelet wrote:
> >>
> >> > The acid in tomato dissolves the aluminum.
> >> >
> >> > Never cook ANYTHING acidic in aluminum.
> >> >

>
> Well, I'm not sure, either, I cover my lasagna with aluminum foil and have
> never had that problem, but it may not have come in contact either. I need
> to figure this out because I'm getting ready to cook a lot of lasagna and
> had planned on doing it in aluminum foil pans, I"m not going to leave it
> stored in there, just cook it in there. But I don't knwo what to do know.
> My church does not have enough of the big pans for me to not have to cook at
> least 2 batches of it, but then I don't know what I'd do with what was
> already cooked. I don't know what to do, and I have to do something before
> tomorrow!!!!
>
> Freaking out here!
>
> B-Worthey


Sorry... :-)

You could line the pans?

Mom always used glass to cook Lasagna.

If I had not had this actually happen to me (and got my nose rubbed into
what happened by my now deceased mom), I would not have bothered to
mention it.
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Sheldon 28-06-2007 06:32 PM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 
On Jun 28, 1:15?pm, "bworthey" > wrote:
> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > In article >,
> > Goomba38 > wrote:

>
> >> Omelet wrote:

>
> >> > The acid in tomato dissolves the aluminum.

>
> >> > Never cook ANYTHING acidic in aluminum.

>
> Well, I'm not sure, either, I cover my lasagna with aluminum foil and have
> never had that problem, but it may not have come in contact either. I need
> to figure this out because I'm getting ready to cook a lot of lasagna and
> had planned on doing it in aluminum foil pans, I"m not going to leave it
> stored in there, just cook it in there. But I don't knwo what to do know.
> My church does not have enough of the big pans for me to not have to cook at
> least 2 batches of it, but then I don't know what I'd do with what was
> already cooked. I don't know what to do, and I have to do something before
> tomorrow!!!!
>
> Freaking out here!


It's a church feed... pray a lot! Then serve bologna-yaller musturd
sandwiches. LOL

I would strongly suggest you buy the largest foil pans that will fit
comforably in whatever oven you're using... you should be able to
easily feed 20 from a large pan, you don't need to mess with ten teeny
weeny pans. If you go to a party supply emporium they will sell you
large foil pans with those foil lined cardboard lids for baking...
they also have clear domed plastic lids for presentation and/or fridge
storage. I think you're making much more drama out of this than is
necessary, you seem to be unreasonably consumed with aluminum, are you
hitting the church wine locker? I'm serious.



Dave Bugg 28-06-2007 07:42 PM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 
wandrew wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:19:03 -0700, "
> > wrote:
>
>> On Jun 28, 1:11 pm, "bworthey" > wrote:
>>> Okay, just read something disturbing, just read somewhere, NOT to
>>> cook lasagna in an aluminum foil pan because something about it
>>> reacting with the tomato sauce.....I'm the one that posted about
>>> cooking for the large group and this is what I had planned to do.
>>> Any thoughts on this?
>>>
>>> B-Worthey

>>
>> The foil pan is no more or less harmful than any other aluminium
>> cookware, that is to say quite benign. There was a scare about
>> aluminium concerning altzheimers (spelling?) disease but it has been
>> debunked. Millions of people have been using aluminium cookware for
>> decades and come to no harm. Yes it is true that acidic sauces (eg
>> with tomato) will dissolve aluminium a lttle faster than plain water
>> but it is not significant for health.
>>
>> David
>>

>
> so you say... aluminum still scares me


Actually, science says it. Superstitions and personal phobias are optional.

--
Dave
www.davebbq.com



bworthey[_2_] 28-06-2007 07:51 PM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 

"Sheldon" > wrote in message > It's a church feed... pray
a lot! Then serve bologna-yaller musturd
> sandwiches. LOL
>
> I would strongly suggest you buy the largest foil pans that will fit
> comforably in whatever oven you're using... you should be able to
> easily feed 20 from a large pan, you don't need to mess with ten teeny
> weeny pans. If you go to a party supply emporium they will sell you
> large foil pans with those foil lined cardboard lids for baking...
> they also have clear domed plastic lids for presentation and/or fridge
> storage. I think you're making much more drama out of this than is
> necessary, you seem to be unreasonably consumed with aluminum, are you
> hitting the church wine locker? I'm serious.
>


Hitting the church wine locker? What the crap are you talking about?

The only thing I have not figured out about the large ones is how many
servings I can get out of them, etc. I'm not unreasonably consumed with
aluminum, thats just what I was goign to use because that seemed like the
easiest option. I did not have enough of the larger pans at my church to
cook what I needed, so I had to have another option, and second of all, I
have had WAY too many opinions when it comes to multiplying the recipe to a
bigger pan. So if I did the teeny weeny, as you put it, I don't have to
worry about how much goes in there, or how many servings, I know exactly how
much I can get. the other way, I really don't know. Just like I've had 10
different opinions here about using the aluminum pans, so which is it,
what's right, what's wrong?

B-Worthey



Nancy2 28-06-2007 07:57 PM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 
On Jun 28, 1:51 pm, "bworthey" > wrote:
> "Sheldon" > wrote in message > It's a church feed... pray
>
> a lot! Then serve bologna-yaller musturd
>
> > sandwiches. LOL

>
> > I would strongly suggest you buy the largest foil pans that will fit
> > comforably in whatever oven you're using... you should be able to
> > easily feed 20 from a large pan, you don't need to mess with ten teeny
> > weeny pans. If you go to a party supply emporium they will sell you
> > large foil pans with those foil lined cardboard lids for baking...
> > they also have clear domed plastic lids for presentation and/or fridge
> > storage. I think you're making much more drama out of this than is
> > necessary, you seem to be unreasonably consumed with aluminum, are you
> > hitting the church wine locker? I'm serious.

>
> Hitting the church wine locker? What the crap are you talking about?
>
> The only thing I have not figured out about the large ones is how many
> servings I can get out of them, etc. I'm not unreasonably consumed with
> aluminum, thats just what I was goign to use because that seemed like the
> easiest option. I did not have enough of the larger pans at my church to
> cook what I needed, so I had to have another option, and second of all, I
> have had WAY too many opinions when it comes to multiplying the recipe to a
> bigger pan. So if I did the teeny weeny, as you put it, I don't have to
> worry about how much goes in there, or how many servings, I know exactly how
> much I can get. the other way, I really don't know. Just like I've had 10
> different opinions here about using the aluminum pans, so which is it,
> what's right, what's wrong?
>
> B-Worthey



Make it in the aluminum; bake it in the aluminum; serve it in the
aluminum. Transfer it to plastic or glass for storage of leftovers.

I've used aluminum for decades for tomato sauced foods and as long as
they don't sit in the aluminum for extended periods, it's fine.

YMMV.

N.


Goomba38 28-06-2007 10:23 PM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 
Omelet wrote:

>> I've often covered lasagna in foil (when doing the uncooked pasta
>> method) and have NEVER seen holes develop, and somehow commercial frozen
>> lasagna uses aluminum all the time without problem.

>
> Yep.
>
> I'm always wrong and you are always right.
>
> I made a mistake clearing you from my killfile.
>
> I took it hot to a potluck.
>
> The tomato ate holes in regular reynolds wrap and left black spots on my
> food. Mom chewed me out for the error.
>
> Whatever floats your boat.


I believe you were the only one who said it would cause holes. I
responded that in my experience I'd never had this problem and that
commercial manufacturers seem to manage also?
YOU seem to have a need to toss logic out of the window and assume my
experience somehow is "picking on you" instead of just me providing
alternative experience.
Shame your mom "chewed you out" for doing something that plenty of other
people and companies do routinely and never have a problem.

Dave Bugg 28-06-2007 10:37 PM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 
Goomba38 wrote:

> ....... companies do routinely and never have a problem.


Stouffer's is one example of dozens of frozen lasagne purveyors which use
aluminum aluminum pans for their product.
--
Dave
www.davebbq.com



Goomba38 28-06-2007 10:40 PM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 
Dave Bugg wrote:
> Goomba38 wrote:
>
>> ....... companies do routinely and never have a problem.

>
> Stouffer's is one example of dozens of frozen lasagne purveyors which use
> aluminum aluminum pans for their product.


<slaps head> Of course! Stouffer's! I couldn't think of the exact name a
little while ago. Thanks.

Dan Abel 28-06-2007 10:41 PM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 
In article >,
"bworthey" > wrote:

> "Sheldon" > wrote in message > It's a church feed... pray
> a lot! Then serve bologna-yaller musturd
> > sandwiches. LOL
> >
> > I would strongly suggest you buy the largest foil pans that will fit
> > comforably in whatever oven you're using



> > storage. I think you're making much more drama out of this than is
> > necessary, you seem to be unreasonably consumed with aluminum, are you
> > hitting the church wine locker? I'm serious.


If you are cooking for a large group for the first time, it's natural to
be a little nervous.

> Hitting the church wine locker? What the crap are you talking about?



It's just Sheldon. Don't pay any attention to his insults, it doesn't
do any good.



> Just like I've had 10
> different opinions here about using the aluminum pans, so which is it,
> what's right, what's wrong?



You won't like my answer, but when I find that 10 people all have the
same opinion, I listen. When they have 10 different opinions, I just
figure that it makes no difference.

Sheldon 28-06-2007 10:52 PM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 
"Dave Bug" wrote:
> Goomba38 wrote:
> > ....... companies do routinely and never have a problem.

>
> Stouffer's is one example of dozens of frozen lasagne purveyors which use
> aluminum aluminum pans for their product.


Just about every guinea restaurant on the planet cooks tomato sauce
based foods in aluminum. The only draw back is that somehow there
must be a connection between aluminum and not bathing. LOL

In case anyone noticed I don't do lasagna in aluminum, my Farberware
pans are all stainless steel. I don't own any aluminum cookware.

Sheldon



Goomba38 28-06-2007 10:54 PM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 
Dan Abel wrote:

>> Just like I've had 10
>> different opinions here about using the aluminum pans, so which is it,
>> what's right, what's wrong?

>
>
> You won't like my answer, but when I find that 10 people all have the
> same opinion, I listen. When they have 10 different opinions, I just
> figure that it makes no difference.


Short of me going back and looking again, I think all of us who have
done so (or eaten the commercial products out of the alum pans) and
lived to tell about it can attest to the fact that she won't hurt anyone
nor the lasagna is she uses the aluminum pans.

Nancy Young 28-06-2007 11:07 PM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 

"Goomba38" > wrote

> Short of me going back and looking again, I think all of us who have done
> so (or eaten the commercial products out of the alum pans) and lived to
> tell about it can attest to the fact that she won't hurt anyone nor the
> lasagna is she uses the aluminum pans.


I must have been to a gazillion functions where there were
trays of lasagna, ziti, eggplant parm, etc in those disposable aluminum
lasagna pans. I've brought trays of homemade lasagna in those pans
to events. It was all fine.

nancy



Sheldon 28-06-2007 11:27 PM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 
On Jun 28, 2:51?pm, "bworthey" > wrote:
> "Sheldon" > wrote in message > It's a church feed... pray
>
> a lot! Then serve bologna-yaller musturd
>
> > sandwiches. LOL

>
> > I would strongly suggest you buy the largest foil pans that will fit
> > comforably in whatever oven you're using... you should be able to
> > easily feed 20 from a large pan, you don't need to mess with ten teeny
> > weeny pans. If you go to a party supply emporium they will sell you
> > large foil pans with those foil lined cardboard lids for baking...
> > they also have clear domed plastic lids for presentation and/or fridge
> > storage. I think you're making much more drama out of this than is
> > necessary, you seem to be unreasonably consumed with aluminum, are you
> > hitting the church wine locker? I'm serious.



etc. ?I'm not unreasonably consumed with
> aluminum, thats just what I was goign to use because that seemed like the
> easiest option. I did not have enough of the larger pans at my church to
> cook what I needed, so I had to have another option, and second of all, I
> have had WAY too many opinions when it comes to multiplying the recipe to a
> bigger pan. So if I did the teeny weeny, as you put it, I don't have to
> worry about how much goes in there, or how many servings, I know exactly how
> much I can get. the other way, I really don't know. Just like I've had 10
> different opinions here about using the aluminum pans, so which is it,
> what's right, what's wrong?


> Hitting the church wine locker? What the crap are you talking about?
>
>
> The only thing I have not figured out about the large ones is how many
> servings I can get out of them,


Then no one can help you because you are beyond salvation... anyone
with a 6th grade education and a tape measure and/or measuring cup can
figure that out all by themself... tell us you're not retarded, then I
say you're a liar. Do you really expect anyone to believe that you
are incapable of calculating and converting volume of friggin'
roasting pans... how old are you, are you potty trained, does your
mommy still wipe your ass. You are definitely not right in the head.


Default User 28-06-2007 11:37 PM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 
Goomba38 wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> > The tomato ate holes in regular reynolds wrap and left black spots
> > on my food. Mom chewed me out for the error.
> >
> > Whatever floats your boat.

>
> I believe you were the only one who said it would cause holes.


Oh, I've had it eat through aluminum foil where it happened to touch.
However, the pans are made from a much heavier grade of foil, I doubt
it could eat through one of those in any reasonable time frame.

We used to get pasta from a local restaurant for the cumpnee Christmas
feed (Rigazzi's for you St. Louis people). We got it in the big foil
pans, and the tortellini with tomato sauce didn't seem to be adversely
affected, although it was in there only for a few hours or so).



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
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hahabogus 29-06-2007 01:37 AM

Lasagna in Aluminum Pan
 
"Nancy Young" > wrote in
:

>
> "Goomba38" > wrote
>
>> Short of me going back and looking again, I think all of us who have
>> done so (or eaten the commercial products out of the alum pans) and
>> lived to tell about it can attest to the fact that she won't hurt
>> anyone nor the lasagna is she uses the aluminum pans.

>
> I must have been to a gazillion functions where there were
> trays of lasagna, ziti, eggplant parm, etc in those disposable
> aluminum lasagna pans. I've brought trays of homemade lasagna in
> those pans to events. It was all fine.
>
> nancy
>
>
>


So it took me 3 hrs to put the bbq together the first time and only 2
hours to assemble it correctly the second time. Steaks in your marinade
went on around 7 and they tasted purdy good...Round steak though is too
lean for this method though...You can learn something new everyday.

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Nancy Young 29-06-2007 01:46 AM

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"hahabogus" > wrote

> "Nancy Young" > wrote


>> I must have been to a gazillion functions where there were
>> trays of lasagna, ziti, eggplant parm, etc in those disposable
>> aluminum lasagna pans. I've brought trays of homemade lasagna in
>> those pans to events. It was all fine.


> So it took me 3 hrs to put the bbq together the first time and only 2
> hours to assemble it correctly the second time.


I hope you don't have to do that again for a long time!

> Steaks in your marinade
> went on around 7 and they tasted purdy good...Round steak though is too
> lean for this method though...You can learn something new everyday.


I have nothing good to say about any cut of meat with round
in its name, myself. I'm glad it tasted good, at least, as you
chewed it. Heh.

nancy



Omelet 29-06-2007 04:52 PM

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In article >,
Goomba38 > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> >> I've often covered lasagna in foil (when doing the uncooked pasta
> >> method) and have NEVER seen holes develop, and somehow commercial frozen
> >> lasagna uses aluminum all the time without problem.

> >
> > Yep.
> >
> > I'm always wrong and you are always right.
> >
> > I made a mistake clearing you from my killfile.
> >
> > I took it hot to a potluck.
> >
> > The tomato ate holes in regular reynolds wrap and left black spots on my
> > food. Mom chewed me out for the error.
> >
> > Whatever floats your boat.

>
> I believe you were the only one who said it would cause holes. I
> responded that in my experience I'd never had this problem and that
> commercial manufacturers seem to manage also?
> YOU seem to have a need to toss logic out of the window and assume my
> experience somehow is "picking on you" instead of just me providing
> alternative experience.
> Shame your mom "chewed you out" for doing something that plenty of other
> people and companies do routinely and never have a problem.


It's the WAY you answer my posts! You have yet to ever agree with
anything I post and you always answer them in a negative manner, as if
you are trying to make me look like a liar or an idiot.

You are a very negative person.

What is wrong with you???

I was merely stating experience I have had covering tomato dishes with
aluminum foil! Are you calling me a liar or something? For crying out
loud!!!

I covered a tomato based cassarole with some aluminum foil for a potluck.
When I got to the party, the foil was full of little holes and there
were ugly bitter black spots all over the top of the food where the foil
had dissolved.

If you don't believe me, you know where you can place it!

You also seem to stalk my posts just so you can attack them.

You need some meds or something. Being a control freak is a mental
illness.
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Omelet 29-06-2007 04:55 PM

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In article .com>,
Sheldon > wrote:

> "Dave Bug" wrote:
> > Goomba38 wrote:
> > > ....... companies do routinely and never have a problem.

> >
> > Stouffer's is one example of dozens of frozen lasagne purveyors which use
> > aluminum aluminum pans for their product.

>
> Just about every guinea restaurant on the planet cooks tomato sauce
> based foods in aluminum. The only draw back is that somehow there
> must be a connection between aluminum and not bathing. LOL
>
> In case anyone noticed I don't do lasagna in aluminum, my Farberware
> pans are all stainless steel. I don't own any aluminum cookware.
>
> Sheldon


Mom used glass.
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Omelet 29-06-2007 04:56 PM

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In article >,
Goomba38 > wrote:

> Dan Abel wrote:
>
> >> Just like I've had 10
> >> different opinions here about using the aluminum pans, so which is it,
> >> what's right, what's wrong?

> >
> >
> > You won't like my answer, but when I find that 10 people all have the
> > same opinion, I listen. When they have 10 different opinions, I just
> > figure that it makes no difference.

>
> Short of me going back and looking again, I think all of us who have
> done so (or eaten the commercial products out of the alum pans) and
> lived to tell about it can attest to the fact that she won't hurt anyone
> nor the lasagna is she uses the aluminum pans.


It obviously causes slow brain rot, and personality deterioration on
your part.
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Omelet 29-06-2007 04:59 PM

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In article >,
"Default User" > wrote:

> Goomba38 wrote:
>
> > Omelet wrote:
> >
> > > The tomato ate holes in regular reynolds wrap and left black spots
> > > on my food. Mom chewed me out for the error.
> > >
> > > Whatever floats your boat.

> >
> > I believe you were the only one who said it would cause holes.

>
> Oh, I've had it eat through aluminum foil where it happened to touch.


Thank you!

> However, the pans are made from a much heavier grade of foil, I doubt
> it could eat through one of those in any reasonable time frame.


Time frame being the key!

>
> We used to get pasta from a local restaurant for the cumpnee Christmas
> feed (Rigazzi's for you St. Louis people). We got it in the big foil
> pans, and the tortellini with tomato sauce didn't seem to be adversely
> affected, although it was in there only for a few hours or so).
>
>
>
> Brian


It might not eat holes in it, but the fact remains that aluminum is
reactive with acids. Just because everybody does it does not make it
wise.

Try pouring some muriatic acid into an aluminum pan sometime and watch
what happens.

Be sure to do this OUTDOORS!

FWIW, I will use disposable aluminum roasting pans for turkeys from time
to time, but never for tomato based foods.

YMMV.
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Blinky the Shark 29-06-2007 06:11 PM

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Omelet wrote:
> In article >, "Default User"
> > wrote:
>
>> Goomba38 wrote:
>>
>> > Omelet wrote:
>> >
>> > > The tomato ate holes in regular reynolds wrap and left black
>> > > spots on my food. Mom chewed me out for the error.
>> > >
>> > > Whatever floats your boat.
>> >
>> > I believe you were the only one who said it would cause holes.

>>
>> Oh, I've had it eat through aluminum foil where it happened to touch.

>
> Thank you!


I've had that happen. Small black spots on the food that match small
holes in the foil.


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Omelet 29-06-2007 06:19 PM

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In article >,
Blinky the Shark > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >, "Default User"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Goomba38 wrote:
> >>
> >> > Omelet wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > The tomato ate holes in regular reynolds wrap and left black
> >> > > spots on my food. Mom chewed me out for the error.
> >> > >
> >> > > Whatever floats your boat.
> >> >
> >> > I believe you were the only one who said it would cause holes.
> >>
> >> Oh, I've had it eat through aluminum foil where it happened to touch.

> >
> > Thank you!

>
> I've had that happen. Small black spots on the food that match small
> holes in the foil.


That makes three now. ;-)

Guess that proves that just because Goomba has never had it happen, it
never will eh?
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Goomba38 29-06-2007 06:21 PM

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Omelet wrote:

>> I've had that happen. Small black spots on the food that match small
>> holes in the foil.

>
> That makes three now. ;-)
>
> Guess that proves that just because Goomba has never had it happen, it
> never will eh?


It just makes sense to present both sides of an issue. You don't have to
take everything as a personal affront. Your screeching posts to me put
your credibility at a disadvantage, IMO.

Blinky the Shark 29-06-2007 06:22 PM

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Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>> > In article >, "Default User"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Goomba38 wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Omelet wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > The tomato ate holes in regular reynolds wrap and left black
>> >> > > spots on my food. Mom chewed me out for the error.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Whatever floats your boat.
>> >> >
>> >> > I believe you were the only one who said it would cause holes.
>> >>
>> >> Oh, I've had it eat through aluminum foil where it happened to touch.
>> >
>> > Thank you!

>>
>> I've had that happen. Small black spots on the food that match small
>> holes in the foil.

>
> That makes three now. ;-)
>
> Guess that proves that just because Goomba has never had it happen, it
> never will eh?


That only took one. The other two are just spares. :)


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Omelet 29-06-2007 06:29 PM

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In article >,
Goomba38 > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> >> I've had that happen. Small black spots on the food that match small
> >> holes in the foil.

> >
> > That makes three now. ;-)
> >
> > Guess that proves that just because Goomba has never had it happen, it
> > never will eh?

>
> It just makes sense to present both sides of an issue. You don't have to
> take everything as a personal affront. Your screeching posts to me put
> your credibility at a disadvantage, IMO.


I have the right to defend myself when you call me a liar.

I really really really wish you'd killfile me.
I'm sick to death of your attacks on me, always attempting to discredit
me.

I'm not going to take it any more.
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Omelet 29-06-2007 06:31 PM

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In article >,
Goomba38 > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> >> I've had that happen. Small black spots on the food that match small
> >> holes in the foil.

> >
> > That makes three now. ;-)
> >
> > Guess that proves that just because Goomba has never had it happen, it
> > never will eh?

>
> It just makes sense to present both sides of an issue. You don't have to
> take everything as a personal affront. Your screeching posts to me put
> your credibility at a disadvantage, IMO.


I'm not the one that approves of poisoning noisy dogs...
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Omelet 29-06-2007 06:31 PM

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In article >,
Blinky the Shark > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > Blinky the Shark > wrote:
> >
> >> Omelet wrote:
> >> > In article >, "Default User"
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Goomba38 wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Omelet wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > The tomato ate holes in regular reynolds wrap and left black
> >> >> > > spots on my food. Mom chewed me out for the error.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Whatever floats your boat.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I believe you were the only one who said it would cause holes.
> >> >>
> >> >> Oh, I've had it eat through aluminum foil where it happened to touch.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you!
> >>
> >> I've had that happen. Small black spots on the food that match small
> >> holes in the foil.

> >
> > That makes three now. ;-)
> >
> > Guess that proves that just because Goomba has never had it happen, it
> > never will eh?

>
> That only took one. The other two are just spares. :)


<grins>
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Goomba38 29-06-2007 07:11 PM

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Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> Goomba38 > wrote:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>>
>>>> I've had that happen. Small black spots on the food that match small
>>>> holes in the foil.
>>> That makes three now. ;-)
>>>
>>> Guess that proves that just because Goomba has never had it happen, it
>>> never will eh?

>> It just makes sense to present both sides of an issue. You don't have to
>> take everything as a personal affront. Your screeching posts to me put
>> your credibility at a disadvantage, IMO.

>
> I have the right to defend myself when you call me a liar.
>
> I really really really wish you'd killfile me.
> I'm sick to death of your attacks on me, always attempting to discredit
> me.
>
> I'm not going to take it any more.


Please prove where I've ever called you a "liar"???


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