In article , willille-
says...
kilikini wrote:

jmcquown wrote:
kilikini wrote:

(snippage)
They can't (legally) use food stamps to buy anything at a drive-thru,
or even at a salad bar in a grocery store (not that they would be
anywhere *near* the salad bar LOL ). Can't buy pre-prepared foods
like rotisserie chicken or other pre-prepared items from the deli
counter, either. I can understand the restaurant/drive-thru rule,
but what the heck is wrong with fresh food someone else put together
at the grocery store? Gotta be better than boxes of brownie mix and
Kraft mac & cheese.

Jill

I've wondered that a thousand times, Jill. Why can't a person get deli
food
on food stamps? It makes NO sense to me. Wouldn't a fresh sandwich from
the deli be better than spaghettios?

kili
Why can't they get off their dead butt and make their own food? Why should
the taxpayer support them on deli food? They have a stove and cookpot I
assume. If they need help I can see buying them the basics, but deli food.
damn!


Spoken like a true neo-conservative. I know working people who still get
food stamps because their income won't cover things like, oh, food.
Minimum wage is not a livable wage. It's the cruel joke we play.

And a college education isn't cheap. And that seems to be the minimum
entry ticket these days.

On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 11:44:27 +0200, Giusi wrote:

kilikini wrote:
Giusi wrote:
kilikini wrote:

Anyway, it seems that you are uniquely in place to bring the kids in
and have them help prepare something delicious from the tomatoes that
they
can unquestionably make themselves. Ligurian tomato salad? Cut into
big cubes, add minced garlic, salt, oil, some chiffonade of basil,
cover with a clean towel and leave on the counter for a few hours,
then eat
with crusty bread. It's hard to believe that spaghettios could
compete with that. No one could be incapable of making it. The
tomatoes are free.

I intend to show them how to make their own marinara sauce. A nice
tomato/cucumber salad would be good, too. I keep trying to show them that
cooking is fun, but they still prefer to open a box up from their freezer.

kili

If you are teaching a baby to walk, you don't take him on a country mile
long hike. Start even easier. Don't even turn on the stove. Just get
them to good food and stand back.


Along that line, here is a no cook pasta sauce.


* Exported from MasterCook *

Salsa Di Pomodori

Recipe By :
Serving Size : 4 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories : Pasta

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
3 tomatoes -- chopped
1/2 cup onion -- chopped
1 tablespoon basil, fresh -- chopped
1 clove garlic -- minced
3/4 pound pasta -- cooked and drained
2 tablespoons butter

Combine tomato, onion, basil & garlic.

Toss pasta with butter.

Add sauce, toss to coat.

Season to taste.



--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

In article ,
"kilikini" wrote:


I *do* plan on making homemade pizza and I'll bake them one when I do.
Their current favorite pizza place is a pizza buffet chain called Hungry
Howies. It's $5.00 a pizza for up to 3 toppings, I think. $5.00 a pizza?
I think NOT. Ugh! I need to school them. :~)

I just came home from their house. I was helping them set up for their
daughter's birthday party and we made an "ice cream cake". Ahem. Ready?
Ice Cream Cake, via Christal B. 6 ice cream sandwiches lined up together.
Top with a mixture of cool whip, chocolate pudding, sundae fudge topping,
and crushed oreos. Layer the remaining 6 ice cream sandwiches on top of the
pudding mix and add remaining cool whip on top. Put it in the freezer.
Freeze and Serve. Yeah, that's my idea of a cake! :-P

Clever... but EW! G

I confess to shelling out at Baskin Robbins once per year for one for my
sister's B-day as she specifically requests them. I know I could make
one for less tho'.


When they pulled out the instant pudding mix, I immediately asked, "Okay,
where's the milk, the eggs, sugar, vanilla, etc. and do we have a pot to
cook it in?" They looked at me like I was nuts. They countered with, "No,
this is instant." I took a few steps back and replied, "I have no idea what
to do with instant pudding. How does it work? You mean you don't have to
cook it on the stove?"

smiles I understand.
At least they did not get the pre-made puddings in small cartons.


We're living in two different worlds here. I was seriously lost. I don't
know how to make instant pudding! Who's worse, them or me? ACK!

kili

lol

I do know how to make that stuff, but I don't buy it. I, too, learned at
a friends place back when I was in high school. :-)
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In article
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Dan Abel wrote:

In article ,
(J S) wrote:



They had that cake on TV recently,in the story about the couple who
had 16 children,dont recall their name,They made a similar cake with ice
cream sandwiches and instant pudding.I guess with that many kids you
need to be creative!
Smitty in St,Pete

When I was in high school, I had a friend with seven brothers and seven
sisters. She showed me their cake mix. It was a 100 pound tub. When
you have that many kids, you can't afford ice cream sandwiches (the
father was a doctor).

Bet they ate a lot of pasta! ;-)
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In article ,
Giusi wrote:

kilikini wrote:


I've wondered that a thousand times, Jill. Why can't a person get deli food
on food stamps? It makes NO sense to me. Wouldn't a fresh sandwich from
the deli be better than spaghettios?

kili

That's probably considered restaurant food.

Anyway, it seems that you are uniquely in place to bring the kids in and
have them help prepare something delicious from the tomatoes that they
can unquestionably make themselves. Ligurian tomato salad? Cut into
big cubes, add minced garlic, salt, oil, some chiffonade of basil, cover
with a clean towel and leave on the counter for a few hours, then eat
with crusty bread. It's hard to believe that spaghettios could compete
with that. No one could be incapable of making it. The tomatoes are free.

Even when I sometimes cheat and use a commercially prepared tomato sauce
as a base, I tend to like it chunkier, so I blanch and peel fresh
tomatoes (that is SO easy to do!) and dice them to add to the sauce.
Freshens the flavor too along with the fresh herbs from the herb garden.
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In article ,
"kilikini" wrote:

Giusi wrote:
kilikini wrote:


I've wondered that a thousand times, Jill. Why can't a person get
deli food on food stamps? It makes NO sense to me. Wouldn't a
fresh sandwich from the deli be better than spaghettios?

kili

That's probably considered restaurant food.

Anyway, it seems that you are uniquely in place to bring the kids in
and have them help prepare something delicious from the tomatoes that
they
can unquestionably make themselves. Ligurian tomato salad? Cut into
big cubes, add minced garlic, salt, oil, some chiffonade of basil,
cover with a clean towel and leave on the counter for a few hours,
then eat
with crusty bread. It's hard to believe that spaghettios could
compete with that. No one could be incapable of making it. The
tomatoes are free.

I intend to show them how to make their own marinara sauce. A nice
tomato/cucumber salad would be good, too. I keep trying to show them that
cooking is fun, but they still prefer to open a box up from their freezer.

kili

Even if you can just rescue _one_ of them, it'll be worth the effort. :-)
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In article ,
The Cook wrote:

Along that line, here is a no cook pasta sauce.


* Exported from MasterCook *

Salsa Di Pomodori

Recipe By :
Serving Size : 4 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories : Pasta

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
3 tomatoes -- chopped
1/2 cup onion -- chopped
1 tablespoon basil, fresh -- chopped
1 clove garlic -- minced
3/4 pound pasta -- cooked and drained
2 tablespoons butter

Combine tomato, onion, basil & garlic.

Toss pasta with butter.

Add sauce, toss to coat.

Season to taste.

Hm, cool idea, but I detest raw onion and cooking garlic mellows it and
takes away the heat.

I think, in this one case, if it's not going to be cooked, I'd
substitute granulated garlic and onion powder.
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In article ,
says...
In article ,
The Cook wrote:

Along that line, here is a no cook pasta sauce.


* Exported from MasterCook *

Salsa Di Pomodori

Recipe By :
Serving Size : 4 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories : Pasta

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
3 tomatoes -- chopped
1/2 cup onion -- chopped
1 tablespoon basil, fresh -- chopped
1 clove garlic -- minced
3/4 pound pasta -- cooked and drained
2 tablespoons butter

Combine tomato, onion, basil & garlic.

Toss pasta with butter.

Add sauce, toss to coat.

Season to taste.

Hm, cool idea, but I detest raw onion and cooking garlic mellows it and
takes away the heat.

I think, in this one case, if it's not going to be cooked, I'd
substitute granulated garlic and onion powder.


Garlic needs very little heat to cook. If the pan is pretty hot 30
seconds is usually enough. It's usually the LAST thing I add to most
non-sauce dishes.

The Cook wrote:

Along that line, here is a no cook pasta sauce.


* Exported from MasterCook *

Salsa Di Pomodori

Recipe By :
Serving Size : 4 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories : Pasta

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
3 tomatoes -- chopped
1/2 cup onion -- chopped
1 tablespoon basil, fresh -- chopped
1 clove garlic -- minced
3/4 pound pasta -- cooked and drained
2 tablespoons butter

Combine tomato, onion, basil & garlic.

Toss pasta with butter.

Add sauce, toss to coat.

Season to taste.

That sounds so nice and fresh! Recipe saved. Thanks!

kili

Omelet wrote:
In article ,
"kilikini" wrote:

Giusi wrote:
kilikini wrote:


I've wondered that a thousand times, Jill. Why can't a person get
deli food on food stamps? It makes NO sense to me. Wouldn't a
fresh sandwich from the deli be better than spaghettios?

kili

That's probably considered restaurant food.

Anyway, it seems that you are uniquely in place to bring the kids in
and have them help prepare something delicious from the tomatoes
that they
can unquestionably make themselves. Ligurian tomato salad? Cut
into big cubes, add minced garlic, salt, oil, some chiffonade of
basil, cover with a clean towel and leave on the counter for a few
hours, then eat
with crusty bread. It's hard to believe that spaghettios could
compete with that. No one could be incapable of making it. The
tomatoes are free.

I intend to show them how to make their own marinara sauce. A nice
tomato/cucumber salad would be good, too. I keep trying to show
them that cooking is fun, but they still prefer to open a box up
from their freezer.

kili

Even if you can just rescue _one_ of them, it'll be worth the effort.
:-)

I'm working on the 16 year old. She's actually on a diet and is
semi-interested in cooking. She knows enough to thaw out chicken breast and
bake them with lemon pepper. It's a start! Boring, but it's a start.

kili

"T" wrote

Garlic needs very little heat to cook. If the pan is pretty hot 30
seconds is usually enough. It's usually the LAST thing I add to most
non-sauce dishes.


Same here. It s nasty when overcooked at too high a heat, too.



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"Omelet" wrote

Hm, cool idea, but I detest raw onion [...]

Wow, that's a strong reaction! I really like it and have begun adding it,
finely chopped, to my egg salad. Anything to get more vegetables.



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On Jun 15, 12:33 pm, "jmcquown" wrote:
kilikini wrote:
cybercat wrote:
"kilikini" wrote in message
.. .

Then she chortled, "I don't know what half of those things are that
you just
said!"

Sigh. Sad. Very, very sad.

It is, and sadder still is the shape your friends will be in down the
road, unless they are genetically blessed and really lucky.

No, the entire family is morbidly obese and currently suffer from a
myriad of health problems. My friend has a 16 year old daughter who
weighs in at close to 300 pounds, if not more, and her 13 year old is
quickly approaching the 180 pound mark. (The *really* sad thing is
that I get her 13 year old's hand-me-down sweaters and jackets when
they no longer fit her.)

The children should have been removed from the home. Allowing your
kids to get that obese is damned near as bad as allowing their
stepfather to molest them.

As I've said before, I have no problem with heavyset people. Enjoy
*good*, healthy, food, eat well and eat all you want for all I care.
But this family eats nothing except crap that comes from a can, a
box, a bag, or a drive thru - and on the U.S. taxes.

(snippage)
They can't (legally) use food stamps to buy anything at a drive-thru, or
even at a salad bar in a grocery store (not that they would be anywhere
*near* the salad bar LOL ). Can't buy pre-prepared foods like rotisserie
chicken or other pre-prepared items from the deli counter, either. I can
understand the restaurant/drive-thru rule, but what the heck is wrong with
fresh food someone else put together at the grocery store? Gotta be better
than boxes of brownie mix and Kraft mac & cheese.

It's be nice if food stamps were severely restricted to the items on
the perimeter of the grocery stores, such as fresh fruits and veggies,
eggs and dairy, and meats. You should also ba able to use them for
frozen or canned veggies, dried beans, and a few other things that
just don't happen to come to mind right now. I strongly believe in
the concept of food stamps and WIC, but they should never be allowed
to be used for high GI carbs or things like, "boxes of brownie mix and
Kraft mac & cheese."
I'd also like to see govt. farm subsidies go to growers of veggies and
fruits, and eliminated for farmers of corn, wheat, rice and soybeans.

Jill

--Bryan

BOBOBOnoBO® wrote:
On Jun 15, 12:33 pm, "jmcquown" wrote:


It's be nice if food stamps were severely restricted to the items on
the perimeter of the grocery stores, such as fresh fruits and veggies,
eggs and dairy, and meats. You should also ba able to use them for
frozen or canned veggies, dried beans, and a few other things that
just don't happen to come to mind right now. I strongly believe in
the concept of food stamps and WIC, but they should never be allowed
to be used for high GI carbs or things like, "boxes of brownie mix and
Kraft mac & cheese."
I'd also like to see govt. farm subsidies go to growers of veggies and
fruits, and eliminated for farmers of corn, wheat, rice and soybeans.

An all fruit and all veggie diet is hardly balanced nor likely to rear
healthy kids. You need grains etc. Also, if you force poor people to
eat no packaged stuff, you'd better be sure they know how to cook and
what works nutritionally. And that they have kitchen facilities.
Taking these subjects out of schools was a tragic error, IMO.

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T wrote:

In article , willille-
says...
(snip)
kili
Why can't they get off their dead butt and make their own food? Why
should the taxpayer support them on deli food? They have a stove and
cookpot I assume. If they need help I can see buying them the basics, but
deli food. damn!


Spoken like a true neo-conservative. I know working people who still get
food stamps because their income won't cover things like, oh, food.
Minimum wage is not a livable wage. It's the cruel joke we play.

And a college education isn't cheap. And that seems to be the minimum
entry ticket these days.

Spoken like a true life liberal. I see no where in the original post about
anyone working. I ran a soup kitchen for years and I know about the working
poor. I also know about social leaches.