"Omelet" wrote

A lot of people use home-made pizza as a "gateway" recipe if you know
what I mean?

Pastorio did that. Wish I'd have kept that post. :-)


That is a great idea.

I have a relative who is having big problems with her teenaged
boys acting out. When they stayed with us, they were impossible
to feed as they eat nothing healthy at all. I asked what to buy when
all my ideas were shot down, and was told big generic boxes of
dead sweet cereal like Captain Crunch and such, sugared sodas,
salty chips. We ordered pizza and two of them would not eat it
if it had anything but cheese on it.

As far as their acting out, all that sugar and caffeine along with all
that raging testosterone? What a nightmare. Just the rapid
fluctuations of blood sugar that eating all that refined carb
crap causes would make them bad boys. It is sad.



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On Jun 15, 11:03 am, Omelet wrote:
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Dan Abel wrote:





In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article ,
"kilikini" wrote:

My friends are being gifted a carton of vine-ripened tomatoes. They only
want a couple because these are the friends of mine who don't cook, they
only buy processed food on their food stamp card.
Then she chortled, "I don't know what half of those things are that you
just
said!"

Sigh. Sad. Very, very sad.

kili

They are missing out on great gustatorial joy... ;-d

I've known several people who view food as fuel. They know they need to
eat in order to have a life, and their bodies complain just like ours do
when they don't get food. However, these people that I know personally,
are all familiar with good nutrition. They are all of normal weight.
They are physically fit. I don't have a problem with their diet,
although I don't identify with it.

While I do try to cook as much for nutrition as flavor most of the time,
life sucks enough as it is sometimes...

Why give up the joy of food?

If you REALLY know how to cook, food can be fuel AND joy!!!
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I agree- it's one of the few simple pleasures we can afford. I have a
hard time serving crap to my 9 year old, but fortunately he likes good
food, like almost all vegetables. I never forced either of my kids to
eat what was healthy- just started from the beginning of not doing the
short order cook thing and giving in.

In article ,
"cybercat" wrote:

"Omelet" wrote

A lot of people use home-made pizza as a "gateway" recipe if you know
what I mean?

Pastorio did that. Wish I'd have kept that post. :-)


That is a great idea.

I have a relative who is having big problems with her teenaged
boys acting out. When they stayed with us, they were impossible
to feed as they eat nothing healthy at all. I asked what to buy when
all my ideas were shot down, and was told big generic boxes of
dead sweet cereal like Captain Crunch and such, sugared sodas,
salty chips. We ordered pizza and two of them would not eat it
if it had anything but cheese on it.

As far as their acting out, all that sugar and caffeine along with all
that raging testosterone? What a nightmare. Just the rapid
fluctuations of blood sugar that eating all that refined carb
crap causes would make them bad boys. It is sad.

Getting kids to participate in cooking gives them more of a feeling of
control. :-)
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jmcquown wrote:
kilikini wrote:

(snippage)
They can't (legally) use food stamps to buy anything at a drive-thru,
or even at a salad bar in a grocery store (not that they would be
anywhere *near* the salad bar LOL ). Can't buy pre-prepared foods
like rotisserie chicken or other pre-prepared items from the deli
counter, either. I can understand the restaurant/drive-thru rule,
but what the heck is wrong with fresh food someone else put together
at the grocery store? Gotta be better than boxes of brownie mix and
Kraft mac & cheese.

Jill

I've wondered that a thousand times, Jill. Why can't a person get deli food
on food stamps? It makes NO sense to me. Wouldn't a fresh sandwich from
the deli be better than spaghettios?

kili

"kilikini" wrote in
:

jmcquown wrote:
kilikini wrote:

(snippage)
They can't (legally) use food stamps to buy anything at a drive-thru,
or even at a salad bar in a grocery store (not that they would be
anywhere *near* the salad bar LOL ). Can't buy pre-prepared foods
like rotisserie chicken or other pre-prepared items from the deli
counter, either. I can understand the restaurant/drive-thru rule,
but what the heck is wrong with fresh food someone else put together
at the grocery store? Gotta be better than boxes of brownie mix and
Kraft mac & cheese.

Jill

I've wondered that a thousand times, Jill. Why can't a person get
deli food on food stamps? It makes NO sense to me. Wouldn't a fresh
sandwich from the deli be better than spaghettios?

kili




not price wise...deli stuff is more pricey than canned crud. One sandwich
would probably equate to two cans of Spaghettios.

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It'll be a sunny day in August, when the Moon will shine that night-
Elbonian Folklore

kilikini wrote:

jmcquown wrote:
kilikini wrote:

(snippage)
They can't (legally) use food stamps to buy anything at a drive-thru,
or even at a salad bar in a grocery store (not that they would be
anywhere *near* the salad bar LOL ). Can't buy pre-prepared foods
like rotisserie chicken or other pre-prepared items from the deli
counter, either. I can understand the restaurant/drive-thru rule,
but what the heck is wrong with fresh food someone else put together
at the grocery store? Gotta be better than boxes of brownie mix and
Kraft mac & cheese.

Jill

I've wondered that a thousand times, Jill. Why can't a person get deli
food
on food stamps? It makes NO sense to me. Wouldn't a fresh sandwich from
the deli be better than spaghettios?

kili
Why can't they get off their dead butt and make their own food? Why should
the taxpayer support them on deli food? They have a stove and cookpot I
assume. If they need help I can see buying them the basics, but deli food.
damn!

Omelet wrote:
In article ,
"kilikini" wrote:

Then she chortled, "I don't know what half of those things are that
you just said!"

Sigh. Sad. Very, very sad.

kili

They are missing out on great gustatorial joy... ;-d

I agree. AND, she's not teaching her kids anything; she's
perpetuating the madness and she doesn't even care.

kili

I wish you could help on just that one point...

A lot of people use home-made pizza as a "gateway" recipe if you know
what I mean?

Pastorio did that. Wish I'd have kept that post. :-)

I *do* plan on making homemade pizza and I'll bake them one when I do.
Their current favorite pizza place is a pizza buffet chain called Hungry
Howies. It's $5.00 a pizza for up to 3 toppings, I think. $5.00 a pizza?
I think NOT. Ugh! I need to school them. :~)

I just came home from their house. I was helping them set up for their
daughter's birthday party and we made an "ice cream cake". Ahem. Ready?
Ice Cream Cake, via Christal B. 6 ice cream sandwiches lined up together.
Top with a mixture of cool whip, chocolate pudding, sundae fudge topping,
and crushed oreos. Layer the remaining 6 ice cream sandwiches on top of the
pudding mix and add remaining cool whip on top. Put it in the freezer.
Freeze and Serve. Yeah, that's my idea of a cake! :-P

When they pulled out the instant pudding mix, I immediately asked, "Okay,
where's the milk, the eggs, sugar, vanilla, etc. and do we have a pot to
cook it in?" They looked at me like I was nuts. They countered with, "No,
this is instant." I took a few steps back and replied, "I have no idea what
to do with instant pudding. How does it work? You mean you don't have to
cook it on the stove?"

We're living in two different worlds here. I was seriously lost. I don't
know how to make instant pudding! Who's worse, them or me? ACK!

kili

In article ,
"kilikini" wrote:

jmcquown wrote:
kilikini wrote:

(snippage)
They can't (legally) use food stamps to buy anything at a drive-thru,
or even at a salad bar in a grocery store (not that they would be
anywhere *near* the salad bar LOL ).


I've wondered that a thousand times, Jill. Why can't a person get deli food
on food stamps? It makes NO sense to me. Wouldn't a fresh sandwich from
the deli be better than spaghettios?


Any time you make laws or regulations, the line has to be drawn
somewhere. There's always a significant number of things that end up on
the wrong side of the line. There's some junk in the deli section.
Unless you list every single item, some stuff won't make sense.

Carton of tomatoes

Group: rec.food.cooking Date: Fri, Jun 15, 2007, 7:02pm From:
(kilikini)
Omelet wrote:
In article , "kilikini"
wrote:
I just came home from their house. I was helping them set up for their
daughter's birthday party and we made an "ice cream cake". Ahem. Ready?
Ice Cream Cake, via Christal B. 6 ice cream sandwiches lined up
together. Top with a mixture of cool whip, chocolate pudding, sundae
fudge topping, and crushed oreos. Layer the remaining 6 ice cream
sandwiches on top of the pudding mix and add remaining cool whip on top.
Put it in the freezer. Freeze and Serve. Yeah, that's my idea of a cake!
:-P
When they pulled out the instant pudding mix, I immediately asked,
"Okay, where's the milk, the eggs, sugar, vanilla, etc. and do we have a
pot to cook it in?" * They looked at me like I was nuts. They
countered with, "No, this is instant." I took a few steps back and
replied, "I have no idea what to do with instant pudding. How does it
work? You mean you don't have to cook it on the stove?"
We're living in two different worlds here. I was seriously lost. I don't
know how to make instant pudding! Who's worse, them or me? ACK!
kili

They had that cake on TV recently,in the story about the couple who
had 16 children,dont recall their name,They made a similar cake with ice
cream sandwiches and instant pudding.I guess with that many kids you
need to be creative!
Smitty in St,Pete

In article ,
(J S) wrote:



They had that cake on TV recently,in the story about the couple who
had 16 children,dont recall their name,They made a similar cake with ice
cream sandwiches and instant pudding.I guess with that many kids you
need to be creative!
Smitty in St,Pete

When I was in high school, I had a friend with seven brothers and seven
sisters. She showed me their cake mix. It was a 100 pound tub. When
you have that many kids, you can't afford ice cream sandwiches (the
father was a doctor).

"kilikini" wrote in message
...
Omelet wrote:
In article ,
"kilikini" wrote:

Then she chortled, "I don't know what half of those things are that
you just said!"

Sigh. Sad. Very, very sad.

kili

They are missing out on great gustatorial joy... ;-d

I agree. AND, she's not teaching her kids anything; she's
perpetuating the madness and she doesn't even care.

kili

I wish you could help on just that one point...

A lot of people use home-made pizza as a "gateway" recipe if you know
what I mean?

Pastorio did that. Wish I'd have kept that post. :-)

I *do* plan on making homemade pizza and I'll bake them one when I do.
Their current favorite pizza place is a pizza buffet chain called Hungry
Howies. It's $5.00 a pizza for up to 3 toppings, I think. $5.00 a pizza?
I think NOT. Ugh! I need to school them. :~)

I just came home from their house. I was helping them set up for their
daughter's birthday party and we made an "ice cream cake". Ahem. Ready?
Ice Cream Cake, via Christal B. 6 ice cream sandwiches lined up together.
Top with a mixture of cool whip, chocolate pudding, sundae fudge topping,
and crushed oreos. Layer the remaining 6 ice cream sandwiches on top of
the
pudding mix and add remaining cool whip on top. Put it in the freezer.
Freeze and Serve. Yeah, that's my idea of a cake! :-P

When they pulled out the instant pudding mix, I immediately asked, "Okay,
where's the milk, the eggs, sugar, vanilla, etc. and do we have a pot to
cook it in?" They looked at me like I was nuts. They countered with,
"No,
this is instant." I took a few steps back and replied, "I have no idea
what
to do with instant pudding. How does it work? You mean you don't have to
cook it on the stove?"

We're living in two different worlds here. I was seriously lost. I don't
know how to make instant pudding! Who's worse, them or me? ACK!

kili



IIRC, that "cake recipe", or one very similar was in a recent issue of Kraft
Foods magazine (you can get it free from Kraft's website). So, maybe, just
maybe, she at least reads about foods (or just looks at the pictures), other
than the ones listed on the menu under the clowns head!

winston winslo wrote:
kilikini wrote:

jmcquown wrote:
kilikini wrote:

(snippage)
They can't (legally) use food stamps to buy anything at a
drive-thru, or even at a salad bar in a grocery store (not that
they would be anywhere *near* the salad bar LOL ). Can't buy
pre-prepared foods like rotisserie chicken or other pre-prepared
items from the deli counter, either. I can understand the
restaurant/drive-thru rule, but what the heck is wrong with fresh
food someone else put together at the grocery store? Gotta be
better than boxes of brownie mix and Kraft mac & cheese.

Jill

I've wondered that a thousand times, Jill. Why can't a person get
deli food
on food stamps? It makes NO sense to me. Wouldn't a fresh sandwich
from the deli be better than spaghettios?

kili
Why can't they get off their dead butt and make their own food? Why
should the taxpayer support them on deli food? They have a stove and
cookpot I assume. If they need help I can see buying them the basics,
but deli food. damn!

The point is the mother refuses to cook so if not deli-food then it's pure
crap. She and her daughters are grossly overweight.

kilikini wrote:


I've wondered that a thousand times, Jill. Why can't a person get deli food
on food stamps? It makes NO sense to me. Wouldn't a fresh sandwich from
the deli be better than spaghettios?

kili

That's probably considered restaurant food.

Anyway, it seems that you are uniquely in place to bring the kids in and
have them help prepare something delicious from the tomatoes that they
can unquestionably make themselves. Ligurian tomato salad? Cut into
big cubes, add minced garlic, salt, oil, some chiffonade of basil, cover
with a clean towel and leave on the counter for a few hours, then eat
with crusty bread. It's hard to believe that spaghettios could compete
with that. No one could be incapable of making it. The tomatoes are free.

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Giusi wrote:
kilikini wrote:


I've wondered that a thousand times, Jill. Why can't a person get
deli food on food stamps? It makes NO sense to me. Wouldn't a
fresh sandwich from the deli be better than spaghettios?

kili

That's probably considered restaurant food.

Anyway, it seems that you are uniquely in place to bring the kids in
and have them help prepare something delicious from the tomatoes that
they
can unquestionably make themselves. Ligurian tomato salad? Cut into
big cubes, add minced garlic, salt, oil, some chiffonade of basil,
cover with a clean towel and leave on the counter for a few hours,
then eat
with crusty bread. It's hard to believe that spaghettios could
compete with that. No one could be incapable of making it. The
tomatoes are free.

I intend to show them how to make their own marinara sauce. A nice
tomato/cucumber salad would be good, too. I keep trying to show them that
cooking is fun, but they still prefer to open a box up from their freezer.

kili

kilikini wrote:
Giusi wrote:
kilikini wrote:

Anyway, it seems that you are uniquely in place to bring the kids in
and have them help prepare something delicious from the tomatoes that
they
can unquestionably make themselves. Ligurian tomato salad? Cut into
big cubes, add minced garlic, salt, oil, some chiffonade of basil,
cover with a clean towel and leave on the counter for a few hours,
then eat
with crusty bread. It's hard to believe that spaghettios could
compete with that. No one could be incapable of making it. The
tomatoes are free.

I intend to show them how to make their own marinara sauce. A nice
tomato/cucumber salad would be good, too. I keep trying to show them that
cooking is fun, but they still prefer to open a box up from their freezer.

kili

If you are teaching a baby to walk, you don't take him on a country mile
long hike. Start even easier. Don't even turn on the stove. Just get
them to good food and stand back.

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