Sheldon wrote:
On Jun 6, 9:57?am, (Richard Tobin) wrote:
In article om,

Sheldon wrote:
I think Subway's Meatball Marinara (fully loaded) is the best sub on
their menu.
Um, now that's an oxymoroon... there is no such thing as meatball
marinara.
Evidently there is now.

Presumably it's meatballs in a marinara sauce - what's oxymoronic
about that?

Soon as meat is added to the dish it's no longer marinara... by your
logic (illogic) adding tube steak to vegetarian beans the dish is
still vegetarian.

Perhaps if Subway's meatballs are anything like their other so-called
meat products... they should call it Mystery Marinara.

Sheldon


Enter the new newsgroup moron

Welcome, Sheldon!

Soon as meat is added to the dish it's no longer marinara... by your
logic (illogic) adding tube steak to vegetarian beans the dish is
still vegetarian.

Perhaps if Subway's meatballs are anything like their other so-called
meat products... they should call it Mystery Marinara.

Subway is awful, even by fast food standards.


What's a better fast food place for freshness, taste, and price? If
you come up with a better one I'll go there.

OG

Richard Tobin wrote:
In article .com,
Sheldon wrote:

Soon as meat is added to the dish it's no longer marinara...

Others have explained your misapprehension here.

... tube steak ...

I've never heard this term. Is it American?

-- Richard

Only the large variety.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...erm=tube+steak

Owen Gilmore wrote:
Soon as meat is added to the dish it's no longer marinara... by your
logic (illogic) adding tube steak to vegetarian beans the dish is
still vegetarian.

Perhaps if Subway's meatballs are anything like their other
so-called meat products... they should call it Mystery Marinara.

Subway is awful, even by fast food standards.


What's a better fast food place for freshness, taste, and price? If
you come up with a better one I'll go there.

OG

The deli section at your local Publix. Vastly superior sandwich for the
same money. (feh, if it costs a buck more, it's worth it)

Bluto©

Mike Petronis wrote:
I think Subway's Meatball Marinara (fully loaded) is the best sub on
their menu.

You just *couldn't* make a sub that nice at home.

A foot long gets too messy to eat though.

Anyone agree?

*Cross-posting snipped*

On the rare days when I eat something for lunch that somebody else has
prepared, I usually go for a local Subway's six-inch "Cold cut combo" on
"Italian herb and cheese" bread, with "The works". (By now, I'm sure
they're tired of hearing me ask if they have horseradish sauce, but I
keep hoping) It makes a decent lunch for less than $3, and I get a
little fresh air and exercise walking almost a mile and a half
round-trip to get it.

Bluto wrote:

Owen Gilmore wrote:

Soon as meat is added to the dish it's no longer marinara... by your
logic (illogic) adding tube steak to vegetarian beans the dish is
still vegetarian.

Perhaps if Subway's meatballs are anything like their other
so-called meat products... they should call it Mystery Marinara.

Subway is awful, even by fast food standards.


What's a better fast food place for freshness, taste, and price? If
you come up with a better one I'll go there.

OG


The deli section at your local Publix. Vastly superior sandwich for the
same money. (feh, if it costs a buck more, it's worth it)

Bluto©

Bluto, I agree with you about the sandwiches at Publix. Before I go to
the beach, I stop at Publix and order an Italian sandwich with the
dressing on the side. They are delish, but then anything you eat at the
beach tastes good. LOL

Kroger's also makes good sandwiches, but they are different than the
sandwiches at Publix.

Becca

The Reid wrote:
Following up to Giusi wrote:

Presumably it's meatballs in a marinara sauce - what's oxymoronic
about that?

is the marinara sauce a fish sauce?

No, tomato

right, a sauce *used* by fishermen, not made of fish.

Meatballs and sailor sauce. Topic closed.

--
Albert Worschey

On Jun 6, 6:18 pm, Owen Gilmore wrote:
Soon as meat is added to the dish it's no longer marinara... by your
logic (illogic) adding tube steak to vegetarian beans the dish is
still vegetarian.

Perhaps if Subway's meatballs are anything like their other so-called
meat products... they should call it Mystery Marinara.

Subway is awful, even by fast food standards.

What's a better fast food place for freshness, taste, and price? If
you come up with a better one I'll go there.

Pretty much all of them, with the exception of Checkers/Rally's,
Arby's and...and. Heck I can't even think of any others that are
worse. What city are you in?
If you have a Panera Bread, they are way better: http://www.panerabread.com
Steak'n Shake is also great, with a few caveats. Here in St. Louis,
we have a chain called Lion's Choice. They are excellent.
Every other sub place is better than Subway.


OG

--Bryan

Owen Gilmore wrote:
Soon as meat is added to the dish it's no longer marinara... by your
logic (illogic) adding tube steak to vegetarian beans the dish is
still vegetarian.
Perhaps if Subway's meatballs are anything like their other so-called
meat products... they should call it Mystery Marinara.
Subway is awful, even by fast food standards.


What's a better fast food place for freshness, taste, and price? If
you come up with a better one I'll go there.

OG



The best fast food places are typically the mom & pop places. You may
have to ask around. In my area there are a bunch that run rings around
the chain places. Like the one across the street from my office for
example. They use buns from a local Italian bakery that are delivered
each morning (in paper not plastic). They use quality cold cuts and
prepare items like their own porketta, they make real meatballs for
meatball subs and make real soup (not a block of frozen space soup they
they plop into a pot and warm up.

On Jun 6, 6:58 pm, "Bluto" wrote:
Owen Gilmore wrote:
Soon as meat is added to the dish it's no longer marinara... by your
logic (illogic) adding tube steak to vegetarian beans the dish is
still vegetarian.

Perhaps if Subway's meatballs are anything like their other
so-called meat products... they should call it Mystery Marinara.

Subway is awful, even by fast food standards.

What's a better fast food place for freshness, taste, and price? If
you come up with a better one I'll go there.

OG

The deli section at your local Publix. Vastly superior sandwich for the
same money. (feh, if it costs a buck more, it's worth it)

Bluto©

Publix isn't in CA, but Safeway's deli sandwiches are about $5. Not
bad, but they don't load them up with veggies like Subway does.

Besides, being in downtown SF during the day there aren't any grocery
stores within walking distance.
OG

On Jun 6, 8:00 pm, BOBOBOnoBO® fka Food Snob
wrote:
On Jun 6, 6:18 pm, Owen Gilmore wrote:

Soon as meat is added to the dish it's no longer marinara... by your
logic (illogic) adding tube steak to vegetarian beans the dish is
still vegetarian.

Perhaps if Subway's meatballs are anything like their other so-called
meat products... they should call it Mystery Marinara.

Subway is awful, even by fast food standards.

What's a better fast food place for freshness, taste, and price? If
you come up with a better one I'll go there.

Pretty much all of them, with the exception of Checkers/Rally's,
Arby's and...and. Heck I can't even think of any others that are
worse. What city are you in?
If you have a Panera Bread, they are way better:http://www.panerabread.com
Steak'n Shake is also great, with a few caveats. Here in St. Louis,
we have a chain called Lion's Choice. They are excellent.
Every other sub place is better than Subway.



OG

--Bryan

Panera bread is hellsa expensive for what you get, IMHO.
Agree about Arby's though -- total crap.
O

Tim May wrote:

Cf.

http://www.annamariavolpi.com/marinara.html

"Marinara sauce is a basic meatless tomato sauce, probably considered
the precursor of all ragu' and tomato sauces of Italy. In spite of the
name (the word "marinara" refers to seafood), the sauce has no fish in
it."

This is nonsense and I am surprised it is spouted by Anna Maria Volpi
who used to post perfectly sane, informative messages on rfc some years
ago. In Italy, there is no such thing as "salsa marinara", which is a
purely American phenomenon derived directly from the topping of pizza
marinara, namely tomatoes, oregano and garlic (needless to say, the
topping is not a sauce). In Italy, there are numerous unrelated "alla
marinara" preparations, not sauces, many of them involving some kind of
fish, seafood, or fish broth or stock, and often some tomato sauce and
herbs. You will have trouble finding any salsa marinara recipes in any
cookbooks written by Italians for Italians in Italian. If you do a Web
search for occurences of "salsa marinara" in Italian language on ".it"
or other Italian Web sites, you will find preciously few, like maybe a
dozen or so, and some will mention fish stock in the context.

The word "marinara" means "sailor style" in the context; it does not
refer to seafood in any direct way.

Victor

Following up to "pfoley" wrote:

so theres no oxymoron?

You sound disappointed.

a little.
--
Mike Reid
Cutty Sark appeal"http://www.cuttysark.org.uk"
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Following up to Owen Gilmore wrote:


I agree it is excellent, one of my favorites. Like you, I like my
subs fully loaded (minus mayo but with all the veggies)
I also like the italian coldcut, and the Turkey.
Usually they cut the footlongs in half.

are there obesity problems where you are?

I can't eat one alone unless
I'm really hungry but they have a 2 footlongs for $10 special so I
sometimes bring a couple home for dinner.

fast food for dinner, lovely.
--
Mike Reid
Cutty Sark appeal"http://www.cuttysark.org.uk"
to email remove clothing.

The Reid wrote:
Following up to Owen Gilmore wrote:


I agree it is excellent, one of my favorites. Like you, I like my
subs fully loaded (minus mayo but with all the veggies)
I also like the italian coldcut, and the Turkey.
Usually they cut the footlongs in half.

are there obesity problems where you are?

I can't eat one alone unless
I'm really hungry but they have a 2 footlongs for $10 special so I
sometimes bring a couple home for dinner.

fast food for dinner, lovely.

See Mike! We don't know what we are missing G