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Steve Wertz wrote:
It's converted rice. Think Uncle Bens. It's not real rice. What is it if it's not real rice? Converted rice is: "A white rice prepared from brown rice that has been soaked, steamed under pressure to force water-soluble nutrients into the starchy endosperm, and then dried and milled." Not everyone likes it, but I wouldn't go so far as to call it fake or unreal or not real rice. --Lia |
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On Mon, 14 May 2007 05:05:14 -0400, willille
wrote: theChas. wrote: http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/reci...ml?rsrc=search I use this recipe and do the long grain rice as I learned a few years back (after a ton of rice pudding). (snip) You have used this recipe with no changes? It seems like 2 C H20 to 2 C rice is not enough H20. Thanks. when i make rice for fried rice (just about the only time i make rice), i use a 1:1 ratio. one cup rice in small saucepan, one cup water. bring to a boil on high heat, covered (the top will clatter); reduce heat to low for 5 minutes; reduce heat to very low for ten more and remove from heat. (from jim lee's chinese cookbook.) i've never waited 'til the next day to make the fried rice, instead chopping up stuff while the rice cooks or shortly thereafter. (my fried rice is about half rice and half meat and vegetables.) maybe i'll try 'resting' it next time. your pal, blake |
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Omelet wrote: In article , Emma Thackery wrote: But with fried rice, you are usually doing a much larger amount--- and with eggs! You don't want the rice absorbing large amounts of oil either. Noooo!!! I cook the eggs separate, then add them to the finished fried rice! I think that allowing the egg to "coat" the rice and other items ruins it. But, YMMV... :-) I make a well and do my eggs right in the wok either before I add the rice or stirring them in as they cook. I don't particularly like it coating the rice either. Sometimes I do them in strips as for sushi or leave them out completely. More often, I just do other kinds of stir-frys. ![]() |
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Steve Wertz wrote:
On Mon, 14 May 2007 05:05:14 -0400, willille wrote: theChas. wrote: http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/reci...ml?rsrc=search I use this recipe and do the long grain rice as I learned a few years back (after a ton of rice pudding). (snip) You have used this recipe with no changes? It seems like 2 C H20 to 2 C rice is not enough H20. Thanks. It's converted rice. Think Uncle Bens. It's not real rice. -sw Odd. I surely consider it "real" enough. I like it for many things although I also keep other rices around for various uses too. |
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You have used this recipe with no changes? It seems like 2 C H20 to 2 C rice is not enough H20. Thanks. ************ I have seen some Oriental chefs on TV use the 'knuckle' method. If the depth of the wet (washed) rice in the pan is one knuckle, add enough water to cover the second knuckle. I haven't had any trouble using these methods. Before I ended up with alot of rice pudding. .. . .This has to be a good recipe if I can't mess it up. I tried almost everything before. Like add enough peanut oil so that every kernel of rice is coated with oil. Then add the beaten eggs so that every kernel of rice then gets a coating of egg...hence the big ball (glob) of rice hanging from my chopsticks and more pudding. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Omelet wrote:
In article , Peter A wrote: In article , says... We've not wasted our time with any kind of white rice in years... Why is white rice wasting your time? No nutritional value, or not as much as whole grain rice. Pure starch, not worth the calories. And not nearly as much flavor or texture. ;-) It isn't really accurate to say that white rice has no value. It does, just not as high as brown. This page shows some of the nutrients in rice comparing them by each element. http://www.rebeccablood.net/domestic/rice.html Brown has much more phosphorus and fiber but other than that they are pretty equal. As far as carbs white has 82, brown has 78, Jasmine has 81 and glutinous has 81 per 100 grams. That's not much difference either. There are many peoples around the world that have lived very well including white rice in their diets. But it's not the only thing they eat. As part of a good diet it is not a problem to eat whichever rice one likes best. Melondy |
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Melondy wrote: Omelet wrote: In article , Peter A wrote: In article , says... We've not wasted our time with any kind of white rice in years... Why is white rice wasting your time? No nutritional value, or not as much as whole grain rice. Pure starch, not worth the calories. And not nearly as much flavor or texture. ;-) It isn't really accurate to say that white rice has no value. It does, just not as high as brown. This page shows some of the nutrients in rice comparing them by each element. http://www.rebeccablood.net/domestic/rice.html Brown has much more phosphorus and fiber but other than that they are pretty equal. As far as carbs white has 82, brown has 78, Jasmine has 81 and glutinous has 81 per 100 grams. That's not much difference either. There are many peoples around the world that have lived very well including white rice in their diets. But it's not the only thing they eat. As part of a good diet it is not a problem to eat whichever rice one likes best. Melondy We like red rice best, followed by brown, then black. We also think that white rice is not nearly as flavorful. It's not bad, but it's just not the same... The increase in fiber content really lowers the GI value as well! I'm actually more interested in that than total net carbs. -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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Peter A wrote: In article , says... Subject: Best Rice for Fried Rice From: Melondy Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking Omelet wrote: In article , Peter A wrote: In article , says... We've not wasted our time with any kind of white rice in years... Why is white rice wasting your time? No nutritional value, or not as much as whole grain rice. Pure starch, not worth the calories. And not nearly as much flavor or texture. ;-) It isn't really accurate to say that white rice has no value. It does, just not as high as brown. This page shows some of the nutrients in rice comparing them by each element. http://www.rebeccablood.net/domestic/rice.html Quite true. In any case, the extra nutrients and fiber in brown rice aren't going to make the slightest different unless your diet is borderline deficient in some of these elements. Brown rice is great in some situations, but not, puhlease, in Chinese cooking. YMMV and all that. :-) I don't miss white rice, unless it's for making sushi. For obvious reasons, whole grain rices won't work for that. But it works fine for fried rice. I prefer sashimi to sushi! -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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Peter A wrote:
In article , says... It isn't really accurate to say that white rice has no value. It does, just not as high as brown. This page shows some of the nutrients in rice comparing them by each element. http://www.rebeccablood.net/domestic/rice.html Quite true. In any case, the extra nutrients and fiber in brown rice aren't going to make the slightest different unless your diet is borderline deficient in some of these elements. Brown rice is great in some situations, but not, puhlease, in Chinese cooking. The bottom line for me is that I really like white rice. Its use has grown in my diet over the years as I've moved to more stirfry-type dishes (and other similar things) as it makes a nice base for those dishes. I even eat my chili over rice a lot these days. Brian -- If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who won't shut up. -- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com) |
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Omelet wrote: In article , Melondy wrote: Brown has much more phosphorus and fiber but other than that they are pretty equal. As far as carbs white has 82, brown has 78, Jasmine has 81 and glutinous has 81 per 100 grams. That's not much difference either. There are many peoples around the world that have lived very well including white rice in their diets. But it's not the only thing they eat. As part of a good diet it is not a problem to eat whichever rice one likes best. We like red rice best, followed by brown, then black. We also think that white rice is not nearly as flavorful. It's not bad, but it's just not the same... The increase in fiber content really lowers the GI value as well! I'm actually more interested in that than total net carbs. A friend's husband is diabetic and he is allowed brown rice but not white because of the better GI (glycemic index). As you know, when looking at carb content, other factors need consideration including fiber which lowers the GI as well as "net carbs". And, of course, all whole grains contain more fiber in addition to having a significantly superior nutritional content. Except for sushi and risotto, we eat mainly whole grain rice. Rice was originally milled mostly for long-term storage reasons. I suspect that one reason some people may not like brown rice is that they've only had grocery store brands which are typically awful. Brown rice needs to be purchased from a source that has a high turnover because it has more oil in it which can cause it to go rancid, like other whole grains, if stored in warehouses or left on shelves for years. This can give it a somewhat bitter, off kind of a taste. The thing about good, wholesome foods is that they cannot usually be stored indefinitely. |
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Emma Thackery wrote: In article , Omelet wrote: In article , Melondy wrote: Brown has much more phosphorus and fiber but other than that they are pretty equal. As far as carbs white has 82, brown has 78, Jasmine has 81 and glutinous has 81 per 100 grams. That's not much difference either. There are many peoples around the world that have lived very well including white rice in their diets. But it's not the only thing they eat. As part of a good diet it is not a problem to eat whichever rice one likes best. We like red rice best, followed by brown, then black. We also think that white rice is not nearly as flavorful. It's not bad, but it's just not the same... The increase in fiber content really lowers the GI value as well! I'm actually more interested in that than total net carbs. A friend's husband is diabetic and he is allowed brown rice but not white because of the better GI (glycemic index). As you know, when looking at carb content, other factors need consideration including fiber which lowers the GI as well as "net carbs". And, of course, all whole grains contain more fiber in addition to having a significantly superior nutritional content. Except for sushi and risotto, we eat mainly whole grain rice. Rice was originally milled mostly for long-term storage reasons. I suspect that one reason some people may not like brown rice is that they've only had grocery store brands which are typically awful. Brown rice needs to be purchased from a source that has a high turnover because it has more oil in it which can cause it to go rancid, like other whole grains, if stored in warehouses or left on shelves for years. This can give it a somewhat bitter, off kind of a taste. The thing about good, wholesome foods is that they cannot usually be stored indefinitely. I am fortunate to have LOTS of space to store dry goods in glass jars in the bottom of the Hobart so it's under refrigeration. That helps. Freezing rice also works well. In general tho', I don't purchase more than 1 to 2 lbs. at a time as I can use that up rather quickly with the exeption of red and black rices as I have to go to Austin for those. The traffic to and from Austin is getting to be worse and worse, so I avoid driving there as much as possible. :-( -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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