Hello all,

Can I fry with Extra Virgin Olive Oil? Are Italian oils better than
those from elsewhere.

I found great info on Italian recipes and Extra Virgin Oils at great
prices at this site: http://www.bellaitaliaonline.com/

But still ne more info.

Thx

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Hello all,

Can I fry with Extra Virgin Olive Oil? Are Italian oils better than
those from elsewhere.

I found great info on Italian recipes and Extra Virgin Oils at great
prices at this site: http://www.bellaitaliaspam.com/

But still ne more info.

Do you think we are stoooopid???? You just "found" the site? Yet your
return address is the same as the site. You loved it so much that you
adopted the name for yourself. How cute.

Commercial advertising is forbidden in the charter for this group. You are
not wanted here.

On 8 Apr 2007 11:50:17 -0700, wrote:

Hello all,

Can I fry with Extra Virgin Olive Oil? Are Italian oils better than
those from elsewhere.

I found great info on Italian recipes and Extra Virgin Oils at great
prices at this site: snip spam site

But still ne more info.

Thx

LOL, could you **be** more obvious?? Please don't SPAM noncommercial
newsgroups, it ****es people off.

TammyM

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
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Hello all,

Can I fry with Extra Virgin Olive Oil? Are Italian oils better than
those from elsewhere.

I found great info on Italian recipes and Extra Virgin Oils at great
prices at this site: http://www.bellaitaliaspam.com/

But still ne more info.

Do you think we are stoooopid???? You just "found" the site? Yet
your return address is the same as the site. You loved it so much
that you adopted the name for yourself. How cute.

Commercial advertising is forbidden in the charter for this group.
You are not wanted here.

Absolutely correct, Ed. Is spring break still going on? Dang, get these
people away from Daddy's computer! G

And just as a side note, deep frying in olive oil is definitely not
recommended. It's too fragrant and imparts too much flavour to the food.
You want a very neutral oil for deep frying.

Jill

On Apr 8, 1:31 pm, "jmcquown" wrote:
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
wrote in message
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Hello all,

Can I fry with Extra Virgin Olive Oil? Are Italian oils better than
those from elsewhere.

I found great info on Italian recipes and Extra Virgin Oils at great
prices at this site: http://www.bellaitaliaspam.com/

But still ne more info.

Do you think we are stoooopid???? You just "found" the site? Yet
your return address is the same as the site. You loved it so much
that you adopted the name for yourself. How cute.

Commercial advertising is forbidden in the charter for this group.
You are not wanted here.

Absolutely correct, Ed. Is spring break still going on? Dang, get these
people away from Daddy's computer! G

And just as a side note, deep frying in olive oil is definitely not
recommended. It's too fragrant and imparts too much flavour to the food.
You want a very neutral oil for deep frying.

Also, extra virgin olive oil had lower boiling point meaning it burns
quickly. That guy sells oil and doesn't even know about his own
product. Sheesh..



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On Apr 8, 12:42 pm, "Randy Johnson" wrote:
On 8-Apr-2007, wrote:

Hello all,

Can I fry with Extra Virgin Olive Oil? Are Italian oils better than
those from elsewhere.

I found great info on Italian recipes and Extra Virgin Oils at great
prices at this site: http://www.bellaitaliaonline.com/

But still ne more info.

Most Italian Olive Oil sold in the US is, indeed imported from Italy;
Nope. Most olive oils are from other countries but labelled "product
of Italy".

however, because there's so much demand for "Italian olive oil" the Italians
buy much of the oil from Spain and blend it. To me, Spanish olive oil is
much better tasting and is bargain priced compared to so-called Italian
olive oil.

Most sites like the one you referenced are simply scams or for the
desperate. Because of the hype and mystique, many such outlets sell pure
crap at premium prices to the uninformed. Any city with an ethnic grocer
will have equal or better product, at much better prices.

So, quit shilling or spamming for rip-off artists and look for a real job.

mm wrote:

On Apr 8, 12:42 pm, "Randy Johnson" wrote:

Most Italian Olive Oil sold in the US is, indeed imported from Italy;

Nope. Most olive oils are from other countries but labelled "product
of Italy".

I don't know if that's true very often. If the address of the
producer is in Italy, but it doesn't say "Product of Italy", it
might come from elsewhere in the E.U.

I'm finding it more difficult to find a good Italian olive oil
for the past five or so years (by "difficult", I mean by buying a
bottle that by price and reputation ought to be really good,
and finding that it is only so-so). Recently, the "good" olive oil
around the house is from Spain.

Steve

mm wrote:

Also, extra virgin olive oil had lower boiling point meaning it burns
quickly. That guy sells oil and doesn't even know about his own
product. Sheesh..

I'm sure he knows more than he appeared. He was just using the faux
question to spam the group. Stupid stunts like that backfire and cause
ill will to anything he hoped to gain.

I saute in olive oil, and it adds a wonderful flavor to thin chicken
scallopini and such, but I am not using extra virgin for that.

"mm" wrote in message
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On Apr 8, 12:42 pm, "Randy Johnson" wrote:
On 8-Apr-2007, wrote:

Hello all,

Can I fry with Extra Virgin Olive Oil? Are Italian oils better than
those from elsewhere.

I found great info on Italian recipes and Extra Virgin Oils at great
prices at this site: http://www.bellaitaliaonline.com/

But still ne more info.

Most Italian Olive Oil sold in the US is, indeed imported from Italy;
Nope. Most olive oils are from other countries but labelled "product
of Italy".

Really? Whatcha got to back that up?

"cybercat" scripsit in
:

Most Italian Olive Oil sold in the US is, indeed imported from
Italy;

Nope. Most olive oils are from other countries but labelled
"product of Italy".

Really? Whatcha got to back that up?

Well, it depends where you are. In the US, the law obliges the
importer to indicate the origin, but in Canada and Europe, this is not
the case yet. Viz the following, specifically item number 7:

http://www.radio-canada.ca/actualite...ves/2003/09/18
/enquete.shtml

It states that large importers such as Unilever or Nestlé make labels
for the US market indicating provenance from Greece, Morocco etc., but
make some for Canada and Europe which says Product of Italy.

With the current useless-as-tits-on-a-bull gummint in Canada, we're not
likely to get that settled any time soon.

--

"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's
oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the
search for a superior moral justification for
selfishness." -- John Kenneth Galbraith

wrote in message
ups.com...
Hello all,

Can I fry with Extra Virgin Olive Oil? Are Italian oils better than
those from elsewhere.

I found great info on Italian recipes and Extra Virgin Oils at great
prices at this site: http://www.bellaitaliaonline.com/

But still ne more info.

Thx

NO, you can't.

"mm" wrote:
Nope. Most olive oils are from other countries but labelled "product
of Italy".

Incorrect. There are two general phrases in the USA used for the origins of
olive oil. One phrase is "Imported from Italy". This just means the olive
oil was shipped from Italy, but the olives could have come from anywhere.
The other phrase is "Product of Italy", which means the olives themselves
were grown in Italy. There are a couple of variants of these two phrases.

I've got two bottles of Safeway Select olive oil in front of me. The first
bottle is "extra virgin olive oil". It is labeled "Produced and Packed in
Italy". It further says "extracted from ripe Italian olives". The second
bottle is "olive oil". By contrast, it is labeled "Imported from Italy" and
has no further indication of origins. There are numerous explanations of the
two phrases on the net if you do a google search.

One interesting thing about Safeway olive oil is when sold at the regular
price, the extra virgin costs more than the plain. But when they put it on
sale, both go for the same price.

--
wff_ng_7 (at) verizon (dot) net

Randy Johnson wrote:

Most Italian Olive Oil sold in the US is, indeed imported from Italy;
however, because there's so much demand for "Italian olive oil" the
Italians buy much of the oil from Spain and blend it.

Buy only DOP or IGT italian EVO oils and you'll get oil made with
all-italian olives.
A good one with a good quality/price ratio is from Farchioni, it's theyr
"Umbria DOP".

BTW - actually there's only one IGP EVO oil and it is Toscana IGP, the
others are either DOP or nothing, where nothing means oil made from turkish
or greek or whoknowswherefrom olives.
--
Vilco
Think pink, drink rose'

wff_ng_7 wrote:

Incorrect. There are two general phrases in the USA used for the
origins of olive oil. One phrase is "Imported from Italy". This just
means the olive oil was shipped from Italy, but the olives could have
come from anywhere. The other phrase is "Product of Italy", which
means the olives themselves were grown in Italy. There are a couple
of variants of these two phrases.

Nope: the only thing which can assure you of the origin of the olives are
the DOP and IGT labelings (EU rules). All the rest is BS. Let's see it in
detail.

I've got two bottles of Safeway Select olive oil in front of me. The
first bottle is "extra virgin olive oil". It is labeled "Produced and
Packed in Italy".

So olives can still come from anywhere.

It further says "extracted from ripe Italian olives".

Another phrase which has no legal definition nor a set of rules regarding
the requirements to use it. So now *some* of the olives (even 0.0001% if
they like so) must be from Italy, while the rest remains mistery olives.

Get IGP or DOP and you'll be sure of what's in that oil. Note that DOP and
IGP labels are ruled by European Union, so there must be the same labeling
also in Spain and probably in Greece, too. BTW, spanish oil is a very good
one and it's prices are rising, so if you buy italian oil without DOP or IGP
labels, you'll be probably getting something inferior in quality and (most
of all) in price than oil made with spanish olives: probably it will be from
turkish or lybian olives.
--
Vilco
Think pink, drink rose'

"Vilco" wrote:
Nope: the only thing which can assure you of the origin of the olives are
the DOP and IGT labelings (EU rules). All the rest is BS. Let's see it in
detail.

It's hardly all BS. The rules are different in the USA vs. EU regarding
olive oil and certainly the USA rules are far less exhaustive than those in
the EU. One of the primary omissions in USA rules is in grading. But country
of origin is enforced.

Following are some excerpts from USA government agencies regarding olive oil
and country of origin in general. CBP is Customs and Border Patrol and FDA
is Food and Drug Administration.

The result of these rules are the "imported from" vs. "product of" phrases
in order to prevent misleading labeling, not that many consumers understand
the difference, or even read the labels.

One of the cases of misleading labeling that is perfectly legal that I ran
across years ago was the labeling on Kirin beer sold in the USA. The label
proudly declared "IMPORTED", leaving the distinct impression that it came
from Japan. But read the fine print, and it said "brewed in Canada". Though
it's technically correct, I don't think most people in the USA consider
Canadian products to be imported in the same sense as from other parts of
the world. I'm sure the intent of the label was to mislead, and I'm sure
they chose a Canadian location rather than a USA location for this reason.

----
Extract from:
http://www.cbp.gov/xp/CustomsToday/2...oditytrail.xml

Olive oil is a case in point where CBP's enforcement efforts work. About
eight to ten years ago country of origin was a concern. Olive oil was being
shipped to Italy from Greece or Turkey and labeled "Imported from Italy."
Stringent enforcement efforts served as a deterrent with the result that
today there are few problems with marking and country of origin.
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Extract from:
http://www.fda.gov/ora/compliance_re...pg560-200.html

Food labeling statements regarding geographical origin must not be false or
misleading in any particular. FDA's policy prohibiting false or misleading
labeling of food applies equally to imported and domestic products (*section
403(a)(1)* and 21 CFR 101.18).
....
FDA's policy regarding false or misleading country of origin labeling is to
defer to *CBP*. Such labeling is also a violation of the Tariff Act of 1930,
which is enforced by *CBP*, and *CBP* can generally deal with this problem
more efficiently than FDA.
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