James Silverton wrote:
limey wrote on Fri, 06 Apr 2007 15:19:11 GMT:


l Strange happening, when you mention a fox. A couple of days
l ago I was travelling home and pulled over to avoid what I
l thought first was a dog, then changed my mind to a fox, then
l the thing didn't look like a fox, either (wrong tail) or a
l raccoon (wrong color). DH feels it was a coyote, since it
l was carrying its tail low and they've been seen in this
l county Unbelievable.

I have heard coyotes singing in the West and, believe me, they
were much more harmonious than my fox! It is smaller than
coyotes I have seen and has a somewhat bushy tail that it
carries sort of straight out and is gray with reddish tints.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Oh, yes indeed - I know how they look and sound. At our former house
(also in the country) we had a fox den in the woods directly across the
road. Rabbit feet all around.
We used to hear all the harmony at night. Now we're on Maryland's
eastern shore in Queen Anne's County, so the thought of a coyote was a
surprise. DH tells me they've been seen in this county, though.

Dora

Omelet wrote:

Rimfire?

My neighbors would report me in an instant.

BB rifles do work tho' and are not classified as a "firearm" in our
city, so are ok to use. They make some pretty powerful ones now.

I can shot a shotgun here, but not a rifle. A pellet gun is a lot more
powerful than a BB gun, but i didn't have much luck with it last fall. I
know I hit the little buggers, but it it didn't seem to do much to them.

limey wrote:

Oh, yes indeed - I know how they look and sound. At our former house
(also in the country) we had a fox den in the woods directly across the
road. Rabbit feet all around.
We used to hear all the harmony at night. Now we're on Maryland's
eastern shore in Queen Anne's County, so the thought of a coyote was a
surprise. DH tells me they've been seen in this county, though.

I have seen only a have dozen foxes around here in the 30 years I have
lived here, only two during the day, and neither of those two looked very
healthy. They are a lot smaller than most people seem to expect. I have
seen more dead coyotes than live ones, but hear them almost every night. In
fact, we have to go out ahead of the dogs and listen for coyotes before we
led their dogs out to do their bedtime business. I see the coyote tracks
and their scat when we walk the dogs in the fields behind us. The 30 acres
directly behind us is now a nursery and the frequently worked sandy loam is
a great place for seeing nice clear tracks.

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Omelet wrote:

In article ,
Emma Thackery wrote:

In article ,
Dave Smith wrote:

The squirrel population has increased drastically. They have been digging
up my spring bulbs, and they run across the road,tempting my dogs to chase
them....

CB longs are reasonably quiet. That's what we use when they get out of
hand here and start doing damage (which is quite often actually).
Squirrels travel amazingly long distances so Havaharts don't work very
well with them--- not to speak of the fuel expense. Or were you
planning on biking them?

Rimfire?

Yep, a little Marlin Golden 39A lever action, far quieter than a pellet
rifle as long as you use CB longs (shorts are much louder). It holds 10
to 15 rounds and that is darn convenient. Accurate as hell but I still
only do ground-shots for safety reasons. And I only shoot them when
they start causing problems. The resident foxes, red beauties, and a
nice pair of turkey vultures appreciate the freebies and come by here
regularly (I never eat the squirrels though I do like some game). There
is also a hawk that gets one (on the run) occasionally but he always
leaves the bloody tail on our front yard. I think it's a smart-ass
Sharp Shin. We're rural with a lot of forest.

My neighbors would report me in an instant.

With few predators, they are a terrible pest.

BB rifles do work tho' and are not classified as a "firearm" in our
city, so are ok to use. They make some pretty powerful ones now.

In article ,
Dave Smith wrote:

Omelet wrote:

Rimfire?

My neighbors would report me in an instant.

BB rifles do work tho' and are not classified as a "firearm" in our
city, so are ok to use. They make some pretty powerful ones now.

I can shot a shotgun here, but not a rifle. A pellet gun is a lot more
powerful than a BB gun, but i didn't have much luck with it last fall. I
know I hit the little buggers, but it it didn't seem to do much to them.

The revolver type pellet guns I've seen were all worthless compared to a
rifle. A pellet rifle must be properly sighted and checked frequently.
Ours is a pump type and, though effective, I rarely use it because if I
don't get the squirrel exactly in the head and have to shoot again, the
creature has to suffer while I pump the damn thing up and reload it.

Emma Thackery wrote:
In article ,
Dave Smith wrote:

Omelet wrote:

Rimfire?

My neighbors would report me in an instant.

BB rifles do work tho' and are not classified as a "firearm" in our
city, so are ok to use. They make some pretty powerful ones now.

I can shot a shotgun here, but not a rifle. A pellet gun is a lot
more powerful than a BB gun, but i didn't have much luck with it
last fall. I know I hit the little buggers, but it it didn't seem to
do much to them.

The revolver type pellet guns I've seen were all worthless compared
to a rifle. A pellet rifle must be properly sighted and checked
frequently. Ours is a pump type and, though effective, I rarely use
it because if I don't get the squirrel exactly in the head and have
to shoot again, the creature has to suffer while I pump the damn
thing up and reload it.

Do you have a scope on that gun, Emma, or just iron sights? A scope on a
good pellet rifle turns it into a wondrous instrument of painless attrition.

--
"So long, so long, and thanks for all the fish!"
Dave
www.davebbq.com

On Apr 6, 1:12�pm, "James Silverton"
not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not wrote:
*limey *wrote *on Fri, 06 Apr 2007 15:19:11 GMT:

*?? Omelet *wrote *
*?? Best and easy squirrel bait:
*??
*?? Mix up some peanut butter with oatmeal to solidify it.
*??
*?? Good luck!
*??
*?? That should work but even some roasted peanuts should

*l A few years ago, I checked with the County about shooting
*l the darned things. * I was told we could shoot them but only
*l during January. *When do you ever see a squirrel in January?

*l Strange happening, when you mention a fox. *A couple of days
*l ago I was travelling home and pulled over to avoid what I
*l thought first was a dog, then changed my mind to a fox, then
*l the thing didn't look like a fox, either (wrong tail) or a
*l raccoon (wrong color). *DH feels it was a coyote, since it
*l was carrying its tail low and they've been seen in this
*l county * Unbelievable.

I have heard coyotes singing in the West and, believe me, they
were much more harmonious than my fox! It is smaller than
coyotes I have seen and has a somewhat bushy tail that it
carries sort of straight out and is gray with reddish tints.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not

My fox, is a gray fox, small and bushy tail, some reddish spot, but
definitely a fox.

We also have coyotes, when I lived in NM they were everywhere, and the
biggest I have ever seen, their singing was wonderful, I enjoyed it as
well as watching them, most of the time. They had a den at the back of
my property and pups, the parents are good parents and they hunt
together as a group. Extremely bright

The fox in my yard now, I do not know a lot about yet. Am thinking it
maybe a female and soon there may be kits.

Rosie

Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:


Chubbs is totally glutinous.

Eewww.



Brian

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won't shut up.
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Emma Thackery wrote:



The revolver type pellet guns I've seen were all worthless compared to a
rifle. A pellet rifle must be properly sighted and checked frequently.
Ours is a pump type and, though effective, I rarely use it because if I
don't get the squirrel exactly in the head and have to shoot again, the
creature has to suffer while I pump the damn thing up and reload it.

Pellet pistols are useless. My son's pellet rifle is much more powerful and
surprisingly accurate, but a .177 just isn't up the the challenge of a big
squirrel. While I have no problem exterminating pests I am not going to
include pain on them in vain.

Michael \"Dog3\" Lonergan wrote:


Chubbs and Slick are hilarious. Chubbs is totally glutinous.


Full of starch? :-)

rosie wrote:


My fox, is a gray fox, small and bushy tail, some reddish spot, but
definitely a fox.

We are still talking about squirrels, aren't we?





Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

Default wrote on 6 Apr 2007 22:29:50 GMT:

?? My fox, is a gray fox, small and bushy tail, some reddish
?? spot, but definitely a fox.

DU We are still talking about squirrels, aren't we?

DU Brian

Missed the fact that foxes eat squirrels, did you? :-)

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not

In article ,
Dave Smith wrote:

Omelet wrote:

Rimfire?

My neighbors would report me in an instant.

BB rifles do work tho' and are not classified as a "firearm" in our
city, so are ok to use. They make some pretty powerful ones now.

I can shot a shotgun here, but not a rifle. A pellet gun is a lot more
powerful than a BB gun, but i didn't have much luck with it last fall. I
know I hit the little buggers, but it it didn't seem to do much to them.

They probably went off and died somewhere. Not good.
I generally sneak up on them and aim for the head.

I've not actually shot a squirrel now for a couple of years. There are
three big fat ones that drive my border collie nuts. They've not been a
bother lately so I'm leaving them alone.

If there gets to be too many of them, or they start causing damage
again, all bets are off.

Squirrel for lunch!
--
Peace, Om

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In article ,
Emma Thackery wrote:

In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article ,
Emma Thackery wrote:

In article ,
Dave Smith wrote:

The squirrel population has increased drastically. They have been
digging
up my spring bulbs, and they run across the road,tempting my dogs to
chase
them....

CB longs are reasonably quiet. That's what we use when they get out of
hand here and start doing damage (which is quite often actually).
Squirrels travel amazingly long distances so Havaharts don't work very
well with them--- not to speak of the fuel expense. Or were you
planning on biking them?

Rimfire?

Yep, a little Marlin Golden 39A lever action, far quieter than a pellet
rifle as long as you use CB longs (shorts are much louder).

I'll have to check into that. I have a Remington Nylon 66 that holds 13
rounds. It needs to be re-sighted tho'. I'd not fired for a few years
and took it to the range last week and did some sandbag shooting. Shot
2" groups at 25 yards, but it's shooting about 6" high and to the right.

I'll take it to the range again tomorrow and make the adjustments to
zero it properly. The rear sites are adjustable.

It's a fun plinker. :-) .22 ammo is cheap and this rifle will eat just
about anything, including the really cheap stuff. I've only ever loaded
it with LR. I don't think it'd fire shorts.


It holds 10
to 15 rounds and that is darn convenient. Accurate as hell but I still
only do ground-shots for safety reasons.

Never underestimate a .22. They are not toys so I know what you mean!
We used to use a .22 for shooting emu in the head when we processed some
for meat out at a friends ranch.

And I only shoot them when
they start causing problems. The resident foxes, red beauties, and a
nice pair of turkey vultures appreciate the freebies and come by here
regularly (I never eat the squirrels though I do like some game).

You are missing out! I was surprised at how tender and delicious
squirrel is. Of course, the ones in my yard are grain fed. ;-) I have
pigeons that I put out scratch grains for (corn, wheat and millet
mostly) and they squirrels are quite fat. Like I said tho', I'm leaving
the current trio alone. Squirrels are territorial and these are behaving
themselves. I had one pair a couple of years ago that were chewing on
the house. I ended up poisoning those out of desperation as I could
never get near enough to them for a good shot.

There
is also a hawk that gets one (on the run) occasionally but he always
leaves the bloody tail on our front yard. I think it's a smart-ass
Sharp Shin. We're rural with a lot of forest.

lol! My yard is too well treed over for any hawks to get anything...


My neighbors would report me in an instant.

With few predators, they are a terrible pest.

They can be. The neighborhood cats appear to be keeping their numbers
around here down, at least for now.
--
Peace, Om

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In article ,
Emma Thackery wrote:

In article ,
Dave Smith wrote:

Omelet wrote:

Rimfire?

My neighbors would report me in an instant.

BB rifles do work tho' and are not classified as a "firearm" in our
city, so are ok to use. They make some pretty powerful ones now.

I can shot a shotgun here, but not a rifle. A pellet gun is a lot more
powerful than a BB gun, but i didn't have much luck with it last fall. I
know I hit the little buggers, but it it didn't seem to do much to them.

The revolver type pellet guns I've seen were all worthless compared to a
rifle. A pellet rifle must be properly sighted and checked frequently.
Ours is a pump type and, though effective, I rarely use it because if I
don't get the squirrel exactly in the head and have to shoot again, the
creature has to suffer while I pump the damn thing up and reload it.

I agree.
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Peace, Om

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